₦airaland Forum

No one trusts ACN either. They are bigger thieves .

debosky:
@ solology

The internet is available for you to educate yourself - Eko Rail is a consortium. If you don't understand what a Consortium is and how they are formed, read up on it and don't expect to be spoon fed at every juncture.

In any case, I'll help you a little bit since we are in the season for giving.

http://www1.ifc.org/wps/wcm/connect/25d8f2804956d2ac92b6be849537832d/7.1_LessonsTransportPPPAfrica-EkoRail.pdf?MOD=AJPERES

Oh please , stop preaching to the choir. Is HITEC a consortium or not? Is it not a private company? Is there anyone in Lagos who doesnt know who owns/profits from it?

Kobojunkie:
@Sology, please ignore @Debosky's silly question there. This lame attempts to derail from the issue has gone on long enough I beg you.


aaarrrgggghhh!!!!  

lol,

here is Ekorail : http://ekorail.net/ . A one page website hurriedly put up just for this project. They shouldnt close their eyes and try to sell to us that Eko Rail is some company somewhere without any links to Lagos government because we aint buying it.

Where are the other Land mark projects? Where are other similar projects completed by Eko Rail?

Please, lets just leave this discussion on the issue at hand which is the usefulness or otherwise of the cars being purchased by Government.

debosky:
Not to be pedantic, but I didn't ask a question - I made a request. The only question here was asked by sology as the question mark in his post indicates. I'd expect you to understand such a distinction but hey, maybe the Christmas indulgence is dulling the senses.

So why dont you answer the question as you know it was a question that I asked? Ehnn? Debosky

I still cant see that which is so terrible about his statement. GEJ's statement, yes but this one here, I dont see anything wrong.

hercules07:
@Kobo

Apparently you have not read the original thread, the trains are being bought by a private company, why is it difficult for you to accept that, there are many threads where Eko Ile has straightened that part out. Fashola went to inspect the trains because this is a mega project for the state.

Question is who is Eko Rail? Please sir, no one is deceived.

topestyles:
There is no hype about Fx, you either know how to trade or you dont!, just like any other biz, you either know your way in or you are showed the way out!

I am not a regular poster/commentator on this forum( the forum has my respect and i can say its one of my favorite abode online),so i will not try to argue blindly or emotionally as most do!, No statistics shows that 98% or 2% of traders in Nigeria are losers!, but i can tell you that the larger chunk of traders here in Nigeria do loose have met and discussed with over 300 Nigerian traders( that number could be small compared to the number of ''forex traders'' or  ''forex gamblers'' in the country)

During the era of wonder banks, most thought they participated in forex,NO, most didn't,rather they engaged in a ponzi scheme and those that did trade forex did it without any for of knowledge( i once worked with a wonder bank who approached me under the cover of an investment firm).

Those who actually make money from forex aint the noisy ones( i am humbled to say i am one of them),i do not mean those that make  100, 500 or 1000usd daily,  i mean those  that make the real cash in forex( the real cash? yeah.1000usd?No,2000usd ? No, 5000 usd? Yes!) Most of them do not offer semi baked classes, they don't even have the time! cos it probably takes then less than a trading session to make triple of whatever you want to pay them!)

Do you know that most of those who claim to manage funds for investors do not even have a single account?


Cheers

Tope


www.myfxstyles..com

So with all this obvious achievement of yours in this field, you still dont think that having your own domain/website would add more credibility to your claims/business?

You are using a free offering(). Its unheard of with forex account managers abroad. With the kind of money you say you are making, its really baffling that you insist on using a free service like .

Why do people open these 'Igbos will do so and so' threads knowing that the ridiculous nature of the propositions will always bring ridicule and backlash?

All through Nairaland, you have some irredeemably trabalistic individuals spewing their bunkum all over the place. Internet tribal warriors that cant boast of any positive contribution to the Nation, nay no positive contribution whatsoever upon this earth.

Just like you have those who claim to be Igbos and claim to speek for Igbos, you have other equally decadent buffoons who have arrogated to themselves the right to speak for and represent yorubas. A useless and irreverent bunch of people of the basest kind speaking spuriously of what they know absolutely nothing about.

It would be understandable if these two groups of people were pre-teens(they speek like pre-teens) but its alarming and horrifying to note that these people are grown-as's men. A generation lost.

Personally I don't think removing Jonathan will solve our problem because those who will replace him are likely to be the same or worse. I think the best strategy is one of obstructionism.

That means we block every thing Jonathan tries to do. We frustrate his every move. The NLC and TUC seem to be doing reasonably well in delaying his subsidy removal plans. If we can do the same thing with all his other harebrained ideas, maybe we can completely tie his hands so that he can't do too much damage before 2015.

The problem with this plan is that the likes of Boko Haram will get a free reign until then. But this is probably inevitable anyway because there's no constitutionally acceptable way to remove Jonathan, Sambo and Mark together. Whatever we do, we'll still be stuck with the spine of the same ineffective PDP government.

