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Dtruthspeaker:
See better Madness.

The person you responded to, said this Since 2years ago, only for you to return and you continue like it was just yesterday? Your madness can never ever be cured. And that is why it is only those new members who do not know you are mad who talk to you. Drug addict

My intention was to invite you guys here..
First to tell us why God needs a son before we go into the Trinity and Jesus and God being one...

Dtruthspeaker:
Clearly, you are both stupid andI Mad to still ask this after my answer.

You really need to see a psychiatrist ...

You case has really gone to critical. It is now a code red situation.

Please....check yourself into uselu psychiatrist hospital and give them my contact. I will pay for your treatment. I promise.

Whhhhaat did you just type?

Lagos don build that asylum finish?

I get person wey I wan being come..

The first inmate.....

I already have the money for his treatment...

Until you people realize that Jesus is a Roman /Greek invention, you will keep arguing. That is why the Catholics who invented the idea called it a mystery. And they said anybody who does not believe, let him be anathema(as good as Dead)
When the Tanakh clearly said that God is one...They even made the devil a dual opposite of God....what insult. And you want me to be part of it after finding out the truth...

Michael547:
Since living people do not go to hell, is there consciousness in sheol?

God is the universal divine consciousness
Man is Consciousness(God') +Body made from Dust of the earth.

When man's number is up..the Consciousness leaves and becomes one with God. And we bury the body (after some ceremony) for it to return back to the earth and the body becomes one with the earth.
We are all Gods experiencing life in multiple ways....
Digest it .

Take goodness I left Christianity...so full of bull crap.
See them arguing over sheol, grave and hell.
So sad....

Michael547:
If the God in Hebrews 1:8 refers to Jesus the son of God, who is the God that is anointing in Hebrews 1:9, and who is this person that is being anointed?

This Psalm was written by David and given to the choir master or conductor to sing during services..
So the true rendering of the Psalm is
The Lord(The most high) said to my master(David).......l
The other part of the Psalm confirms it is talking about David....not some imaginary person...

Aemmyjah:
That's where you are making so sense. Most of these writers were Romans and their writings were derogatory things and propaganda about Christ and his disciples. Most critics use this to say that Jesus never existed. But because someone write reports to condemn a person does not mean that one does not exist right? If I write all sorts of bad things about you, it is wrong to use such analysis to prove you don't exist. Like I said, I won't click on that link as you have nothing to prove from your own conviction. I was expecting you to bring up something real as a smart person, you bring up link of atheism. That action alone shows that there's no need discussing anything again with you

You have still not provided the proof that Jesus existed with God from the beginning.
Moses who spoke with God did not know. Seems God kept that quiet.
Show me one portion in the Tanakh that support the fact that Jesus existed before the Greeks/Romans started forging their books...

olabrad:
If you have any knowledge of history and not an empty daft idiot, you won't say Jesus is fictional. Many historians from First and second centuries wrote about him.

Saying Jesus is fictional is like saying Herod Antipas, Pontius Pilate and Tiberius Cesar are fictional and saying that will expose you as being stupid, an ignorant idiot desperate to push a deceptive agenda through ignoble lies.

Since you seem to believe in God and his ordinances to the Jews, it means you believe in the old testament.

Can you tell me who Psalm 22:16-18 is referring to?, same with Micah 5:2, Isaiah 7:14,Isaiah 40:3-5.?

If you can't provide answers to the Verses above, then you are Just Lying that you read the bible.

I would rather serve Jesus, who laid down his life for me than serve ògún and sacrifice blood every year.

I will take the verses one by one and explain them to you...I know you want to drink from the well of my knowledge. Since you are new..
1.psalm 22:16-18
Psalm 22 was written by David and given to the conductor or choir master to be sung during worship.
This Psalm was written when Saul was chasing David and wanted to kill him. It was a Psalm written because he thought God has deserted him and Saul and his soldiers were approaching., verses 16-18 describes his fear when he was hiding and sauls men where too close to him.
There is no Jesus there.
2.Micah 5:2:reading from verse 1, you can see it is talking about a ruler, that is king that will rule over Israel,. That clearly is not Jesus since he never sat on the throne of David, he was never anointed with the oil of chrism that is kept inside the ark of covenant. The said king will come at the end of days. Talking about the real Messiah that God will raise. Not a half God /half man...that too is a miss quote.
3.isaiah 7:14 is talking about a young woman being pregnant and about to give birth. The woman will give birth to a son whom the mother will call Immanuel . The boy is supposed to be a sign for king Ahaz that his kingdom will withstand the threat of the northern 10 tribes and Syria. They had formed an alliance and wanted to go to the south and install a king that would be their ally too. King Ahaz was scared and God sent Isaiah to him with the sign to assure him that whatever they are planning will not happen, FYI Immanuel is isaiah's second son. The young woman is the prophetess his wife or concubine or girl friend....so another miss.
4. Isaiah 40:3-5. Isaiah 40 is one of the suffering servant songs, the other being Isaiah 53. It is talking about the redemption of the Jewish people, and how God has seen their suffering. There is no Jesus there too...read the whole chapter and see for your self. If you continue to remove the text from its context, you will miss the bigger picture..that is what you have done...read from beginning to end of all the chapters you presented, you will not see Jesus in any of them....

