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MaxInDHouse:
The underlined is false!

At death nothing survives any creature!

Thus is where you are lost...

I have decided to get the new world translation of psalm 104: 29-31..

Read it and explain it how you understand it...

Thanks

oteneaaron:
WORD

I can only imagine how much research you must have done to dissect the history of religion as we know it today.

I am still on my path to understand the past, so I can understand how mentally draining it can be sometimes.

Your words show how much knowledge about the past you have acquired over time.

Kindly accept my sincere congratulations!!

Thanks..

I try to set them straight..

bobestman:
Why do you ask if it's possible?
Is their anything impossible with Sovereign God?
If Scientists can take a seed from a man and implant in a woman and later she conceive
If people can go to water goddesses for children and get their heart desires
If witches and wizards can do that spiritually
Even today some ladies can have s3x in dreams and become pregnant physically. People can have bad dreams and it can affect them phsically. The Spiritual controls the Physical. We are in a wicked world ruled by wicked Spirits . There is nothing they can't do.
In the Torah it was written that sons of God (fallen Angels) made mortal women pregnant and planted a corruptible seed in them - bloodline of the wicked one.
If all these are possible, can't a Sovereign God and Creator of heaven and earth bring about His own pure bloodline of incorruptible seeds?
Immaculate Conception is very possible. People can choose whatever they want to believe. What we know is that the person they call Jesus is not a pink man. He is an Afara. A black African. A NEGUS. The name Jesus has no meaning. His true name is in all your African tongues for they are the first children and from them came the Messiah

Like I always tell you all
All your Religions are all corruptions of a true and lost /forgoten Way. And
that Way will be reinstalled when all is said and done. It will swallow all your Religions. That Way is the first which shall also be the last and the only one standing when all is said and done. Whether they be Christians, Islam or Judaism, they are from one source and all are sitting on the same line on the top of a high fence waiting to fall. The truth will destroy all your Religions cos they all are founded on lies and bloodshed.

When did God say he was going to impregnate another man's wife with his seed in the old testament?

He has already told us what to do to solve the problem of sin in 2nd Chronicles 7:14.

He does not even accept human sacrifice. It is an abomination. So is it not possible that the God of Jesus is one of those demons you mentioned.?

Myer:
That's a reason.
Also his teachings were considered blasphemous to the teachings and laws of Moses.
Also he introduced new covenant.
He also would forgive people's sins as if he were God.

So considering these reasons it's difficult to blame the Pharisees and Saducees for not accepting him.

Yes..

God warned them that anybody coming 5o change his Torah should be given the Ken saro wiwa treatment..

Johnpaulokoye:
Ur statement is highly irrational
No write nonsense

Yes...the truth is bitter..

Isis
Inanna
Venus
Kali
Ishtar
Aphrodite

Are all different names of the queen of heaven before the adventure of Christianity.

So one 9f the aspect of paganism that Christianity asimulated into it is the feminine figure in religion.

So they created the assumption of Mary as one of the dogma and jesus crowned her the queen of heaven..

You know, just for convenience..keep it going and acceptable.

They are all pagan idols..

Nobody555:
John 12:31
[31]The time for judging this world has come, when Satan, the ruler of this world, will be cast out.
2 Corinthians 4:4
[4] Satan, who is the god of this world, has blinded the minds of those who don’t believe. They are unable to see the glorious light of the Good News. They don’t understand this message about the glory of Christ, who is the exact likeness of God.

Matthew 4:8-9
[8]Next the devil took him to the peak of a very high mountain and showed him all the kingdoms of the world and their glory.
[9]“I will give it all to you,” he said, “if you will kneel down and worship me.”

Satan na mad guy aswear

How did he get the rulership of the world..that is my question .

Those does verses tell you?

budaatum:
Is it true that a tortoise told all the animals to call him "All of Us"? Do you throw your Things Fall Apart in the dustbin because it isn't?

Fact is, if all you see in Harry Potter is whether "Dambuldore is the greatest sorcerer in the world in chamber of secrets" is true or not, I guess you learnt nothing from Harry Porter just as you learn nothing from reading in general, I suppose.

Your missing the whole point and confusing your self. And falling on your own sword,.
I am saying tell me the message in the story, what do I need to take from the entire story. I know okonkwo is a character created by chinua Achebe. But you quoting the words of okonkwo as if he is real is where I find you culpable...

That is my point. I read things fall apart and learn the message in the story. I don't go about quoting Okonkwo like he is an actual historical figure. He is not. Same as Jesus. He is not a historical figure. Tell me why I should read the gospel story . That is all I want from you. Stop quoting Jesus as if he is real. He is not real he is a character created by Mark.

budaatum:
Why? Of what benefit to me is your learning?

