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MaxInDHouse:
So if you don't how exactly do you come about parts that has to do with real people like those involved in the WAR and protection of some character called JUDAH?

God is consciousness..not a man or woman.

So all the stories are all allegory..read it and learn the messages they contain and follow the moral instructions provided....

MaxInDHouse:
Please Sonmvayina don't run away o!

You said:


So Ezra descended from who?

Seriah...
I never said he wrote the Bible...I said Torah

MightySparrow:
I hope you followed the discussion.

Yes I did..

MaxInDHouse:
Sonmvayina!

Where are you nah?

You said Abraham, Isaac, Jacob and Moses are not real people but stories or ALLEGORY that was WRITTEN by Ezra.

So my question is.

Ezra descended from who?

Seriah..

MaxInDHouse:
Sonmvayina has ran away as usual but later he will resurface telling people they don't have sense!

Ran away..
I dey battle malaria....i need to rest...
I am here now

MaxInDHouse:
Just as Genesis to Malachi was all lies and made up stories yet you kept it!

There are spiritual knowledge and moral instructions in it...that is what I take from it..

The letter killeth my brother...

[quote author=Bobbynobobby tpost=133341330]Lol you went to read a few lines in Google, trying to deny the truth. That is okay. It takes a man far removed from simplicity to embrace the truth[/quote]That is your headache...

Bobbynobobby:
Yeah well said like a knowledgeable person. Chew on herbs like a damn ruminant then wait and hope for the best

Tell your self what you want...the universe will create a way for you to get it..

Kingsnairaland:
He was not married to her yet and no law says you can't marry a surrogate

Says who..he was already betrothed to her. That is as good as marriage..

MaxInDHouse:
So Ezra descended from who?

He was a descendant of seriah, who was a priest...
He also was a priest..

MaxInDHouse:
So did the Israelites ever descended from the man called Abraham?

Nah....it a story (allegory). I have said that a thousand times..(why are you not keeping up.

Read the story and learn the messages they contain.

MaxInDHouse:
One thing i hate about you is HYPOCRISY!

When you are stuck the next thing you often do is running away from discussions.

Do you believe miracles recorded in the Bible?

Who runs away from discussion?
Do you know what I do for a living?

Or you think I live here?

MaxInDHouse:
One thing i hate about you is HYPOCRISY!

When you are stuck the next thing you often do is running away from discussions.

Do you believe miracles recorded in the Bible?

No...

MaxInDHouse:
Please i don't want double standards here now!

First and foremost my people YORÙBÁ always BOW to their idols and no word of God says it's wrong, then you said it is just a medium for communicating with God.

As are you saying Israelites could also use such media to communicate with their God?

That is what they used...every nation has one form of oracle or another.
That was why I told you it was Ezra who wrote the Bible....Moses is just a character in the story he used.
Oracle is the ONLY way to communicate with God..And man used allegories to pass it along.

God is not a man/woman/human being in short.

MaxInDHouse:
Don't be stupid, it's not what they put in mouth rather what is found WRITTEN in the Bible!

Then why are you not understanding what it is written if you don't follow what they tell you..
Like You know Isaiah 7:1-16 is about a war and God sign for protecting Judah, but you will still say it is about Jesus....is it not them that hammered that into your head?

theoriginalgood:
Sometimes I suspect that atheists secretly know about God’s existence; they just choose to oppose. Maybe they prefer a life of sin.

https://www.nairaland.com/4998253/death-proof-higher-power-god

Maybe if you explain what God is, they might understand...

MaxInDHouse:
So your sense doesn't tell you that this is not about JW but the Bible that thousands of sects are using?

Then learn it independently...you don't have to believe every shit they put in your mouth.

MaxInDHouse:
Ifá is not against bowing to images so is such a form of worship approved by your god?

Somethings are just common sense..why would any body do that. They don't tell you because they expect you to know...you only take the information and apply them in your life. God is not there, it is just a medium for communicating with God.

