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martinosi:
Look Dude, i think we are way past Smoke & mirrors, i just speak the plain facts & truth as i see them now,

The real problem Nigeria has right now is this "Ngozi Okonjo-Iweala  a.k.a All round Minister of the Nigerian Economy Lady
we have running wild in the GEJ Cabinet doing the bidding of her IMF/World bank Masters!!!

NIGERIAN BEHOLD UR PROBLEM BELOW ie Ngozi Okonjo-Iweala a.k.a IMF/WORLD BANK AGENT!!!

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I've got no problems with you. Me and you are Nigerians and no one can take that away. The truth is its not fair to judge people on the color of thier skin as i would not like it if people do that to me. That was why i responded to this thread as Cap was doing initially

martinosi:
Banks in Nigeria are sacking People and down-sizing due to various reasons that are
mostly being engineered from outside Nigeria, ie

1 - Pressure from IMF/WORLD Bank advisers

2 - Increased Foreign ownership (Chinese, Middles Eastern, European/USA) are telling
senior management to scale down for the "Inevitable"

3 - Tax issues , and also the Pressure of Govt/CBN to meet the interest payments of foreign creditors
(someone has to bite the bullet)

I can give you more, but i leave u to research these points ,

Oh by the way i believe u have heard that the WORLD BANK wants to establish an Office at ASO-ROCK

When will Nigerians wake up!!!

So how is that different to staffs losing jobs in the UK?

cap28:
Bros - total BS.

These id.iots actually think they are indispensable - they dont realise that they are basically just being used to reduce overheads.  

This whole thing of employing blacks as cheap labour did not start today, this is why in america, black workers were referred to as union busters because during strikes, employers would bus in black workers to take up jobs previously being done by white strikers - the black workers were used as a weapon to break up or weaken strikes.

who do you work for in the uk? Nigerian? or you just a scrounger since its obvious you will never work for a white man's company

martinosi:
stop being soo gullible,

White People dont need ur help, and if they need u they aiight gonna ask your
help on a  Nigerian Forum, they can go to their  consulate for that or even oyibosonline for that,
stop being so gullible,

Gullible? what has that got to do with anything? You talking something different. If the poster is fake,that her business. the question i am asking cap is why must he hate people because of the color of thier skin? and he has explain his trails and tribulations in the UK and he think everybody has the same problem

martinosi:
Nigerians and their BS Sometimes, is totally amazing,  CAP28 has said it all,
all of you trying to defend your exposed "rear-end" should just shut-up,

The summary of the matter is that if you work for an employee here in the
UK you are expendable ie[b] u CAN be fired/retired/re-deployed for any funny
reason, cant keep count of all the lame excuses, [/b]

IF U DONT OWN THE COMPANY U WORK FOR U CANT REALLY DEFEND ANY JOB SECURITY DEBATE!!!

Explain the reason banks in Nigeria are sacking staffs? this is a general thing and this has got nothing to do with being a foreigner. why are people thinking this way?

cap28:
I do not hate anyone - i just say things as i see them - would you prefer me to be like you and the vast majority of nigerians who prefer to live on cloud cuckoo land?

This topic was about you hating on the poster saying she should not be helped because she is white. That being delusional. If you hate them, get the hell out of UK

cap28:
You need a reality check as  you still haven't grasped one simple fact about life - that there is no such thing as a free lunch - you are there doing bog standard IT work acting like you've just invented the cure for cancer when the reality is that you are basically being used as cheap labour - if you think im lying why dont you shop around and find out what a white english guy doing your job or a similar job  earns - as they say the truth will set you free.

Say what you want. There are lot of IT jobs in the uk. If i leave my current place, the knowledge and experience is enough for me to work anywhere. Do you know what Outsourcing means? and who ever said anything about free lunch? i knew from the days i came here that there is no free lunch lunch. You got to work hard. If you actually worked in Nigeria before, you much be one of those who are lazy who just go to work and not productive at all. so you think you can do the same here in uk. Get a life bro. i managed computer networks and there will always be one IT guy in every company no matter how outsourced it would be. My job is never a threat to me. i get a very good wage for my experience and i told you it gonna go up every year. For God sake this is not Nigeria where you will be trapped on one Job.  You can always move in IT and your pay gets bigger all the time.