Am afraid, you are not making much sense. In your first post, you submit that he hasnt done well in 22 months, then here you say that you dont believe that removing him will solve the problem. Then amazingly, you say that the best thing is 'obstructionism'. In other words, any project, policies that he tries to introduce, whether good or bad, you obstruct in other words ensuring that he doesnt succeed in anything.

I dont get this line of thinking. So if he has some good policies, you would rather obstruct it to make him fail so that by 2015, he would leave without achieving anything?

“The latest mindless and cowardly attacks by Boko Haram members specifically directed at churches were pre-meditated. Only last week, five Improvised Explosive Devices (IEDs) were recovered in five churches at Mubi in Adamawa State. and this didn't make the news?

It was reported in the news.

“It is significant to note that Boko Haram’s major armoury in Yobe was destroyed only last week. Yet another armoury in Kaduna and two in Kano were destroyed also last week, in addition to heavy casualties the sect sustained.not in the news either - who do these moro-ns think they are fooling? 

At least the Yobe bomb making factory discovery(including the battle that ensued between Haramites and Security officers) was reported in the news

assetstrap:
For crying out loud, the LASG is trying to improve transportation in Lagos by introducing trains, refurbished trains that would have undergone full engineering checks and upgraded and people r complaining. incredible!!! How much can ordinary lagosians afford to pay for brand new trains. Give me a fukkin break!!!

Kobojunkie:
^^^ You know what though? That is a good question. How much does the average Lagoscian currently pay for transportation each day. Let's open a separate thread to find out. Please start one and then we can get past this at least.

Well, we know for a certainty that transportation withing the Lekki axis costs motorists an average of N600-N700 per day. For those who dont drive, the burden is being transferred from the toll fees to them.

fork adict:
This Christmas is the worst i have celebrated in a very long while. First of, a chic i had plans of forking to a state of coma did not honor our appointment. Omo men, e no funny. Konji nearly scatter my head!

Next was the series of bombing across the nothern cities. Then came the stooooooopid utterance by GEJ who i feel is the daftes and most stooooooopid president in the whole world.

But why the hell are nigerians so sentimental, shortsighted and downright stoooopid? How could this guy have won the last presidential election? Nigerians knew full well that this guy was a failed governor of a tiny state (both in land mass and in population)  in the south south region. Yet they expected him to succeed as President of a complec country like naija?

Please my people, let us start mobilising now for Buhari come 2015. Weve got just 3 yrs. We should not let these sentimental and foolist bigots put our lives in jeopardy for another 4 years.
.

There is no way anyone here can take you seriously . Since you equate your inability to have sex to the terrible tragedy that befell our Nation.
Are you a teenager or what? So irreverent .

[quote author=ekt_bear link=topic=831960.msg9835401#msg9835401 date=1324875519]Have we not already discussed why expecting to buy the cars for $1,500 is unrealistic?[/quote]Murtaza Haider, director of the Institute of Housing and Mobility at Ryerson University, said the age of the cars is definitely a cause for concern.

“We should be ensuring that there is some service life left in these vehicles and we’re not going to be playing havoc with the lives of those who would ride these vehicles,” Haider said. “There’s metal fatigue, and that metal fatigue could result in dangerous conditions. I would be paying a close watch on this for the next ten years to see how many accidents do happen in Lagos.”

If the above quote from those who have inside info on this deal is anything to go by, then whether $1,500 or not, they are not good enough for Lagos.

kingoflag:
Nigerians want "Bullet Train" In a country where the Cops still wear flip-flops to patrol the neighborhood. E ma duro pe!

Not necessarily. Just something that wont kill us all in a bit.

Back to the topic ooo.

For those complaining that people are complaining, the issue here is bringing old, worn out cars(that shouldnt cost up to $1,500) which normarly, is sold as scrap for use in a place like Lagos.


[b]Fashola visited Toronto earlier this year to inspect the TTC trains.

The Lagos deal would be the first of its kind for the TTC. Decommissioned cars are usually sold for scrap metal and can fetch up to $1,500 dollar each. While Ross declined to discuss specific figures, he says the sticker price for Lagos is “significantly more” than scrap prices, putting the potential profits to the TTC in the millions of dollars.

“Once sold, it’s up to the new operator to ensure they are in good working order,” he said. “They do need to be maintained much more frequently than the new trains, simply because of their age. At some point they will run out their useful life.”

Murtaza Haider, director of the Institute of Housing and Mobility at Ryerson University, said the age of the cars is definitely a cause for concern.

“We should be ensuring that there is some service life left in these vehicles and we’re not going to be playing havoc with the lives of those who would ride these vehicles,” Haider said. “There’s metal fatigue, and that metal fatigue could result in dangerous conditions. I would be paying a close watch on this for the next ten years to see how many accidents do happen in Lagos.”

He also warned that while rail systems are glamorous as far as transit infrastructure goes, they are not always as effective at reducing congestion as other options. Nevertheless, new rail systems are frequently preferred because governments can take advantage of kickbacks from large contracts.

According to media reports, the cost estimates for the Lagos rail project have varied wildly from $1.2 billion to $30 billion. In 2010, a Nigerian government watchdog accused Fashola’s government of widespread corruption. [/b]

This article claims that Church members arrested two of the suspected bombers

http://www.thenationonlineng.net/2011/index.php/news/31096-bloody-xmas-day.html

Also, an expert suspects that the bomb was planted a day earlier.

moremi2008:
Says the man that lives in the hippie-land of California. Abeg sharrap jor!

