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FriendChoice:
Al-Taqiyya is the second name of Shi'a religion, so am not bothered with your post. BTW I taught you said, you're Shi'a and not IMN. So what's your business in this.

Taqiyyah is Islamic and found in the Quran. It is used to protect and save lives and properties, not to be used in inconsequential discussion with an ignoramus who neither knows Islam nor the Quran.

If you have trouble with the IMN, solve your issues with IMN. But when you make your stupid claims against the Shia as a whole, then you are fighting over half a billion people around the world and their faith; and there is no way you can win that war. You are the one who keep referring to the IMN blindly and blankly as "Shiites". Shiites include many in Nigeria and around the world who do not belong to the IMN or even any group or organization that is man made.

You should feel ashamed that with all your false claims, the Shia continue to claim converts in the country in the millions. If your faith was the "pure Islam" you claim and want the world to believe, people will not leave it in the millions for Shia Islam. And you will have no need to resort to violence and terrorism to suppress a rival faith. Everywhere in the world Wahhabi suicide bombers target Shia Muslim worshipers and civilians. Why? Why haven't you seen a Shia suicide bomber targeting a Sunni mosque ever? You see the difference? When you hear the claim that "Islam is peace", it is our own Islam that is peace. Not your religion of Saqifa and violence.

FriendChoice:
That is what you get when you made it article of faith to Curse and Insult the prophet, his wives, his companions. This is what you get when you claim Qur'an was not authentic. This is what you get when you said the prophethood is for Ali (R.D) and not Muhammad (SAW).
This is what you get when you disobey Burutai and law of the land.

If you have no fear of Allah when taking the lives of Muslims, how can you have the fear of Allah to lie against other Muslims?

EXCLUSIVE: Nigerian Police plot to tackle Shiites in Borno

The police in Borno State are mobilizing for a planned rally by Shiites, sources have told PREMIUM TIMES.

A source said the police received a special intelligence report that the protest would kick-start shortly after the Friday Jumat prayer.

The protest is expected to start at two main mosques – the Mai Saje Mosque, a popular Friday mosque, centrally located in the heart of Maiduguri, and Fodiya Centre, near a spot called Yan Nono in Bulumkutu along the Kano-Maiduguri highway.

“The aim of the protest is to show their anger over the detention of their national leader and the recent clash with the police in Kano,” a police intelligence report reviewed by PREMIUM TIMES showed.

It is not clear if the police plan to forcefully stop the protest as was done to similar Shiite marches in Abuja and Kano, but the Borno State Commissioner of Police, Damian Chukwu, according to a source, directed several units including the police mobile force and the counter terrorist unit to deploy their men to various Friday mosques within Maiduguri and other liberated communities across the state for “decisive actions to any untoward development”.

PREMIUM TIMES further learnt that the police is not taking any chance in ensuring that the proposed Shia protest does not escalate the already tense situation in the state. Mr. Chukwu had to cancel the weekly briefing with his officers as the police prepared for the Shiite protest.

Officials at the police headquarters have reported that canisters of tear gas were released at about 10.30 a.m. on Friday to be possibly used against the protesters.

Unlike several states in the northern Nigeria, Shia processions have been very rare in Borno.

The Shiites are demanding the release of their leader, Ibrahim El-Zakzaky, who has been held without trial since last December after over 300 of his followers were killed by soldiers. The army accused the Shiites of blocking a major road and plotting to kill the army chief, Tukur Buratai, an allegation the Shiites denied.

Another rally by the Shiites on Monday in Kano led to the death of at least 9 people including a police official as the police tried to stop the protesters.

Local and international rights groups and foreign countries have called on the Nigerian government to exercise caution in dealing with the Shiites.

The U.S. government on Friday issued a statement calling for “greater communication between Shia citizens and government authorities.”

Source: https://www.google.com/amp/www.premiumtimesng.com/news/headlines/215691-exclusive-nigerian-police-plot-tackle-shiites-borno.html/amp?client=safari

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=nkonv6nQmrE

Alhamdulillah.

salam mods,

please unhide my pose in the below thread:

https://www.nairaland.com/211753/sufism-islam-share-opinions-us/1#up

dear mod,

please restore the below thread on the Christian terrorist attack against a mosque in the UK.thanks.

https://www.nairaland.com/1357801/tipton-mosque-blast-terrorist-attack

Salam,

please either of the moderators should restore my thread:

https://www.nairaland.com/1334858/shia-islamic-sheikh-hassan-shehata

thanks.