Learn, unlearn and relearn...

Michael547:
🤣🤣🤣you mean your Personal knowledge is not me. That is correct actually because I base my knowledge on the bible not on novels from your thoughts.

You still think the Bible is a literal /historical literature...
If we were both in school, I would be in 400 level of a 5 year course, while you will be in primary 3...can you see the distance between my knowledge and yours?
Run along now little one...

Fortune109:
Very deep bro!

I will love to know...or so you have a source for it..

I just hope it's not the book of revelation.

olabrad:
Yes, I believe that Jesus died for me. And that's why I don't have to sacrifice animals or blood to any idol like you. He has paid the full price for my salvation, redemption and peace.

Again, if you have any sense at all, u will read the entire bible first before condemning Christianity

I have read everything that is how I know it is bull crap. Created just to deceive little minds like you...and those who cant understand and comprehend..

Jesus is fiction....that's the truth.

God already the Jews the requirement for a proper sacrifice none of which involves human life or Romans...
Human sacrifice belongs to the realm of Lucifer...it is a demonic practice...
It does not have the approval of God on it...

dinomcjohn:
Should I tell you the truth? Yes, you are not happy, fulfilled and satisfied. Be careful, your life may be totally useless if you don't change your beliefs. It is not my Jesus you are referring to. Be warned. Jesus is coming back and this time, he comes in judgement. There is still time for you to repent. If at all you don't want to repent, you are warned. Never say anything against Jesus Christ.

Don't break any blood vessel.
He is not real...

He was created in Nicea by some nicumpops by the order of Constantine who wanted a single religion for his empire. They had to choose between Mithraism and chrestianity. If they had chosen Mithraism, you would have been telling me about mithras. But we all know they are all myths.

For good measure...Mary the mother of Jesus is Lucifer. The queen of heaven. It's all myths my brother...

dinomcjohn:
Never, anyone can say their dad or mum. Jesus has done way more than any dad or mum can do. Even your dad needs Jesus. We all need him

My Dad has done more for me than anybody who has lived.
Jesus is not my ancestor. He is useless to me, he does not mean anything to me.
He only exist in books that those who came to steal our resources gave to us..

If I were you, I would dump that book in a bin...

dinomcjohn:
So many scientists have done more than Tesla. Where do you put Isaac Newton, Galilei Galileo and Albert Einstein. What about the great philosophers Socrates, Aristotle and others. Yes, there have been great men.

However, Jesus is far greater than them all combined. What Jesus did, no one ever did and no one can replicate.

All Jesus did was to the glory of God. The answer again is Jesus.

My Dad has done more for me than the fictitious Jesus....

Jesus has done nothing for me...he is not my ancestors . We don't know him. He only exist in a book the people who came to steal from us gave us.....

He is useless to me....

dinomcjohn:
So many scientists have done more than Tesla. Where do you put Isaac Newton, Galilei Galileo and Albert Einstein. What about the great philosophers Socrates, Aristotle and others. Yes, there have been great men.

However, Jesus is far greater than them all combined. What Jesus did, no one ever did and no one can replicate.

All Jesus did was to the glory of God. The answer again is Jesus.

Jesus is just a character in a story book...

You can't compare him to real figures...

Makes no sense...

Just like me comparing you to Harry Potter.....funny isn't it?

Michael547:
Up till now, you've not found a verse that says that man is a spirit. You've just been writing novels from your thoughts.

These knowledge are not for you...

They are way way above your thinking and understanding...

Just read and pass....

There are many distortions of truth, as predicted by sleeping man. Be it in those who think they are enlightened or those who read and mistranslate the writings of divine truth.

The soul is God, which is why it is eternal, omnipresence, and why we are in essence perfect.. Which too is why God does NOT judge, condemn or punish man, despite those who tell you, you are flawed, failed or fallen.. all untrue.

