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Christianity Etc › Re: At Death, Are We Judged Immediately Or Will Judgement Come After Resurrection? by sonmvayina(m): 10:52am On Dec 01, 2025

Truthseeker10:
Kindly show me where God referred to man by saying "for spirit thou art" in those verses that you quoted.

Are these men standing up there? They are made from dust
"For dust are they".....do they qualify as men? If not why??

Christianity Etc › Re: At Death, Are We Judged Immediately Or Will Judgement Come After Resurrection? by sonmvayina(m): 10:43am On Dec 01, 2025

Truthseeker10:
Kindly show me where God referred to man by saying "for spirit thou art" in those verses that you quoted.

Ok boy, let's leave it like that......run along now

Is this a man.it is made of hardenEd dust. Is this a man or not? I need an answer.

Christianity Etc › Re: Babylon, The Prostitute On The Beast by sonmvayina(m): 2:06pm On Nov 30, 2025

The pro.stitute is Inanna/Ishtar the mistress of both man and gods..

Christianity Etc › Re: At Death, Are We Judged Immediately Or Will Judgement Come After Resurrection? by sonmvayina(m): 2:03pm On Nov 30, 2025

gohf:
but are you a spirit or a soul?

We are all souls...
Souls= body made of dust from the earth + spirit from the source (our creator).

When our number is up, The spirit returns to God who gave it and we just bury the body after some ceremonies in the ground 6ft, for it to return to earth.

When God sends his spirit humans are created and renews the face of the earth.

Christianity Etc › Re: At Death, Are We Judged Immediately Or Will Judgement Come After Resurrection? by sonmvayina(m): 1:58pm On Nov 30, 2025

Truthseeker10:
oga man is dust as shown in Genesis 3:19.

King James Bible
In the sweat of thy face shalt thou eat bread, till thou return unto the ground; for out of it wast thou taken: for dust thou art, and unto dust shalt thou return

Kindly highlight a verse in the bible where God refers to man by saying "for spirit thou art".

Hahahahahahahahhaa
What about Ecclesiastes 12:7
?

How do you explain it ?

How do you also explain psalm 104:29-31?

Christianity Etc › Re: The Awaken Soul (TAS) by sonmvayina(m): 1:56pm On Nov 30, 2025

ALL THINGS ARISE IN PAIRS

1. All things arise in pairs.

Every form, force, and phenomenon exists because it has a complementary opposite. Hot, cold...dark, light...up, down.
Without duality, nothing could appear.

2. Existence has two realms.

There is the magnetic realm of form - space, time, matter, motion.
And there is the dielectric realm of essence - timeless, spaceless, still, conscious. This is a perfect duality. The opposite of magnetism is dielectricity.

3. Mind belongs to the realm of essence, not the realm of form, and therefore it is not found inside the brain.

The world we see is made of matter, space, and time, but consciousness arises from a deeper, timeless field - the still, dielectric nature traditionally called The All.

The brain does not create thought; it receives and shapes it, acting as a lens or instrument for a Mind that exists beyond physical structure. This is why no dissection reveals a thought, a memory, or the self.

Neurons can be mapped, but consciousness cannot be located, because it does not reside in tissue. Thoughts are not objects, memories are not stored like files, and identity cannot be found in matter.

The brain is the translator, not the source. Mind is fundamental, emerging from counterspace - the inward, infinite realm from which all experience arises - and matter is the secondary phenomenon.

Thus the ancients were right: consciousness does not come from the body; the body comes from consciousness.

4. From Dielectric Mind Comes the Dance of Forces

The realm of Mind is dielectric - a still, infinite presence without motion or division. It is pure potential, the silent Source behind all things. But even stillness contains the possibility of expression.

When the dielectric Mind stirs within itself, it releases a living current. This discharge is Magnetism. Magnetism is the dynamic, outward-flowing pulse of the One. It is movement, expansion, and expression.

Where dielectricity is stillness, magnetism is motion. Where dielectricity is unity, magnetism generates polarity. Where dielectricity is the unconditioned All, magnetism is its first breath.

5. Electricity and Light Are Born From Their Union

When the dielectric (stillness) and magnetic (motion) interact, a third phenomenon appears: Electricity - the boundary between the two realms.

Electricity is the tension, the interface, the shimmering edge where unity and duality meet. And from this tension emerges: Light - the visible ripple of Mind expressing itself through motion.

Light is not a substance. It is a process - the rhythm created when stillness and motion intertwine. Thus the entire ladder of creation proceeds: Dielectric Mind - the silent, infinite Source; Magnetic Discharge - the dynamic expression of the Source; Electric Interface - the boundary where form begins; Light - the moving pattern of consciousness; Matter - light held in stable form.