The truth is you are just a player hater. You started from hating the poster to hating your own Nigerian people just because we told you the truth about you hating on White people.

cap28:
isnt it funny how every single nigerian on this forum has "a very good job" - the amazing thing is i never come across any nigerian faces whenever i go into offices in central london (unless you want to include the doormen or the people on reception)

NL - THE PLACE WHERE  YOU CAN MAKE ALL YOUR FANTASIES COME TRUE.

Thats your problem. You think every Nigerian stays in London.I dont, I stay in the southeast but Wait a minute. what did you say " i never come across any nigerian faces whenever i go into offices in central london". Come on, are you for real? which offices have you been going to? You sound funny to me. I have gone for lot of interview before i got my job and i have seen Nigerians in thier office working as IT or project Managers and that is london. You need to change the people you move with. Seriously, you have been fed wrong information and you have been going to the wrong places. Listen dude, you dont work as a professional. thats the truth for you having such a dirty mindset like this and if you do (which i doubt), you probably think you are the only Nigerian with official job

cap28:
IT is a job that anyone with the ability to move one foot in front of the other can do - its not that difficult  and you probably got the job because being black you are cheaper to hire - that is a fact. Even in my profession blacks and asians are paid less than their white counterparts - you can continue to deceive yourself that you are somehow indispensable to them or that they have done you a big favour - they havent.

The majority of IT jobs have actually been outsourced to India where technicians will work for half your salary so you better watch your back because you might soon find yourself in the dole queue.

You dont have to be uneducated to be racist - educated people are just better at masking their racism - i attended a university here where all the middle class white kids who were privately educated kept themselves to themselves and never hung out with anyone who wasnt like them - many educated whites do not socialise with blacks - you do not understand anything about english people or their culture thats why you are on the defensive, once you understand them you will stop getting so worked up about what i am saying. This country is very race and class conscious, the majority of whites who tend to socialise with blacks are from working class backgrounds

There no point in me arguing with you or stuff. From your words, you sound very frustrated. I wont argue with you other than if you think IT is easy, Get a job in IT and see for your self. With Cisco,Microsoft servers Citrix Vmware Juniper networks  I get paid well enough for me to live a very comfortable life here and my salary is going to be reviewed yearly so i cant complain.i get sent to seminars and i attend trainings. The fact that you hate a whole race just because you encountered a few people who treated you badly is ridiculous. If that was it, i would never have gotten this job because everyone who think like you will think as a  Nigerian,i would want to steal data. As the admin, i handle all private stuff.Never been disrespected at my work place. You sound very frustrated man. and you need help. Dont blame a whole race just because you been treated badly.

cap28:
If the shoe were on the other foot they would never help you because they dont want you in their country let alone competing for jobs with them.

English people are very good at SMILING IN YOUR FACE BUT TEARING YOU APART AS SOON AS YOUR BACK IS TURNED, I HAVE LIVED, STUDIED AND WORKED WITH THEM FOR MOST OF MY LIFE AND I KNOW THAT THEY MERELY TOLERATE FOREIGNERS ESPECIALLY BLACK FOREIGNERS. 

Many nigerians like you are brainwashed, have low self esteem and feel inferior to whites thats why you cant tell when  you are being spoken to rudely, english people feel superior to africans, but they mask their contempt with a technique known as  sarcasm and fake smiles which many nigerians who didnt grow up around english people do not understand, many nigerians who arrive in the UK as adults from nigeria  act like inferior fools around white people and cant tell when they are being made fun of - you sound like you must be one of them.  I would like to know what position you occupy in that company, does the job you do involve exchanging ideas and opinions? do you have any english subordinates workign under you?  how do they relate to you? do they take orders from you? what do they think of your opinions?  many nigerians like  yourself are delusional and actually think whites respect you - ive got news for you - they dont, why shoudl they when they can hire and fire you at the drop of a hat? you have no power or control over them but they have total control and power over your livelihood as they control access to jobs and income- I have no reason to feel inferior to anyone as i am well educated and have a good job working within a profession where elitism and racism is a fact of life, many nigerians do not work or relate to white people on an equal basis because many of them are working in the service sector in low paid jobs or bottom rung govt jobs where their views and opinions are never sought - i think this is where you are coming from