BetaThings: This is a typical Shia strategy to divide Sunnis. You had better not fall for it. Shias hate all sunnis alike unless you believe Umar and Abu Bakr (RAA) are not sunnis

that poster ( "shawl" ) is obviously not a Shia.you're so obsessed about the "Shia monster".such phobia is not healthy.let me give you examples of Sunni scholars opposed to Sunni salafists:


https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=W5bRzDRzBEY&feature=player_embedded


https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Eb3Mzz4QF1U&feature=player_embedded


https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=QZ_7BTA6MxM

BetaThings: See deep-seated hatred!!!!
To the Shia, only one event deserves to be remembered - the tragedy of Karbala. All the muslims killed during the time of the Prophet (PBUH) are not even mentioned. That is actually the foundation of extremism

You Shias need serious dua!

you have psychological problems,and you do not only need dua but also psycho-therapy.

see the way you've twisted his words.when Iran sent help to Bosnia (and also does to the Palestinians),Shia Iran never saw them as Sunnis or Shia,but just as oppressed people and muslims.

he is not against remembering muslims who are killed or died.he is against your very Sunni attitude of remembering every dead,except the tragedy of Karbala,as if it never happened.that is the point.the defect is from your side.

and you can see it summarized in the below video by a furious and disappointed Sunni cleric lecturing your types:


https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=AIbqCPOwCaI

Blasts kill 21 in Shiite areas of Baghdad

By Ammar Karim and Ahmed al-Rubaye

(AFP) – 14 minutes ago 

BAGHDAD — A series of bombings mainly targeting Shiite areas of Baghdad killed at least 21 people on Sunday, officials said, in the latest violence to hit Iraq as it struggles with protests and a political crisis.

Three car bombs struck the sprawling Sadr City slum in the north of the city, car bombs exploded in Ameen, Al-Husseiniyah and Kamaliyah in the east, and a roadside bomb blew up in Karrada in central Baghdad, security and medics said.

Another roadside device went off in Saidiyah in the capital's south.
At least 21 people were killed and more than 120 were wounded in the attacks, the officials said.
Residents of Sadr City were enraged by the bombings, and hospitals in the area were quickly crowded with people searching for relatives, an AFP journalist reported.
"What did we do? We're always the victims of conflicts between politicians," one woman shouted.
Ali Kadhim, who owns a shop near the site of one blast, agreed, saying: "They always threaten each other, and it's us who die. The people are always the victims."

And Hussein Mohammed, who was wounded and whose car was destroyed by one explosion, questioned how the bomb could have got past security forces into the area.
"I spent about two hours to enter Sadr City, so how could this car bomb enter?" he asked, his clothes smeared with blood and dirt. "Where is the security?"

The carnage could have been even worse -- the AFP journalist saw soldiers apparently working to defuse another car bomb in the area.

Heavy security measures were put in place after the Sadr City attacks, with some areas closed off.
Security forces also searched cars at the main entrance to Sadr City and helicopters overflew the area, another AFP journalist said.

Sunday's attacks bring the number of people killed in violence this month to at least 156, according to an AFP tally based on reports from security and medical officials nationwide.

No group has yet claimed responsibility for the latest wave of attacks.

But Sunni militants linked to the Al-Qaeda franchise in Iraq often target the Shiite majority in a bid to erode confidence in the central government and push the country back towards the bloody sectarian conflict of 2006-2007.

The Baghdad bombings follow multiple attacks on Saturday that killed five people, including the head of Iraq's intelligence academy.

Two suicide bombers killed Brigadier General Aouni Ali and two of his guards, and more bombings resulted in the deaths of a judge and an army lieutenant.

Members of the security forces and judicial officials are also often targeted by militants in Iraq.
The latest violence comes as after nearly two months of anti-government protests centred on Sunni-majority areas in north and west Iraq, calling for the ouster of Iraqi Prime Minister Nuri al-Maliki, a Shiite, and amid a festering political crisis.
The demonstrations were initially sparked in December by the arrest of several guards of Finance Minister Rafa al-Essawi, a leading Sunni.

The longest-running protests have blocked a key trade route linking Baghdad to both Jordan and Syria.
As the demonstrations have since expanded markedly, the government has sought to curtail them by saying it has released thousands of detainees and raised the salaries of Sunni militiamen battling Al-Qaeda extremists.

It has also restricted movements in major cities on Fridays, when the largest protests are staged.
Maliki, meanwhile, has been tussling with a political crisis that has pitted him against many of his government partners barely two months before provincial elections, the country's first since March 2010 parliamentary polls.

