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MaxInDHouse:
That means there shouldn't be any mention of Holy Ghost activities in the old covenant shey?

OK what about other Ananiah and Sapphira been killed hence Holy Ghost killer!

Paul got blind hence Holy Ghost blindness!

Herod was struck and maggots eat him at the stance Holy Ghost maggots!

The truth is God's holy spirit works in various ways so laying undue emphasis on fire is totally out of sense!

Kindly do me the honor of explaining the "power" in Acts 1:8 " But ye shall receive power after that the Holy ghost comes on you..........

MaxInDHouse:
There's nothing as such, God destroyed Noah's rebellious contemporaries through a global deluge, if we're to go by the logic of Churchgoers there should be "Holy Ghost deluge/rain"

God destroyed Sodom and Gomorrah with hail Holy Ghost hail

God struck Egypt with different plagues so the should be Holy Ghost ~ snakes, water turn to blood, frogs, gnats, hails, flies and so on shey?

God splitted the red sea hence Holy Ghost divider!

God demolished Jericho hence Holy Ghost bulldozer!

God made sun to stand still hence Holy Ghost stoppage!

God turned the fairy furnace Nebuchadnezzar threw the three Hebrews into air conditioner hence Holy Ghost cooler!

God caused Mary to get pregnant without sex hence Holy Ghost conception!

So the idea of Holy Ghost fire is propagated by hardhearted and stubborn religionsists who are nursing the idea of taking vengeance into their own hands in contrast to what Jesus taught us to forgive and pray for our enemies.
Jesus' followers also had the same line of thought but he rebuked them! Luke 9:51-56

You took it too far, whatever happened in the old testament was the effect of God's direct dealings without any intermediary.
Attaching the Holy ghost to rain, bullzoder, divider all of which happened in the old covenant is a trivialization of the subject and an attempt to disrupt the order of dispensational dominance by members of the Trinity.
However, you're right about the conception of virgin Mary which was a function of Holy ghost intervention .

Hence, let's focus on the Holy ghost dominated new testament .

Goshen360:
You're speaking in tongues without interpretation. Give us one scripture that says Holy Ghost FIRE. All you did was go to a website that conjured all kinds of scriptures that doesn't address the question.

What about Holy ghost power?

Acehart:
Malachi 3:2 “But who can endure the day of His coming? And who can stand when He appears? For He is like a refiner's fire and like fullers' soap.

We Christians should be careful to say a lot of things that have no scriptural backing and thereby leading many people to hell.

The scripture above shows that Christ is like the refiner’s fire, and not the inanimate use of the word “it” to describe Him. Even Malachi was using a comparison and not the crude interpretation you gave. It studying the Bible is not your forte, stop commenting so that your word will not kill the soul.

There is nothing like “Holy Ghost Fire” in the scriptures; the only thing that burns up satanic habit is the Grace of sanctification according the gospel. If the scripture is your love, you would know that in contrast to the fire of terror of Mount Sinai, the fire of assurance and comfort is what burns on Mount Zion, the same fire that caused the burning bush not to burn.

Does the term Holy ghost power exist?

CaptMarvel:
old testament believers won't ask this question!

Don't box me yet, you can't be sure where I stand

Some claim it exists only in the imagination of those who invoke it, while many believe in it's efficacy and potency.
Which side of the divide do you stand? No sitting on fence here .

I admire your faith and optimism, but it's actually more complicated than your prescription.

1. Pentecostals - They believe in the baptism of the Holy ghost with the evidence of speaking in tongues. There is a geometric proliferation of Pentecostals today

2. Charismatics-. These are the Pentecostals in the mainline churches. They believe in the baptism of the holy spirit with the evidence of speaking in tongues. However , they choose to stay with the mother church without necessarily breaking out. There are many of such in the Catholic Church.


3. Evangelicals - They believe in the baptism of the Holy ghost , but do not believe in tongues. They are of the opinion that speaking in tongues ended on the day of Pentecost.