i am the only IT officer where i work. The only IT guy.You heard. I went through interviews with lot of Citizens here but i was the one they chose,  I attend Technical meetings and my opinion matters a lot where i work.i draft out proposal and it gets approved. I am currently drafting another one now for another project. I work with Educated people, not benefit scroungers . I fix things here and people appreciate it.  i dont blame you From the questions you have asked and responses here, i am 90% sure you worked with uneducated people.People who think you are stealing thier job( Unskilled labor) or trying to get thier benefits. I am not delusional. Like i said where you work and stay matters a lot and who you relate with. Speaking of rudely, that can never happen in an official place in UK. It must all be in your head feeling inferior. Most people who dislike foreigners are unskilled guys. Have you not heard of companies in UK recruiting people from India? if everyone was racist,would they bring them in?

cap28:
why are we so desperate to be of assistance to our enemies?

If this poster is in fact a white british woman (which i doubt) - why should we care about her welfare?

lets put the shoe on the other foot - how many white british people would be willing to give a nigerian family advice on how to relocate and get started in britain?

how do white british people view nigerians in the work place? how supportive are they towards nigerians who are new to their country?

if you are on the same page as me i'm sure that you would have come to the same conclusion as me that the answer is none.

if i were given a penny for the number of white british people who have asked me why i am in their country, when am i going back i woudl be a millionaire and yet, and yet we have some dumb nigerians on here giving this white british woman advice on how she can get a good job, upgrade herself and her lifestyle and have access to a standard of living that many nigerians in nigeria itself do not even have - they say charity begins at home - i noticed that some self hating nigerians even had the audacity to brag that nigerians treat foreigners better than their own people - shame on you. How many white people do you know that treat foreigners better than their own people? This same woman who is begging for advice on here would never put you before her own people if you came to britain looking for a better life.

If you have never worked with white british people please do not respond to my post, i have worked with them and i know how much they despise black people. They smile in your face but will stop at nothing to make your life a living hell.

Nigerians stop feeling inferior to whites - they have no respect for you and just use you to get what they want, the whites in nigeria are only there because they are living a lifestyle they could only dream about in the UK. I work with these people and they have nothing good to say about africa and africans.

Forget about all the bullshi.t and lies many delusional fools tell you on here.

Are you for real? How does helping people now feel inferior? because she is white, we must not assist her? What kind of racist talk are you talking? I currently work in a company where i am the only African and i have never been disrespected. As long as i dont cross my boundaries and follow my job description, i am fine. Most people i know who have have been disrespected are people who do menial jobs but you cant blame someone who is ignorant.

[quote author=Okija_juju link=topic=887600.msg10348143#msg10348143 date=1331118378]Abumutallab (Terrorists)

Yoruba people (Dirty Owanbe partying and Baba suwe drug smugllers)[/quote]Its obvious people like you will never change. whatever you say to make you feel better. hiding behind computers to diss other people's tribe

There we go again. Always shifting blame to one side. First its was a tribal issue.Now its Nigerians abroad. When will you guys learn to take responsibility rather than throwing blame on someone else. Are you saying Fraud is not being committed in Nigeria? So its ok to hide the fraud in Nigeria but when it is done abroad, Its a shame. Whats your point?i dont get it.

Its really sad. Just to think we hate each other so much and we live in the same country. There are still issues with racism and now tribal issues. Hating the same color of skin just because there are from another tribe. I mean come on. Must you guys go this low. We should be talking on how to make Nigeria a developed country and share knowledge.Thats why Nairaland exist so we can share knowledge not insult each other. If you go outside Nigeria, No one cares which tribe, Your passport is all they need to know where you from. This guy messed up and to the whole world he is known as a Nigerian (Not igbo). Its sad an pathetic cuz my girlfriend was reading all this message and she was surprised that Nigerians are dissing each other. We have issues with racism,must we have issues with tribe also. Please its not only Nigerians that are reading this forum, a lot of other nationalities are and when they see this, they wonder whats wrong with Nigeria as a whole. There are lots of fraudsters here from different tribes but at the same time there are good citizens of Nigeria too all over the world doing good making Nigerians proud. We dont have to continue this tribe diss and it very bad. This is a very big weakness in our country with tribalist or whatever they call themselves. This is how foreigners with get to us and continue to take us for a ride because they have seen our weakness that we have tribal issues.