Copyright © 2013 AFP. All rights reserved.

http://www.google.com/hostednews/afp/article/ALeqM5g2dod61yi-E-yGfd30_ePYE73IJw?docId=CNG.2f1ed21039f22de584b6978b4af4c1fb.11

[size=14pt]BBC Documentary: "Ayatollah Khomeini-The Man Who Changed the World"[/size]


https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=SNGEnhfAcEc

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=sDkTPx9bJvk

Nigermaurice: not the bible though, which alone must be considered according to our faith. Most Christians don't regard apocrypha, which until recently was completely disregarded and much of which was written after the bible's completion. Peace

it is perfectly understod how the bible was compiled.we are aware about the gradual process of how the bible was compiled.it was over centuries that men decided what they should regard as the word of God and include into the bible,and what to reject and exclude and thereby tag "apocrypha".they even used voting to decide on the fate of which book to include and which to exclude.however that is still not the point.

the age of Mary (as) is not found in the bible.the bible have nothing to tell us about how old Mary (as) was.so the "apocrypha" we have is good enough to pass as an historical christian document from the earliest days of christianity.also,even if we are to agree for argument sake that the apocrypha is outright forgery entirely,for someone christian to have deem it acceptable to forge this document,and in it claim Mary (as) was 12-14 year old and Joseph was 90 year old,goes to show there was nothing wrong then in their view with such union.and we are talking here about Mary (as),the so called "mother of god" to christians.

jaymichael: Islam allows it. I think some say mohammed married a 9 year old girl.

you are dead wrong about that age! check the below thread.

Tell me why Mohammed married a young Aisha?
https://www.nairaland.com/846958/tell-me-why-mohammed-married

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=2o6sjyuoSUc&NR=1



https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=WaWsDhOqpkY

"Is Karbala for Shias Only, Or For All Of Humanity?" - Dr. Sayed Khalil Tabatabai - Muharram 1434


https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=uC3tx3jHZ0A

"'Good Friday' Crucifixions in the Philippines and Mexico by Christians Re-Enacting the Alleged 'Crucifixion' of Jesus (as)"

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Blasphemy:

“It is you who pretend to be a prophet from Allah.”
Ihya Ulum-id-din [Arabic], Volume 2 page 43


The below analysis is from answering-ansar.org:

We appeal to justice, is such an outburst conduct becoming of the best wife of the Prophet (s)? If it is not bad enough that she refuses to refer to her husband as the Prophet of Allah (swt) when angry, on this occasion she commits open kufr against him. We would urge our readers to dispassionately look at this reference. Whilst we are not in any way suggesting that spousal disharmony can never occur in the marital home, both partners will always ensure that whatever they say remains within boundaries to ensure that matters do not get to a more serious level, as such they will always have the feelings of their spouse in mind, knowing that there is a limit to what they can say, no matter how angry they get. Boundaries governing such disputes are very much linked to general rules of decorum, the entire landscape changes when the spouse is Rasulullah (s). The wives of the Prophet (s) cannot simply view him (s) as an ordinary husband, that can thus entitle them to vent anger and frustration towards him from time to time, he is at all times their Prophet (s) and as such the right he has over them and the respect that they must afford him is due to his being the select Prophet of Allah (swt). Whilst rowing with one’s husband might breach rules of decorum, such conduct is not regulated by the Shariah per se, the same cannot be said of a spouse rowing with Rasulullah (s), her actions will always be adjudged against her duties (as a believer) towards the Prophet (s) as stipulated in the Quran. Any conduct that falls below the duties placed on the believer will be a gross sin in the eyes of Allah (swt), and would breach the plethora of verses that regulate the manner in which the believers interact with the Prophet (s). Allah (swt) says in Surah Hujurath ‘O you who believe do not raise your voices in front of the Prophet” – this is a duty imposed on the believer, does it not apply to the Mother of the Believers? Speaking loudly risks all deeds of the believer being quashed, how can one judge a wife whose anger plunges her to such depths that she refuses to refer to him as the Prophet (s) and worse, on one occasion labels him a charlatan Prophet (s)? Is such blatant kufr conduct becoming of a woman that Ansar.Org insist was the most superior wife of the Prophet (s)? We see no evidence of any other wife conducting herself in such an atrocious manner, so how can she be deemed as the most superior wife of the Prophet (s)?

