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The reality of Nigerian Higher education today is that when people cannot get into Universities (we don't have enough Universities) they go to Polytechnics.

The HND holders are not treated as 'graduates who have better practical skills'. They are treated as 'inferior graduates' as Diakim points out. I don't think they acquire any more practical skills than University graduates, though I am open to correction from any Polytechnic student or graduate.

If I am wrong, why is it that companies want candidates with B.Sc. in Computer Science for entry level programming or network admin jobs? Programming and network administration are practical tasks, right?

Government should be done is to systematically convert our Polytechnics into Universities, and remove the unecessary distinction. This way, we'll have less pressure on the current universities due to the HND holders trying to 'upgrade' themselves to the B.Sc level. This way, our limited facilities will be put to better use.

Personally, I would employ any first class holder from a federal institution, B.Sc or HND, regardless of the course. For the others, what matters is things like level of reasoning, willingness to absorb and apply information, experience, and so on. This can be tested in various ways.

From the point of view of someone seeking a job, however, the reality on ground means that they should make every effort to get into a University if they want to fly high in their careers. Too bad. I wish that more young people would try to create their own jobs, so things like this won't be the issue. Someone who is spending an additional 3-4 years in school to upgrade is HND to B.Sc. is not being economically productive in that period.

mamba: If I'm dating someone, it doesn't necessarily mean that it must lead to the next stage which is supposed to be courtship.

Mamba, I love your detailed, informative posts. I think I like your model better, but only if you remove the clause "this fun could graduate into having sex regularly after some time." I mean, why does taking someone to joints have to graduate into sex? I take my male friends out to eat and I don't expect it to graduate to sex, so why should the act of taking my female friends out to eat graduate into sex?

If dating is just a "social appointment" which does not imply the possiblity of courtship/engagement/marriage, then there is nothing wrong in dating multiple people at the same time, right? Then the phrase 'my girlfriend' should be changed to just "friend". I mean, I have a lot of older female [I]friends[/I] and I will happily take them out to joints just to eat and have fun [I]talking[/I] ... If hanging out and talking is what dating is about, yes I will date them!

I don't see why "an appointment" has to graduate into sex!

Hello,

One of our first storms over on MobileNigeria was the issue of post editing. There is no doubt about the fact that most regular contributors do not like their posts to be edited at all (Trae_z, AYA). Others are a bit more accepting, but would still prefer that the the editing to be minimized.

There is also no doubt about the fact that editing can make the forum much more readable (fact: 99% or more of forum activity is reading). In addition, editing takes a lot of time which could be used for gathering new information to enrich the forum.

What say you? Right now I'm still doing a lot of editing.

Seun.

I can date an older girl but will never marry a girl that's older than me.

What is the purpose of such dating (Here we go again!)

Login first. http://wap2.nairaland.com The wap version doesn't support posting.

What is warranty? (just kidding )

Hmmm ... I am surprised that people are so open-minded about this! Pleasantly surprised!

The fraud factor, heh?

Those two sites advertise regularly in the local papers and are reputed to be dependable.

However, you can use those sites to check the prices online, then advice your dad to buy the phones in a local shop. On ShopForLess, the Sony Ericcson T610 costs 24,800 naira and the 7260 costs 44,600 at this time (just checked). One is cheaper and one is more expensive .

All over the world people are crazy about stars. "Britney Spears" has been the top search term on google for years!

Yuck! Licking of wounds is something for [I]puppies[/I]!

In our culture, it is very important to respect our superiors:
- A younger person is expected to respect older people as superiors.
- A wife is expected to respect her husband as a superior.

Now when your wife is older than you which rule do you follow? Who is to be respected as the superior?

Some places to look:

www.shopforless.com (I believe they sell phones)
www.computerport.biz (maybe)

I love that guy! (Oleku Konko) As a web designer he can afford to host faceoffestac.net for free and make money by designing websites for clients that discover him through the site. I can't wait to be able to hire a professional web designer like him! Nairaland would be world class!

Hunter, you're right. But Globacom Limited is reported to building its own fiber optic link to the UK, which should provide the necessary competition. NITEL's IP Broadband service is still in competition with VSAT providers, so at least it [I]will be cheap[u]er[/u][/I] than what we have now.

Though the bandwidth cost may not be much less VSAT for now, the network latency would be much lower. So Internet browsing should be much faster in networks that use this service. (There's a limit to how fast you can browse on a VSAT network regardless of bandwidth at your disposal).

I don't think we're missing much by not being able to stream video in real-time. A lot of essential business activities only require web access, which we have now.

That's right! The official name of the service is 'IP Wholesale' and you can read about it on Thisday Online:

"The IP Wholesale service provides bandwidth to the worldwide internet using the NITEL IP Gateway in Lagos. The Gateway is connected via the SAT-3 cable to the worldwide internet and will provide access to a broad range of clientele who are increasingly deploying as the platform for their businesses in the networked global information economy."
http://www.thisdayonline.com/nview.php?id=15076
(login with username nairaland, password nairaland)

The home page of the SAT 3 cable system is: http://www.safe-sat3.co.za/

https://www.safe-sat3.co.za/Awareness/SAT3WASCSAFE.gif

This is a typical Mobile Nigeria 'fun question'. It may have happened to me before, but only due to the phone battery running out of power.

