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No derailing of the post..

Which of the properties of the Messiah in Judaism or as contained in the old testament did Jesus fulfil ?

If none, who the hell is Jesus and who is Mathew, Mark Luke, John and Paul get the idea from ?

Clearly they are not telling us an eye witness account. They did not tell us how they got the story and 9f they believe or not and what their belief did for them?

So many holes in the story.

MaxInDHouse:
And what's your total income annually?
Guy, don't even go there because i live and do my business in the center of excellence and to the glory of God i'm doing fine.
Common sense doesn't have anything to do with riches because it depends on times and unforseen occurrences! Ecclesiastes 9:11

What we are discussing here has to do with how people think and the result when they come together. So if you're here always arguing about Jesus who has millions of disciples WORKING for him by preaching zealously and industriously teaching in all our neighbourhood globally, the same Jesus that is having billions of fans throughout the earth.
But you are arguing that he never existed how do you think someone like you who only have a mushroom kindergarten center in Edo state really exist?

It will all soon come to an end. The people who created the character will reveal the truth to you.. maybe then your eyes will be open. Till then just enjoy the ride...or scam.

EmmyG98:
Best nonsense I read this morning

The truth will definitely set you free, but it will first pass you off...

It is certain Jesus is not the Jewish Messiah. He did not meet any of the requirements of a Messiah.

Assuming he was, for the sake of argument, did God ever say the Messiah was coming to die for sins? NO.

MaxInDHouse:
Great!
So you have common sense yet you're here 24/7 arguing about a fictional character!

Lol...

I am the proprietor of a private nursery and primary school in benin city. I have people(teachers ) working for me....but you?

MaxInDHouse:
That's why he is controlling millions of people who are zealously preaching and industrious teaching in your neighbourhood what he taught!

It was created as an opium for the masses....and control people like you with no sense..

budaatum:
And that's why he is here spending so much time and effort discussing "just a character in a story book".

Sonmvayina, why are you spending so much time and effort discussing "just a character in a story book"? Is "just a character in a story book" compelling you?

See this patronizing dick head...


Because I say your head dey correct sometimes.

budaatum:
I do not believe anything. I do know some call him their God and I have no problem with that. He is however not the God of "Let there be Light".

So two Gods, already? One God must be getting jealous!

Sometimes your head go correct
..

Myer:
That's another perspective.
I have read from various sources that the Torah was written by Moses.
And the Synoptic gospels written by their disciples they were named after eg Matthew wrote the book of Matthew, Mark wrote the book of Mark, etc.

My question is in these books, how were they aware of the private conversations they wrote about.

They are not literal stories...they are spiritual stories...

Read it and learn the messages they contain ...

killyaselfie:
So god is a fancy way of referring to nature so people like me can know right from wrong.

You’re wrong about that because this god/nature /whatever-else you claim they speak of doesn’t determine right or wrong. So I guess people like me aren’t fooled.

If this god of the Jewish scribes is just a device to control people, why are you all over this forum advocating for this god?
Why are you claiming that it gave commandments and laws?

Advocating for what?

I only said their concept of God is similar to the igbo concept. I follow my igbo omenani. I only quote the Jewish scriptures just to let people know Jesus has got nothing to do with God of the jews and is a creation of the Roman empire...

MaxInDHouse:
But you are improving shey?

You can say that a million times and won't be wrong...

killyaselfie:
Question yours first. You are in no position to criticize anyone’s faith!!!

And stop mentioning “learning” as if you are capable of improving Max’s knowledge.

His stance towards the JWs is similar to your obsequiousness towards the Jews.

Who is this newbie?

Crawl back to where you came from...

killyaselfie:
If you did, you probably wouldn’t be here yapping and advocating for their god or any other god.

Lol..

Their stories captures reality vividly...

The letter killeth the spirit giveth life...

killyaselfie:
Duplicitous mutha…

This post above rubbishes all your arguments about your Jewish god/nature/whateverthefuck

Lol..it does not...

Hope I have not been answering a teenager?

Good is the divine consciousness....personified..

Why nor go to God directly like he commanded
..
"Do not have any other God before me"...

MaxInDHouse:
ATHEISM just a step from you, then all your self-deception will end!

You are not improving because you are not learning..

Stop being closed minded...

Learn to question your beliefs
.

killyaselfie:
At bold….figure out what it means first before lol

I did..thats why I laughed out loud.

killyaselfie:
I’m on discussion. You’re are the one using the word god and refusing to explain what you mean.

The jewish scribes or Ezra, like you said, wrote all manner of things including conversations with “god” or “nature” or the “universe” or the “heavens”, and you claim their writings include “God’s laws”.

You claim God is a fancy word for the universe and its laws are about human interaction wihh the nature.

My questions are why should we call the musings of Jewish scribes “God’s law”?

What are examples of this God’s law.
Remember, I don’t know the regular.



Instead of the convoluted statement above, why don’t you just write that we are a part of nature?

