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QuinQ:
LIE.
Show where it says so. When has that prophesy been fulfilled?

QuinQ:
Not relevant to the discussion . Here it is

Who has believed our message
and to whom has the arm of the Lord been revealed?
2 He grew up before him like a tender shoot,
and like a root out of dry ground.
He had no beauty or majesty to attract us to him,
nothing in his appearance that we should desire him.

QuinQ:
sonmvayina what do you say to this? And while at it also tell us HOW this below was talking of Israel and not Jesus!

Isaiah 53
4 Surely he took up our pain
and bore our suffering,
yet we considered him punished by God,
stricken by him, and afflicted.
5 But he was pierced for our transgressions,
he was crushed for our iniquities;
the punishment that brought us peace was on him, and by his wounds we are healed.
6 We all, like sheep, have gone astray,
each of us has turned to our own way;
and the Lord has laid on him
the iniquity of us all.

7 He was oppressed and afflicted,
yet he did not open his mouth;
he was led like a lamb to the slaughter,
and as a sheep before its shearers is silent,
so he did not open his mouth.
8 By oppression and judgment he was taken away.
Yet who of his generation protested?
For he was cut off from the land of the living;
for the transgression of my people he was punished.
9 He was assigned a grave with the wicked,
y and with the rich in his death,
though he had done no violence,
nor was any deceit in his mouth.

10 Yet it was the Lord’s will to crush him and cause him to suffer,
and though the Lord makes his life an offering for sin,
he will see his offspring and prolong his days,
and the will of the Lord will prosper in his hand.

QuinQ:
Here is Isaiah 53 verbatim:

He was despised and rejected by mankind,
a man of suffering, and familiar with pain.
Like one from whom people hide their faces
he was despised, and we held him in low esteem.

4 Surely he took up our pain
and bore our suffering,
yet we considered him punished by God,
stricken by him, and afflicted.
5 But he was pierced for our transgressions,
he was crushed for our iniquities;
the punishment that brought us peace was on him, and by his wounds we are healed.
6 We all, like sheep, have gone astray,
each of us has turned to our own way;
and the Lord has laid on him
the iniquity of us all.

7 He was oppressed and afflicted,
yet he did not open his mouth;
he was led like a lamb to the slaughter,
and as a sheep before its shearers is silent,
so he did not open his mouth.
8 By oppression[a] and judgment he was taken away.
Yet who of his generation protested?
For he was cut off from the land of the living;
for the transgression of my people he was punished.
9 He was assigned a grave with the wicked,
and with the rich in his death,
though he had done no violence,
nor was any deceit in his mouth.

10 Yet it was the Lord’s will to crush him and cause him to suffer,
and though the Lord makes[c] his life an offering for sin,
he will see his offspring and prolong his days,
and the will of the Lord will prosper in his hand.

QuinQ:
Are you ok? Was Rome occupying a part of anything? Were they not ruling almost all the world?

QuinQ:
Delulu. You were given two complementary chapters Leviticus 16 and Isaiah 53

MaxInDHouse:
I never expected you to become one of Jehovah's Witnesses because there is one quality that's found in each person who becomes one of us and from the experience i have had with you that quality is far from you.
So my response to you is for prospective JWs who are searching for the only true Christian organization not just every Dick and Harry because faith on its own is not a possession of all kinds of people! 2Thessalonians 3:2🙂

The prophecies about the Messiah started right in the garden of Eden after Adam's rebellion.

@ Genesis 3:15 God told Satan that a child will be born who will destroy all the works of Satan! 1John 3:8

@ Genesis 49:10 Jacob prophesied that rulership will not depart from Judah until Shiloh comes and to him the obedience of all the people will belong! Philippians 2:10

@ Deuteronomy 18:18 God promised to raise a prophet/god like Moses {Exodus 7:1} among the Israelites {Isaiah 9:6; John 1:1} and whoever disobey him will be cut off from among the living! John 3:16

@ Isaiah 14:12 it was revealed that a virgin will become pregnant and give birth to a baby boy whose name will be called Immanuel which means "with us if God" Jesus was born of a virgin and he served as God performing great miracles even greater than what Moses who was first called God did in his lifetime. Exodus 7:1

@ Daniel 9:26 It was revealed that the Christ (Messiah) will be killed with no property left for himself this happened to Jesus of Nazareth as the last thing he had on him was taken away! John 19:23-24

@ Daniel 12:1-3 it was revealed that Michael who is standing for the salvation of God's people will come and do so many things which Jesus did in his three years of ministry.

@ Joel 2:28-30 God promised to put His spirit on many believers and lots of wonderful things will happen this was fulfilled few days after Jesus was raised from the dead showing that what God promised has been granted! Act 2:16-18

@ Isaiah 2:2-4 & Micah 4:1-3 God promised to unite faithful people throughout the world and make them one big and happy family of peace loving worshipers through the teachings of the Bible. Jehovah's Witnesses are fulfilling this today.

