₦airaland Forum

JaceBlaze:
That's cute,because I thought the reason they kicked white people out of their countries was because they wanted to run shít and not have to depend on the white man,

If they really wanted this, we would not have multinational corporations like Chevron, BP and the likes all across the continent nor would we have Hedge funds and venture capital buying up startups across the continent or millions of European tourists spending money on the continent.

JaceBlaze:
but now they don't mind going through "xenophobia" just to get white man's money? Do you mind explaining to me the sense in that?

The economy of South Africa is run and controlled by White monopoly capital therefore where-ever it resides and is distributed the most efficiently, it will attract and exploit labor to maximize its return.

Didn't bantu education teach you guys basic economics 101

Beey:
It seems Ramaphosa is now mute. He can’t speak . Honestly speaking it’s about time other countries respond with speed. These SouthAfricans need to know that they do not have the monopoly of violence. So much lawlessness.

My brother let us not follow them in their violent madness instead just quietly ask their government to shut down all flights to Nigeria, Stop visa issuance to Nigerians, pack up the embassy and close their doors permanently to Nigerians and the rest of Africa so we know the line has been drawn in the sand.

omooba969:
There's never been a notable advancement since the black south africans took over that corntree.

There's something inherently wrong with the black race.

I am beginning to believe it.

MasterTeeUSA:
Looks like two different videos. Her shop is upstairs...the looted shop is not up and downstairs.

Its two videos. The first one is a group of vigilantes harassing workers at a store and terrorizing the young lady.

The second is rioters looting stores owned by foreigners.

JaceBlaze:
20 years of "xenophobia" and yet all that time foreigners never stopped coming here to live around us.hmm

They want to earn money from white monopoly capital to send back to their relatives not to become you.

RandDigital:
It's only gonna get worse - June 30 is the protesters' deadline for all undocumented immigrants to leave SA.

Stop scaring people Wena. This is not 1992 Boipatong massacre when your people got away with killing innocents.

We have internet now and the whole world is watching you closely.

jedisco:
It's mental slavery and failure of their leaders to tackle wealth inequality and move the country forward.

A good example of what hate can do

Their leaders know very well and come every election cycle it is like clock work for them some of their parties to incite these things. It's the only card they have on the table and they use it.

The lowest of the lowest in the society is the immigrant with no perceived rights in any given country.

Kushites:
SO LONG AS IT'S RECIPROCATED BY SOUTH AFRICANS AND THEIR BUSINESSES GETTING OUT OF EVERY AFRICAN COUNTRY.

WE HAVE CHINA TO DO WHATEVER WE WANT TO DO THAT WE CAN'T DO RIGHT NOW.

WE DON'T NEED SOUTH AFRICA FOR ANYTHING IN AFRICA.

GBAM!

jedisco:
Nobody deserves apartheid. You can discuss what's going on without looking down on your race

But some of them are saying they liked it better under apartheid.

JaceBlaze:
shut up kwe**kr!

AHH Jace, almost 20 years of xenophobia. It is not going to stop anytime soon. A new generation has taken over.

andrewza:
I mean we can just say you all hypocrites but non of you even understand that word.

Being hypocrites doesn't erase what we are seeing.

omooba969:
Samantha125 and her SA crew looking at this thread...

HAHAHAHAHAHAHA!!

Samantha125:
Looting can be used as a weapon of intimidation with the main purpose of chasing the owners of the shops out of the local economy, it's not always linked to hunger or poverty.

So you admit your people are engaging in criminal activity of attacks, intimidation vandalism dehumanization and theft? but I still don't get why you would loot in stores that have been accused of poisoning people?

Samantha125:
And you should know by now that the world doesn't care about Africans and Africa, there's ethnicity cleansing happening in Sudan, war in the DRC, insecurities in Nigeria, modern day slavery in Libya while the world is just sitting back and enjoying the show.

Anyways, I'm done with this argument, you kept me entertained while it lasted, time to move on.

You are moving on because you have no more logical arguments to offer. I understand it's exhausting keeping up the facade.

Samantha125:
So now we're gonna be talking about people who have a reputation in selling innocent SA locals poisoned food? You never cease to amaze me...🤣🤣🤣... One thing I like about this era is that it's a digital era and people are finally slowly starting to wake up to the truth.

Nothing threatens mainstream media and propagandists more than independent voices.

You just proved my point and gave me what I wanted, so thank you...😃😃😃

We need more activists like yourself in this life...🤭🤭🤭... Have a good day.

But you are looting the shops that are poisoning your kids. How does that make sense.

No matter how much you want to run around this subject matter Samantha it is becoming clearer and clearer that your people have some serious issues outside of anything concerning illegal immigrants and in your shame you guys do not want to admit it and the whole world is witnessing it before their very eyes again and again and again.

Its either the majority of the world is blind or you guys are?

zhike:
Call it whatever you want, the reality is that foreigners overstayed their visit in South Africa.

No the real problem is that the government admitted "legal" migrants into your country and instead of segregating them away from you people the took the chance of intergrating them into your communities and locations.