I'm happy with how you are sonm, but if you want to be taught, either pay for it or deserve it. No one here owes you an education!

Is this another way of saying "I don't know"?

budaatum:
Of what business of yours would my sexual activity be?

Your sexual attraction to men(love)..

hupernikao:
You may need to buttress your point for clarity. How does the two information you wrote contradict and how does that prove Jesus never taught Moses?

God forbid his people from going through any God to get to him. No mediator or intermediary. God wants us to come come to him directly. He is our father. We don't need any middle man. But Jesus is saying that no one cones to the father except through him. Both can't be right. It can't be same God.

Moses taught that God is one but and no body beside him, but the gospel authors are saying Jesus was with God.

Both can't be right..
Compare Isaiah 45: 1-7

45: 1 Thus saith the Lord to his anointed, to Cyrus, whose right hand I have holden, to subdue nations before him; and I will loose the loins of kings, to open before him the two leaved gates; and the gates shall not be shut;

2 I will go before thee, and make the crooked places straight: I will break in pieces the gates of brass, and cut in sunder the bars of iron:

3 And I will give thee the treasures of darkness, and hidden riches of secret places, that thou mayest know that I, the Lord, which call thee by thy name, am the God of Israel.

4 For Jacob my servant's sake, and Israel mine elect, I have even called thee by thy name: I have surnamed thee, though thou hast not known me.

5 I am the Lord, and there is none else, there is no God beside me: I girded thee, though thou hast not known me:

6 That they may know from the rising of the sun, and from the west, that there is none beside me. I am the Lord, and there is none else.

7 I form the light, and create darkness: I make peace, and create evil: I the Lord do all these things

With John 1::1-7

In the beginning was the Word, and the Word was with God, and the Word was God.

2 The same was in the beginning with God.

3 All things were made by him; and without him was not any thing made that was made.

4 In him was life; and the life was the light of men.

5 And the light shineth in darkness; and the darkness comprehended it not.

6 There was a man sent from God, whose name was John.

7 The same came for a witness, to bear witness of the Light, that all men through him might believe

MaxInDHouse:
Because the dead knows nothing, they can't love or hate, neither can they do anything afterwards! Ecclesiastes 9:5-6

So at death there's nothing like discovery!

You still don't get it? Do you...

We are spirt being dwelling within a physical body made from the DUST of the earth.. when the spirt leaves the body death occurs. ..the spirt is the real us. "Send forth YOUR spirt and they are created....take it and they die ..psalm 104:29-31..

It goes back to the spirt realm..spirit have no body to feel..and they are forbidden to interfere with what is going on ...on earth. God punish one of his prophet for conjuring the spirt of Samuel I guess.


Hope it is not over you.

Steep:
The books of Moses were not written by Moses alone. Isreal keep records of their national history, this is done by the scribes which through oral narration.

concerning the private conversation, these were gotten through oral narration, Adam and Eve would have told their children the story of their life and this would have passed on from generation to generation.

Jesus himself explained the scripture concerning himself to his disciples might have heard Jesus prayer during his passion.

Give me examples of those scriptures...please..

hupernikao:
You are the one who said this. This isn't true as per Jesus teaching.

Jesus taught exactly what Moses taught. Same scriptures. The issue were with the Pharisee.

You must understand that the problem in Jesus's days were interpretation problem not a documentation problem. Jesus never negate what Moses wrote. He only explained them. The Pharisee never negate what Moses wrote, they only had wrong interpretation.

This must be clear.

They all agreed the scriptures is true and same but interpretation was their issues. Jesus spoke Moses mind nothing else.

Observe, Jesus relied on Moses words and teaching to overcome temptation. All the scriptures Jesus quoted in temptation were Moses doctrine.

Think about that.

Duet 8:3
that man shall (C)not live by bread alone; but man lives by every word that proceeds from the mouth of the Lord.

Jesus never taught what Moses taught....

God told Moses

"I am the Lord your God who brought you out of the land of slavery and out of the house of bandage DO NOT HAVE ANY OTHER GOD BEFORE ME..

But Jesus is teaching
No one comes to the father except through me..


Conflict there already..

Myer:
Why did the Pharisees and Saducees and reject him?

He is a "nobody"...

Whatever you do for a living is what he does for a living ...

