₦airaland Forum

JAkpayen: Probably many of you would have been asleep when a new moon appeared almost at midnight yesterday. I am saying this authoritatively.

anago9010: all those dolts opening there mouth to spew trash should save is there balderdash. sultan is the head of Muslims in Nigeria is opinion is finally. anyone not please should go and hug transform including the deranged habibulah al ilori.

PapTzy: Kudos to the Lagos state Government.
I doubt if Lagos will get someone like Governor B. R. Fashola in next year's election. His approach to governance and initiatives have been wonderful. It's just a pity that his dream of making Lagos a mega city could not be completed in 8 years.
God bless Fashola.
God bless Lagos state... Eko o ni baje oooo
and God Bless NIGERIA.

Sagamite: So you are telling me that the God of Islam rubber-stamped the raape of women back in the day and told Muhammed to get your jiggy on?

Kay17: The starting point was the Prophet never beheaded anyone, NOW you have managed to find the exceptions which you deceptively omitted.

What is the punishment for Apostasy?

And Adultery?

And blasphemy?

'And revile not those whom they call upon beside Allah, lest they, out of spite, revile Allah in their ignorance.… (Ch.6:V.109)'

Sagamite: But they are allowed to raape women they capture after killing off their men?

Before i start with my response to sham shamoun’s comments i first want to tell the reader that only non-muslim prisoners of war could become slaves in islam (therefore slavery was doomed to disappear with the expansion of Islam). It’s important to know that slaves in islam had the same right to respect and good treatment like any other human being.,I shall show and proof the reader that the raping of female slaves is forbidden in islam, rather islam gave men the permission to have sexual intercourse with their slave-girl and this did certainly not mean that muslim men could rape their female slaves (female prisoners of war ) , since Allah swt and the prophet (saw) command muslim men to treat their slave girls well and with respect and dignity. The next quotations from the authentic hadith proof that the raping of female slaves is forbidden in islam:


Related by Al-Daraqutni, Ibn Majah and Ahmad:

“The Prophet said, “There shall be no infliction of harm on oneself or others".

‘Others’ includes all people, so also slavegirls ! Raping a slavegirl is clearly doing her harm (emotional and physical) which would be a big sin for a muslim to commit and violation of the above hadith. Moreover the prophet (peace be upon him) commanded muslims to treat their slaves well and with respect, which clearly proofs that rape of female slaves is forbidden in islam. The prophet (peace be upon him) said:


Your servants and your slaves are your brothers. Anyone who has slaves should give them from what he eats and wears. He should not charge them with work beyond their capabilities. If you must set them to hard work, in any case I advise you to help them.

Source: Bukhari, Iman, 22; Adab, 44; Muslim, Iman, 38–40; Abu Dawud, Adab, 124

Ali reported that the last words of the Prophet, may Allah bless him and grant him peace, were: "The prayer! The prayer! Fear Allah concerning your slaves ! "

Source: Al-Adab al-Mufrad Al-Bukhari , Nr. 158.


· Jabir ibn 'Abdullah said, "The Prophet, may Allah bless him and grant him peace, advised that slaves should be well-treated. He said, 'Feed them from what you eat and clothe them from what you wear. Do not punish what Allah has created.' "

Source: Al-Adab al-Mufrad Al-Bukhari , Nr. 188.



· Sallam ibn 'Amr reported from one of the Companions of the Prophet, may Allah bless him and grant him peace, said, "Your slaves are your brothers, so treat him well. Ask for their help in what is too much for you and help them in what is too much for them."

Source: Al-Adab al-Mufrad Al-Bukhari , Nr. 190.



· Abu Hurayra reported that the Prophet, may Allah bless him and grant him peace, said, "The slave has his food and clothing. Do not burden a slave with work which he is incapable of doing."

Source: Al-Adab al-Mufrad Al-Bukhari , Nr. 192.



Not one of you should [ when introducing someone ] say ‘This is my slave’ , ‘This is my concubine’. He should call them ‘my daughter’ or ‘my son’ or ‘my brother’.