However, all these groups are categorized under the nomenclature " Evangelicals" because they all agree with and believe the same fundamentals of faith.

dasparrow:
This has nothing to do with being lilly livered and chicken hearted. Take your chauvinist attitude and shove it up your azz where the sun don't shine. Why would you ask such a distasteful question? And for the sick Nigerian MCs who "joke" at wedding receptions asking such a question need to have their heads examined.

Why joke about death? And then you wonder why many Nigerian men die before their children are even old enough to get married. Weddings should be a time of celebration and not a time to ask whether it is the man or the woman who should die first. Some of you are just sick in the head. Get outta here with this mess!

The emotional and mental sagacity to theorize and philosophize on weighty matters of this magnitude is seldom in the custody of feeble minded homo sapiens.

Ishilove:
Lmaaao!! Ride on!!!

Bro, no hard feelings, just keeping it real.

Happy Independence

Ishilove:
Choooiiii, see improperly used English!!

Just admit you are bereft of the cerebral acumen to effectively navigate your path in this intellectual peregrination which inadvertently made you resort to sobbing.

Ishilove:
Chai, 2dice01, it seems like OP opened Oxford dictionary on top of our matter today. LWKMD!!

What a dumbass

Lol, apparently your cerebrally challenged syndicate left your black ass to burn in the inferno.

Ishilove:
Lol. It seems you just learned these words which is why you have used them wrongly. You create a dumb topic like someone rightly pointed out and you don't expect to be called out? Why do you keep avoiding my suggestion that you direct your demonic question to your sibs?

I'm going to stop responding to your idiocy so the thread doesn't extend beyond one page, thereby giving passersby the wrong notion that the thread is a sensible one.

Thought you vowed not to pontificate the gibberish from your miasma conditioned mind.

2dice01:
All these dumb topics..

Your banal, prosaic and humdrum mind obviously can't comprehend or fathom the discourse.

Ishilove:
Lol. It seems you just learned these words which is why you have used them wrongly. You create a dumb topic like someone rightly pointed out and you don't expect to be called out? Why do you keep avoiding my suggestion that you direct your demonic question to your sibs?

I'm going to stop responding to your idiocy so the thread doesn't extend beyond one page, thereby giving passersby the wrong notion that the thread is a sensible one.

English Professor, please kindly correct the errors in your deluded mind .

It's crystal clear as the star studded heaven that you're not emotionally stable enough to discuss the topic " death". Hence , you started displaying your mental epilepsy.

Next time, ignore the topic and swerve.

Ishilove:
I didn't bother reading the body because the title put me off. What a satanic question.

You epitomize the mentally lazy youth who wouldn't read, but hasty to open her buca cavity to spill what is left of her preconceived, prejudiced mind.
Without any shadow of ambiguity you are one of those still afraid of death, that's why you're still a baby. It's people like you who wouldn't write their will thinking they will live forever.

Ishilove:
Na you get your mouth. No God fearing MC will use death to joke at a wedding so don't use that as a yardstick to ask demonic questions. When your siblings are getting married you are free to ask them who will die first.

Before nko, you wan claim my mouth? Na by force to comment? Abeg swerve, it's obvious you are either a teenager, naive youth or a teenager trapped in the body of an adult

Ishilove:
I didn't bother reading the body because the title put me off. What a satanic question.

Typical of a Lilly livered, chicken hearted woman. This is a question MCs joke with at wedding engagements.

MightySparrow:
Mostly men die before men because of frustration at homefront. No. 3 is most relevant, check your environment, there are more landladies than landlords. 80% of the men are gone 20 years before their wives who are less than 10 years younger.

Number 2 seems to be the case with most of the deaths recorded.

WHO SHOULD DIE FIRST?

Its glaring for all and sundry that more husbands die before their wives. In fact, its naturally expected that the husband should bite the dust of death before his wife . And its beginning to look like one of those laws of nature. People are quick to label as "strange" when it's the wife that passes on ahead of the husband . I really don't know which side of the divide is more appropriate.

