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Christianity EtcRe: Why The Old Testament Laws and commandments Are The Best by sonmvayina(m): 5:31pm On Apr 24, 2025
MaxInDHouse:
I'm 100% sure you're still going to admire me a million times again and again so stop deceiving yourself saying LAST TIME because you can't stop admiring intelligence! wink
Intelligence keh?
Abi delusion mixed with ignorance..
Christianity EtcRe: Why The Old Testament Laws and commandments Are The Best by sonmvayina(m): 12:34pm On Apr 24, 2025
MaxInDHouse:
Present this people who has God's laws written in their hearts nah.

I present to the world the organization of Jehovah's Witnesses:



Deal with it! wink
I admire your delusion.
Every other person I know would have admitted their ignorance, but not you. You are like Nigeria always doing the wrong thing and will never accept they are on the wrong path.

For the last time, it's not about being members of a cult. It is about knowledge of God's laws and keeping it without resort to any book. Like me, there are millions of us on earth. We live among ignorant people like you...

You will learn though, the time is not far again.
Christianity EtcRe: Is Jesus The King Of The Jews | Understanding Zechariah 9 by sonmvayina(m): 7:26pm On Apr 23, 2025
Kobojunkie:
Shoo fly, don't bother me! 🙄🙄🙄🙄
Ok
Christianity EtcRe: Is Jesus The King Of The Jews | Understanding Zechariah 9 by sonmvayina(m): 6:30pm On Apr 23, 2025
Kobojunkie:
You have yet to this very day you still don't realize that the YHWH made it abundantly clear in the book that He is God only over Israel -- the very people He named Himself, chose a land for and even designed an Eternal Constitution for? Keep deceiving yourself then! When you are done, let us all know. 🙄🙄🙄🙄
This is not what we are discussing...
Show me where God said he would send his son..

I am still waiting?

Show me Jesus in the Tanakh and win a life time supply of the last thing you bought. I swear.
Christianity EtcRe: The Prophetic Significance of 17th Tammuz and Tisha B’Av by sonmvayina(m): 6:29pm On Apr 23, 2025
God does not actually rate animal sacrifice. We understand that the entire sacrificial system was set up to satisfy people, because that was the kind of god-worship they were familiar with from other surrounding cultures.

Just go to the prophets - God has no need of sacrifices, or holy days, or anything except changes in our behavior. And remember, there is nothing about sacrificing anything in the Ten Commandments, either:

Hosea 6:6 - For I delight in loyalty rather than sacrifice, And in the knowledge of God rather than burnt offerings.

1 Samuel 15:22
Samuel said, "Has the LORD as much delight in burnt offerings and sacrifices As in obeying the voice of the LORD? Behold, to obey is better than sacrifice, And to heed than the fat of rams.

Proverbs 21:3
To do righteousness and justice Is desired by the LORD more than sacrifice.

Isaiah 1:11
"What are your multiplied sacrifices to Me?" Says the LORD. "I have had enough of burnt offerings of rams And the fat of fed cattle; And I take no pleasure in the blood of bulls, lambs or goats.

Jeremiah 7:22
"For I did not speak to your fathers, or command them in the day that I brought them out of the land of Egypt, concerning burnt offerings and sacrifices.

Isaiah 58:6–76"Is this not the fast which I choose, To loosen the bonds of wickedness, To undo the bands of the yoke, And to let the oppressed go free And break every yoke? 7"Is it not to divide your bread with the hungry And bring the homeless poor into the house; When you see the naked, to cover him; And not to hide yourself from your own flesh?

Micah 6: 7–8 7 Does the LORD take delight in thousands of rams, In ten thousand rivers of oil? Shall I present my firstborn for my rebellious acts, The fruit of my body for the sin of my soul? 8 He has told you, O man, what is good; And what does the LORD require of you But to do justice, to love kindness, And to walk humbly with your God?