This is the foundation of the world.

~ Gemini Nasri Banura

Christianity Etc › Re: At Death, Are We Judged Immediately Or Will Judgement Come After Resurrection? by sonmvayina(m): 5:39pm On Nov 28, 2025

Truthseeker10:
So in all of these, where is it said that man is spirit?

Then man is what? If not spirit living in a body made of dust. ? You tell me....

Christianity Etc › Re: At Death, Are We Judged Immediately Or Will Judgement Come After Resurrection? by sonmvayina(m): 9:24pm On Nov 26, 2025

Truthseeker10:
oga you are going back in circles because you are failing.....God Clearly said that "man is mortal" where did God say that "man is spirit" in that verse?

I have dropped the complete one, my fingers mistakenly pressed "submit"

Christianity Etc › Re: At Death, Are We Judged Immediately Or Will Judgement Come After Resurrection? by sonmvayina(m): 9:22pm On Nov 26, 2025

Truthseeker10:
Oga bring the better translation here.....where does the Bible teach that "man is a spirit"? Does the verses that you quoted above says that "man is a spirit"? If yes, bring the statement out here.

Let us look at the three passages I dropped. Genesis 6:1-6, let's look at the verse 3,

it says
"Then the Lord said, “People are only human. I will not let my Spirit be troubled by them forever. I will let them live only 120 years.”

Now let us consider Ecclesiastes 12:7 which says

7And the dust returns to the earth as it was, and the spirit returns to God, Who gave it.

And finally psalm 104:29-31, with emphasis on 30
29 Thou hidest thy face, they are troubled: thou takest away their breath, they die, and return to their dust.

30 Thou sendest forth thy spirit, they are created: and thou renewest the face of the earth.

31 The glory of the Lord shall endure for ever: the Lord shall rejoice in his works.

Look at 29 too.
What were you able to deduct from them?
Don't ask me any questions, just try and answer me. End of it we will both learn something. Work with me.

Christianity Etc › Re: At Death, Are We Judged Immediately Or Will Judgement Come After Resurrection? by sonmvayina(m): 1:46pm On Nov 26, 2025

Truthseeker10:
Oga bring the better translation here.....where does the Bible teach that "man is a spirit"? Does the verses that you quoted above says that "man is a spirit"? If yes, bring the statement out here.

Let us look at the three passages I dropped. Genesis 6:1-6, let's look at the verse 3, it says
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Christianity Etc › Re: At Death, Are We Judged Immediately Or Will Judgement Come After Resurrection? by sonmvayina(m): 7:41pm On Nov 25, 2025

Truthseeker10:
How does the words in bold above mean "man is a spirit"?

Do you not see that God Clearly states that man is "mortal" so where did God say that "man is spirit"?

Man is mortal. It is the spirit part of man that is immortal, because it is same image and likeness as God.

See Ecclesiastes 12:7 for further clarification and psalm 104:29-31.
And a better translation for the genesis quote.

Christianity Etc › Re: An Appeal To Investigate Hidden Evidence And Harassment By Budaatum by sonmvayina(m): 7:39pm On Nov 25, 2025

FxMasterz:
I apologize. I have mixed you up with sonmvayina. Sonmvayina was the one who speaks highly of Marduk and even believes spirit wives and husbands are good for humans. Not Buda.

My apologies.

According to the Enuma Elish, which preceded the Bible by more than a thousand years says it was Marduk that slew the monster Tiamat and used her body to create heaven and earth.
After a comparative study, I discovered that the Jewish God is an equivalent of Marduk., just like it is also an equivalent of Olodumare and chineke. Same God different nomenclature.
When did I say spirit wives are good for humans. I said the best thing to do is to appease them and let them allow you enjoy your incarnation. Don't misquote me. If I did it must have been an oversight.

Christianity Etc › Re: At Death, Are We Judged Immediately Or Will Judgement Come After Resurrection? by sonmvayina(m): 8:52am On Nov 25, 2025

Truthseeker10:
So the breath that we breath is Adam?

Below is Genesis 6:1-8

Kindly show me where God said that Adam is a spirit

1Now when men began to multiply on the face of the earth and daughters were born to them, 2the sons of God saw that the daughters of men were beautiful, and they took as wives whomever they chose.

3 So the LORD said, “My Spirit will not contend with man forever,a for he is mortal; his days shall be 120 years.”

4The Nephilim were on the earth in those days—and afterward as well—when the sons of God had relations with the daughters of men. And they bore them children who became the mighty men of old, men of renown.

