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Don't believe this at all. Most Nigerians born abroad know where they are from and they know the different between calling Africa a country. its mostly Nigerians who want to make other feel they were not born in Nigeria act this way. I have seen it number of times. They pretend they don't know but they do.

creamofluv:
I always say this and i will say it again, Nigerians back home are way, alot better than nigerians in the UK especially. Plus some people says why Nigerians in the UK doesnt help.

I will tell you why, cause some of them are ungrateful B.A.S.T.ARD and that's a fact. Situations here in the UK are so vicous circle, a guy has a problem, you asked him to come to your house, he stayed there for 6 months, didnt pay a dime towards the rent, He got his own place, few months or yrs down the road, you had a problem, you went back to the guy you helped for 6 months to house you for a while till you get back on ya feet, guess what the guy treat you like dirt, like you never helped him before.

Am sure some of ya'll will understand what I mean.

[b]Nigerians here are just useless and ungratefu[/b]l.

Another point. Just because a few people you know did wrong things and are selfish does not mean everyone is bad. i mean come on, why is it that we Nigerians think this way?

saokea:
There is something I have noticed about us on Nairaland, we are so good at raining abuses on one another at the slightest opportunity. Even if a Nairalander says something that is not comfortable with you or you find not to be true, it doesn't mean the person is a slowpoke. We say these things without considering the consequences of what we say. We sometimes curse one another, forgetting that we are human beings and not animals. We ought to respect ourselves.
I can be argued that we don't value ourselves or our ideas. Does it mean that we don't value human beings as this is the current situation in Nigeria?!

i agree with you. i think the poster wanted this to happen. A lot of people enjoy insulting or bringing down other people just to make themselves feel better.
The major problem i have with this topic is the fact that people generalize things. My family helps me when i need money or stay for holidays of 2 weeks, My friends do the same thing.
But at the end, everyone is entitled to their own views

I knew this topic would resolve to this.I am surprised busy_body is not here as this is what she wanted  initially.

4real:
sol4real those in Nigeria what network do you use to connect your ps3 for online gaming

i really want to know too and if it lags a little

[quote author=Busy_body link=topic=810125.msg9625629#msg9625629 date=1322159398]I feel you 100% usewisdom, Nigerians in diaspora are generally wicked and envious. They prefer you not to have a job so they can keep you as their house slaves yet even if you are working, they still expect you to help them bath their kids, feed them and take them to school before you go to your own school or work, and they expect you to go and pick their kids from school as well as feed them and babysit them till they come back from work. Some would volunteer their accounts like you mentioned yet pilfer your money.

Some have to sleep outside sometimes because they refuse to give you a spare key, they moan and grumble about you switching on the light, using water, gas, etc, you would be lucky to get hot water to use to bath sef because na only one hour dem dey switch their heater on daily, yet you see the poor gutter rats all over nairaland boasting that they have electricity and water 24/7. And they never fail to attend churches faithfully on Sunday too.

For most part, loads of people are struggling to make ends meet so every extra person that comes to live with them makes it more unbearable to pay their bills hence reason for the hostility and using one like a slave. You can't really blame them. There is no excuse though, the asians are in similar situation to us, yet they look after their own kind. May God forgive us Nigerians.


I shouldn't laugh, but this got me rolling on the floor in tears [/quote]Reading your post is so funny

Its up to u to decide. Here too,its not easy to progress.you have to keep on updating yourself and show you better than your colleagues.

Alikote:
sky walker i studied chemistry in my undergraduate.most young people in govt job in Nigeria are just waiting to loot the funds of the parastala they are in the waiting game go on and it get to your turn to loot that's career progression nijia style sycophancy rule and sum time i even forgot i went to school just to please a dump Bottom old about to retire or die director general

I feel you but you should be careful about the decision you make as it could affect your future. The fact that you work for corrupt leader does not make u a bad person. It seems there is no career progression in that field for you. I don't really know much about chemistry and i don't think there are lot of jobs in UK for that (just my opinion,i could be wrong). The advise i can give you is this.What profession do u want to do? Make research on it if there are jobs available for it here. look at what they require and how you can adjust yourself in getting that. If you cant step up to the mark.its gonna be hard possible.I got my job 6 months ago after 1 year graduating. But there are other job here you can do but dont be tempted of being a rich Guy in uk. You can be comfortable and enjoy the basic things in life which is not in Nigeria or only rich people have. Its a difficult decision for you to make but the choice is yours