Geeflow:
1.Thanks, but should I also remove the seven seeds from the behind?

yes, for cleansing, the other bring it in front of you.

The seven seeds I used to cleanse my body with, what should I do with after using it to cleanse my body??

throw it away.

The seven seeds that can also be put in my mouth, must it also be removed from behind

No, your front.

Should I just put it in my mouth and make declaration or I should first chew it before making declaration

chew it and make declarations as you are chewing it. Then throw it away as you do spit.

If chewed , should I swallow it or I should throw it out of my mouth?
Thanks

suck the chew and throw the shaft away..
Then pay attention to the universe...

And your dreams. The solutions to your request will come.

MaxInDHouse:
There are many books written by human and taken to be scriptures or words of Gods so if you were born in India the Vedah will be word of your God, if you were born in Saudi Arabia the Quran will be word of your God, if you were born in Western Nigeria before colonialism Ifa will be word of your God.

Therefore the so called WORD OF GOD differs they are not the same!

They are all the same with the exception of the new testament and the Quran.
The world of God always comes out from the mouth of men.
Since God does not speak any language as he is not a man or human being. So it is left to man to interpret the messages from God. If I was in eastern Nigeria I would use the things around me, if I was in Israel same...in india...same. but end of the day. God's message is consistent.
That you are indoctrinated into JW does not change that fact.

AntiChristian:
He don tire you?

You started the science and religion thing!
I am just starting with you!

God brought Judaism and later upgraded his syllabus to Christianity, why?

Don't mind him....he really does not know anything.
Judaism is the national religion of the Jews till today. When the real Messiah comes, he would build the new temple and restore all sacrifice and rituals God commanded them to observe.
Christianity on the other side is a creation of the Roman/Greek cabals to enslave peoples mind. It was created on the other of Constantine who wanted a single religion for his empire...

Those days given are usually to protect the woman, the baby girl and baby boy,....it might also means that a girl child needs twice more attention than the male child while undergoing development...

MightySparrow:
All you have referred to are spiritual nothing scientific about it. I hope you know scientific laws are universal and timeless. The instructions here are only for Israelites and time bound.

For the Israelites and has nothing to do with you. We have similar tradition in my place. It is just so the man can't mate with her again...most times to allow the woman's milk flow well and not contaminated....unclean is usually used in this context...

MaxInDHouse:
As your Jewish landlord taught you nah but i am quoting from the same book: Bible!

God spoke to the Israelites through Moses and Peter later told the Israelites that the prophecy was fulfilled by Jesus of Nazareth! Deuteronomy 18:18; Act 3:22

So you're the one who needs to upgrade your whatever that Jewish man told you because it's found written in all Bibles throughout the world!

If you had sense, you should have known that whoever wrote that book of acts was obviously lying...
The same person who said Angels was at Jesus ascension and conversing with people...and recorded two stories about Paul's conversion...

You are not learning at all....if you leave JW heaven will not fall, stop swallowing every shit they put in your mouth...

Learn it independently...

Kingsnairaland:
Don't be vulger

Was it a lie...

Just imagine Joseph coming home from his carpentry workshop and boom, holy Spirit impregnates his wife...?

Funny isn't it...

But that part was one of the red flags that made me research the religion. I found out it was all lies and made up stories...

You are reading a book written by them for their religion..
We pass our own orally from grand father to father to grand son.....
It is till the same message in the stories...whether the igbo man uses Emeka and the Jews use David.. the message in the story is that the God inside of you is more powerful than the obstacle in front of you...(David and Goliath).
We are not supposed to pay attention to the letters or words in the stories but the messages they teach..That is what it means by "the letter killeth"....
This is the Igbo creation mythology.
https://www.inlandtown.com/the-story-of-creation-according-to-igbo-mythology/

It is the same motif as the Jewish one and all the creation myths all over the world.
God+ the earth..

People has started writing this things down in books. I encourage everyone to go back to their roots and learn them...