The notion that people can’t get forgiveness without ‘the shedding of blood’ is a CHRISTIAN teaching, not a Jewish one.
Christianity EtcRe: Is Jesus The King Of The Jews | Understanding Zechariah 9 by sonmvayina(m): 6:23pm On Apr 23, 2025
Kobojunkie:
If your plan is not to wait forever I suggest you instead take to reading the books for yourself same as I tell all the other religious nutjobs so you learn what is in fact written in it. undecided
I have..but I am not sure you have at all.
If you have, you would have provided the place where God through a prophet promised to send his son as a human sacrifice or whatever you lot believe about Jesus.

God that even hates animal sacrifice not to talk to human sacrifice which is an abomination to him.
You people should continue falling for the "God-Spel"....
Christianity EtcRe: Is Jesus The King Of The Jews | Understanding Zechariah 9 by sonmvayina(m): 5:47pm On Apr 23, 2025
Kobojunkie:
You are joking, right? You don't know what was promised but you have strong arguments against it? undecided
Quit stalling..

Give me the passages...and the prophet.
I am waiting.
Christianity EtcRe: Is Jesus The King Of The Jews | Understanding Zechariah 9 by sonmvayina(m): 5:26pm On Apr 23, 2025
Kobojunkie:
He did promise to send His Son, but you, a Nigerian, conveniently declared Him and His Prophets liars. For what purpose? huh
Please can you give us the prophet who brought this great news from God?? I am waiting.
Amos 3:7 says God does nothing without revealing it to his servants the prophet. So which prophet did he reveal Jesus to?
Tell me and win a life time supply of the last thing you bought....if not, you will remain a pauper for life...
Christianity EtcRe: What Is God's Religion? by sonmvayina(m): 5:23pm On Apr 23, 2025
God belongs to 40000+ religions.
But the creator belongs to only one religion. That is the universe, which is his shrine.
Christianity EtcRe: Why The Old Testament Laws and commandments Are The Best by sonmvayina(m): 5:15pm On Apr 23, 2025
Maximus692:
The answer is found in the rest of Isaiah's writing:

Those given that old covenant broke it that's why they can't live in harmony along with that covenant but this new one will be written in the hearts of the adherents so they will live together peacefully just as it's befitting for people who has laws written in their hearts! Isaiah 2:2-4

That is exactly what Jesus came to work out in the midst of imperfect humans and it's at work now in the gathering of true believers globally just as Isaiah and Micah prophesied, these people from different nations are living in peace and God began calling them by another group name:
JEHOVAH'S WITNESSES! Isaiah 65:15

You can't find any organized people who are living in harmony with that first covenant because it has been replaced but as for the second covenant look at JEHOVAH'S WITNESSES! John 17:22
Continue lying ....

You will surely be found out. You still have your Muslim attitude with you. Something that is so glaring, you are twisting and turning like a headless chicken.
He would write his laws in their heart....same law, but will be written in their heart...so that it becomes effortless to obey....

Continue lying..
Christianity EtcRe: Why The Old Testament Laws and commandments Are The Best by sonmvayina(m): 8:35pm On Apr 22, 2025
Maximus692:
You are dodging the simple question!

Did God promise another covenant?

YES or NO! smiley
Yes, he did.

So answer mine, what was the new covenant ?
Christianity EtcRe: Is Islam Arab Culture?. by sonmvayina(m): 7:38pm On Apr 22, 2025
Ubenedictus:
still no serapis
That's because he became jesus Christ......
Christianity EtcRe: Why The Old Testament Laws and commandments Are The Best by sonmvayina(m): 7:37pm On Apr 22, 2025
Maximus692:
Did God promise another covenant? smiley
But he also explains what he meant.....which is in line with what I stated.

It does not involve a human sacrifice or animal sacrifice for that matter.


Just his laws which is forever, he would write In their heart.

Learn, unlearn and relearn.
Christianity EtcRe: Vatican Releases Photos Of Pope Francis In Open Coffin by sonmvayina(m): 11:58am On Apr 22, 2025
penearth:
He is a president of Vatican city. They are called "papacy swiss guards"
They are all from Switzerland.
Christianity EtcRe: Is Islam Arab Culture?. by sonmvayina(m): 11:50am On Apr 22, 2025
Ubenedictus:
Nothing Serapis there
Dig deeper.
Christianity EtcRe: Why The Old Testament Laws and commandments Are The Best by sonmvayina(m): 11:48am On Apr 22, 2025
Maximus692:
Sonmvayina! cheesy

God said He will change the old laws for a better one! Jeremiah 31:33
Sorry, it removed by comment with my other moniker.