The problem is high speed broadband in this country.

If you're Britney Spears and your site is a Flash site, people will wait for it to load! Fans will not say "Britney Spear's site is too slow, let me check Plantation Boyz instead." Besides, musicians are supposed to have cool sites.

But for most sites, there are alternatives. We need to do everything to encourage people to come to our sites. If you can make it load faster without any loss in quality, why not? If you can use a little CSS instead of a mat of images and it looks the same, why not?

Reltel also has such a service. Whatever PTOs are in Abuja could launch similar service anytime. VSAT providers should recognize the next wave and embrace it. You can't insist on charging people 300k for what they can get for 30k, or 60k monthly when another person is ready to offer 15k! You can't do that forever.

The following article was originally written by Laide O on her blog, Ex School Nerd. Laide is a 19 year old student of the University of Lagos (UNILAG). Edited and reproduced with permission.

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Women, their own enemies ...
Don't we ever get tired of the bickering, the [I]bitching[/I], the pettiness? Where does it end with women? Yes, [I]we[/I] women, including you reading and giving me the eye. You know you do it, me included.

I used to be a mean girl - bad mouthing, [I]bitching[/I], basically just hating girls for no damn reason. I later found out it was because I was so insecure and threatened by these girls. I had to bring them down to sort of feel better. Pathetic, right?

And so I decided it was time to put off the [I]bitching[/I], because really where does it get you? It really doesn't make you feel better; it just makes you a bitter bitter person.

I decided to put all that energy into something more positive. Nowadays you hardly see me [I]cussing out[/I] some other chick - a total waste of time - but that's what we girls do. We hate each other most of the time for "no damn reason". That's what I call '[size=13pt]uneccessary beef[/size]'.

A typical example: Me and two of my friends, Amaka and Nora, who hate each other with a passion. Anytime I ask them "why?" it is always the same response: "I don't know, I just don't like her!"

Ok, we are waiting for the lift with a bunch of boys from our class, and then Nora asks Amaka, "Amaka are you wearing anything underneath your pants?" (yes, I know, that kind of question is not called for). Amaka gives her this devilish look. The boys laugh a little. Obviously Amaka is hurt, thinking Nora was trying to make fun of her. The hatred goes deeper from there.

And you know what I hate the most? I'm always the middleman (or woman). I am always the one who gets to hear all the spiteful things about the other. Amaka would come to me, "God I hate that Nora girl! She thinks she's fly ... the bow-legged [I]bitch[/I]. Later Nora comes over, "God I knew Amaka was a slut, but she's taking it to another level!"

The worst thing you could ever do is partake in the [I]bitching[/I]. Oh no, don't even think about it. Because one day when you fall out with one of them (and oh yes you will, girls will be girls) the next day you'd see them holding hands ... they've suddenly become bossom buddies, and they both have one thing in common: they hate your guts with a passion! I've tried my best to call a truce between them, but the battle line has been drawn and there's no going back.

There's also what I call the [size=13pt]show of shame[/size]. Recently two women on my estate had this public brawl. These women used to be quite inseperable, as I gathered. They've known each other for quite a while. So recently, they had a tiff, and it got so bad that they were actually fighting: pulling hair, scratching, kicking.

Then it was time to wash their dirty linen in public. One was like "You, you this LovePeddler! How many abortions have you had? You this prostitute. Now you're married you think you are better than me." And this said woman's husband was trying to separate them. of course, he had this confused look on his face because he had no idea whatsoever.

Why do that to your friend? Why bring back her past and expose it in front of everyone? This is probably something she told you in confidence, but because of the little tiff you felt the need to bring it all out.

That's why I like guys. Yes, I know, we call them the 'scum of the earth', 'good for nothing' (which of course they, some of them, are). But one thing with guys, they always have the back of their own. No matter how heated they are, they will never air their friends' past in public. It's like they have this code of silence which all of the follow, which is why their friendships last longer.

Two dudes could fight and in a couple of days they are back together. Easy going set of people. But we women, no way. What has she gained exposing her friend? I know for sure that even if they reconcile, there is no way the other woman would forgive her friend, let alone trust her. I know I wouldn't, a fight isn't the end of the friendship. Remember that, it's just a part of it.

Look at the many female musical groups that have split up: TLC, 3lw, Destiny's child, Spice Girls, SWV, All Saints, Sugar Babes. If you actually take the pains to find out the cause of their split, you'd find out it was probably some senseless thing. And they felt the need to throw away what they had because they were too proud to get off their high horse and apologise.

We see it with black girls. Talking with their neck, making their fingers snap, saying “oh no you didn't” Even white chicks, it’s the same with all girls. We all got attitude, hating the next girl.

