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Christianity EtcRe: Isreali, David Shoshan Sues God, Says He Should Stop Answering His Prayers by Splinz(m): 3:46pm On May 06, 2016
grin grin grin...... see clear kolomental! The judge Bleep up sha, he shouldn't have just threw out the suit, he should have given an order to take that man to a psychiatric immediately.
PoliticsRe: Recovering Stolen Funds Has Become Tedious—buhari by Splinz(m): 1:12pm On May 06, 2016
Jirate:
The only reason why it has become Difficult is because You and a lot of Your Party Members are also Involved, Period. cool cool cool
Thieving liars........... grin grin grin
Christianity EtcRe: A Grace Preacher To Answer All Your Questions And settle your Confusions. by Splinz(m):
promise101:
Please, I challenge you to put up verses that you said that is against the grace Gospel.

I know that babies can always can adults babies, so that's no a problem to me.

When I said they that there is no more sin, I was LOGICAL with the law. I said that when there is no law, sin is no more because it is dead and this is all talking about righteousness before God. In the righteousness before men, it is all about work of righteousness(law) and not faith.


Mind you, I never said that sin does not exist when there is law, rather I said that sin OUTSIDE LAW is dead. And I proved that with the scriptures, which you couldn't disprove up till now.

I am deluded? Lol. I pray that God will deliver you from the curse of the law, which you are under.

We are don't kill, fornicate, commit adultery, steal, worship false gods because the abolished law says so. Rather, we don't do that because of the love of God that has been shed abroad in our heart. And that is never calling for hypocritical sinless perfect by works of righteousness.
You know what your problem is? Your ignorance and lack of comprehension!

There's a great difference between the Ten commandments and the law of Moses, which obviously you don't know or you simply don't want to know. First, understand this! The Law of Moses consisted of (1) the civil laws, which were the statutes and judgements that Moses relayed to the people from God, recorded in Exodus 21-23 and in the remaining books of the law, and (2) the ritualistic laws (or Greek: ergon) that were added later, summarized in Hebrews 9:10. They were ordinances regulating the job of the tribe of Levi in temple service, sacrifices (Leviticus 1-7) and associated functions. The word ergon means "works", as in the "works of the law" (such as in Galatians 2:16. Which you've used to equate observing the Ten commandments). This refers to the labor involving the Levitical rituals that were abolished by Christ's sacrifice.

Paul asked some pertinent questions, "What then shall we say? That the Law is sin?" He answered, "By no means!" (Romans 7:7). He went on to explained that he wouldn't have known what is sin if the Law wasn't his guide! Shouldn't this make you think, or don't you understand anything?

You've talked about righteousness before God... Gospel of Grace (I wonder where you get that kind of gospel from. What we know is the "Gospel of the Kingdom of God" (Mark 1:14-15) preached by Jesus and the Apostles), etc. Yet the Apostle Paul described that same Law you said has been abolished, in this manner, "So the Law is holy, and the commandment is holy and righteous and good"- Romans 7:12. Mr. Grace preacher, can you see that Paul described the Law as that which actually qualifies one as a true Christian? As Christians, are we not to be holy, righteous and good, which is what the Law stands for? Why would God do away with His perfect, righteous, good, and holy Law? Was that which is holy, righteous and good, done away that we may embrace the opposite or what exactly? These qualities of the Law is what defines God too, because He is holy, righteous and good. So by implication, you're saying, "God has put off these qualities" since that which expresses His qualities have been abolished!

I've already identified your problems, and will conclude it with what Apostle Peter said, "And count the patience of our Lord as salvation, just as our beloved brother Paul also wrote to you according to the wisdom given him, as he does in all his letters when he speaks in them of these matters. There are some things in them that are HARD to understand, which the IGNORANT and UNSTABLE TWIST to their own destruction, as THEY do the other Scriptures"- 2 Peter 3:15-16.

Please, rightly divide the word of God. If you can't, put aside all preconceived ideas and pray to the Lord for understanding. Lastly, we preached no philosophy or logic; what we preached is the "Kingdom of God!".
Christianity EtcRe: A Grace Preacher To Answer All Your Questions And settle your Confusions. by Splinz(m): 11:31pm On May 05, 2016
Amberon:
Revelation 22: 15 But outside are dogs and sorcerers and sexually immoral and murderers and idolaters , and whoever loves and practices a lie.

Grace is not a gateway ticket to heaven.

The above is one of the last verses in the bible. Not in the old testament. You won't get into heaven without holiness and righteousness otherwise God wouldn't have said this


Matthew 7:21-23 King James Version (KJV)
Not every one that saith unto me, Lord, Lord,
shall enter into the kingdom of heaven; but he that
doeth the will of my Father which is in heaven.

22" Many will say to me in that day, Lord, Lord, have
we not prophesied in thy name? and in thy name
have cast out devils? and in thy name done many
wonderful works?

23" And then will I profess unto them, I never knew
you: depart from me, ye that work iniquity.
"Depart from me, ye that work iniquity". There it is- sin! And a so-called grace preacher wickedly dismissed sin as no more, just to hold on to his traditions & ideas (Mark 7:7-10).