[quote author=Omo_Tier1 link=topic=809846.msg9621449#msg9621449 date=1322120996]@OP,
The truth, unless you are very good in your computing stuff, the UK is so much saturated with IT guys that the salary is falling faster than a feather! Yes, doing MSc would be a huge bonus plus an opportunity for international exposure to standard practices in the industry but if I may ask, is there no way of keeping your current job with your employer, with an undertaking of 1year study leave ?

100K Naira a month for real is not upto the amount some of us pay for National Insurance contribution + Taxes for a month! MSc graduate in computing with previous industry work experience in related field attracts decent pay up 25,000pounds per year! Take home monthly pay around 2200pounds for entry graduate! Convert that to Naira[/quote]Seems you forgot Tax and cost of living

@ Poster
   Depends on how you market yourself when you graduate and what degree or profession you are in. Dont get that feeling your salary will increase if you go back to Nigeria.I have friends who went back hoping their salary would increase.Did not and came back to UK and luckily they got their IT jobs. It depends if you are happy with your current job,stay. If you are not and you  see no career progression in it,Move,  Like i said it depends on your degree.i know its hard getting a job but it depends on you.Once you get here.Look at what recruiters are looking for in a candidate and make sure you have it before you finish your masters.I cant say much as i dont know your degree.i majored in IT so my advice would be irrelevant if you not in the field

usewisdom:
Justwise: for example, i have accommodation problem in london, and u offer me a temporrary accommodation while u claim to be a christian. My point is ''Because u offer me a temporary accommodation, must i be watching your dirty plates? cleaning your house? taking your kids to school? sending me an enrand everywhere? Telling me what to do in the house. compulsory it to me indirectly what to do in the house? Giving me time to go out and the time i must be at home?
Asking me to prepare your bed? And the worst is ''calling my mobileand describing to me where to get your wears to iron and your kids school uniform to iron.

Now tell me, if u said its right, then the handwriting has already written on the wall that you're simply ONE OF THEM.

If your friend gets a job, the errands would reduce. It will show he is responsible. Staying in UK and not looking for a job is a sign of someone not being responsible.unless ur friend has rich parents from Naija

justwise:
If 98%  of people know that then next time your friend becomes homeless send him to one of them.

Don't expect a single mother who lives on benefit to accommodate your friend while he do nothing to appreciate it, if he works he should be able to help the woman one way or the other without been told.

If your friend can't show any form of appreciation then he should move out and pay for hotel accommodation.

Well said. Nigerians always want something for nothing. Not with the high cost of living.Even if the woman is on benefit,how much is it that she is being paid and she has to take care of her kids and bills. why cant your friend get a job and contribute small to the running of the house.At least he is not paying house rent

Major problems

Tribalism
Religious crisis
Corrupt government

 

IMHO Tribalism is the main problem because if we cant see ourselves as one,we can never develop and more problems will arise.

yamakuza:
^ keep practicing (on your simulator or rented pod).

Join a Networking Group at your local university.

Attend a bootcamp in India.

I've got cisco packet tracer but that is not really helping as i can do basic configs with them using ethernet cables but where i work,we dont use that cuz of the distance of switches between them.i am sure GNS3 can do something interesting but i dont know how to use it

attend bootcamp in india? Men, that is out of it at the moment.it would be nice if i can get video tutorial on bootcamp but going to india is not an option now.

i stay far away from where i graduated and i would not have time as i work 9-5 monday to friday

yamakuza:
eh yah. U have your work cut out for you.

Dont u have friends in that line as well?

Time to attend a bootcamp.

Most of my mates work for security companies and thier job is to resolve technical issues on those products. They are more like Technical support.I am pretty much on my own at the moment on that

yea i heard of gns 3 but i dont know how to run it. i have been used to cisco packet tracer

419

SO U FEEL YOU WILL GET GOOD ADVICE HERE?

yamakuza:
^ u said u froze first time you entered your server room?

