₦airaland Forum

Mynd44:
I don't see the problem here. I support the view of deporting illegal immigrants. I don't see why you can go to another country through the back door and be expected to be treated with kid gloves. People who travel to other places illegally should be deported.

The whole matter of being "immigrant friendly" should be limited to legal immigrants only.

On the flip side, these raids are sometimes excessive and need to be done right to avoid unnecessary violence

It's because you think Mr. Trump is going to stop at the illegals if he succeeds in this gestapo style activity in Minnesota.

Poor student of history.

RandDigital:
Never thought I'd DISAGREE with a Nigerian on deportations but I totally don't support ICE. The whole world is appalled and most importantly so am I😁😁😁

My homies JaceBlaze and IronGalaxy, we gonna disagree. There are better deportation ways than what's happening in America. It's shocking!

Randdigital! can't believe such an amazing comment coming out of a South African's mouth.

There is hope for the future generations of Sad Africans. Well done.

Princedapace:
Thanks for the compliment, unfortunately, many dont speak the truth in Nigeria, always lying

Guy, beware of Irongalaxy. Wolf in sheep's clothing.

He likes it when Nigerians castigate themselves while hiding his country people's filth and hatred for others.

Patrickker:
Why are we Nigerians always like this? We are very quick to spew negatives only about our country on public fora. This is what you hardly see other people from other countries do. Are those countries perfect? No. Are their citizens satisfied with their leaders? No. Their jibes aren't like ours. Then when all these South Africans, Ghanaians, Kenyans and now the Namibians who equally have a lot going on their countries come here to read our derogatory comments about our own country and decide to get back at us, we complain. We need to learn how to talk even when we have a lot to say. It is wisdom.

Na we dey cause am.

South Africans are number 1 at hiding their dirty sheets under their pillows.

KingOfAmebo:
What exactly is your point with this post? Don't you people have a forum as big as nairaland in your country? Why are you always coming here to be posting rubbish? I don't blame you I blame the moderators suffering from inferiority complex that pushed this nonsense to front page.

Bros don't mind Randdigital, he is just here to agitate people because his girlfriend was stolen from him by a Nigerian so he comes here to let out his frustrations.

Princedapace:
Even Nigeria ? hahaaha
u think hosting is about Stadium alone? oga, we cant, we cant, we cant. Na why we no fit.
A lot are involved in hosting competitions o. Even the smallest competitions sef. Nigeria has a lot of problems to tackle abeg, water, light, security, road, hospitality. When Ispeed came here, we didnt even have nice places for toursim to take him to. When u host, u must have working and vibrant toursim sector, pls. Remove Nigeria from the list. Morocco bid and win, others should bid and win too. Morocco is co hosting world cup, that alone should tell u their pedigree in stuff like this. Like I said, only SA, Egypt, can challenge Morocco ins infrastructure o. That country no be our mate abeg.

Make dem host am, no wahala but I encourage my people not to go for the event. We don't support xenophobic people.

AirBere:

You're obviously a Nigerian acting like South African. Just like the other kid Samantha.

Mba o!

He is a bonafide Sad African who's girlfriend was stolen by an igbo man in South Africa so he has hate for us.

Makschinchin:
Truth be told... Naija dey beg shaaaaaaaaa

its part of the culture.

placeofallure:
This one is just being delusional. SA as how now? Anything Nigeria dey always give them headache. Remember the xenophobic attacks, the Uber war, the recent AFCON. The list is endless. What they don't know is person wey big pass you don big pass you.

Dem dey vex say no matter what dey throw at Naija, we dey stand gidigba.

No retreat, no surrender.

placeofallure:
Oga Ade, get your facts straight! This AFCON never tey na, E suppose dey fresh for your head. They started it when we couldn't qualify for the World Cup. They were so excited you'd think Nigeria missing out would translate to the cup being automatically handed to them. Then, every mad bull dog in SA had opinions about why we lost, about how our FA is corrupt, about how our players are flukes. Wetin be their own? Busy bodies and Haters!

No mind them. Na 3 game practice dem dey go play for World cup.

I am boycotting their games Would rather watch Congo.

Ihaveleftnaija:
This SA–Nigeria tension is not one-way and didn’t start yesterday. Xenophobia is wrong, yes — but Nigerians pretending we’ve never contributed to the problem is pure delusion.

Drug syndicates, Uber violence, document fraud, online insults, AFCON taunting — we’ve played our part whether we like it or not. We taunt South Africans aggressively when we win, but cry bias and conspiracy when they win. What should be sports rivalry turns into national hostility on both sides .

To make it worse, Nigerian content creators are obsessed with South Africa — farming clicks from hate while pretending innocence. Big person no dey shout innocence. Accountability is what grown nations do.

Make the beef continue.

As long as nobody kpai.

IronGalaxy:
wiser? Hell no

The great Morpheus always says. "Don't think you are. Know you are"

RandDigital:
So black SA government doesn't have revenue? Everything is white this, white that.

Morpheus I thought you were wiser than that.

Where does the SA government get a majority of their revenue from to fund those BEE tenderpreneurs?

You think it's from your payroll tax?

RandDigital:
What's that river in Egypt again?