The problem with you lots is that you take a single verse and run away with it and you think you are saying something intelligent or making a valid point but on a close scrutiny, it falls flat.
Why stop at one verse, why not read the surrounding verses to get the proper message.
Let me help you.

31 Behold, the days come, says the LORD, that I will make a new covenant with the house of Israel, and with the house of Judah:

32 Not according to the covenant that I made with their fathers in the day that I took them by the hand to bring them out of the land of Egypt; my covenant which they broke, although I was a husband unto them, says the LORD:

33 But this shall be the covenant that I will make with the house of Israel; After those days, says the LORD, I will put my law in their inward parts, and write it in their hearts; and will be their God, and they shall be my people.

34 And they shall teach no more every man his neighbor, and every man his brother, saying, Know the LORD: for they shall all know me, from the least of them unto the greatest of them, says the LORD: for I will forgive their iniquity, and I will remember their sin no more.

First and foremost the covenant is between Hashem and the Israelites. Not the whole word.
The covenant is still the old one, but this time God will write it in their heart so it becomes effortless to keep and obey. The old one was written on stones and paper, this time it will be written in their heart, no one will go from house to house to knock on people's door like you lot do.
The law will be engraved in their heart.

Stop your deception.
Christianity EtcRe: Death Is No Longer A Door To Judgment, But A Door To Life by sonmvayina(m): 10:45am On Apr 20, 2025
Thankgod89:
I appreciate your passion, but I disagree with your conclusions.

First, your interpretation of idolatry seems to overlook the distinction between worshipping an image as God and recognizing that God manifested in human form through Jesus. The incarnation isn’t about creating a god in man’s image, but about God choosing to reveal Himself in a way we could understand. That’s not idolatry, it’s divine mercy.

As for the prophecies, I’ll gladly share a couple. Isaiah 53 clearly describes a suffering servant who bears the sins of others, this has been historically understood by many, even ancient Jewish scholars, as messianic. Psalm 22 speaks of one who is pierced, surrounded by mockers, whose garments are divided, this isn’t random imagery. Micah 5:2 speaks of a ruler from Bethlehem whose origins are from of old. These are just a few among many.

You’re right that life is about choices. I’ve chosen to follow Jesus not out of ignorance, but after study, prayer, and experience. If you’re open to genuine dialogue rather than mockery, I’d be glad to continue. But if your aim is just to teach without listening, then this won’t be fruitful.

I pray that, in time, we both grow in truth and humility.
Like I suspected, All mistranslation and our right lies. Isaiah 53 is about a suffering servant and 8 times prior to Isaiah 53, God already said who is servant is, why sweating it? See Isaiah 45:1-7

1 So said the Lord to His anointed one, to Cyrus, whose right hand I held, to flatten nations before him, and the loins of kings I will loosen, to open portals before him, and gates shall not be closed.
2 I will go before you, and I will straighten out crooked paths; I will break portals of copper and cut off bars of iron.
3 And I will give you treasures of darkness, and riches hidden in secret places, in order that you know that I am the Lord Who calls [you] by your name-the Holy One of Israel.
4 For the sake of My servant Jacob, and Israel My chosen one, and I called to you by your name; I surnamed you, yet you have not known Me.
5 I am the Lord, and there is no other; besides Me there is no God: I will strengthen you although you have not known me
6 in order that they know from the shining of the sun and from the west that there is no one besides Me; I am the Lord and there is no other.
7 Who forms light and creates darkness, Who makes peace and creates evil; I am the Lord, Who makes all these.

Psalms are songs that are sung during worships. They are not prophecies. Most are written by David.
Let's see your Psalm 22. It is a Psalm of David, it was written by him when he was being chased by Saul who sort to kill him. Why do you people like taking text out of its context. You just read a line and you run away with it. That's why it is very easy for somebody to decide you people and swindle you off your money. Read the whole Psalm and see what it is all about before concluding.