5Then the LORD saw that the wickedness of man was great upon the earth, and that every inclination of the thoughts of his heart was altogether evil all the time. 6And the LORD regretted that He had made man on the earth, and He was grieved in His heart. 7So the LORD said, “I will blot out man, whom I have created, from the face of the earth—every man and beast and crawling creature and bird of the air—for I am grieved that I have made them.”

Noah’s Favor with God

8Noah, however, found favor in the eyes of the LORD
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Christianity Etc › Re: At Death, Are We Judged Immediately Or Will Judgement Come After Resurrection? by sonmvayina(m): 8:52am On Nov 25, 2025

Truthseeker10:
So the breath that we breath is Adam?

Below is Genesis 6:1-8

Kindly show me where God said that Adam is a spirit

1Now when men began to multiply on the face of the earth and daughters were born to them, 2the sons of God saw that the daughters of men were beautiful, and they took as wives whomever they chose.

[b] 3 So the LORD said, “My Spirit will not contend with man forever,a for he is mortal; his days shall be 120 years.”

4The Nephilim were on the earth in those days—and afterward as well—when the sons of God had relations with the daughters of men. And they bore them children who became the mighty men of old, men of renown.

5Then the LORD saw that the wickedness of man was great upon the earth, and that every inclination of the thoughts of his heart was altogether evil all the time. 6And the LORD regretted that He had made man on the earth, and He was grieved in His heart. 7So the LORD said, “I will blot out man, whom I have created, from the face of the earth—every man and beast and crawling creature and bird of the air—for I am grieved that I have made them.”

Noah’s Favor with God

8Noah, however, found favor in the eyes of the LORD
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Christianity Etc › Re: At Death, Are We Judged Immediately Or Will Judgement Come After Resurrection? by sonmvayina(m): 8:06pm On Nov 24, 2025

blueAgent:
Adam was dust.

And God's spirit see Genesis 6:1-8

Christianity Etc › Re: At Death, Are We Judged Immediately Or Will Judgement Come After Resurrection? by sonmvayina(m): 8:03pm On Nov 24, 2025

Truthseeker10:
Explain Genesis 3:19....Did God say that Adam was God's spirit dwelling in a physical body or that Adam was dust?

Is the image of God the same as the breath of life in Genesis 2:4?

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Adam(Man) is both dust and spirit. See Genesis 6:1-8
Yes, the image and likeness of God is same as the breath of life in the creation of man.That is what brought the statue to life.

Christianity Etc › Re: Is Jesus An Angel, That Became The Son Of God? by sonmvayina(m): 6:50pm On Nov 24, 2025

blueAgent:
https://www.nairaland.com/5667107/why-there-resurrection

https://www.nairaland.com/5704487/what-goes-heaven-hell-it

I was part of those threads. This is one response that best fits you.

"that is inspired by the Holy spirit.... Seems you really don't want to learn but argue on facts you don't know...

Shalom"

Christianity Etc › Re: The Man Adam Before The Fall by sonmvayina(m): 7:36pm On Nov 23, 2025

Truthseeker10:
Where did I claim that spiderman is real? Kindly show me.

Ok prove that he is not real

I just want to show how illogical it is to ask somebody to prove a negative. When you have not shown him a positive.....he holds a position of there are no Gods. And you are asking him to prove that there are none, and you have not shown him any.....

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Christianity Etc › Re: When People Die. Where Do They Go. I Want To Know. by sonmvayina(m): 7:18pm On Nov 23, 2025

DiarisGodoo:
Ok, so how come we don't see or hear them anymore and they stop participating in things?

They ain't got the body for that anymore.

Like I said it my today's post, Everything God created exist in pairs...good and evil
Right and wrong
Ugly and beautiful
Cold and hot
Tight and loose
Physical world and spiritual world. They all exist side by side.
When one dies in the physical world he gets born in the spiritual, when one "dies" in the spiritual he is born in physical....life is a circle not a straight line. Both worlds have their own rules and regulations guarding it.
One of our own here is that we should not contact them and they don't too...
But some witches can break the barrier like the witch at Endor. It is forbidden. According to abraham in the parable of the rich man and Lazarus, there is a big vault between both.worlds.

Christianity Etc › Re: The Man Adam Before The Fall by sonmvayina(m): 7:10pm On Nov 23, 2025

Truthseeker10:
Where did I claim that he never existed?

So spiderman is real then.
Buda leave this guy alone.

Christianity Etc › Re: When People Die. Where Do They Go. I Want To Know. by sonmvayina(m): 3:59pm On Nov 23, 2025

They don't go anywhere.
Death is an illusion.

Christianity Etc › Re: Just Know That You Are A Pagan If You Still Practice Traditions Like These by sonmvayina(m): 3:56pm On Nov 23, 2025

Dtruthspeaker:
Of course you would like it, after all he is an atheist like you.

