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Immanuel was isaiah's second son. The son was a sign for king Ahaz, it was an assurance for king Ahaz,that his kingdom will survive the threat posed by Syria and the northern kingdom..

It has got nothing to do with Jesus.

The so called virgin was isaiahs wife, she was impregnated by Isaiah himself.
If you continue to read, Isaiah 8:18 says " I and the sons the lord has given me, we are for signs and potents for the children of Israel...

No Jesus.


https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=B0aAdoHXBgc

cornelboy:
Jesus existed, died, resurrected and ascended to heaven. Jehovah will save mankind through him, as many as are willing to exercise faith in Christ Jesus.

You did not address my questions.

cornelboy:
I'm a christian, i believe the NT as well as the Torah

The NT contradicts the Torah.. it can't be from God..

cornelboy:
What did you mean?

God laws says if we sin, confess and forsake ; He will forgive. there was never a time he said was going to send his son as a sin sacrifice. Where did Paul and co get the idea from?

MaxInDHouse:
In what book do you believe?

My life is the best book..

cornelboy:
I'm a christian, i believe the NT as well as the Torah

Noo.. this is just your opinion

MaxInDHouse:
Due to your orientation you're getting things all wrong here my friend.
Jesus came to PREACH and TEACH not to force God's laws on people who already knew it.
So Christianity is not about deciding for you what you must do but guiding you and allowing you to choose for yourself!

To teach what.?

Has God not set everything out inhis Torah?

cornelboy:
Jesus existed, died, resurrected and ascended to heaven. Jehovah will save mankind through him, as many as are willing to exercise faith in Christ Jesus.

Where did you get this idea from?

It is not in the Tanakh.

God can never be a man...

Man is dust

To even think so is insulting to the creator of heaven and earth. God is the creator. He can't be part of creation..He is outside of space and time..

Jesus ( if at all he existed which I strongly doubt) can't be God...

A mamzer at best...

Ochelyko1:
Lolz you are funny well probably maybe you should rewrite the Bible ok! You are not the first and u can't be the last. The word of God is yea and Amen. Jesus said heaven and Earth may pass away but my word will never.

So my brother I will advice you live your life Holy, righteous and in the ways of the Lord. The coming of the Lord can't be know by any body even the Bible say that is only God dat knows when Christ will come again.

The End is not yet come because the Gospel of the kingdom had not been preach all over the world. That's what will bring the coming of Jesus is that too difficult for u to see?

They are some countries even here in Africa whom have not hear the Gospel of Christ. And as the Bible say the famine have not even started. The tribulations have not started. The man of lawlessness have not been revealed so they are alot that still need to be done so relax bro and girl what ever you are. U are not wiser than those who wrote the Bible.

Have you ever really considered the fact that it might just be a lie?

That the author was just writting a fictional story..

killyaselfie:
True! The omenani is like festering shit next to the beautiful, perfect, great, ideal Torah.

You are not well


Please seek psychiatric help.

I will pay for it..

Most people who read those gospel stories do so from the point of the reader rather than the speaker.

Jesus was talking to his disciples not you, the reader.

So they are the ones meant to witness those events. Not you that is reading it 2000+ years later..even Paul thought it was going to be imminent. Well , this is 2000 years no sign of heavenly invasion.

So in Charlie boys voice " our mumu don do"

cornelboy:
I'm just saying bro.
The Koran itself is a prove that Mohammed is the source of his supposed revelation.

Ok...I guess so too...

The jews have been saying that Jesus has got nothing to do with their beliefs and their God. That their prophet never prophesied that God will impregnate another man's wife to sire a son, that will usher in the new covenant.

What if Jesus is a son of lucifer?
That wants to elevate her thron above God, and she decided to do that by having a son. And passing him off as the "son of god"

What if Mary is lucifer, one of her title in the litany of the blessed virgin Mary is "morning star" what if the truth has been hidden in plain sight?

What if a lot of people looking for the light are blinded by the light.


What if the Jesus story has always been about the queen of heaven(lucifer)

Would you know??

MaxInDHouse:
Just go out there and format Jesus from the brains and hearts of lovers of that name!

The people who created him are on the verge of doing that...

Project blue beam

It's coming soon. They failed with thie covid brouhaha...

They want to simulate a fake alien invasion..

cornelboy:
Even if he's bringing a law, it should be something more perfect not what's an abomination to YHWH GOD.

Have you ever seen a law that is more beautiful and perfect than the Torah?

NNTR:
Your argument has no legs to stand on and what you korokoro see, is a mirage, an optical illusion so to speak

God unequivocally condemns human being burnt offering sacrifice made to Him and because Jephthah knows this, he did not made a vow to burn any human being

_{Personal text: Jesus is not a theologian. He is God who told stories.}

Was he commended by God for burning his daughter. ? No he was not. He did it anyway...

This event took place when the jews were trying to settle down as a nation. Everybody was doing whatever they liked. Both good and evil. He made a vow that letter cost him his happiness. He has to sacrifice his own daughter. He did, but it is an abomination in God's eyes...The story teller is telling us that is it stuupid and as such we should desit from it..

So the message I'm the story is that we should trust in our strength and desist from making vows or promises that will cost us our happiness...

Prophets are people ordained by God to be his mouth peace.. There main job is to lead people back to God by encouraging them to keep God's laws. Any body coming to change the laws in the slightest way is not of God.

I personally think Allah corresponds to the moon god Nanna. There is no other deity that fits him...I might be wrong though.

Yes oh..