Micah 5 is about a future king. Was Jesus ever a king? Was he anointed with the special oil that is kept in the ark of the covenant as part of his coronation? No, never. He was never a king. He can't be, because for you to be a king you must be from the tribe of Judah, meaning your father must be from the tribe through the family of Solomon. But Jesus is not from anywhere since his father is a God.
Christianity EtcRe: Christianity: The Only Religion Whose Founder's Tomb Is Empty (Photo) by sonmvayina(m): 10:20am On Apr 20, 2025
A religion based on human sacrifice..
Sorry, I think I will pass...
Christianity EtcRe: Death Is No Longer A Door To Judgment, But A Door To Life by sonmvayina(m): 8:29am On Apr 20, 2025
Thankgod89:
From your message, I understand that you don’t believe in our Lord Jesus. I won’t try to argue by pointing to various prophecies or shadows of Christ in the Old Testament that we hold to be true. Still, the word of God stands firm. Christ was not sent as an insult or mockery of God, but as the fulfillment of His promise.

You are free to worship your Creator and follow His commandments as you understand them.

Though we see things differently, I believe these kinds of discussions are meaningful. They push us to seek, study, and draw nearer to the truth. And for me, Christ is the truth.
Well our creator calls it idolatry. Are you not bothered ?
Commandments number 2: Do not make the image or likeness of anything in the heavens, on earth or under the waters below the earth, do not bow down to them or serve them"...

The Romans created a god in the likeness of a man (something that is found on earth ) and you are calling it the truth?? If that is the truth, I wonder what the lie looks like?
Well life is all about making choices, you have chosen to follow the wrong way. No problem. I am not the judge. I only wanted to point you to your mistake and get on the right path with God. Maybe in the future when you continue to study, you might come to a better conclusion so be it.
There is no prophecy about Jesus in the Torah or Tanakh. What you have are all mistranslation and outright lies. If you think you have, I will entertain your proofs. Maybe 1 or 2 will do. I think I am in the mood for teaching now.
Christianity EtcRe: Death Is No Longer A Door To Judgment, But A Door To Life by sonmvayina(m): 8:18am On Apr 20, 2025
Thankgod89:
To us who believe in Him, He is not just a man to be compared with anyone else, but the manifestation of God’s love, mercy, and truth. Worshipping Him is not idolatry—it is acknowledging God revealed in His fullness.

I say this with respect: just as you feel your view honors God, I believe mine does too. We may see things differently, but I'm always open to honest dialogue rooted in truth and Christ is the truth.
Jesus is an insult against God. Just like Daniel prophesied. He has got nothing to do with our creator. We are all children of God if we obey his commandments. God is not a man or a human being. (Numbers 23:19) God has no physical form. We are the forms through which God experiences his creation. Your understanding of this statement is the beginning of your salvation.
Christianity is a pagan concept created by the Roman empire. They only added it at the end of the Jewish scripture to give it some legitimatimacy.
It's idea are so so different from what God revealed in the Torah.
Jerimah 31:31 is a new covenant . The old one was written in paper and stone. In the new covenant, the law will be written in our heart so it becomes effortless to keep. Nobody is coming to die for sins. It is a pagan concept.
Take responsibility for your actions there is no devil or Satan to push it to.
Christianity EtcRe: Death Is No Longer A Door To Judgment, But A Door To Life by sonmvayina(m): 8:08am On Apr 20, 2025
Thankgod89:
The Jewish Scriptures clearly point forward to something greater—a promised Messiah and a new covenant. As it is written in Jeremiah 31:31, “Behold, the days come, saith the LORD, that I will make a new covenant with the house of Israel, and with the house of Judah.” This covenant reveals a deeper unfolding of God’s plan for salvation—not only for Israel, but for all nations.

Jesus did not come to abolish the Torah or the Prophets, but to fulfill them. As He said in Matthew 5:17, “Think not that I am come to destroy the law, or the prophets: I am not come to destroy, but to fulfil.” The New Testament does not contradict the Old—it completes the story God began.

I repeat: while we may see things differently, I am fully convinced that Jesus is not a pagan concept or a man-made idea. He is the Word of God made flesh, the fulfillment of the Law and the Prophets, and the Savior of the world. The Spirit of God within me bears witness—I know whom I serve.