“We are all Borg experiencing Borg in myriad ways”

What is Borg?
Borg is just a fancy way of saying multiverse.

Because if it is not written God's laws, people like you can't tell the difference between right from wrong..

Yea...we are part of nature...

They are worship leaders in public but tigers in the oza room

killyaselfie:
So what if the Jewish scriptures are written in Hebrew and Aramaic.
Did the Greeks force the 70 scribes to translate the Old Testament to Greek?

The Romans adopted it because they saw the usefulness of the Jews “noble lie”.

Regardless, Hellenized jews created the gospels and Romans added and edited other useful scripts and called it the New Testament.

Still maintain ..it has got nothing to do with the jews...

At bold ...lol

killyaselfie:
Is this your definition or the Jewish scribes?
The “heavens” they speak about seems to be the celestial sphere, which they took to be a dome with affixed stars.

If god is just a fancy name for the heavens or the universe as you say, what does it have to do with Jewish scribes?






God is a fancy word for the universe and just a relation between you and nature?

Stay on discuss.

The jewish scribes wrote a story about how humans should interact with themselves and with nature..

No more ...no less

We are all God experiencing nature (God) in infinite ways..

orisa37:
A MESSIAH IS AN ANOINTED DELIVERER AND SAVIOUR.

NOAH RESCUED US FROM THE DELUGE.

MOSES LEAD THE ISRAELITES OUT OF EGYPT. JOSHUA SAVED THE ISRAELITES.

JESUS CHRIST SCATTERED THE CROSS CRISIS AND EARNED US ETERNAL LIFE.

Osinbajo WILL DELIVER NIGERIANS (NORTH, EAST AND WEST) FROM BUHARINOMICS, BOKONOMICS AND BMF-BOKOISWA.

FROM ORISAORUNTO.

How?

elated177:
Do you believe Yahushua the Messiah is God?

God is omni present

God is omni potent

God is omni science

Which of these does a man possess?


You might have to read Numbers 23:19

Amujale:
Dude cease quoting me, I don't converse with schizophrenic lying trolls.

Then you will come back later and admit that what was said is indeed factual. I'm not interested in your senseless games.

You're a schizophrenic troll, now go and troll elsewhere.

I doubt he even knows that...

MaxInDHouse:
Because he's insignificant to them since he has nothing to do with POLITICS!
I remember a time Ọbáfẹ́mi Awólọ́wọ̀ marked his birthday, a popular artist was paid to perform at the event. Olúwọlé (Awólọ́wọ̀'s) son took the artist by hand to greet bàbá.
In fact bàbá don't know the artist at all!
WHY? Because he has nothing to do with what affects bàbá's emotions: POLITICS!

Or he is just a character in a story book...

killyaselfie:
Just explain how something written by Jewish scribes and elites is ascribed to a supernatural entity.
If Jewish elites and scribes wrote the book, how is “god” involved?
What makes them god’s laws?

No, I do not know the regular.

God is just a fancy word for the universe....it is just a relation between us and nature...

killyaselfie:
So what if they were written in Greek? Didn’t they translate their Bible to Greek and call it the Septuagint?

Newton wrote the Principia Mathematica in Latin, does that mean he was Latin?

But the Jewish scriptures are all written in Hebrew or Aramaic .
The romans /Greek stole it and mistranslated it and added the new testament at the end of it to make it sellable...

killyaselfie:
“God’s law”.
Jewish scribes and elites wrote the book yet you call it gods law. What god?
The ones the Jewish scribes and elites made up?
How is something written by Jews, god’s laws.
Did this god thing materialize to affirm that those are its laws?

Lol...

I Dont know how to address your ignorance.


At least I expect you to know what every one else knows. You know, the regular.

killyaselfie:
Scriptures were already in existence before Constantine or the councils and synods that formalized the religion and influenced the editing of said scriptures.

Romans and Greeks didn’t write the scriptures. Your favorite people wrote them.

The new testament has got nothing to do with the jews....

They where all written in Greeks..

killyaselfie:
Moses never existed but the supernatural being he had dealings with in the scriptures exist?

Which is likely to have existed Moses or his god?

Do you know what an "epic" means ?


God is within us....

It is a spiritual story...not literal.

The bible is divided into two parts.

The Tanakh which comprises Genesis to Malachi. These book belongs to the jews. They were written by their scribes and elites. It is for their national religion called Judaism. The heart and soul of these is the Torah which contains God's laws.( Genesis to Deuteronomy) contrary to popular belief, the Torah was written by Ezra not Moses. Moses never existed. Ezra edited the babylonian Torah to arrive at its present form...which has remained unchanged since it was publish. They were written in Hebrew and Aramaic.
The second part called the new testament or the Christian testament is from Mathew to relegation. It was written by the Greeks and romans for the Roman empire. It was instigated by emperor Constantine who wanted a single religion for his empire. He called the presbyters to Nicea and after arguing for almost 15 years , christianity(catholic) was created as the official religion of the Roman empire..

What if