Source: Ibn Hanbal, Musnad, 2 ,4



For this reason ‘Umar and his servant took it in turns to ride on the camel from Madina to Jerusalem on their journey to take control of Masjid al-Aqsa. While he was the head of the state, ‘Uthman had his servant pull his own ears in front of the people since he had pulled his. Abu Dharr, applying the hadith literally, made his servant wear one half of his suit while he himself wore the other half. From these instances, it was being demonstrated to succeeding generations of Muslims, and a pattern of conduct established, that a slave is fully a human being, not different from other people in his need for respect and dignity and justice.

"The masters were obliged not to put slaves under hardship; slaves were not to be tortured, abused or treated unjustly. They could marry among “themselves with their master's permission - or with free men or women ! They could appear as witnesses and participate with free men in all “affairs. Many of them were appointed as governors, commanders of army and administrators. In the eyes of Islam, a pious slave has precedence over “an impious free man." Source: Al-Tabataba'i, Tafsir ( vol.16, pp. 338-358 )

Sagamite: I asked you a list of questions that are not answered.

I will ask it again:

So you are saying Muhammed did not rob caravans and people were killed during those robberies?

So you are saying Muhammed did not order the killing of unarmed people (poets) that spoke against him including an old lady?

So you are saying Muhammed did not order the torture of a Jew so he can tell him where the gold of the Jews were?

Sagamite: So you are saying Muhammed did not rob caravans and people were killed during those robberies?

So you are saying Muhammed did not order the killing of unarmed people (poets) that spoke against him including an old lady?

So you are saying Muhammed did not order the torture of a Jew so he can tell him where the gold of the Jews were?

Sagamite: No, tell me if Muhammed was not prolific at chopping heads off and did not tell Muslims that should be done.

Fulaman198: I think the beauty of freedom is that God/Allah/Geno/whatever you want to call the almighty gave us all the power of choice. I don't believe it is wrong to marry someone of a different religious background from you.

Humans are meant to come together not be segregated through religion, skin colour, ethnic group, and all that other nonsense. I know that some people are probably saying I sound hypocritical right now because I mainly only talk to African sisters and no other continent. That is what I call preference.

shymexx: Dayuum!!!

Interesting though.

So when next I'm heading to Lagos, I'll keep my kufi and kaftan/abaya handy!!

Alhamdulillah!!

Allah akbar to all my akhi's!

Sagamite: What absolute rubbish!

ABSOLUTE TOSH!

- You are comparing 1940s era war philosophy to the new millennia era war philosophy?
- You are comparing fighting by two state armies to an advanced army fighting a bunch of militia?
- You are comparing an era of crude weapons to the era of far smarter weapons?

This pathetic comparison really shows the bane of your mentality when it comes to your Islamophobia. All you do is take a faulty position due to this Islamophobia and then just try and look for any rubbish to support it without any kind of intellectual evaluation of the sense you make. Why not even justify it with the way the White Settlers slaughtered out the Red Indians?

Or, you know what? You might as well go back to the time of people named like Nebuchadnezzar or Hyrcanus to justify the killing of innocent people.

Maybe you would even think it is justified for Israel to shoot all young boys because afterall you remember there was once a king that killed all new born boys in a town to avoid a threat, so it is just a way to protect against the production of future Hamas fighters.

freecocoa, what did I tell you?

davidylan: I took a quick read of sagamite's facts and they are riddled with falsehoods. Quick example- he says the 1967 war was about helping Palestinian refugees win back their land...

Well for starters, he either doesn't know or didn't tell you that the west bank at that time had been Jordanian territory since 1949 and that the Palestinians there today actually held Jordanian citizenship.

Sagamite's also forgot to tell you that as at 1967, gaza was a territory of Egypt.

Sagamite also forgot to tell you that the term Palestinian actually referred to Jews as at 1948 and that the term did not become synonymous with Arabs until 1988.

Sagamite also forgot to tell you that as at 1964, the PLO proclaimed that it had none and was not seeking any rights to the West Bank and gaza.

He also forgot to tell you that the 1967 war was never about land but about the destruction of the Jews. There is plenty of media evidence to prove this.