Truth matters. And I pray that we both continue to seek it with sincere and humble hearts.

Jesus is the truth. John 14:6
What was the old covenant ?
What was the new covenant ?
Why did you stop at verse 31 of Jeremiah 31. If the new covenant was about a Messiah, you would have continued. You are only deceiving yourself. Don't use your tongue to count your teeth.
Jesus is a pagan/man made concept. It has nothing to do with God or his new covenant. It is about God's laws. Any body who obeys his laws are his children, not those who reject them. And instead worship an idol.
You can't have it both ways. It's either you worship an idol and disobey God's laws or you follow the laws.
The Messiah, God promised the Jews is a mortal man like me and you from the line of david through Solomon his son. Not a demi god or a divine human(sic) those are pagan concept meant to deceive.
Follow God's divine laws that is the one way you can be on his side. You can't disobey God's divine laws and claim to be on his side. Not possible.
The Jews don't even have any tradition of Jesus. They know he is simply a made up character.
Christianity EtcRe: Easter: Contradictions In The Gospel Narratives! by sonmvayina(m): 8:05pm On Apr 18, 2025
Its all made up BS. They could not keep their deception straight.
Little wonder they never wanted any body to own a copy of the Bible.
Christianity EtcRe: Death Is No Longer A Door To Judgment, But A Door To Life by sonmvayina(m): 6:45pm On Apr 18, 2025
Thankgod89:
From Psalm 104:29-31where you quoted speaks of God’s Spirit (or breath) giving life and withdrawing it at death. It shows that life itself is fully dependent on God. But to answer your question, what remains?—the answer lies in understanding that humans aren’t just a mix of body and breath; we are living souls (Genesis 2:7).

When God formed man from the dust and breathed into him, man became a living soul—not that he had a soul, but he became one. At death, the elements separate:

The body returns to dust, The breath/spirit (the life-force) returns to God, But the soul—the person, the consciousness—ceases to function.

Until the resurrection, there's no awareness or activity (Ecclesiastes 9:5, “the dead know nothing”). So what’s “remaining” isn’t a separate part floating around—it's the record of who we are kept by God, and we await resurrection for judgment or eternal life Daniel 12:2 - And many of them that sleep in the dust of the earth shall awake, some to everlasting life, and some to shame and everlasting contempt..

The soul doesn't live on independently—it sleeps in death, waiting for God to awaken it at the appointed time.
We are living souls. We do not have a soul. We are a soul. When God sends his breath, man becomes a living soul. When the soul expires, it dissociates into the spirit going back to God and body being buried.

Why are you confusing yourself. ?
Man is a soul.

You might even be in your 10th or 12th incarnation.
We (men) are the forms through which God experiences itself or his creation.
God created man so he can experience his creation. We are all Gods having a human experience...or walking a human path. If Jesus actually existed, he is no different from you or me. Worshipping a man as God is tantamount to idolatry and it kind of diminishes us..
Christianity EtcRe: Death Is No Longer A Door To Judgment, But A Door To Life by sonmvayina(m): 6:35pm On Apr 18, 2025
Thankgod89:
I hear your point, but let’s weigh it against what Scripture actually says.

The Bible teaches resurrection, not reincarnation.

John 5:28–29 – “Marvel not at this: for the hour is coming, in the which all that are in the graves shall hear his voice, and shall come forth; they that have done good, unto the resurrection of life; and they that have done evil, unto the resurrection of damnation.”

Daniel 12:2 – “And many of them that sleep in the dust of the earth shall awake, some to everlasting life, and some to shame and everlasting contempt.”

These verses are clear: after death, people sleep in the grave—not roam or reincarnate—and will be raised by God at the appointed time, either to life or to judgment.
The new testament is a Christian/pagan ideology and scriptures. It has got nothing to do with God. The Jewish scriptures ended in Malachi. There is no such thing as a new testament. God does not make mistakes. He got it right the first time.
Man is God's spirit dwelling within a physical body made from Dust. This earth is where God's judgement takes place. When a man expires, his spirit returns to God and his body is buried for it to turn to dust. Will God judge his spirit? Does not make any sense to me. If the spirit has failed to complete his task, he is sent again. "Before you where formed in your mother's womb, I knew you"....(Reference to Jeremiah)., Naked I came from my mother's womb, naked I shall return there Job chapter 1. Etc.