Hahahaha

I am not an atheist. I know what God is and is not. I have the knowledge of God, not belief or faith.

Christianity Etc › Re: At Death, Are We Judged Immediately Or Will Judgement Come After Resurrection? by sonmvayina(m): 3:54pm On Nov 23, 2025

tctrills:
I don't see why I disagree with you

Say something.or ask questions for clarification.

Christianity Etc › Re: At Death, Are We Judged Immediately Or Will Judgement Come After Resurrection? by sonmvayina(m): 2:52pm On Nov 23, 2025

tctrills:
You are not getting my question.
Ecclesiastes 12:7 states, "Then shall the dust return to the earth as it was: and the spirit shall return unto God who gave it.
So my question is, when you mentioned imprisonment, are you calling the return to God imprisonment?

This is the exact same question I asked BlueAgent, and he has not answered. Now he is saying I should go to another thread to find out.
Don't mind them, man is God's spirit dwelling within a physical body made from dust of the earth. When the spirit enters the body it becomes a living soul.
So Body + spirit= living soul(man).
At death the soul is split, the body is buried for it to become one with the earth and the spirit returns to God who owns it. (FYI: the spirit is pure and does not need to be saved from anything). Most times when the Tanakh speaks of salvation it is always from physical danger.
BUT,
My own additional information.
The spirit that God sends to the body (psalm 104:29-31) is the same image and likeness as God, just as the body is the same image and likeness as the earth. Therefore it is safe to say we are God's having a human experience. Or how I love to put it. Man is the form through which God experiences his creation in multiple ways.

Christianity Etc › Re: The Man Adam Before The Fall by sonmvayina(m): 2:39pm On Nov 23, 2025

God is just personification of consciousness.
The universal divine consciousness. Not a bearded Jewish man up in the sky.
Then the lower case G, are the personification of the laws and principles of life....what the yorubas call orishas.

Nothing more.

Christianity Etc › Re: The Man Adam Before The Fall by sonmvayina(m): 1:07pm On Nov 23, 2025

Did Adam(Man) fall? Fall from where to where ?
The story is about man being introduced to one of the principles governing the universe. That is the principle of duality(polarity). It simply means that everything God created exist in pairs i.e in twos.
If man you enjoys birth...surely he would experience death.
Some die as soon as their born, some after 100+ years. But ultimately death is sure.
Same goes for hot and cold
Up and down
Beautiful and ugly
Fast and slow
Big preeq and small preeq
Wide and tight
Open and closed
Etc.
There is no Satan anywhere. The serpent was just part of a story nothing more. It simply means to beguile, and we all know where it starts from.

Christianity Etc › Re: The Man Adam Before The Fall by sonmvayina(m): 1:00pm On Nov 23, 2025

Truthseeker10:
Did I claim that he existed?

No you did not. I am asking you to prove he never existed.

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Christianity Etc › Re: Just Know That You Are A Pagan If You Still Practice Traditions Like These by sonmvayina(m): 12:48pm On Nov 23, 2025

LoneSoldier:
Foolish man, nobody on this forum takes your posts serious.... Because of the so many junks written on it....!

Improve, this 2025 .... Don't be such a dullard in 21st century.....🧏

Dtruthspeaker, wao.. I never even knew somebody wrote this about you. Why were you all over me as if it was just only me that noticed it.
Almost everybody knows.

Happy Sunday sha

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Christianity Etc › Re: Is Jesus An Angel, That Became The Son Of God? by sonmvayina(m): 10:56pm On Nov 22, 2025

blueAgent:
Go through my thread, I have written a topic on Soul and spirit and what they mean in the Bible.

Kindly go through them.
Thanks

Just say something here. I can't start doing that now. For the sake of this thread.

Christianity Etc › Re: The Man Adam Before The Fall by sonmvayina(m): 10:52pm On Nov 22, 2025

Truthseeker10:
Lol...So your knowledge is in your head only and not a universal knowledge of fact? Wow...enjoy chatgpt again.

Can you prove that spiderman don't exist?

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Christianity Etc › Re: Is Jesus An Angel, That Became The Son Of God? by sonmvayina(m): 5:28pm On Nov 22, 2025

blueAgent:
Gosh!!!!
I don laugh tire .

Bible don suffer.

Guy abeg go and rest your brain, you need it

You did not even try to make a counter contribution? What is your own take?
See what psalm 104 :29-31 said

29 When you hide your face,
they are terrified;
when you take away their breath,
they die and return to the dust.
30 When you send your Spirit,
they are created,
and you renew the face of the ground.

31 May the glory of the Lord endure forever;
may the Lord rejoice in his works
Make an input, people are following.

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