And those are just some of the grossly negligent omissions, misrepresentation of facts and outright lies contained in his note that you think provided you information.

davidylan: Gaza has an Egyptian border, wanna guess why Egypt also has it firmly shut? Secondly, if you mean Israel should open the airspace and waterways so Iran can ship missiles in to target Israel then you got some thinking to do.

lastmessenger: U see that is why you are 25 and have refused to grow up.you cant make a point without abusing somebody.isrealis are not christains?i agree with u but the scripture also specified why they are not and went ahead to say that in the end all isreal will be saved.

tecmon: Oga Sixix,
U are the one that needs proper education here. U feed urself with lies from the hate and propaganda websites of anti-jewish ,antiChrist, and jihadist apologists.

WHO ARE THE ISRAELIS AND HOW DID THEY ACQUIRE THE TERRITORY CALLED STATE OF ISRAEL TODAY
WHO ARE THE PALESTINIANS WHEN DID THEY SHOW UP IN THIS TERRITORY THEY CLAIM IS THEIR OWN

We know that the territory of Israel was called Canaan in Bible times, so WHO ARE (OR WERE) THE CANAANITES

Ge:10:6: And the sons of Ham; Cush, and Mizraim, and Phut, and Canaan.
Ge:10:15: And Canaan begat Sidon his firstborn, and Heth,
Ge:10:18: And the Arvadite, and the Zemarite, and the Hamathite: and afterward were the families of the Canaanites spread abroad.
Ge:10:19: And the border of the Canaanites was from Sidon, as thou comest to Gerar, unto Gaza; as thou goest, unto Sodom, and Gomorrah, and Admah, and Zeboim, even unto Lasha.

HOW DID THE ISRAELITES ENTER THE LAND

Ge:11:31: And Terah took Abram his son, and Lot the son of Haran his son's son, and Sarai his daughter in law, his son Abram's wife; and they went forth with them from Ur of the Chaldees, to go into the land of Canaan; and they came unto Haran, and dwelt there.
Ge:12:5: And Abram took Sarai his wife, and Lot his brother's son, and all their substance that they had gathered, and the souls that they had gotten in Haran; and they went forth to go into the land of Canaan; and into the land of Canaan they came. .

GOD'S PROMISE TO THE PATRIARCH ABRAHAM

Ge:17:8: And I will give unto thee, and to thy seed after thee, the land wherein thou art a stranger, all the land of Canaan, for an everlasting possession; and I will be their God.

WHY DID GOD OVERTHROW THE CANAANITES AND GAVE THE LAND TO ISRAEL

De:18:9: When thou art come into the land which the LORD thy God giveth thee, thou shalt not learn to do after the abominations of those nations.
De:18:10: There shall not be found among you any one that maketh his son or his daughter to pass through the fire, or that useth divination, or an observer of times, or an enchanter, or a witch,
De:18:11: Or a charmer, or a consulter with familiar spirits, or a wizard, or a necromancer.
De:18:12: For all that do these things are an abomination unto the LORD: and because of these abominations the LORD thy God doth drive them out from before thee.

SO GOD (WHO OWNS THE WHOLE UNIVERSE) IS NOT WICKED TO JUST KILL PEOPLE ANYHOW AND REDRAW NATIONAL BORDERS,HE HAD A REASON FOR REMOVING THE CANAANITES AND INSTALLING THE ISRAELITES

The Israelites conquered the land of canaan and established the Kingdom of Israel and lived there for thousands of years till the Roman emperor Titus destroyed Jerusalem in AD 70 and many of them scattered across the globe as far as Europe and America

JESUS PREDICTED THE FALL OF JERUSALEM THE SCATTERING AND THE CURRENT CONFLICT

[I]Lu:21:20: And when ye shall see Jerusalem compassed with armies, then know that the desolation thereof is nigh.
Lu:21:21: Then let them which are in Judaea flee to the mountains; and let them which are in the midst of it depart out; and let not them that are in the countries enter thereinto.
Lu:21:22: For these be the days of vengeance, that all things which are written may be fulfilled.
Lu:21:23: But woe unto them that are with child, and to them that give suck, in those days! for there shall be great distress in the land, and wrath upon this people.
Lu:21:24: And they shall fall by the edge of the sword, and shall be led away captive into all nations: and Jerusalem shall be trodden down of the Gentiles, until the times of the Gentiles be fulfilled[/i]

The Israelites have lived in this very land for as much as 2000 years before the present day Arabs (NOT EXTERMINATED CANAANITES) entered during the middle ages through the Ottoman Jihadist campaign in the 6th century AD. Jerusalem has been the capital of Israel from the time of King David. All the so-called "occupied territories" in the West bank are places that are recorded in Bible and history books as Israeli territotory and has Israeli cultural heritage(INCLUDING THE BIRTH PLACE OF JESUS !) pre-dating the Arab muslims entrance into the land.Israelites own this land,since the time of Joshua and not 1948. Nations may have conquered them and ruled them but the land remains there own.The British have no authority to partition God's land and share it between Jews and Arab trespassers.