She’s dressed to kill, she’s going to a party. At the party she’s most definitely the hottest thing around, she thinks she’s Ms. Thang. Till she arrives … the other girl ... she's drop dead gorgeous! Everyone’s eyeing her now … then the green eyed monster is let loose.

She starts looking for a fault with her “Oh my God, she think she cute. You'd never catch me dead in that!” Yeah right. You know she’s fly, everyone knows she’s fly, it wouldn't hurt to admit it and get over it. Hey, you can't always be the one in the spotlight. She’s fine, get over it and have fun!

Then their's the [size=13pt]guy fight[/size]. You catch your guy with some other chick, and you start your own rendition of “The Boy is Mine” by Brandy and Monica with her. You call her names, promise to beat her up, cuss at her, then you leave with your boyfriend, saying she tried to seduce him!

That’s nonsense, you need to set his trifling ass straight! For all you know, he might have told her he didn’t have a girlfriend. But you prefer to be in denial. Wake up my dear! When I see two girls fighting over a guy, its just so pathetic.

Fighting, kicking, scratching. [I]Haba![/I] If he’s stupid enough to cheat on you, he’s not worth you. Walk away. Do not disgrace yourself. I tell you, the guy wouldnt do the same for you, ever! When last did you see two guys publicly fighting over a girl. Yeah right! Even if they did, they’d settle in two days.

And guys use this to their advantage. They know how much hatred we have for each other, so they use it to set us against each other.

Ladies, where is the love? Let's learn to love more and hate less. Stop perceiving bad vibes from the next girl when she's not giving you any bad vibes. Stop giving each other attitude. It leads us no where. And let's be less emotional about stuff.

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(Editor: '[I]bitching[/I]' is slang for 'complaining'. It is often used in reference to unfair complains made by women. I couldn't find a non-slang synonym.)

What do you think? Original Entry

Kodewrita, can you describe 'love in its literary form'? Can you tell us how 'love in its literary form' is different from 'infatiatuations', 'stupid obsessions', and 'deep affection'?

See also: what is true love?

Because she's older! :-o

What the original poster means:
'Would you pursue a romantic relationship with an older girl?"

axeprince: There are VSAT solutions that he can get for as low as 350 thousand Naira and monthly bandwidth for as low as 60 thousand naira.

24 hour access using Multilinks/Starcomms costs 15,000 naira per month . The days when an individual will need to get a VSAT for reliable Internet access are over!

Thanks. Now tell your friends!

When the issue first came up in a thread about the MTN Sunshine ad, I decided to tell a little story:
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A Nigerian man went to spend some time with an American friend named Joe.

When they got home, Joe went straight to his wife, gave her a hug and told her how beautiful she was and how much he had missed her at work. When it was time for supper, he complimented his wife on her cooking, kissed her and told her how much he loved her.

The Nigerian man told Joe that he was surprised that he fussed so much over his wife. Joe said that he'd started this about 6 months ago, it had revived their marriage, and things couldn't be better. The Nigerian thought he'd give it a try.

When the Nigerian man got home, he gave his wife a massive hug, kissed her and told her that he loved her. His wife burst into tears. He was confused and asked why she was crying.

She said, "This is the worst day of my life. First, junior fell off his bike and twisted his ankle. Then, the freezer broke down and all our foodstuff has gone bad. And now, you come home drunk!"
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So, maybe Nigerian men are not romantic. On the other hand, what about the women? In the same thread, user dayojong shared the following scenario:
Husband: This morning, my gift for you is sunshine. Go ahead and grab it, I am sending it on MTN mms.
Wife: Abeg shut up there. [I]Na sunshine we go chop?[/I] Wayo man.
He concluded, "And that, my friends, is a Naija woman. QED."
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Are these allegations true? Are Nigerian men more romantic than the women, or vice versa? Or are Nigerians simply unromantic? If so, why? Are there any exceptions to the general rule?

Do you have any views, experiences, stories to share, questions to ask? Please feel free! Perhaps we will reach a popular concensus on this particular issue.

Maurice, registration is over. They are now screening potential contestants:
http://www.gulderultimatesearch.TV/search/roadshow/day_3.htm

Sorry.

After all the woman was created later, in order to assist the man.

You've put this very eloquently! But does this mean an unmarried woman is not fulfilling her purpose in life?

They don't provide SMS or WAP dating services. MTN is not in a better position to launch an Internet dating service than Nairaland or any other organization.

We need to get our sports forum organized!

Thanks for raising this interesting topic. We have a lot of married people browsing Nairaland, and I am sure they will be happy to contribute their opinions. Some of them will need to register and login before they can participate, and I'll like to implore them to take those steps. Registration only takes two minutes!

An anonymous visitor dropped this message for eniolatj:
[I]"... you have good points and I agree with you that husband and wife shouldn't be involved in the same profession."[/I]

That's why they think it's ok to call her from the same room just to say ''good morning'' How far?

This is called 'romance'. Nairaland ladies, please tell him! (I know you want to ...)