Clearly Ayesha’s manners as demonstrated from the above examples fell far below the standards that Allah (swt) and his Prophet (s) would expect, after all he (s) stated:

Narrated ‘Abdullah bin ‘Amr: “The Prophet never used bad language neither a ‘Fahish nor a Mutafahish. He used to say ‘The best amongst you are those who have the best manners and character.’
Sahih Bukhari, Virtues and Merits of the Prophet (peace be upon him) and his Companions, Volume 4, Book 56, Number 759

Sadly despite so many years sitting in the company of the Prophet (s), Ayesha was unable to control her tongue. One such example can be found in Sahih Bukhari Volume 8, Book 73, Number 57:

Narrated ‘Abdullah bin Mulaika:
‘Aisha said that the Jews came to the Prophet and said, “As-Samu ‘Alaikum” (death be on you). ‘Aisha said (to them), “(Death) be on you, and may Allah curse you and shower His wrath upon you!” The Prophet said, “Be calm, O ‘Aisha ! You should be kind and lenient, and beware of harshness and Fuhsh (i.e. bad words).” She said (to the Prophet), “Haven’t you heard what they (Jews) have said?” He said, “Haven’t you heard what I have said (to them)? I said the same to them, and my invocation against them will be accepted while theirs against me will be rejected (by Allah). ”

Rasulullah (s) disliked the use of bad words towards his enemies, which is why he rebuked Ayesha, but as we shall evidence in a later chapter, she could not even control her tongue when remonstrating with another mother of the believers!

Paris-Love:
I was expecting to read the reason, none came forth. Did Fatima(as) and Imam Ali(as) had such clause? Did they sign such contract?

Honestly I'm not sure.but regardless I drew that into our discussion to prove there's nothing wrong with monogamy in Islam.the reason why the rumour of marriage to abu jahl's daughter caused an uproar was because of who/what abu jahl was.I hope you won't ask me the same question again because it appears the reasons are no longer good for you and you're digging for what isn't.

What was the real reason? Really? You forgot some of Muhammad's marriage took place on battle grounds e.g Safiyah. Pls tell me what's there to reconcile between safiyah's clan and the muslims when the abley bodied men where killed and women and children taken into slavery. And according to the hadiths it was jealousy that entered Fatima. Please prove other wise.

You tend to firstly forget you're discussing and reading meaning into what is established to have been a false rumor.Imam Ali (as) did nothing that really angered his first and only wife during her lifetime.if she was jealous and its normal for women to have such feelings for their husbands,even aisha was among the wives of the Prophet (sa).also what really made the rumor wicked was that the husband of Prophet Muhammad's (sa) daughter was going to marry abu jahl's daughter.now that will cause in Sayyida Fatima (as) more than jealousy.

Safiyya (ra) was jewish.her marriage and reasons behind it were entirely different.she was the daughter of the chief of the banu nadhir tribe.her marriage to the Prophet (sa) which she consented to,maintained her elevated status.she was also a captive of war or what many would wrongly refer to as "slave" and the Prophet (sa) married her.

Like really? How can a poor orphan husband marry a 2nd wife when he has a rich powerful wife? I think we know who wore pants in that relationship. Enough with the lame excuses that the Prophet had to marry due to political reasons
and not for sex, or he was forced to marry, simply wanted to
rescue widows etc. There are sahih Hadiths available today to prove clearly that Prophet Muhammad married many women for his personal lusts and had sëx daily with most of his wives who stayed with him.

I think what you refer to as "authentic" is lame.I wonder who would know when and how a married man in his house is having intimate relation with his wives.I've seen that hadith and its stupid just for its suggestion a man can have sex with 11 women at a stretch.that hadith is found as usual in the book of Sunnis they call "sahih" hadith.it was put there most likely by a wicked being to denigrate the Prophet (sa) by breaking the shield of decency/morality/shame and possibly to make a political statement to justify the ills of any of the corrupt sunni caliphs.nevertheless sex in islam is perfectly healthy and even encouraged for a man when done correctly.you can call that lust or whatever you please.his wives didn't complain.