Paul's opinions..

MaxInDHouse:
To humans, killing is the worst type of crime but to God all sin is crimes so what really matters to the Creator is the criminal himself/herself:
Is he/she willing to change?
The ability to change and make a U-turn is in the Good News about Babatunde of ijebu ode
So once the criminal decides to accept Jesus as King all his/her sins will be wiped out and he/she has become a new creature before the true God.

Now this will really confuse many most especially misinformed religionists and atheists because they don't know God's will.

Well God's will is that people of all sort become obedient to his righteous standard and live together in peace {Isaiah 2:2-4; Micah 4:1-3} during the times people don't know this plan they may have different line of thought regarding God's will for mankind, some may feel that God just want some to dominate others the way it is now {Ecclesiastes 4:1; 8:9} but God doesn't want imperfect humans to rule over imperfect humans because it's not in their capability to judge rightly! Jeremiah 10:23

So God has chosen a righteous King who will not look at anyone's face before judging even his own mother is not as important to him as those willing to submit to his righteous rule! Matthew 12:46-50

He will destroy all these people forcefully ruling and dominating innocent people worldwide and his government will rule forever! Daniel 2:44

So all those who has been murdered during the time we don't understand God's will Jesus will bring them back to life when death or expiring dates will be no more! John 5:28-29
Only unrepentant evildoers will loose out because Jesus won't force his government into anyone's brains it's either you willingly submit to his rule or you're deleted from his domain! Luke 19:27
Therefore no matter your past deeds if you have reasoned along with him and decided to live under his righteous government Jesus will give you a honorary citizenship under his government in Paradise on earth! Luke 23:43

How does this sound?

God is the universal divine consciousness....personified.


He is within all of us.
We are all one spirit of God experiencing the universe in multiple ways...as humans.

At the end everything will dissolve into its earliest form...spirit and maintain the singularly..

thesolutions:
Does it mean that God has a law he has to obey and who or what judges "it" if "it" fail to keep the law since you as a god/spirit being has to live by laws made by an "it" God. If your spirit returns to the"it"God when you die wether you do good or bad, why needing to live by laws from the "it"God or will the spirit miss the target of joining the body of the"it"God?

The laws are needed for us to live in peace and harmony to prevent chaos.. as per judgement that is why each country has a functional justice department with judges of high repute. If anyone falls fowl of the law the judges has power to order the death penalty depending on the crime.
Judgment is only for the living....

thesolutions:
The God you believe in. Did he send you? How are you communicating with him? Hope it is no by chanting psalms.

God is within me....

We are all Gods/spiritual beings having a human experience...
Hence the need of the laws so that we will know who we are and live in peace.
At death, our spirit returns to God and becomes one with it while our body returns to earth and turns to dust. And becomes one with it...

I don't know how else to communicate it to you. It is not rocket science before..

thesolutions:
This frustration is what you get when you send yourself. If you believe in God, allow Him to send you with this message. Unfortunately, you can't claim being sent by God but by the ego of what you think you know. Cultist way.

Which God? 5he creator of heaven and earth or the man that was nailed to a cross?..

So I will be clear ?

Just got this from Facebook..

The guy is here too...

thesolutions:
It is no longer the Romans but the Romans/Greek

So they also fabricated the sites in Israel of Jesus journey. They also fabricated Islam that believe the non existent fake Jesus would come back. The Romans also conquered India and took the book Buddha wrote, studied it and use his philosophies to build the words of Jesus. They must have being the originator of Oduduwa, Sango and Amadioha myth too.

Your case is beyond redemption...

Just believe whatever you want..

hupernikao:
Well like I said, are you open to discuss and can spend time to explain your point. The issue you are raising require proper and extensive discussion.

Like you said. Who did God reveal this to.

Actual to all the prophets, everyone. Non excluded. Every prophets upon whom the spirit of God has worked through said this.

Revelation 19:10 explained
The testimony of Christ (the witness) is the spirit upon the prophets.

Hence we can intelligently find how they all spoke of these.

And I hope you will be ready too to explore the new testament as your base argument is from it.

You did not answer any of my question. You just kept beating about the bush. Tell me two old testament prophet that God reveal this to...just give me two old testament quotes....end of story.

thesolutions:
so you are saying there were two different mythological fake Jesus or the Romans saw the existence of a fake Jesus and then used him to create the Jewish Jesus to keep the Jews waiting for a messiah.

No..there was never any Jesus at all. He was written into existence by the romans/Greeks.

They drew inspiration from the different tales or mythology of different characters to create their super hero. ..

They are many words of budha that where put in Jesus mouth..

The jews don't have God mating with humans as part of their belief system

Those belongs to romnn/Greek mythology.

For the problem of sin, god already gave a solution to it. Confess and forsake..he will forgive. No mention of human or God sacrifice. It is an abomination in Judaism..

Steep:
stop replying those people focus on your thread.
The old testament was to lead the jews to Jesus christ. The old testament where symbols of what is to come.

Explain with two examples so it becomes clear.

The jews don't have a new covenant. The supposed new covenant was a renewal of the same old...

thesolutions:
so, the idol Jesus, was it a myth as in no one called Jesus ever existed or was there someone at that time called Jesus that this myth was all about.

It was based on different mythological figures...

thesolutions:
Is Jesus an Idol?

Yes, he is an idol.

God's commandment is " Do not make the image or likeness of anything in heaven or on earth or under the waters below the earth, do not bow down to them or serve them.

Jesus is supposed to be a man something that is found on earth...