WHEN WILL THIS CONFLICT END

As Jesus said; and Jerusalem shall be trodden down of the Gentiles, until the times of the Gentiles be fulfilled, the time of the Gentiles is in the last minutes (NOT DAYS !)

ARE YOU READY FOR THE RETURN OF THE MASTER AND OWNER OF THE UNIVERSE - HIS DIVINE MAJESTY LORD JESUS CHRIST

Sagamite: Don't mind the person.

He has "records".

I will suya the person today.

hotwax: Thats isreal as a country.

Sir,


Kindly differentiate between Israel as a country and Jewish people. Before Israel country formed. Local Jews are already in Telaviv

hotwax: I am not talking about publications or political/ ambigous publications.
For history of middle east.

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/History_of_Israel
http://www.science.co.il/Israel-history.php

hotwax: I am not talking about publications or political/ ambigous publications.
For history of middle east.

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/History_of_Israel
http://www.science.co.il/Israel-history.php

Sagamite: Are your black people any better?

hotwax: Sorry...I dont argue with lay men. Assuming I am an illiterate with no history knowledge. You should prove to the world why you are better than me by posting facts that can invalidate my claims.

You didnt do this, but just criticized my post without any punch line.

What a typical village illiterate?

hotwax: Then go to middle east and let them tell you its not religious.

WHy is the war fought by Jihadis and not common moderate arabs?

You must be a kid. Or cant you go to google and read a little background of middle east constituents. Ishi

lastmessenger: I dont take what the pope said as the final authority.Isreal have always been hated because of their industrous nature. The world envies them and all efforts to exterminate them have never yielded fruit and will never.

hotwax: First, you are not a christian. Its either you are deluded or an illiterate.

2. The Land belongs to Jews. The bible, quran, all historic books points to it. Palestianins were formed recently by Arabs. They are basically migrants from Jordan and Egypt. Arabs are the land grabbers. We all know who owns the land.

3. Palestians dont want peace and they will never want peace. They are not interested in forming their own nation.
Isreal gave them a land mark they can use for their own country. If you are a wise man, you will take this proposal, create your country and later start fighting for the remaining land under the banner of your country recognized by UN and the world. But the palestians refused this. They are obviously not after any sovereignty.

Its all about these bigotry religion hate. Nothing more nothing else. If you move all Jews to America. Arabs will still find excuse to trace them there and kill them. Thats the fact. Its not about land.

Israel has defeated the muslims in all wars/conflicts in the past. And Muslims are bitter about this.

They want alll means to defeat isreal. Palestine is the only war front they can achieve this.

Muslims hate one fact. They hate it when they go to war and loose. Thats why they hate America. They have no problem with Russia. They have defeated Russia (a christian) country many times. SO they are cool with Russia. But Israel and America are proving stubborn.

They will never stop until they massacre jews.

and FYI, pray that Niger or Chad start firing rockets into Lagos and lets see if you will love Nger/chad for it.
Nothing is achieved through violence.

You cant use force to get anything from Isreal. Even America knows this.

hotwax: Muslim are always first to raise their fingers and when they are hit back. They starts crying like babies.

You fired rocket into Israel. DO you know if there are little children at the target of your rocket? And when Israel replies, you will start posting pictures of dead innocent children on twitter. Fake pictures some.

The world should give these muslis middle fingers.

They will attack and expect you to do nothing. When you retaliate, they will say, why did you retaliate ? As if israelis are no humans too.

Israel, let it rain. The only way you can survive in a muslim world is through brutality. That is the only language they understand.

lastmessenger: And you think they just woke up to occupy the land.when the six Arab nations came together to fight a single nation(isreal),isreal faught back and defeated them thereby occupying the land.so u want isreal to leave what they got as war booty.u are not serious.