Lucifyre:
Ah yes evidence and 'reputable' sources like Kenneth Humphreys lol! or when you somehow managed to quote a reputable source, its one that contradicts your claim(this is still funny). Humor me please, provide these evidence and sources so we can take you seriously for once, you could start with the ignorant statement you and your fellow theist dispute. "Ezra wrote the Torah" or as the other ignoramus said he recompiled it. Wouldn't bother with the Jesus thing yet cause i already schooled you on that, that you suddenly had selective amnesia. Anyways close mindedness has a way, so shoot, educate me on Ezra wrote the Torah.

You are not worth my time...

Run along now
You little retard..

Gabrielshow24:
🤦 Don't get it wrong!
You positing Jesus never existed is a baseless statement as I have said earlier.

But you claiming your statement as a fact requires you bring evidence.

I have brought mine so also my fellow christians.

Now it's left to you.
Without any basis to bring forth the SOURCE that makes you believe in such a claim!

And if you can't then you will as well keep shut and we conclude that it's just a foolish thought from a mad man.

And so far, from the course of the argument you have been so incoherent and illogical!

And I state, once again.
Your basis for not believing in God is based on what Fact.

If you can't provide any then it's a nonsensical statement and everyone will kindly ignore you!

His name never appear anywhere in the first century. The time he was taught to have lived.
His name does not come up anywhere , not in correspondence, not in decrees...no where.
Even in second century..and probably third.
What we have was isis and serapis...(IsIS CHREST)

Gabrielshow24:
Stop with the lies, Ezra didn't write Torah he only recompiled it!

From your ass abi?

MaxInDHouse:
I will raise up for them from the midst of their brothers a prophet like you, and I will put my words in his mouth, and he will speak to them all that I command him. Deuteronomy 18:18

Moses was known as the greatest prophet who performed miracles among the Israelites so another prophet like Moses will also perform great signs.

That's why Jesus told the woman that whatever power he has is strictly for the Israelites! Matthew 15:24-26

Is now I know you are a dummy

God was talking to the Israelites in the story.
Not people who will live 3000+ years in the future.
The prophet in question was Joshua...
Why do you always like to take texts out of the context in the story?
You will not learn anything like that.
Leave the text where it is and read the story ...

You have to upgrade this coming year oh...

I am getting tired of educating you...and your block head it not assimilating it...

You have to eat more fruits...

Ebenezer2021:
you're a fool and a very big one.
Islamic terrorist head slammer

Jesus is useless to me...

He does not mean anything to me ..

Why should I care about you dummy that does not know a lie when it is starring you in the face
Learn some history..

Bobbynobobby:
The religion started with Adam, the first man, who was very much aware even during his life that a savior would be born to redeem US ALL. Eve wanted the fulfillment of this vision so badly, she hoped her first born son would be that savior. Now that salvation is available to all of humanity, as planned by the creator

Their is no more solid history, profane or scriptural, than that which is in the bible. The flood, the enslavement in Egypt, the exodus are all documented and evidences of this have been dug up time and time again, scientifically, and the dates are proven to be correct. In fact it is the bible that anyone can use to say anything factual about history of man before the flood. It is this proven bible history that corrects the profane historical dates in Sumeria and Egypt.

Look Sennecharib 1, was the babylonian king that mocked king Hezekiah about his coming destruction in the morning before God's angel of death came in the night and decimated his army of 180,000. In an inscription that was dug up and dated to his time, Sennecherib detailed this very incident himself and he addressed the king of Judah, Hezekiah by name.

When the Almighty you have been doubting decimates your whole army in a single night, you will remember to write an inscription on a monument, so that thousands of years down the line. Foolish statements like the one you made can he highlighted for lovers of truth, light and knowledge to see them for what they truly are...FOOLISH!

Ezra is the creator of Judaism
Ezra is the author of the Torah...

QED

lendahand:
satanic update!

It beats your Jesus 10000000000+ times.

It is our heritage...and it works...

Jesus was used to enslave our ancestors and today still being used to oppress us..
He is useless to the scheme of things..the earlier you loose him from your mind..the better for you..