There will be resurrection when God sends his true Messiah in the messianic era. There will be peace on earth and no more wars and oppression. That is true salvation.
Christianity EtcRe: Death Is No Longer A Door To Judgment, But A Door To Life by sonmvayina(m): 6:27pm On Apr 18, 2025
Thankgod89:
[b]I respect your desire to honor God, and I agree. He calls us to repent, confess, and turn from wickedness (2 Chronicles 7:14), and He is merciful to forgive. [/b]But let’s look deeper into how God chose to bring that ultimate healing.

Jesus isn't a mockery of God. He is the fulfillment of God’s redemptive plan from the beginning. He wasn’t created by Rome; He was foretold long before Rome existed:

Isaiah 53:5–6 – “He was wounded for our transgressions... and the Lord has laid on Him the iniquity of us all.”

Psalm 22, written by David centuries before Jesus, describes crucifixion in detail—long before it was even invented.

Daniel 9:26 says “the Anointed One shall be cut off, but not for Himself.” That’s not a Roman creation—that’s prophecy.


You’re right, God doesn’t need human sacrifice in the pagan sense. But Jesus wasn’t just a man. According to Scripture, He is the Word of God made flesh (John 1:14), sent out of love to take our place.

Rejecting Jesus doesn’t honor God—it rejects the very gift God gave to save us. It’s not about advising God—it’s about humbling ourselves to receive what He already planned.

God’s forgiveness is free, but it’s not cheap—it cost something. And Jesus was that willing sacrifice.

Why would I try to advise God smiley? His Word is perfect and true. Just take a moment to really think about that.
What is but again?
Confess and forsake, I will forgive. Simple this is what a loving God will do. Not ask for a human sacrifice. That idea is pagan.
The bolded is all that is required, nothing more. Why are you bringing a pagan ideology to it. Is Gods solution not good enough that you want a human to be killed first. Is it not God that created every soul? What will he gain by asking you to murder one for him, does it even make any sense to you.
Isaiah 53 is not about Jesus, it is about a suffering servant. And Isaiah already told you who the servant is. Please check chapter 45:1-7.
Nobody needs to die before God can forgive. It is a pagan idea. When God send Jonah to Nineveh, they repented and God forgave them. No human sacrifice was involved. Why are you people insisting that Jesus is of God. He is not. He was created as a mockery/insult against God.
I only worship my creator and follow his commandments. That is ok for me. I am not going to complicate it by mixing it with paganism.
Thanks....but no thanks.
Christianity EtcRe: People Who Aren’t Religious, What Do You Genuinely Believe Happens After Death? by sonmvayina(m): 12:48pm On Apr 17, 2025
jaephoenix:
How do you know there's a spirit realm
Because everything in life exists in two.

The physical or material world
And
The none physical or spiritual world.
It is referred to as the principal of duality....
They both have one source...
Christianity EtcRe: Death Is No Longer A Door To Judgment, But A Door To Life by sonmvayina(m): 12:44pm On Apr 17, 2025
Thankgod89:
Bro, take a breath—you’re speaking boldly, but you’re missing some key understanding.

Ecclesiastes 12:7 does say, “Then shall the dust return to the earth as it was: and the spirit shall return unto God who gave it.” That “spirit returning to God” refers to the life-giving breath God breathed into man (see Genesis 2:7). When someone dies, that breath—our very life—goes back to the One who gave it.
So what is remaining? Spirit goes to God and body goes to the earth. See Psalm 104:29-31 send forth your spirit and they are created and fill the earth, take it and they die and return to dust. Which other substance is remaining.?

2 But that doesn’t mean every spirit automatically enters heaven or stands in God’s favor. It simply means the life is no longer with the body. Judgment still follows, as made clear in Hebrews 9:27: “It is appointed unto men once to die, but after this the judgment.”