Please Mac unhide my above post and unban me.spam-bot hid it.thanks.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=w5MHnsvXQ6A

BetaThings: Thanks for reminding me that name calling is one of the attributes of the Shia

I really don't go out seeking trouble. Trust me on this
But I cannot stand anyone abusing Allah and His Prophet (PBUH)or teaching what is not true about Islam. I would not have crossed paths with you originally if you had not challenged my view on Ashura. If you had said that is the belief of Shias, I would have kept quiet
Fact is that a lot of muslims don't know about Shias. They just know that there are muslims. I indeed have a lot of books about Imamate which I bought when I knew nothing about Shia Islam

Nobody can contest that you make a lot of efforts, some very brilliant, I must concede. But I sincerely believe your efforts are not in the right direction. So it is inevitable that we would continue to be on the opposite sides at one time or the other. I feel sad about this. But it is inevitable.
I am saying all these because you said salam, especially as you have pronounced takfir on me in the past.
May Allah guide all of us to stand firmly on tawhid

a Shia Muslim cannot pass takfir on anyone if he is not a Marji-at-taqlid.it is not like Sunnis,when one can read the Quran he automatically becomes a "sheikh" and starts issuing fatwas and religious opinions.

talking about takfir,i think you're the one always calling others "mushrikeen" and accusing others of "shirk".may be you need to see where is attitude has led your the wahhabi/salafist brothers among the Sunnis to and what they are best at doing:

https://www.nairaland.com/961495/timeline-sectarian-terrorism-against-shia

maclatunji: ^Talk about drama. Well, I still don't see a ban on you and I can guarantee that I have not banned you today. You are free to do whatever you like.

It is a free world.

there is no problem.

but it doesn't change the fact that you tolerate your Sunni brothers especially the ones with fanatical wahhabi aka salafist ignorance to collectively rain insults and abuses on the term "Shia".

and whenever the word "wahhabi" aka "salafist" is mentioned,one can sense people shaking like fire is burning them from under.

i am here to preach,but it doesn't mean i should be subjected to oppression and persecution.

with such attitude one ought to wonder when would we start having wahhabi suicide bombers targeting Shia Muslims even in Nigeria,as we see often in other countries and also against Christians in Nigeria:

https://www.nairaland.com/961495/timeline-sectarian-terrorism-against-shia

this is an old topic.i would refer you to other threads shortly.in summary i would like to tell you that mut'a marriage has its own conditions and rules and is supported in the Holy Quran in 4:24.it was not made forbidden later on by the Prophet (sa) as Sunnis claim and there is evidence to prove that.it was Umar Ibn al-Khattab who prohibited it.also,the misdeeds of men in mut'a marriage should not be used as argument against mut'a because it is equally beneficially for both males and females in the right time and circumstances,and also even permanent marriage can be abused and therefore should not be seen as something bad.


https://www.nairaland.com/737027/im-now-contractual-muslim-sexy#8937675

https://www.nairaland.com/828391/mutah-pimps

https://www.nairaland.com/828259/mutah-pimps-quran

https://www.nairaland.com/828367/plea-muslim-sister

maclatunji: I didn't ban you LagosShia. I have checked your profile, I see no ban in effect too.

but i cannot log into my account.

i am contemplating leaving your forum Sir.and would do so at the appropriate time.

Maclatunji,I never knew you're such an hypocrite.why have my 'LagosShia' account being banned for no violation? Is this how much you fear free speech especially when I am presenting facts and nothing but truth.I presented a lecture by a scholar.deal with the message and not the messenger being Shia Muslim and not Sunni.you cannot defend your views by oppressing others and shutting them for no justified reason than expressing themselves.I have always knew you're camouflagging your fanaticism.

@BetaThing
Did you watch the video? I believe you did not.actually you should be grateful to me for presenting this lecture.it can help you cure the wahhabi cult sickness of trying to create phobia/paranoia by attributing shirk to everyone who disagree with you and accusing them of calling on others besides Allah (swt).you're the one committing sin here by accusing others of a great sin like shirk.and this isn't the first time you've done it.you should be banned for that.

@ Monkey
If not for the love of Allah and His Prophet Muhammad (sa),Imam Ali (as) is a nobody.it is the Prophet (sa) who said love for Ali (as) is imaan and hating him is nifaq.don't blame us for being obedient to Muhammad (sa).he is our master and prophet.you observed posts on Imam Ali (as) recently because I was trying to educate people on him since his martyrdom falls in the holy month of ramadan.

Furthermore it is those (Sunnis) who believe shaitan is scared of umar and would run,but cite instances shaitan would lay trap for the Prophet (sa) that you should direct your words at.

I presented a video in another thread BetaThing is copying in this thread.we Sunnis and Shia do have differences.no doubt.but we do not have to oppress one another.the wahhabis/salafis among sunnis weekly attack and massacre Shia Muslims in addition to christians around the world.and this is wrong and distorting the image of Islam.