There is more to life than just dissing other tribes.

Funny how people hide behind computers to diss other ethnic tribes. i am sure in real life most of everyone throwing insults are just people who cant express themselves in the rel world so they come her to throw insult. Pathetic idiots. Its the only way you feel important

Cypost:
Some pple are just too Bias
D person attacking d tribe of d fruadster cAn he sincerely assert dt such cannot be found within his tribe.

One thing with hating is while d hater is busy biting himself d Object of d hate is unaware if his(hater) pains and dose nothing to help and sometimes try to aggravate it.

If u like, hate d igbos from now to eternity and call them all sorts, it dose not remove anything them either as a group or as individuals. You are merely biting and causing pains to urself. Same goes with hating Yorubas, Hausas, Efiks etc.

I condemn what  fraudster ve done.
My 2c

Much respect for you,  bruv,

You would have taught educated Nigerians will not go this low to attach each other tribes. We got work to do in developing our Country but they spent the whole time dissing other tribes. Is this joblessness? or what? How can we develop? People from other countries dont give a bleep which tribe he is from, They know him as a Nigerian. Read the bleeping news if you guys dissing each other here can read.

ojofu:
when I got this mail, i decided to do some little investigation by tracing the source of this mails. I goggled " how to trace emails" and i got this site http://my-addr.com/trace_email_address/free_email_trace_route/online_email_trace_route_tool.php . Using the mail header of the mail they sent me, the result of the trace  is shown below.

Path               IP                    Hostname                              Country            City          Lat.      Long.        ISP
sender      10.252.0.104     Local network computer        
path pt     127.0.0.1           Local network computer
path pt    208.75.123.133 ccm25.constantcontact.com United States   Waltham  42.403 -71.259     AS40444
                                                                                                                                                           Constant
                                                                                                                                                            Contact, Inc

Dest.      208.75.123.133 ccm25.constantcontact.com United States  Waltham  42.403 -71.259    AS40444
                                                                                                                                                       Constant
                                                                                                                                                       Contact, Inc

I also trace the mail sent to me by Vio-dvla and Riverland hospital  and the result were all most the same for example,
the Sender IP for Pawa774- 10.252.0.104
the Sender IP for Vio-dvla-   10.252.0.105
the Sender IP for Riverland Hospital- 10.252.0.106

Even though i may not be able to interpret some of this result but why the similarities, does this mean that the mail  purportedly send by three different organisations are being sent from this same place?
With my little knowledge of IP I think this mails are being sent from the same source, Pls correct me if am wrong.

You not wrong. they are using all this web based email account. The IP gave them away. No same companies have the same IP address.Its obvious by their IP address the 3 companies are on the same network.

ichidodo:
Dem knw na, nah y e dey pain dem,especialy d yiriba guys. Dem no fit catch our babes but we dey carry all their wenches in sack-loads put inside soak-away pits, Make i go meet my[b] fair-skinnd[/b] igbo wife.

Na wa oooo

phreakabit:
[size=18pt]If this thread made the frontpage. How the hell did the one quoted below miss making it? You "sons and daughters of filth" are a bunch of amala brained morons! [/size]

erm this made front page. If you notice,most of the crime do not report Nigerian on Nairaland's website . Its states the full name of the person

Cant you all accept he is a Nigerian and stop talking about his tribe?

ichidodo:
Na wa 4 u o! How u expect a full blooded igbo man 2 carry last? We kno dey do am, instead d smart dude must gotten a very gud to plead his case hence he goin do quick time.  Some dumb yiriba dude is doin 30yrs 4 a lighter crime.

why do you have hatred on other tribes? I have seen your last post somewhere and you just love to hate other tribes. This Naija dude committed a crime and you think he is smart for doing 6 years? Come on man, Listen to your self. and to top it off, you think he is smart because another guy from another tribe is doing longer years?. So whats your point? that he is smart enough to continue beating the system?

ada24:
wow and people wonder why progress is slow in Nigeria - 2 pages and mostly about his tribe - do u think the judge and jury on this case where told he was from the Yoruba tribe or that he was Nigerian - anyway i blame the colonial masters for this divide and conquer rubbish they did

see we are here arguing the tribe instead of addressing the bigger issue which is greed and rampant immorality that is deeply embedded in the Nigerian society caused by a deep poverty mentality among all tribes.