I mean spending more time there, watching the people that work on the routers, asking them questions, practicing on your simulators at home, and taking up more Routing and Switching responsibilities as they arise.

Thats the problem. Nobody is meant to work in the server room except me.Thats what i said that using simulators is different from real life. things have change from using Ethernet cable to join switch cuz we use patch panel to join switches in different location. They expect me cuz i have ccna to know a lot more than them. i dont work in IT company. just an IT depart of 3

yamakuza:
then its best you start getting your hands dirty now that you dont critically need the skills, and the resources are at your fingertips!

aaahhhh you mean messing with the company's router,lol. thats the brain of the network. i will have to buy some switches and routers and mayb run a test lab at home

to be honest. I keep avoiding them. Reason being is that Microsoft server made it easy with graphical interface to do lot of things and with firewalls and spamguard devices. it makes routers work less. i would love to learn switches and router configuration again.

yea but experience matters a lot

yamakuza:
Skywalker, sorry about that.

Thats the downside to learning a hands-on course with CBT.

However, with practice and patience, you can overcome that challenge.

There are many routes to a networking career asides Cisco, but if thats what your company uses, you just have to know those commands.

What would you say about Linux then?

Currently my company does not use Linux but i have basic knowledge of Linux. windows is quite easy to be honest,i chose to stick to windows cuz it makes life so easy. there are lot of programs out there that can help you in troubleshooting and that has helped me a lot. i can say i have no good knowledge in routers and switches which is a shame and i would love to learn it but the best place would be someone from Nigeria cuz uk is filled with microsoft products which to be far it is is. with Microsoft server which helps in dns dhcp deploying software e.tc. it make it easier to learn and understand although it got its downside also.

yamakuza:
Ever since MCSE became pure water, people shifted attention away from MSFT Certs for a while.

That was about the time vsat and broadband became popular in 9ja, so CCNA was hot.

People preferred CCNA 35k to MCSE 80k because mcse was pure water then. They would rather spend dat 80k on CCNP.

It was also assumed that any certified person could learn MSFT tools on the job.

i.e. if u can pass CCNA or RHCT/E, configuring exchange should be easy to learn/do, without neccessarily acquiring the certs.

I really hate CCNA as the networking aspect is really annoying. i learnt in uk using train signal and cbtnugget but when you are put in the real world,its really confusing. For instance, things like patch panel and fibre channel are not taught in there. Besides Cisco made it frustrating as u hardly can use their products with other products like netgear. here Netgear switches are common and easier to install. i dont know if they are in Nigeria. i have ccna but when i was taken to the server room at where i currently work,i froze and gave up on routers and focues on micrsoft. if there are book about general router and switch config.that would be nice but at the moment,i hate cisco. you have to go through all those command prompt stuff when you can easily use web interface to configure vlans and stuff. it made me feel like i know nothing

cuz people dont talk about it unlike ccna

wow. Thats interesting. How come job adverts for them are not many?

Are people not studying for microsoft server and exchange?

saviola77:
I also have been working with MS Exchange and BES for years now, and I'll say we've come a long way in Nigeria. Please give us a little more credit.

my question is,i have never seen any IT advert that talk about Microsoft server and exchange a lot and if they are.How much are they getting paid,estimate ?i mean the IT guys

really. well that's nice to know. i left Nigerian when CCNA was making waves but i never used it as i did not get a job in Nigeria. but for comapnies that are not using server and exchange. How do they run their network. Thats is what i am interested in now because i plan to come to Nigeria but i need to know which type of infrastructure most companies use. I dont want to come home and people tell me my Microsoft experience is useless.

There are people that are call technical support and IT support in Nigeria. if they dont use Microsoft servers, what products do they support?

It obvious they were going to come and invade Nigeria. Iraq,Libya and now Nigeria. and thanks to the stupid government. everytime they see white,they bow and thats is what they will use to steal our oil.

Foolish people. Do you think America wants to really help us or extort us?