"Black middle class surpassed white middle class years ago" 😂😂😂🇿🇦🏆🏆🏆

You don't get it do you?

The money is from "White monopoly capital" not the "white middle class"

RandDigital:
⬇️You mean these developments that targeted mostly townships and rural areas in the first 20 years of black governance? Something Nigeria hasn't achieved in 60 years. Show us equivalent in Makoko and Nigerian villages.

All that progress on the back of White monopoly capital. Redistribution of wealth and zero real wealth creation by your people.

IronGalaxy:
im done with this convo

As always.

Omi24:
Nigerian arrested for this, Nigerian arrested for that all the time. If it is not drug then it's fraud

Is this how you people have decided to tarnished the image of this blessed country completely? Is it a crime to be in the same country with you guys?

We accept all Nigerians including these ones.

If you deny them then you must deny 90% of the super eagles team.

IronGalaxy:
Nice try.. Name one colored person in South Africa who's referred to as black or a white or black colored, I'll wait.. I'm simply telling you what goes on here, not what you want to hear

Gayton is a black person who is considered a colored as well He has mentioned numerous times that he is a black and a colored. Black is a racial category.

Ashley Saul is black man who is a black man who is considered a colored.

They both carefully avoid the terminology "bantu" because they understand the implications. Therefore they are coloreds who are black.

IronGalaxy:
Being white-passing doesn't make a person white. Same with a "colored-passing" black South African..

The rest is typical Seppuku mumble

I warned you about setting rules that will fall flat in your face. Race has gradients and there is no clear cut distinguishing line. You cannot tell if someone is genetically 100% white without taking a DNA test. People can express phenotypically white without being 100% genetically White/European. This is why the term colored is an erroneous racial category and should be replaced simply with mixed race.

Case in point the two individuals below Ryan Giggs and Stephen Graham are both white and not " white passing" and you would not mistake them for coloreds even though this is what they should be categorized as in your society on a "RACIAL" basis.

IronGalaxy:
There's nothing like a "white colored" in a South African context.. never heard of or seen them; you might be talking about skin tone, of which the offspring would remain colored if both parents are colored

Ahh I see the spectrum of colored expression only goes one way toward the darkest of the coloreds.

This is why Sandra laing's brother who was racially colored passed in your country as a White. Mind you he is just one example of many coloreds ( people of mixed heritage) who did this. So indeed if we have black coloreds, it is safe to conclude that we also have white coloreds since colored is indeed a racial category and can be expressed in numberous phenotypical expressions.

IronGalaxy:
Colored culture can't exist without colored people.. I can't dumbb it down that this

Ergo one possibility is contingent upon the others existence invalidating the notion that they are mutually dependent. In this instance their correlation implies causation.

Shikena

IronGalaxy:
I've seen colored as dark as Gayton, having lineages that span all over, Gayton himself claimed some of his lineage is Irish

My cousin has green eyes. He can claim the same too but that doesn't make it true now does it?

IronGalaxy:
7I didnt dodge the question, im just becoming bored with this convo because you're just arguing for its sake. Mestizo came into being in the same way as colored people.. and both of these come with respective cultural and social implications

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=_p-KgNnFqcs

Clever boy but you please watch this video to invalidate your stubbornness.

I never argue for argument sake. There is always a point whether you accept or not.

IronGalaxy:
USizwe, is bi-racial now because logically speaking, the offspring of two parents of different races is bi-racial.

But if a colored person who is white(and they do exist) marries a colored person who is black( and they do exist) bear offspring the child is racially a colored person and not bi-racial.

Yeah I get you now, makes perfect logical sense.

IronGalaxy:
To be culturally colored you must be colored simple.. the two are mutual dependent. Mixed people gave birth to colored people and colored culture was born of that.

We can agree to disagree on what constitutes mutual dependency but my clear understanding of what this means is that both events are dependent on each other to be substantive. A mother is not dependent on a child to substantiate her existence but a child most definitely does therefore one is contingent upon the other. I will leave it at that.

IronGalaxy:
Colored people do appear colored and be colored culturally.. So Gayton looking black doesnt invalidate his coloredness.. colored people even look Indian.. these are all parts of their DNA manifesting themselves phenotypically

Gayton is indeed culturally colored no doubt about that and looking black cannot invalidate his coloredness because colored is an erroneous racial category.
Gayton doesn't look black, Gayton is black both phenotypically and I daresay if a DNA test is done will likely be 100% black African( Bantu/Khoi) and so will Ashley Saul.

IronGalaxy:
Its called supporting an argument. If you deny the legibility of colored peole you deny the legibility of mestizo people and their culture because the two came out the same way..

You dodged the question by using a strawman but let's rephrase so there is no confusion.

Mestizos are a "MIXED RACE" people primarily of Native and Europeans admixtures. What culture do they practice that is identifiable and separate from all the other types of mixed race of people in Latin America that would support the argument that they are both a distinct racial category and simultaneously a distinct culture?

IronGalaxy:
in Latin America the term "mestizo" denotes culture and race.. same as with colored people

Scrambling to validate your point eh Mfethu.
let's investigate your assertion then

Can you tell me the difference between a Latin American Mulato and a Latin American Mestizo in terms of culture?