Its really pathetic and annoying hearing tribal insult. Blaming each other for problems.

Some Nigerians here are stupid. WTF is wrong with you lots. Cant you just fucking accept yourself as one. Must every problem result to tribalism issue? You think anyone would listen to you if you say which tribe is corrupt or not? Geez. Fucking get a life. I am getting pissed with you lot here and i am sure in the real world,you got friends of different ethnic origin but on Nairaland, you flex your muscle cuz you hide behind computers trying rubbish. Does it make you feel better when you base a crime on tribe? No other person in another country cares which tribe,he is known as a Nigerian.
There is a lot of problem going on the world. Racism, Religious problem. Now we have to deal with a whole lot of tribalism in the same country.

And you wonder why we not moving forward because we spend most of out time trying to shift blame on one tribe or another

wow. i am impressed. the vehicles in picture looks cool.

also

Lots of idiots on this forum. Must everything has to do with Ethnicity. This guy created this cars for Nigerians and there are people just saying thrash around here. bringing ethnicity and insult here abt tribes.trying to say one tribe is better than the other

And you wonder why Nigeria is still as it is,  dumb brains

This politicians are so silly. They launder oney out of Nigeria and most of the time they use UK. UK will accept your money and once they feel its enough, they arrest you for money laundering and what happens to the money? Its stays in the UK and never handed back to Nigeria. Goes into the UK system Well they can use the money to feed the bastard in jail.

Logic Mind:
This country must divide.

WTF is this?

IMHO i think windows 7 is still better than Windows 8. i just installed it and i think its going to be complicated for users with just basic knowledge of computing. I dont know much about the apps for tablets and phones for the desktop is not that cool to me.

I am a christian and the idea of speaking in tongues baffles me a lot. I use to think speaking in tongues was speaking a different language other than your mother tongue. Yet i am yet to hear people speak in tongues in other foreign languages.

u guys sure abt this? nothing on the news here

Jiah011:
What is over-speeding when there are no speed limits in the first place! Talk less of speed limits, are there regulations/ schools that people must pass to get a drivers license? Everyone one wants to sing and dance when they get a car, but one should ask "Do you know how to even drive?" And if there are laws, who enforces the laws? You mean the fake Naija, shoot-at-will police that break laws rather than upholding laws. I was amazed when I visited Naija and saw the police driving backwards on a one way street (a very busy one at that) and I thought to myself, if they can do it, what makes anyone think they have to follow those yeye laws. Nigerians do not even know the meaning of yielding! Two people will fight at one junction to go first, when all that should be done is for one person to let the other one go first! They will both still get to their destination, and faster too  .

Poor Nigerian roads are a product of the undeveloped and corrupt society- Driving illiteracy, poor roads, general lawlessness. Over speeding, abi! Where are the speed limits written to inform the public and what consequences are there if you break the speed limit? None! So people will continue to be wasted on the roads for no reason. #NigerianProblems

i think we have speed limit sign ooo. werepeLeri just finished a project on that but he said its for animals not people,

werepeLeri:
No - they are not visible for people to see, they are visible to animals to see.

u have just answered my question.

werepeLeri:
Sometimes we just talk without reasoning. Who told you there is no speed limit? The roads are adorned with speed signs and road signs - yet you say there is no speed limit.

I just finished a project where I have to take positions of all road signs all over the roads in Nigeria - the speed limit signs are all over the place, but the thing is, noone obeys them.

Where are the speed limits located? From the project you said you just completed, are the signs clearly visible for people to see? You talking of a country that has billboards and advertisements all over the road. How do you expect the driver to know where the speed signs are. Are there speed signs in every street and roads in Nigeria. I am not talking of express roads.