It did't work out and now they don't know what to do because these people are now legal in the country but you still want them to vacate.

You are in a conundrum my dear friends. Its xenophobia.

zhike:
Main reason south Africans don't understand Nigerians is that, Nigerians are afraid to confront challenges that Nigeria is facing, instead they run to other countries.

More that 90% of Nigerians still live in Nigeria so I am not sure what you mean by confronting challenges in Nigeria. This is done everyday by well meaning Nigerians but again you are fed propaganda about the rest of "africa" because you see poor Africans migrating to South Africa.

Go back to school

Samantha125:
All illegal immigrants are criminals, because you don't go to another country illegally unless you have illegal intentions.

SMH Samantha. I am too embarrassed to even attempt to answer what you just wrote.

Kobojunkie:
And section 15, subsection 1 of the immigration act 13 of 2002 prohibits immigrants, whether legal or illegal from operating in informal trade like spaza shops, salons, barber shops, street vending as they're strictly reserved for LOCALS ONLY!!!

You better go read that section in conjuction with the refugee act again my dear cause that is the nonsense your march and march keeps peddling around some of you that are not very bright.

Section 27 of the refugee act supercedes the immigration act and grants them the ability to do these things which is why they have not arrested any of them so far and are instead trying to regulate them. Most Somali if you are not aware of are on refugee status and so are a myriad of other "immigrants" in your country.

This is the reason your politicians are peddling the idea that this be changed to restrict these so called informal jobs to South Africans only. Mind you even if they were to do this it basically has nothing to do with people residing legally or illegally in the country.

Your government also gets subsidized monetarily by certain international organizaitons for every asylum seeker that applies in your country but I bet they won't disclose that to you either.

Shame!

Kobojunkie:
I don't know anything about motorcycle delivery drivers because I've never heard anyone complaining about them before.

Do you want me to post a video of them being threatened then you will believe. Ask and you shall be given.

Kobojunkie:
And you must be too old to believe everything that you see on mainstream media...lmao...🤣🤣🤣... Everyone knows that SA mainstream media is captured and under a payroll...🤣🤣🤣... But if it makes you sleep at night, feel free to keep believing whatever propaganda they tell you...🤣🤣🤣

Like we both said, no matter how much some people might try to deflect, the truth will always come out.

Poor Vusi is trying hard to explain away what he knows to be true because deep down inside he is ashamed because he is one of the sensible SOuth africans that actually travels the continent and has a better vantage point. I feel sorry for him. You can see the uneasiness in his demeanor and his eyes.

Little sister, I have been around long enough to discern the difference between what is propaganda on news media and real facts. You can try to attack me personally, but it does not take away from the fact. You people are either confused at what it is you are asking for from your government or you are Xenophobic.

i tend to believe the latter

andrewza:
that ilegaly people want to leave more than legal?

that Crimnals dont ask the police for help?

So you want only the undocumented out.

If this is the case, What was need for them to run to the police station in the first place?

why did you loot a legal egyptian man's store and steal all his stuff?

Why are your children harassing and rioting against highly likely "documented" foreign national children in schools

Ahhh Mfethu. You guys are dishonest nje!

andrewza:
There are nearly 3 million documented foreign immigrants in South Africa. We don't know how many undocumented foreigners there are since they are not documented

So you want only the undocumented out.

If this is the case, What was need for them to run to the police station in the first place?

why did you loot a legal egyptian man's store and steal all his stuff?

Why are your children harassing and rioting against highly likely "documented" foreign national children in schools

Ahhh Mfethu. You guys are dishonest nje!

andrewza:
The 300 that were leaving and and 450 at the police stastion where completly diffrent set of people.

and their results were also different so are both instances correct?

If so then what conclusion are we to attain from this?

andrewza:
It matters since the 300 leaving to Ghana's home affairs said only had 10 legal among them, whereas the group that was at the police station was a completely different group of people in a different province. One can assume that those looking for help from the police were legally in the country.

I am lost here.

andrewza:
As i said, I don't know enough about Ghana to trust them. They may like to lie a lot. I trust Home Affairs to be telling the truth. They have no reason to lie. In fact them saying that there were so many illegal immigrants among the flight out has only given the anti-immigration movements more power since now they can say that they are right.

So the ANC's best interest was to downplay the numbers, yet they did not.

But what about the 450 migrants who ran to the police station. The number of undocumented were less than 1% in that scenario but most of you came out to spew lines that it was impossible for Home affairs to verify papers in such a short period of time.

They must have improved their methods quite significantly in a short period of time and have now earned your trust.

Hmmm?

Samantha125:
As if black South Africans weren't also killed by those illegal foreign nationals.

False equivalence Sister. Criminals kill people and you are not harrassing, beating, terrorizing, dehumanzing, threatening any of these criminals.

You are busy with spaza shop owners, Hair dressers, Barber shop owners, Motorcycle delivery drivers etc.

You are not fooling anybody here. Keep trying to run away from the obvious.

Samantha125:
And last time I checked, you don't need to loot, harass, intimidate, or attack to be Xenophobic... A quick research will let you know that the word Xenophobia is defined as A STRONG FEELING OF DISLIKE OR FEAR OF PEOPLE FROM OTHER NATIONS OR CULTURES... It's an emotion, not an action.