Below are some reasons I think is responsible for this

(1) Men marry younger women -

From time immemorial, a man preferred to marry a much younger woman. Even now, the trend is still generally considered as the natural order. Age is considered vital when the subject of submission is raised, even more within the context of marriage. It is said that a woman is more likely to submit to a husband older than her. Since the older is expected to die before the younger, this implies that the husband should anticipate death before his wife.

(2) Men risk their lives to feed the family -

The primary responsibility of the husband is to cater for his family's welfare. In the process of looking for bread, he is exposed to numerous hazards. Have you noticed that women are hardly the targets of assassins, men are mostly the victims. These are some of the hazards men face while transacting high profile businesses and negotiations. A man's life is not exactly far from death. Though women also face a lot of risk today as breadwinners.

(3) Some women don't take care of their husbands -

When a woman denies her husband a good and balanced meal, suffocates him by her unending nagging , disrespects the man and gives him no real reason to be happy, she's gradually pushing her husband to the grave

(4) Some women deliberately kill their husbands-

A man's wife is in the best position to kill him. Disputes over property allocation via a will, adultery and other domestic issues may prompt a wife to decide to terminate her husband's life.
I pray that you will not marry a killer wife. And for the married, may your wife not develop killing tendencies.

By and large, death is inevitable for the husband, wife and the children who will grow to become husbands and wives in the future.
Of more importance than death is what happens to the deceased and bereaved after death, because honestly, anyone can kick the bucket first.

To all you critics spilling trash like you're the most sanctimonious holier than thou Nigerian. You better watch it and pray that God will deliver you from the trap of your third leg. You think it's easy to resist sexual temptations.
Sex remains the most potent tool in devil's arsenal to finish a man. It takes the grace of God to escape.
To the 2 lecturers , it's obviously too late now. The horse has bolted, closing the stable door is of no use.
Wasted career, avalanche of disgrace brought on themselves and their families. I hope young men learn from this and control the insatiable appetite for sex.
There is something better than sex, it's called PEACE.

ClassicMG:
In as much as I don't support extra judicial killing. I think the political leaders of benue are not been sincere with the whole thing.. he probably might be their machinery, going by how they are sympathetic to someone who according to them has killed so many people

You are uncivilized

There is constructive and destructive criticism. What Freeze is doing is destructive. He is obviously bitter that the church is doing exploits.
And you cannot rise by pulling the entire Nigerian church down.
Freeze needs a lesson on how to mind his own business.
The church will certainly outlive him
Tithing will outlive him
Can you imagine him referring to Baba Oyedepo as " that bald man at Ota"
He is rude, uncultured, mannerless, bitter and he won't last . I dare him to insult Pastors again.
Imagine someone who has never led a 5 member church opening his mouth to insult champions and giants of faith who grew their ministries from point 0 to where it is today.
If only he knew what it entails to start and grow a ministry he would have repented long ago .

Be that as it may, no one is perfect, we all need some adjustments here and there. In that case, respect their feats and constructively criticize them.

Fash20:
they were all bastards. From yakubu to Abacha

Lol, come on, one of them could have been your Dad. These men were the most successful military officers in their time and they got to the pinnacle of the careers which was a good thing. Calm down bro, I'm sure one of them caught your fancy.

sacajawea:
Hands down it gotta be Mr SACAJAWEA's DICK!
great guy, really great guy

Who is Mr Sacajawea?

Of Nigeria's former military head of states, the likes of General Obasanjo, Buhari, IBB, Abacha , Abdulsalam . Who amongst them would you give a thumbs up to ? For reasons such as style of governance, policies, composure, kindness, brutality, looks ,dress sense and many more. Post Millennials, if you can't relate , it's ok, just pass.
Personally, I'm down with General Abdulsalam Abubakar, love his white beard, straight look and the fact that he kept to his promise to handover to politicians in 1999.

chiommy123:
so we should continue in sin that grace may abound?

These guys are just amazing, I don't know what church they attend, who mentors them. This is why Christianity has been almost reduced to a powerless, non effective religion. Apostle Paul warned against such people with doctrines of devils ages ago.

