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In terms of tourism, we make money than kenya, we employ more people in our tourism sector than any other african countries.

gallivant:
From which tourism though?

its just the fact mate.

NIGERIA: $2,611,000

KENYA: $1,564,000

https://www.indexmundi.com/facts/indicators/ST.INT.RCPT.CD/map/africa

Abohboy:
Exactly places in Nigeria are under popularized and under pictured, the beaches in ondo and edo state are amazing as well as in ibeju Lekki and badagry we need more photographers, if the government got its tourism campaign right then Nigeria would be getting similar revenue to South Africa, Kenya and Tanzania at its beaches, mountains, forests, Savanna etc.

Actually, Nigeria get more tourism revenue than Kenya.

68816419:
world best : Dangote Refinery Video


https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=qJumXsttjQQ&feature=emb_title

Heaviest road transportation ever done in Africa

Abohboy:
When we tell the Kenyans that they are puppies in Africa. They dint believe us, my friend Nigeria is slowly buying up anything that is of value in Kenya, be it fashion, sports, technology, a Nigerian will be there.

KPL to be renamed BetKing Premier League

https://www.google.com/amp/s/www.barrons.com/amp/news/nigeria-s-betking-in-11-million-sponsorship-deal-with-kenya-league-01594903506

Nigeria

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Lagos

jln115:
- your bro posted about how badly Kenya were doing wrt GHI... I simply reminded him that Nigeria is doing even worse..... You then decided to chip in stating Nigeria was at war...

- source?

- The SADF together with Umkhonto sizwe, and the defence forces of all the homelands were incorporated into what we know today as the SANDF... So yes the SADF=SANDF

- they achieved all there objectives, there was no reason to stay, and our equipment totalled less than $300 000 and were to be donated to FACA anyway.

---Exactly.

---No they were not. you disbanded your best asymmetric warfare unit's...like the buffalo(the best unit in your AF), SWAPOL-koevoet....your most experienced commanders were purged(because they were white). SANDF is simply a shell of what SADF was.

---No they didn't. if the attack hadn't happen you wouldn't have withdrawn.

jln115:
_ I didn't make any notion simply stated Nigeria ranked below Kenya...........yet Nigeria rank even lower, those that live in glass houses shouldn't throw stones kinda thing

- When did Rwanda stop funding the M23

- SANDF doctrine is SADF doctrine mate .............

- Our troops withdraw-ed they did not run, and they already fulfilled both their operations namely Morero and Vimbezela...........our troops simply defended themselves against a Seleka attack, which they successfully repelled and Seleka raised the white flag......It was never their mandate to actively engage Seleka exactly why the French troops also didn't engage Seleka rebels,,,,,,,,,,,And equipment left behind totaled less than $300 000 dollars and were to be gifted to FACA anyways

----That wasn't my argument with you.

---2013..when it was obvious kagame was just interested in the mines in eastern congo , and his hutu-tutsi pretext was not holding up again.

---No it isn't. SADF is not SANDF.

---lol no...they ran back to pretoria..if it was a planned withdrawal, equipment would not have been abadoned.

jln115:
- if it makes you sleep at night then ok .... Fact remains in 2020 you are behind Kenya wrt GHI.... So I would be laughing at Kenya when my own country is ranked even lower

- you are 100% attack helicopter were present since the beginning however it wasn't until the Rooivalk replaced the Mi24 that the tide started to change in favour of the FIB.... Refer to video

- yes alot of them were ex SANDF as well and the rest are actually milcomps specifically developed to memic real life battlefield scenarios.

- We did not run mate if we did then why did Seleka raise the white flag and ask for a cease fire?.... The fact of the matter is we had several 100 reinforcements on the way as well as several gripen stationed in Zambia ready to wipe Seleka clean of the face of the earth... However it was neither the SANDFs mandate or mission to engage Seleka.... They were simply there to train CAR troops and protect the president.... Both missions were successful

-https://mobile.reuters.com/article/amp/idUSKBN0LA2J120150206


https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=tNOwCBZp6bs

—-It’s not about me sleeping ok at night. It’s about correcting a wrong notion

—-The tide started to change because Rwanda stop backing and supplying them. It’s not because of anything SA did. You were part of a UN force.Your rooivalk performed better because your pilot had superior training.

——-Like I said they are mercenaries.Their foundation members and their doctrine is SADF not SANDF. You didn’t just lose the name when you “reformed “ your army.