+5

[quote author=oyb v1.01 link=topic=831960.msg9835091#msg9835091 date=1324864900]abeg stop highlighting your ignorance - seven pages and you still do not understand that the trains were bought and will be operated by eko rail and not lasg?[/quote]And who the hell is Eko Rail Oh gullible one?

Am so happy this news is exposed now. Lets see how much Tinubu will claim they got the trains for. Lagosians should be happy as a major loophole from which billions would have been siphoned, has been 'partly' plugged.

[quote author=oyb v1.01 link=topic=831960.msg9835043#msg9835043 date=1324863643]of course the cars by the fg wil cost more - is it not the fg of inflated contracts and secrecy?

that is if we will ever see those cars at all - they will probably rot in the ports like phcn equipment.

its because of the transparency of LASG's  process that e are having this argument in the first place[/quote]Hello! but the FG locomotives (like Kobojunkie clarified), are already in the country and in fact, have been tested, with Nairaland as usual discussing it and taking a critical look at their condition. Or am I mistaking that particular post for something else?

With this damning article, the cars purchased by FG may actually be newer than the ones Fashola/Tinubu are bringing to Lagos. Now we know they wont cost more than 1,500 dollars each, lets watch out and see how much they will claim they bought them for. We will help them publicize the information for them.

I read that statement in the news and I have been so depressed since then. I am currently in a state of severe depression stemming from the fact that I voted him and supported him. I am asking myself, where did I go wrong? I usually make good choices and decisions in things like this. I have been on a rant since I read this in the news. I am hurting seriously. I know that all hope is from God but God uses a man to carry out his will and rule. So where is this man? GEJ's words depress me.

I think its high time Nigerians put an end to the deception that is going on at Facebook where some dude is making 'official' statements on behalf of the president.

This is serious because Nigerians make contributions and comments on those updates hoping that their president reads them and makes ammends to issues but its obvious he doesnt because if he did, things would have been done differently.

There is no point in setting up a Facebook page and claiming to allow Nigerians reach him on that platform when in truth, he doesnt read any of those comments. Its been said that that Social Media platform, is handled by some dude contracted to make posts on GEJ's behalf.
That page has become a source of irritation for many Nigerians, as useless and inconsequential updates(like casava bread update and welcoming a friend to facebook) are made on that page while serious matters like National security are neglected or ignored.

I believe the president is accountable to the Nation so anything that is designated as an 'official' means of information dissemination, must be subjected to scrutiny to determine if its a waste of our time and resources(yes this can be argued). And yes, I believe money was paid to contract that dude to handle the Social Media platforms for GEJ.


_{As some of you must have deduced, am totally piss'ed right now so am on a rant, howbeit a valid one. This president must be pro-active and be seen to be. Am beginning to regret all the support I gave this man.}

Realities of the tolling system and the financial burden on people. I maintain that the tolling amount and system is too expensive.

Please read through the article before commenting on it. The lawyer there made some very valid and salient points.

http://www.vanguardngr.com/2011/12/lagos-toll-how-we-have-been-marginalised-residents-in-lekki/

Realities of the tolling system and the financial burden on people. I maintain that the tolling amount and system is too expensive.

Please read through the article before commenting on it. The lawyer there made some very valid and salient points.

http://www.vanguardngr.com/2011/12/lagos-toll-how-we-have-been-marginalised-residents-in-lekki/

Realities of the tolling system and the financial burden on people. I maintain that the tolling amount and system is too expensive.

Please read through the article before commenting on it. The lawyer there made some very valid and salient points.

http://www.vanguardngr.com/2011/12/lagos-toll-how-we-have-been-marginalised-residents-in-lekki/

So far, I have not seen any other person with a different network with this complaint. It has been MTN all through with every victim here.

[quote author=m-ployer link=topic=831154.msg9829158#msg9829158 date=1324751178]@OP  there are networks in Nigeria that give  bonus for received calls. I believe the premium numbers talked about are such numbers where the owner of the line gets some bonus for receiving calls: in this case a higher percentage![/quote]The issue here is that if all the people that have been victims of this scam are using one network, then there is a case against the said network. Even if a network gives you a bonus for received calls, like Etisalat does(am not sure MTN has that), they dont just siphone all the money from the callers account whether its premium number like you suggested or not.
Secondly, the system that dnative suggested, operates under a totally different system, country and codes, so there is no way a local network can(or should) allow that as it doesnt benefit the local network in anyway.

Please lets get to the bottom(or at least half way) of this.

The people that got this message, I would like to know what network you guys are using? If its all one network like MTN, then there is a case against MTN. That means they should be held liable as it must be an inside job. Its their Network and it should be secure enough to prevent random people from siphoning people's credit illegally.

Please lets know the prevalent Network that has had this problem. This is serious

Tuface denies signing any contract with Akon


http://www.vanguardngr.com/2011/12/tuface-denies-akon/