I encourage them to read the epistle of Paul to the Romans and show me where Paul condoned sin.
Paul said "he brings his body under subjection so after he has witnessed to others he won't be a cast away"


1 Timothy 4:1-2
[1]Now the Spirit speaketh expressly, that in the latter times some shall depart from the faith, giving heed to seducing spirits, and doctrines of devils;
[2]Speaking lies in hypocrisy; having their conscience seared religion

paxonel:
what does it mean to backslide?
It means going back to continue with the sin one has repented of.
That has nothing to do with this scripture you quoted
very wrong conclusion!
Lot's wife and Sodom and Gomorrah were of the old covenant while salvation of the new covenant, so your argument does not follow.
your analogy here though is right in reality but has nothing to do with salvation
the question you should ask yourself is, was there salvation at the time Jesus made this statement?
The answer is no!
Why?
Because Jesus has not yet been crucified.

So, you are totally wrong!
are the many Jesus was talking about here believers(saved people)?
The answer is no!
Why?
Because Jesus has not yet been crucified.
So, this statement does not apply to believers of today
oga,correct yourself!
You are not saved because you do not commit sin, you are saved because of grace

I won't go back and forth on the scriptures I already espoused.


Your attempt to twist the truth cannot change the credibility of the truth

However, I put the scriptures below to you



Hebrews 6:4-6
[4]For it is impossible for those who were once enlightened, and have tasted of the heavenly gift, and were made partakers of the Holy Ghost,
[5]And have tasted the good word of God, and the powers of the world to come,
[6]If they shall fall away, to renew them again unto repentance; seeing they crucify to themselves the Son of God afresh, and put him to an open shame.


I also know you will attempt to manipulate it, go ahead, give it your best shot

alBHAGDADI:
This is a big lie. If you are saved and you die fornicating, you will go to heaven. Dying ontop of a woman not your wife is enough punishment for your sins. You won't go to hell because Jesus has paid for your sins to save you from it. Read my previous post.

It is rather sad what false teachings have done to you. This is disgusting, erroneous, abominable, unthinkable.

And I assume Heb. 12:14 is not in your Bible

paxonel:
people like you don't read between lines to understand the context, you just conclude from your emotions

Can you please do us the honor of presenting the textual exegesis.

chiommy123:
so if someone that calls himself a Christian continues lying, fornicating, fighting, etc and dies therein the person is still saved ba?

The word "holiness" is probably strange to them

Heb12:14
"Follow peace with all men and holiness without which no man shall see the Lord"

The careless ,lazy and sin-filled brand of Christianity is what their itching ears long to hear from their end time false teachers.

It is unfortunate today that this young generation of Christians have been misled into error.
Our fathers of faith lived a life worthy of emulation and that is why the church in Nigeria is strong today. The principles and tenets of the Apostolic faith were adherred to.
However, with the proliferation of modern day teachings and user friendly brand of Christianity that absolves one of every responsible, there is fire on the mountain.

I gathered these self explanatory scriptures to help someone that if you don't hold on to what you have, you can lose it.
As usual, they will call it misinterpretation of scriptures, but I pray you will be humble enough to see God's word for what it is.

2 Timothy 2:18
[18]Who concerning the truth have erred, saying that the resurrection is past already; and overthrow the faith of some

Meaning: Some people's faith was overthrown.

1 Timothy 4:1-2
[1]Now the Spirit speaketh expressly, that in the latter times some shall depart from the faith, giving heed to seducing spirits, and doctrines of devils;
[2]Speaking lies in hypocrisy; having their conscience seared


Note: Some shall depart from the faith


1 Timothy 1:19-20
[19]Holding faith, and a good conscience; which some having put away concerning faith have made shipwreck:

So, faith can shipwreck?



Hebrews 6:4-6
[4]For it is impossible for those who were once enlightened, and have tasted of the heavenly gift, and were made partakers of the Holy Ghost,
[5]And have tasted the good word of God, and the powers of the world to come,
[6]If they shall fall away, to renew them again unto repentance; seeing they crucify to themselves the Son of God afresh, and put him to an open shame.

If you can't see the truth in this scripture, no one will show you.

Happy Sunday