——like I said I’m more interested in what happened after the fight. I’m not arguing about your conduct during the fight...your men fought bravely ...everyone attested to that even the seleka’s. But your troops basically ran back to SA..they didn’t even pack their equipment from the base.

forgiveness:
The bolded caught me laughing. You mean the almighty SADF jakpa!? Bhuhahahaha!

Mofos... they didn’t even stop to pack and retrieve most of their equipment in the base..the seleka rebels were joyriding in their vehicles the following day to the amusement of news reporters in the country.

They literally ran to the French controlled airport..boarded their plane and flew a nonstop flight to Pretoria

68816419:
RVP SAID "we have moved over 10 millions people out of poverty in the last decade" Kenyans and lies

Rvp is a pathological liar

jln115:
- you were still doing sh1t mate .... Above Kenya maybe but still sh1t .

- Defeated by the SA led FIB and mostly down to the Rooivalk being so much better than the mi24 as well

- They are the same thing... Most of the member in Sttep also served in the SANDF...... Also if that isn't enough the SANDF has won the CIOR milcomp twice in 4 years against mostly NATO competition..... The SANDF has also never placed lower than 3rd in any international combat rifle competition ever!! And lastly a sing SAN sub sank an entire NATO fleet during an exercise.

- Our mission in CAR was to train CAR troops and protect the president.... We accomplished both, there was no need to stay in CAR

- sorry not an NGO but the CIA

——I’ve been vindicated ....that was the purpose of the entire argument.

——M23 were not defeated because of a couple of attack helicopters. AH have been present from the start of the rebellion.And they were not really defeated in the sense you’re implying they signed a peace agreement and were integrated back into the national army.... And that was largely due to them losing their main backers which is Rwanda.

——No they aren’t...they all came from SADF. The rest is rambling, shooting at stationary target is not the same as fighting an insurgency.

——No you ran away after you had a brief altercation with seleka and lost 13 men.you literally ran to the airport with the French and Chadians laughing at you. you weren’t planning to withdraw before the fight.

——Proof it.

jln115:
- Nigeria had a horrible GHI rating before the Boko Haram insurgency so what's your point?

- We contributed the most men, the most equipment and its widely excepted that our Gunships were the driving force to defeating the M23 since the were much better than the Mi24 used by the Ukrainians...........the FIB is also currently under the command of Brigadier General Patrick Dube

- South African mercenaries come from the SADF/SANDF mate ...........you think they trained themselves?

- Yes we all know what happened with Seleka........200 South African soldiers fighting 3000 Seleka rebels, to the point that Seleka raised the white flag and asked for a cease fire ..........also 13 dead vs over 800 dead rebels

- Boko Haram has around 6000 members according to NGOs........that's the facts we have on hand and that's what im using

—- No we don’t...as at 2009 just before the start of the insurgency we were doing tremendously okay. We were above Kenya with a 1.8 margin lead.thats the fact.

***check the graph below**

——I don’t really give a Bleep how many men you contributed....if you didn’t another country will it’s as simple as that.M23 were defeated by the combine effort of the DRC, UN and the facts that Rwanda withdrew its support from the rebel group.

——The SADF not the SANDF.....they are not the same thing.

——It’s not what happen during the fight(you did well anyway) that concerns me, it’s what happened after the fight(You ran back to South Africa )..that’s a long retreat.

—- which of the NGO??...I gave you a facts from amnesty international which puts their number at 25k.

jln115:
- You were the one that brought up the whole Boko Haram argument not me.

- Kenya is also battling a terrorist group that has also displaced millions...ever heard of al Shabab?

- Not a Fallacy is a Fact mate!......google is your friend

- South African mercenaries

- True!! won't argue!! South Africa is arguably one of the best and most experienced at COIN warfare in the world.....hence hiring South African mercenaries was a great decision

- Most estimates I've read put it at around 6000

—To justify one of the reason why we are low on GHI score—which is the main argument.

**Estimated 3m internally displaced person in the northeast.


—Foreign refugees in IDP camp’s are not included in GHI metrics.

—I don’t need google to tell me what I know.. which is you didn’t lead the victory against M23..you were a participant.

—Not the SANDF......just the mercenaries(STTEP)
** we all know what happen when you face the Seleka rebels in CAR.

—-Most estimates you’ve seen then are wrong...those involved in the action on the ground disagree with you.

vankelvin:
Even after showing you other pictures of that beach you are here talking gibberish?