We ALL, at our center, are divine children of the one infinite creator, whole, perfect and infinite. It is only in the abovementioned misinterpretation of man, residing in the belief that he is the finite mind/body, where he asserts his untruth.

The spirit, which is finite, is the individualized aspect of the creator into form, for the sake of experiencing material reality, and why it has been said before, that creation is the creator experiencing itself.

And lastly the mind/body is the mechanism, the vessel for these, as the dense manifestation so the creator could experience sense perception.

Michael547:
Kindly open my mind with a verse that says that man is a spirit.

See The creation of man ..

At least from the beginning......

Nikola Tesla has done more for humanity than Jesus and Muhammad put together....just to be sarcastic. I know they never existed..

dinomcjohn:
Come to Jesus and get everlasting life.

Everlasting life in poverty...

Let him first credit my aza with 10 million, make I take enjoy him birthday with my family...if he is real.

If he can't, then he is as useless as Dtruthspeaker..

Long and short answer..

My Dad...

Chekwume16:
It simply means dont harm your neighbour either in thoughts, words or actions and always remember that vengeance is of the Lord

Will God come down to come and discipline him/her ?
Is it not a human he will use?
So he decided to use me too to show him shege....
I will gladly oblige.....

Kpai him straight away......

Forgiveness is between my enemy and God ..

My own is just to arrange the meeting...

IfyAwazie:
It means do good to ur enemies. Don't pay back evil with evil, rather pay back evil with good

Spiritually it is a sign of weakness..

You go die quick...

AntiChristian:
When they slap you turn the other cheek!

Even Jesus no do this one self...

Talk is really cheap....

Fortune109:
Possible!

But only people with very high vibration who have had their "EGO DEATH" attain that...

That state of freedom and pure clarity a soul reaches after a physical death...Ego Death put you in that state with not having to physically die first...you now feel and empathize with people and love them... You are now fully grounded and at zero point where everything returns...

You will love everybody including your supposed enemies...and people will show love back to you because everything now returns to you...

To be honest...

Not all vibrate very high to this level... Only about 144,000 out of billions of people in the world are able to achieve this at a given time...

Also to add...this journey is an agonizing one...no one wishes to be on this journey...not everyone can withstand or fully understand what's happening to them when it starts...only God can make you a CHOSEN one for the path...




God is Great!

Everything here ...apart from the 144000

How did you come about that number?

olabrad:
Bro, keep shut. Bible isn't a book of slavery. Have you ever read the bible cover to cover ?

So, you don't know that the African gods also put their people in slavery? They must sacrifice animals and even human blood to appease these gods.

At times, these African idols demand for the blood of strangers/visitors to the community.
Show me where Christianity teaches people to kill someone to appease God.

You guys don't know what you are asking for

But you believe the Romans killed Jesus for your salvation....

You get sense at all?

Michael547:
Kindly point a verse na in Genesis to Malachi. Even one verse you cannot provide?

I don't know how to reach you anymore...
The entire Tanakh is about the spirit man. Not the dust. That is what Christian claim Jesus came to ransom, not the dust....
I don't know how to open your mind ..

OkCornel:
According to the early Judaisers who carried out genocides on God’s authority. Blood cleansing in Canaan, destruction of the Amalekites etc. under the instructions of God.

They had their arguments/convictions for it however, that’s discussion for another time.

Like I always say "the jihad is within"..

I will invite you to my thread, when I get round to it...very soon...

Everything will be clearer..

All those battles are taking place inside of us...
The Amalikites represent doubt.....they are all allegory....God represents our higher consciousness.....not a jewish man up in the sky...

OkCornel:
Reading through the Jerusalem Talmud and the virtual Jewish library.

https://www.jewishvirtuallibrary.org/afterlife#?utm_content=cmp-true

It is not a Christian propaganda. There are Judaisers that believe in life/consciousness after death.

That is my position too..

That is why I told Michael that we are the spirit, not the dust.....

Michael547:
Kindly show me one verse where man is referred to as a spirit.

Genesis to Malachi....

That's what the entire Torah is about...

OkCornel:
Unfortunately, most people don’t realise the Bible is a mish mash of evolved viewpoints over a period of time.

The concept of soul

The evolution of Satan from a tempter and accuser in early Judaism to an embodiment of everything evil in the New Testament.

The evolution of God from a seemingly bloodthirsty warmonger in early Judaism to an embodiment of everything love and patience in the New Testament.


In all these things, only if people knew that TRUTH is absolute, but it is the understanding of men that changes over time. Only if religious adherents can understand this.

This is what I was referring to..

When did God become a war monger and blood tasty?