See this, Ecclesiastes 12:14 - For God shall bring every work into judgment, with every secret thing, whether it be good, or whether it be evil.
Who ever wrote that book of Hebrews is obviously lying his ass off. Why would God judge his spirit. It is pure. It is also God. Like I always say "we are God's spirit dwelling within a physical body made from Dust. We are the forms through which God experiences his creation.

3 Ecclesiastes is reflecting on the reality of death—not giving a full theology on the afterlife. It’s a poetic reminder of life’s fragility, not a statement about who is saved or judged.
when man dies he ceases to exist, the spirit of God goes to him. If the spirit has not fulfilled his reason of incarnation, God can send it back to earth to finish up. The purpose is experience. Why would God punish his spirithuh Does not make sense to me.

4 And as for Jesus—He’s not a pagan concept. He is the centerpiece of God’s redemptive plan, threaded all through Scripture, from Genesis to Revelation.
I don't see how Jesus is important to us or God? If you see point it out. He only exist as a mockery against God. To insult our creator. I refuse to partake in what will insult my creator. He was created by the Roman empire just as Daniel prophesied. God has already told us to confess and forsake...he would forgive and heal our land. That is sufficient for me. He does not need a human sacrifice. See 2nd chronicles 7:14. He already provided a solution. Except you want to advice him that it is not enough. Then....go ahead.
Christianity EtcRe: Death Is No Longer A Door To Judgment, But A Door To Life by sonmvayina(m): 12:30pm On Apr 17, 2025
Thankgod89:
1. Bro, take a breath—you’re speaking boldly, but you’re missing some key understanding.

Ecclesiastes 12:7 does say, “Then shall the dust return to the earth as it was: and the spirit shall return unto God who gave it.” That “spirit returning to God” refers to the life-giving breath God breathed into man (see Genesis 2:7). When someone dies, that breath—our very life—goes back to the One who gave it.

But that doesn’t mean every spirit automatically enters heaven or stands in God’s favor. It simply means the life is no longer with the body. Judgment still follows, as made clear in Hebrews 9:27: “It is appointed unto men once to die, but after this the judgment.”

See this, Ecclesiastes 12:14 - For God shall bring every work into judgment, with every secret thing, whether it be good, or whether it be evil.

Ecclesiastes is reflecting on the reality of death—not giving a full theology on the afterlife. It’s a poetic reminder of life’s fragility, not a statement about who is saved or judged.

And as for Jesus—He’s not a pagan concept. He is the centerpiece of God’s redemptive plan, threaded all through Scripture, from Genesis to Revelation.
Christianity EtcRe: Death Is No Longer A Door To Judgment, But A Door To Life by sonmvayina(m): 10:07pm On Apr 16, 2025
Thankgod89:
[b]Yes, man did incur death by eating from the tree—[/b]but Scripture doesn’t stop there. If death were just a return to dust with no further consequence, then why would Christ speak so clearly about resurrection, judgment, and eternal life? Why would He rise from the dead at all?

Genesis speaks of physical death—“dust to dust”—but throughout the rest of the Bible, there's a clear message that life continues beyond the grave, and that our choices here matter eternally. Hebrews 9:27 says, “It is appointed unto man once to die, and after this, judgment.”

God’s breath in us isn’t just a spark for temporary experience—it’s a deposit of something eternal. Jesus didn’t die and rise just to make our earthly experience nicer; He did it to restore what was lost—relationship, purpose, and eternal life.

There is more, and the resurrection is proof that death is not the end.
That is the only truth in your whole write up.

Every other things after that is hogwash...

I said the body returns to earth AND the spirit returns to God who gave it....is God going to judge his spirit?

See Ecclesiastes 12:7

Stop filling your head with lies. Jesus is just a pagan concept and has nothing to do with God our creator.
Christianity EtcRe: People Who Aren’t Religious, What Do You Genuinely Believe Happens After Death? by sonmvayina(m): 1:28pm On Apr 15, 2025
Go back to where I was before birth.

Back to the realm of the spirit, waiting for another chance for another human experience.
If I don't live to witness the reign of God's real Messiah, which is supposed to be a peaceful and prosperous era for man, I will comeback when he comes.....

Peace is the goal

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