I know there can be stories within stories.. I expect you to tell me what Jesus temptation means not quoting what he said or what the devil said. The devil and Jesus does not exist, they are both creation of the author, the author never claimed to know Jesus, he does not know anybody who does. He is not connected to the story in any way. He does not tell us how the story affected him and why he decided to write it. He is far removed from the story he is telling. Why the hell should I then care? so you quoting what they said is laughable because they are mythical creations of the authors....

Teach me the messages in the story and how it will be beneficial to me. Not quoting mythical creatures..

Comprende?

budaatum:
Do you know that a lot of ancient history is mythology? Even a lot of modern history we read is mythology, or do you think early European conduct with Africa or the arrival of Europeans in America is not romanticized mythology? I'm certain you never bothered reading any because your conduct shows a lack of learning of what many myths teach.

I learn from complete made up fiction so I can't imagine not learning the lessons taught in ancient mythology, but I guess I might just be seeing more than you who "only see it as such" and thinks he's seen it all.

You are obviously not learning anything because you keep quoting their words within the story like they existed instead of telling me the message in the story.

Those words put in Jesus mouth are all ideas of the author. It does not mean it is truth or real. When Harry potter said Dambuldore is the greatest sorcerer in the world in chamber of secrets, does it mean it is truth? No. I expect you to be telling me what the whole book is all about. The message the author is trying to pass by writting the book. End of the day it might just be to entertain rather than educative or informative. That is what I know you are yet to grasp.

budaatum:
Or when the source of truth is distorted so the truth in the source is not seen then they [are] convince[d] their belief is the truth.

It is of course due to a non-acceptance of 'Christ'(Harry potter)in their lifes or their eyes will open and they will see.

Are you gay?

killyaselfie:
Freaking Schizo. Budaatum now has a mental issue when she rightly told you to remove that gigantic Jewish log stuck in your eye penetrating your brain, thereby making you a slobbering, obsequious Hebrew slave.

You just want to talk so your mouth dont smell ?

If so just be reading A B C to Z.

If you don't understand anything, just read and maintain your peace.

What is the log in my eyes ? Point it out. I will gladly remove it.

killyaselfie:
What, no Omenani? Just Jew shit as usual?

Lol...very funny
Did you watch the 4 minutes video?

The Jewish one is what I can lay my hands on now.

The igbos just like other tribes in Nigeria passed it orally.

Some people are trying to put them on paper so we don't forget it..

When I can get my hands on the igbo religious beliefs, I will send you a copy to compare..

budaatum:
Does "being impregnated by their husband or boyfriend" add to the quality of a surgeon's work? Or a plumbers? If not, why should stories about Jesus conception matter to anyone but for understanding? Is that all you see in the 4 Gospels? Mary was a virgin? Shows where your head might be, don't you think?


O! I get you. For you it is about belief, and nothing to do with you understanding?

Did they teach you Jesus Christ in your own Biology WAEC, son?

Because he is just a Roman mythology much like perseus and his flying horse...

And I only see it as such. If the writter of the story just put in some truth just to deceive people like you. I saw way pass those nuggets.

You really need to unlearn and relearn.

budaatum:
Mirror mirror on the wall.

Lol...

I am only pointing out an observation that everyone else has also recognized..

You have a mental issue.

budaatum:
I will continue to poke you until you look in a mirror.

You are senseless...

You don't know anything budaatum.


Empty vessel.
A grown ass man that believes a woman can become pregnant without a male input...
What did you get in biology WAEC?

The jman never existed..

He is a creation of the Roman empire.

Qed

https://fb.watch/aM2lhZ3Nq3/


This might help..

budaatum:
Why must he listen to you, or me? Are we his God?

And why are you such a hypocrite? You yourself are only just hearing buda for the very first time even though we have a thread for it!

Present your point, or rather, in Jesusess, cast thy seeds. Those that will wither will wither, and those that will grow will grow. Your duty is to find good seed and learn the right way to do the work of planting and growing it so it produces fruit thirtyfold, a hundredfold and more.


And that, Sonm, is the lesson of all Scripture, from Bereshit to Revelations to the Quran and beyond mere bread, and those who know this show it in their fruits. And in their seeds. And in their sowing. And in how they journey through life too.

May your journey be very very long, Sonm.

You have a mental problem. Please see a psychiatrist. Or you don't have sense at all.
You don't really know anything. Just hiding behind word salads that means nothing.

You have so much to learn. May your journey be long and perilous...

That's all I have to tell you
Either

MaxInDHouse:
I thought you often quote the Bible?
How come you don't know that at death man's memory is forgotten? Ecclesiastes 9:6, 10

Whose memory ? Forgotten by who?