So if you don't believe that Jesus exists that's your own cup of coffee God has given enough evidence (witnesses) around you and that is what we need to see not seeing a spirit before believing that our God is working among us! Isaiah 43:10🙂

QuinQ:
Point is, they were NOT a "death cult"

QuinQ:
See below

QuinQ:
If Igbos rulled Nigeria and were beheading and persecuting Christians you wouldn't call it persecution??!

QuinQ:
Why are you emphasizing "servant"? Jesus himself described His mission as one of service, famously saying He came "to serve, and to give his life as a ransom for many".
What else are you waiting for? Who else fulfills Isaiah's prophecy??

QuinQ:
See below

QuinQ:
But they were a love group who "made up" turn the other cheek!

QuinQ:
If Igbos were rulling Nigeria and beheading Christians and banning their religion, YES!

MaxInDHouse:
God never completed all the prophecies about the Messiah in any single verse so it's either you accept it in parts or forget about God and Messiah completely!🙂

QuinQ:
See below

QuinQ:
See below

MaxInDHouse:
So everyone you see around you whether they are obedient or disobedient are WITNESSES of God shey?🙂

MaxInDHouse:
Have you forgotten it's MaxInDHouse?

I know you always reject the Greek Scriptures (Nee Testament) so i can't quote what you despise as evidence nah instead i will continue to hammer you with the Hebrew/Aramaic Scriptures (Old Testament) to make you see why we JEHOVAH'S WITNESSES believe in Jesus of Nazareth!

MaxInDHouse:
So in a nutshell God's people are WITNESSES of Him due to their united obedience to His laws shey?

Why not insist on seeing Him before believing instead of humbly accepting God's presence in the midst of His obedient worshipers?

Ọmọ the evidence Jesus gave whoever wants to know him is the activities of his disciples globally. Act 18

Whatever was written about the founder of Mercedes Benz is not equal to the cars you are seeing all around the world!

QuinQ:
Amazing that a thinking human being actually believes this is the reason Christians use cross!

MaxInDHouse:
Guy this post is not meant for you o!🤣

QuinQ:
Active in people's lives and demons flee at mere mention of His name, and countess miracles attributed to him. The era is still comming and commingbof Jesus was prelude to it

MaxInDHouse:
Your grievances against me shouldn't be this obvious to everyone at least i never insulted anyone like your other friend. We true Christians keeps stubborn unbelievers in suspense. Sonmvayina will do everything to get a response from me because he knew how powerful my comments are.
So try to be respectful in your comments next time no faithful one is here to insult others for their comments.


There were two people before Jesus who tried to make themselves relevant in the first century {Act 5:36-37} Jesus himself spoke of those who have come claiming they are the Messiah! John 10:8

QuinQ:
It never remotely occurs to you that they were indeed following a crucified person and the cross is the symbol of that crucifixion??
Again, what us meaning of "death cult"?

MaxInDHouse:
Now it's clear that you neither believe in the Tanack nor any Scriptures!🙂

This is what the Bible God said:


"Ye are my witnesses, saith the LORD, and my servant whom I have chosen: that ye may know and believe me, and understand that I am he: before me there was no God formed, neither shall there be after me. Isaiah 43:10

Please according to this verse did God say His worshipers will see Him or it's their activities as they are unitedly doing His will that will serve as EVIDENCE that He is WORKING among them?🙂

QuinQ:
One is alive and active today and being worshipped as God and His words never forgotten - exactly as He foretold

You were told to give examples of people willing to be tortured and die for a mythical character they created/quote]
you are very funny oh, Are those not part of the stories Christian tell to deceive people. None of those things happened. if at all, it was Christians that was doing the persecution and killing people for not believing. Any story about Christians dying for Jesus are all 100% lies and forgery.


[quote]How do you know? All other Jesus's and crucifixions were real except Christian Jesus!

Death cult, meaning what? Why did they adopt the cross?

so they never persecuted Christians?

Eusebius was born long after the texts were written. See below

People don't get willing to be tortured and die for a character they made up. As you were told, Achebe would not die for his fictional Okonkwo

MaxInDHouse:
YES!

Regarding evidence that Jesus once lived on this planet he said:

"But you will receive power when the holy spirit comes upon you, and you will be witnesses of me in Jerusalem, in all Ju·deʹa and Sa·marʹi·a, and to the most distant part of the earth.” Act 1:8

Have you heard of Jehovah's Witnesses?

That is the undeniable evidence that Jesus once walked this planet not what is written in books.

There has never been and there will never be any ruler whose subjects are unitedly and actively doing what he commanded them throughout the globe like Jesus' true disciples!

QuinQ:
So you do accept that Jesus did indeed exist. Your only problem is with things like zombie apocalypse?
Again, why would they adopt the cross symbol for no reason while it was a symbol of shameful death?

QuinQ:
So WHY was Apolinus creating Paul and his elaborate missionary travels and letters to various churches? Have you ever read NT?
You've already been told about Constantine.
Do you read history at all?

MaxInDHouse:
Because he is God's only begotten Son!🙂

kingxsamz:
Cus the nigga was just an ordinary person who wasn't that important.