This is the 5th time I have caught you guys ''on stolen pictures''.
Check the density of coconut trees at Tropicana beach and compare to that picture.
Are you guys that desperate? that you even claim stolen pictures as yours?

Compare the difference

Pic1 —-the original beach

Pic 2—-your Ghanaian beach.

Pic 3—the Nigeria beach(same beach with the original)

jln115:
Estimate sizes of Boko haram is 5500-6000 not 25000.

Secondly m23 had T55 tanks, Ratel IFVs, hundreds of 23mm technicals, actual uniforms and military barracks ect ect they were the biggest and best equipped rebel group in Africa before being eradicated by The SA led UN FIB.

Boko Haram is just another Rebel group..... Just because your defense force is incapable of defeating them doesn't make BH this almighty powerful terrorist group.... It just means you army is inept at coin warefare hence they hired South African mercenaries to train them and fight BH.

You’re going completely off course , stop trying to deviate from the original discussion.

The argument was about Nigeria and Kenya GHI, not about the competency of the Nigeria military or its performance in northeast.

Kenya has only a marginal lead of 2.5 which is not really significant over a country battling an international terrorist group that has displaced millions of people and was declared as the word deadliest terrorist group on the planet.

I don’t give ratfuck about your fallacy that “an SA led UN defeated the M23.

And I don’t know, using mercenaries in war is nothing new.

The USA used them in Vietnam, Iraq, Afghanistan and the russians are also using mercenaries in Syria.

That the Nigerian military hired one of the best mercenaries group in Africa and probably one of the best in CT OP in the world is nothing to be ashamed of.

And no Boko Haram size is not 6k, even AI estimated their size at 20k and that was a conservative estimation.

jln115:
They are only deadly because your army allows them to be in actual fact, Boko Haram isn't even the best equipped rebel force in Africa.......Rebel Groups like the M23 made Boko Haram look like childs play

If you’re given a choice to live under an M23 occupation or Boko Haram which would you choose?

That’s the problem...you keep referring to BH as rebels..they are not.

How can you compare BH and M23?M23 had countries supporting them..no country in this world will admit to supporting a terrorist group like Boko Haram not even a pariah state like NK.


2.5 million people have been displaced by Boko Haram...that number is the population of some countries.

The difference is in the scale.. at the end of the day M23 were rebel group..people were still allowed to continue living their life under their occupation, humanitarian agencies still come and go.

You Don’t have that in the northeast.

M23 at its highest capacity had close to 6k rebels.

Estimate put the number of BH just below 25k

jln115:
You are fighting a rag tag rebel group of a couple thousand......

No, we are fighting the deadliest terrorist group the world has ever seen.

jln115:
You do realize Nigeria ranked below Kenya in the Global hunger index right?........................

A 2.5 difference?

You do realize Nigeria is a country at war right?

Nigeria


Beautiful country

Nigeria

Nigeria

Lagos

Lagos

The city

Lagos

La Tropicana

Lagos

Nigeria

vankelvin:
Yes of cos,
That coconuts plantation is a very long stretch along the sea, the town is called Bankata.
Their major occupation is farming(coconut farming)

This pictures you just posted, is the latest joint (resort) there now. NOTE: there are many resorts there but this particular resort is new.
And I have pictures of it.

Then post it..and put the matter to rest

vankelvin:
Called Maaha Beach..lol

Na....it’s not...Maaha beach has a closer coastline.

I just went through their entire Instagram post..that picture is not there.


Maaha beach

vankelvin:
Read it well.

You don't like reading so how will you see nigeria in there?

Lol...since when did a known unhinged individual post on nairaland become facts??

Togo is a country right next to your border.....so if you ask me and since voodoo is a known practice in all of Africa....your citizens are probably responsible for that shit

vankelvin:
Look at how dense those coconut-trees branches look like.
Then compare it to this picture you posted here? do they look the same?



I don't need to search for pictures anywhere, I have other pictures of that place already?

Lol... Don’t work yourself so hard bro.

The picture is legit.....if you feel it’s otherwise then you simply provide proof and I’ll accept it.

All this stuff you’re writing are just an epistle that no one cares about

Hate no go give some people hypertension for this thread oo.

Since when did Togo become Nigeria??

Have suffersmilling finally lost his eyesight

BeforeJuly:
what is this boy saying?

Lol...I’m not sure he understood.

He has spent hours trying to google search the image..but he’s coming up empty.