The living forgets the dead..nobody talks about Abacha anymore..his breath has returned to God and his body has return to earth. Nobody remembers him anymore...

cornelboy:
I believe in God and the Bible.

But you dont understand what both means...obvious

“Lucifer” does not exist (neither does the mythical "devil".

The term "lucifer" is first found in Jerome's Latin translation (known as the Vulgate).

It stems from the Latin lucem ferre (bringer, or bearer, of light.).

The term lucem ferre was Latin for the planet Venus.

Not a devil.

Not a mythical evil being.

A planet.

Venus is very bright when it first appears in the morning sky in the east around sunrise.

Venus (lucem ferre) was mistaken for a bright star in ancient times.

Many pagans worshiped the planet (which they thought was a star) as a god or goddess (the planet Venus was worshiped as a goddess by the ancient Romans).

The Babylonians worshiped Inanna, a goddess associated with the planet Venus which at that time was regarded as two stars, the "morning star" and the "evening star."

Some Christian English translations use the word "lucifer" in their version of Y'shayahu / Isaiah 14:12 (e.g. King James Version). More modern translations, including the NIV, have "son of the dawn" which is certainly more correct.

In Hebrew the word being translated as "lucifer" or "son of the dawn" is הֵילֵל / heilél (morning star). In Y'shayahu / Isaiah the prophet uses it in a phrase as a bitingly sarcastic reference to the Babylonian king Nebuchadnezzar II and his fall:
אֵ֛יךְ נָפַ֥לְתָּ מִשָּׁמַ֖יִם הֵילֵ֣ל בֶּן־שָׁ֑חַר נִגְדַּ֣עְתָּ לָאָ֔רֶץ חוֹלֵ֖שׁ עַל־גּוֹיִֽם׃

"How you have fallen from heaven, O הֵילֵל בֶּן-שָׁחַר / Heilél ben-shachar / morning star son of the dawn..."

Heilél / הֵילֵל is translated as morning star. It is an old Hebrew name for the planet Venus when it first appeared in the morning sky.

Ben-Shachar / בֶּן-שָׁחַר is translated as son of the dawn.

"How far have you fallen from the sky (heaven) morning star (Venus), son of the dawn... You (Nebuchadnezzar) have been cast down to the earth, you who once laid low the nations!" (Y'shayahu / Isaaih 14:12).

No lucifer. No devil.

Isaiah is saying that as the Babylonian leader Nebuchadnezzar is defeated so too are his gods defeated. This defeat includes his false god -- Venus, the morning star, which many worshiped.

The word "lucifer" didn't creep into Christian translations for 400 years, but thanks to translators using that word instead of "morning star" many Christians (and far too many Jews) think it is "lucifer the devil."

As an interesting aside, the Christian bible refers to Jesus as the "morning star" in Revelations 22:16, yet I can't think of one Christian who thinks that Jesus = Lucifer.

There is no devil. There are no demi-gods. There is only One G-d and He creates everything -- including good and evil.

The word "satan" which many think is the same as lucifer and equate with a devil is a misuse of the term. In Hebrew the word שָׂטָן / “satan" simply means an adversary. In the T'nach there are human and angelic adversaries (satans)...

Humans have adversaries.

G-d does not.

There is only one G-d.

He is all powerful.

There is no devil in Judaism. There are no "demi-gods." There is only one G-d and He created good and evil. "Forming 'Light' and creating 'Darkness', making 'Peace' and creating 'Evil' - I am HaShem and I do ALL these things" Isaiah 45:7.

cornelboy:
Not believing in hell fire doesn't stop me from doing good or not believing in the one true God YHWH and Jesus Christ whom He sent as the messiah. It's essential to know both of them for our salvation.

What of you die and discover none exist and it has always been you all along..

When we are born in the physical it means we are dead in the spiritual realm and when we die in the spiritual world it means we are born in the physical world.

FYI the spiritual world is the real world.

budaatum:
buda does not believe, period.

You need to learn to tell yourself the truth, which is that you yourself do not believe in the "Creator of heaven and earth". What you believe is the book you read about a "Creator of heaven and earth".


You are the believer so you tell me what it means to you to believe in the Creator.

For me though, it would mean one does not quite know about the Creator so they merely believe instead off asking and knocking and seeking so they may know.

You can tell such people by their fruits. They'd believe they are righteous even while not loving their fellow human being and neighbours just because their neighbour does not believe what they chose to believe.

Thank you. This is what I just pointed out to him. Instead of him to listen and try to understand what he us reading. He is comfortable with "believing"

Like I said life is a journey from slavery in Egypt( spiritual ignorance) to the Promised Land.(spiritual enlightenment and knowledge..