You just described the impetus behind you actions my dear girl.

Samantha125:
So far I've been seeing nothing but contradiction and double standards from you where other nations are concerned...🤦🤦🤦

And you're right, no matter how much some people might try to deflect, the truth will always come out.

No double standards my dear. You guys are trying hard to justify your actions by pointing at other horrible acts human being perpertrate. This does not work no matter how many videos you post of very unintelligent people who want to drive traffic to their videos.

Everyone is allowed to get on the internet and spew all kinds of ridiculousness but facts remain facts.

Here are some videos against the accusations that your government is not doing anything about Illegal foreigners. Do you see anyone angry at those actions.

SMH!




https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=kuEWv8mtVhA


https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=qZGdrJUX8ac


https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=y30KdiL-vRA


https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=fFUTsf4eszM

JaceBlaze:
Believe Ghana representative.I am sure I didn't even have to tell you this one.

The honest and trust worthy Ghanaians whom you love so much more than Nigerians are now lieing against you for clout.

I believe them Charlie!!

andrewza:
Those were not all from this group or from Ghana. That was in a different city in a different province.

What you just said has no relevance. Is home affairs a provincial agent of government or is it national?

Samantha125:
Look at your hypocrisy...🤣🤣🤣... Did SA establish a track record before being labelled Xenophobic during the first anti illegal immigration protests back in 2008? Or you only apply formalities when it's other nations other than SA?

SMH.

It was used back then to describe what was "an event" that involved attacks and killings of specifically black foreigners. What did you want them to call it, terrorism or ethnic cleansing?

It persisted and was branded. If you don't understand what was just explained, I can't help you.

Samantha125:
I'm still waiting to see you guys together with the entire Africa forming a united front against Ghanaians, British, Togolese, and Cambodians across all social media platforms, labelling them Xenophobes or your far rightwing ethno nationalist bigots... Or is that unity only channelled towards SA?

Ghana and Togo- a non issue.

British- A European problem being criticized by Europeans. No beatings, no intimidation, no looting just lawful protests.

Cambodians- An official government memo alerting visa overstayers of the legal implications "if" caught juxtaposed to a people running around attacking, harassing, beating, intimidating, looting and terrorizing migrants legal or illegal.


No matter how much you guys want to deflect this. It is what we are seeing on our t.v. screens on a constant basis.

andrewza:
80% where claimed to be legal by Ghana and 10% claimed by South Africa. I dont know Ghanian goverment enough but i do trust the South African government when it says only 10 appear in the database.

But your people said they were lieing when they claimed out of 450 migrants at the police building only like 30 were undocumented.

Why do you believe them when the numbers favor your narrative.

Hmmm?

andrewza:
It les the correct but both sides can be correct.

When they left Ghana and arrived in South Africa, they were legal, but then they over stayed there VISA, did not reneuw there paper work or a host of other things that made them illegal.


The big issue with Ghana is why do so many have asylum in South Africa. In fact, the laws just changed in South Africa where you can only request asylum once. In the past, you could just keep requesting and basically reset how long you can stay. That alone could of made them illegal. There is no way someone from Ghana could get asylum since the country is stable with no wars or repressive laws.


On point two, as long as something is in process, you're legal.

I have zero issues with sanitizing a system that is broken but at the end of the day 80% of those individuals were legal.

You people are confusing me with your demands.

KingCold:
lol..what do you know about being "civilized" coming from that part of world? Now, like I said.. read the memo, keep it moving

keep it moving.... Respond.... Vamoose..... respond.

Which is it

KingCold:
Correction. Im tired of the xenophobia BS you're so obsessed with

Get some caffeine in your system.

This is going to be a long ride for you. I know how stubborn your people can get.

KingCold:
You have a literacy rate of 65%, I'd say education is far more needed in Nigeria..

I thought you were tired of me.

HAHAHAHAHA!

Samantha125:
More excuses!!! So now it's apples and oranges...🤣🤣🤣...Then why isn't anybody calling those negligent minuscule crowd of hungry people on the streets Xenophobic? Is the word "Xenophobia" applicable only when it's SA?



I'm still waiting for you to answer my question...🤭🤭🤭

Because they haven't established a track record. You people started this thing almost two decades ago. You have earned the name Xeno/Afro phobics.

Samantha125:
I also didn't see you guys forming a united front against the British and calling them Xenophobic when they came out in their thousands to protest against illegal immigration in their country after an illegal Ethiopian national was found guilty of sexually assaulting a minor... Where was this energy that you guys have towards SA when the British were protesting?🤭🤭🤭

We are not doing that because we have British parties, the British public and commentators doing that on behalf of the vulnerable unlike in your country and Yes, we do have a name for them. They are called far rightwing ethno nationalist bigots. If you run a search you will see it pop up.

You can have several names to describe similar acts my dear just like you people call people grimgamba, Makwerekwerere or Zai Zai.

Different expressions but same thing, just different labels.


https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=iHyOq6lIAZ0