₦airaland Forum

JaceBlaze:
I counted minutes before you pulled this one out of your jolof ass.That Mossel Bay incident got absolutely nothing to do with these peaceful marches.Of course the so called pan Africans can't wait to discredit the march even if it means using someone's death for cheap political points.

It's either you guys believe people are that st.upi.d. or you are living in your own preconceived nonse.ns.ical world.

Prior to your March and March's "peaceful" events why did we not see spats of looting, harassment, vandalism and now killings aimed at foreign nationals. .

Of course your March and March will deny any link but deep down this is the outcome they were banking on.The strategy of your "peaceful" marches is akin to my running into the middle of a starving mob and screaming "look it's those people over there who stole the food, but please don't do anything bad to them, then I leave to go fetch the police"

Like I said, South African exceptionalism on full display. Keep deceiving yourself.

andrewza:
But if our economy is stagnant, don't you think it best all African economic migrants leave then

Uganda's economy is not doing as well. Why aren't they calling for the refugees there to leave?

Kobojunkie:
I disagree! Cambodia recently decided it no longer wanted foreigners from African nations coming in, a decision it likely made with its people in mind. We heard nothing of xenophobia from the mouths of Africans. So, tell me why South Africans are not allowed to no longer want foreigners from other African nations coming in?

Migration has always been a privilege, not a right.

The cambodian government has denied that.

https://www.diplomatictimesonline.com/interior-ministry-of-cambodia-dismisses-ultimatum-for-africans-to-leave-as-false/

femi4:
This is beyond illegal migration

far beyond.

RandDigital:
Didn't know you can be level-headed when talking with your countrymen 🙄

What is levelheaded about stating facts.

JaceBlaze:
Both and also the fact that the two situations are not even the same in any shape or form.You got terrorists in your country piling up lifeless bodies of innocent people over absolutely nothing. What's happening in South Africa is a peaceful protest march about illegal immigration in South Africa,so yes - the silence of your president is disturbing.

So I say it again - you are not smart at all.

Yes very "peaceful". The deaths in Mossel bay and the lootings pale in comparison. No level/degree of response required. South African exceptionalism on full display.



https://briefly.co.za/people/243225-sa-mom-pleads-son-killed-allegedly-mistaken-a-foreigner-mossel-bay/

https://www.msn.com/en-za/news/other/kraaifontein-looting-aftermath-video-leaves-south-africans-divided-online/ar-AA24gxdr


https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=yJsasVTf-2A


https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=0QLipT2Kna4


https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=_n-HOPvy4Bo

andrewza:
That's the aim. Deport all illegal foreigners.

Which illegals?

Can you point to where they are?

adicius:
They should sue that Jacinta girl, the organiser of March and loot. She is primarily responsible for all this going on in the republic of Xenophobia after issuing threats on 30th May deadline.




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Its what she wants deep inside. Can't you see it written on her face.

andrewza:
Around 0.5 and 1.1 nigerias was 3.4 and 3.9. i all ready knew this. But GDP per capita was the facter i was looking at. It matters since a growth there means people gernarly have money where in Nigeria you have money but no one can actually touch it since only a few suer rich have it.

It's why South Africa has high education budget than Nigeria and why Nigeria has had to borrow money from foreign lenders to pay the bills. Those lenders then force Nigeria to scrap the fuel Subsidy and devalue the currency.

One country is far healthier than the other Dangote is not all of Nigeria.

Please compare that GDP growth across economies that are similar to yours and then you will see what stagnation means.

andrewza:
You know, there is this middle ground in bewteen Isolastion and open borders, right?

No please. Close all your borders and remove all African embassies.

Tomorrow the usual suspects will come out here and say we are crazy for calling them xenophobic.

andrewza:
There all ready is inter african trade. Issue is most african countries only seel raw matrials and buy finshed goods.

26% of South African exports go to African countries already. No need for some pan african ideal for trade.

South Africa has a need for skilled labour and the means to train skilled labour. We don't need African countries to send their skilled workers.

South Africa has both the need for unskilled labour and the supply of unskilled labour. We don't need other people's poor.


There is no real benfit to Pan-Africanism for South Africa. There are only downsides

Okay you guys can walk on your own. Please close all diplomatic and economic channels with the rest of Africa as it was during Apartheid.

andrewza:
How stagnant economy produces more cars in one month than Nigeria does in a year,

Produces enough power for all the people in the country.

I am sorry, compared to South Africa Ghana and Nigeria are poor. Sure, parts of major cities in Ghana and Nigeria are nice but i can go to a random city in South Africa and be better off than some random City in Nigeria or Ghana.

What was GDP growth in South Africa the last 2 years?

andrewza:
Ok so you admit this is because people are poor in the home countries and now what, South Africa, to give them a free handout?

No free hand for immigrants. Deport those that are illegal and those that are not doing anything meaningful but even if you do they will jump the fence next week and you will spend money again to deport them again and again.

lightwind:
[b]You are taking their jobs marrying their women.

Can you list the jobs?

The women are marrying the foreigners. Its their country.

lightwind:
Using money to spoil their women, making their women love money more than anything else, now if you are a South African man and you are poor or broke you can't get an SA woman to love you anymore because of what the foreigners in their country have turned their women into lover's of money. That's not how it was before!

If it is only money their women are after then I fee sorry for those Nigerians cause they will be broke and divorced in 7 years.

lightwind:
You are taking their local businesses, making house rent expensive for them the locals!

That's western cape

lightwind:
Making their women turn to olosho for money.

Money is doing that not migrants.

lightwind:
Drugs
Rapes
Scamming
Cultism
Creating bad gangs in their communities.
Making life difficult for them.

Remove rape from that list.

lightwind:
Leave South Africans alone!! Let them breath!!
You are messing up their cultures with your wayward lifes.[/b]

I agree. breathing is a very difficult thing to do.

motymop:
funny enough, this is how fulanis are treated in Nigeria

Most nigerians want all fulanis out of their land because they kidnap and kill people

South africans want nigerians out because they sell drugs

Nigerians want Fulani bandits out of the country. Qualify your statement.

lightwind:
Leave their country, you are causing troubles in their country. Illegal aliens in SA communities should leave now! You are not welcomed! Go to other African countries and hustle.

You should go help them check who is illegal and legal first before you come here shouting?

Yampotatocarrot:
That's the point, they're harassing everyone, ejeyjer documented or undocumented

Yep.

andrewza:
Why else you all come to south africa?

South africa is an economic hub in Southern Africa, people have been going there for over 100 years.

andrewza:
What do you think one African nation will lead to. people moving from the poor areas to the wealthy areas

Inter african trade will create opportunities across the continent and open up all economies to transfer skilled and underskilled labor to their most efficient destinations.

wallrichy:
God bless you. We should call a spade a spade.....these criminals shuttle between Nigeria and SA.....they come to Nigeria to scam you, rob and even carry out kidnapping and cultism and after the operation, they run back to SA to do cultism and drug selling......we sabi our people very wella....make we talk true always....

My issue is that if these criminal syndicates were the direct targets, I would have no issues at all but they are not because the very same government is corrupt and turning a blind eye.

Kingson28:
Except for their big companies, black South Africans don't migrate that much to other African countries. So reprisals by other African countries won't affect them much

There are many ways to retaliate my friend. Many ways.

helinues:
That's not getting used but weakling government. If things continue in this direction, don't be surprised if you read about massacres on some foreign nationalities.

if they let it get out of hand its on them. There are an element of hateful South Africans itching to shed the blood of innocent people this is without a doubt and they will if given the opportunity take advantage and do as they please.

That shame will be on South Africa and its people and will reverberate across the continent.

helinues:
Ordinary this behavior alone, it will take decades before the stigmatization about SA can fade away globally

That's on them to deal with. Their anger will cause their own down fall.

helinues:
Okay. What have you South Africans done about the itas and Inkabis who have been a menace fir decades in SA

Those are two different issues. You cannot justify the existence of international drug syndicates by pointing to local drug gangs.

helinues:
How many foreign cultists are in South Africa compared to criminal gangs who always show off on social media?

They are a lot my friend. I am speaking from experience and I am a Nigerian.

helinues:
If people can be looting consistently without any resistance from the government, then things are not just falling apart but collapsing

The looting are hungry people taking advantage of the unrest as they will. Their government is also used to that one as well.

Kingson28:
If immigrants from other countries have any self-respect left in them they should be leaving South Africa in droves by now. Your host country citizens say they don't want you staying in their country anymore. If you have sense of shame and self dignity you should leave and return to your home country.

I believe the same but I also believe there should be reprisals by many African nations as well. The South Africans will tell you they don't care because they believe they are superior to other AFricans but when it starts to reveal itself then we will see.

Jorussia:
Migration generally has nothing to do with home is good or not.Countries with far better economies than Nigeria,have their citizens in other countries as migrants.Many Nigerians in south Africa are not broke,they are persons who went there to invest years ago.

Let us tell the full story. There is a criminal element of Nigerians in South AFrica made up of gangs, cultists and yahoo boyz operating in their country in addition to those seeking greener pastures.

helinues:
My own curiosity with the event in SA lately is ,where are the parents of those who have been denting the image of the country internationally , or the behaviour is generational

Btw, if the citizens can be making order while the government is helpless, that's the beginning of a collapsed nation

The ANC government is afraid to react too harshly. Election season is round the corner and mischief makers are aware of this plus when the government was heavy handed on them during the Marikana killings, there was serious backlash.

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Jace,

Dem don ban you again.

Did you use the "M" word again.

Shame!

orisa37:
As a member of BRICS, THE RUSSIANS ARE TEACHING SOUTH AFRICANS HOW TO BE REALLY WICKED TO OTHERS AND PRETEND NOTHING HAPPENS..
I HOPE RAMANPHOSA'S WIFE IS NOT A RUSSIAN?

Wetin that one come mean?

Emeskhalifa:
Kuku tell us you don't want Africans in your country anymore

HAHAHAHA!

They can't say it out right because they want us to believe they are upholding their laws but if you know you know.

merits:
Nothing they will do me I will never leave SA let them do their worst useless people

HAHAHAHAHA!.

Stay safe and make sure you stay away from townships and locations.