Please pray for the misguided soul.
Christianity EtcRe: The Missing Third Person Of The Trinity- Inconsequential? by Splinz(op): 10:53pm On May 05, 2016
Barristter07:
Good insight @ op
Thanks. Seems they've all gone into hiding.
Christianity EtcRe: The Missing Third Person Of The Trinity- Inconsequential? by Splinz(op): 10:50pm On May 05, 2016
C'mon guys, lets stop this furtive entry & exit. These questions begs your answers please......... Or are they no trinitarians anymore?
PoliticsRe: Panic As Fashola Lands In Fresh Trouble With Tinubu by Splinz(m): 8:09pm On May 05, 2016
Tell that man to excuse me! He brought us into this terrible mess
PoliticsRe: Buhari Fails To Release Asset Declaration Documents After CCB Verification by Splinz(m): 7:50pm On May 05, 2016
Doing that will become a can of worms for his sorry ass. We all know his uncommon corruption.
PoliticsRe: Man Killed By Hausa Man In Aba Today (Photos) by Splinz(m): 7:27pm On May 05, 2016
Blame that colossal failure of a man called Buhari. He's a failure at everything! embarassed
PoliticsRe: Investment Inflow Into Nigeria Drops To Nine-year Low –NBS by Splinz(m): 6:26pm On May 05, 2016
PassingShot:
Wailing Mourner, you still have seven years of mourning to do.

@ topic, no problems. The end will justify the means.

Governance is not a sprint but marathon.

Price of crude oil which is the main source of Nigeria's income dropped to it's lowest price in more than a decade.

Billions of dollars stollen by IB and his cohorts.

Reserves and SWF depleted by the same Ineffectual Clown from Otuoke.

PMB is on a mission to restructure Nigeria and it will take some time because it's easy to destroy than to build.

If not for PMB, what Greece is passing through would have been a child's play should the thieving cabals of GEJ and co still be in charge.
Have you finish consoling yourself?
PoliticsRe: Did Kemi Adeosun Expose Buhari And APC On Channels. by Splinz(m): 6:10pm On May 05, 2016
obailala:
There is no way you can solve a problem without establishing and reminding yourself of what the problem is. Also with the suffering masses crying out everyday, and with the dubiously hypocritical opposition (who put us in this mess) spewing balderdash everyday, it becomes inevitable for them to keep announcing and re-announcing what the problem is even whilst they take steps to fix it.

So what are they doing presently?... I do not know, I am not in the govt, but I sure know they aren't sitting back, folding their arms and just watching while things get worse. I believe they are doing something and the bitter truth remains that there is no fast way out of this economic quagmire we find ourselves in today; except of course you want them to come out and start lying to Nigerians.

Finally, the solution to this messy situation is to diversify the economy and diversification can never be done in a day except God himself comes out and does it. In essence, the messy situation will persist for a while, except oil prices miraculously jumps back up. I appear not too bothered because I have a bit of an understanding of the magnitude of the rot and also know it cannot be cleared in a day; you cant feel too disappointed when you don't expect too much.
Give it up, man. Simply accept that this government is a colossal failure!
Christianity EtcRe: The Missing Third Person Of The Trinity- Inconsequential? by Splinz(op): 3:56pm On May 05, 2016
tintingz:
Jesus himself never mention trinity, I wonder why trinity is used by many churches.
That's why I'm calling on the professors to explain to us where their third person was, during Paul's ministry.
Jokes EtcRe: Zuckerberg Endorses Lai Mohammed's Masquerade Dressing Job [PHOTO] by Splinz(m): 3:36pm On May 05, 2016
doublewisdom:
cheesy grin cheesy grin grin I sight menka the chief zombie. He's wearing the biggest costume because his zombism is colossal.

Christianity EtcThe Missing Third Person Of The Trinity- Inconsequential? by Splinz(op):
This thread is for the trinitarians, who professes the three persons of the Godhead.

Now, Paul, in all of his writings to the Churches of God, always acknowledges and send his greetings in the name of God the Father and the Lord Jesus Christ, with the obvious missing or non mention of the supposed third Person. Here are the salutations of Paul to the Churches:

1. "To all God's beloved in Rome, who are called to be saints: Grace to you and peace from God our Father and the Lord Jesus Christ"- Romans 1:7.

2. "To the church of God which is at Corinth, to those sanctified in Christ Jesus, called to be saints together with all those who in every place call on the name of our Lord Jesus Christ, both their Lord and ours: Grace to you and peace from God our Father and the Lord Jesus"- 1 Corinthians 1:2-3.

3. "Paul, an apostle of Christ Jesus by the will of God, and Timothy our brother. To the church of God which is at Corinth, with all the saints who are in the whole of Acha'ia: Grace to you and peace from God our Father and the Lord Jesus Christ"- 2 Corinthians 1:1-2.

4. "Paul an apostle--not from men nor through man, but through Jesus Christ and God the Father, who raised him from the dead-- and all the brethren who are with me, To the churches of Galatia: Grace to you and peace from God the Father and our Lord Jesus Christ"- Galatians 1:1-3.

5. " Paul, an apostle of Christ Jesus by the will of God, To God’s holy people in Ephesus, the faithful in Christ Jesus: Grace and peace to you from God our Father and the Lord Jesus Christ"- Ephesian 1:1-2.

6. "Paul and Timothy, servants of Christ Jesus, To all the saints in Christ Jesus who are at Philip'pi, with the bishops and deacons: Grace to you and peace from God our Father and the Lord Jesus Christ"- Philippians 1:1-2.

7. "Paul, an apostle of Christ Jesus by the will of God, and Timothy our brother, To the saints and faithful brethren in Christ at Colos'sae: Grace to you and peace from God our Father"- Colossians 1:1-2.

8. "Paul, Silva'nus, and Timothy, To the church of the Thessalo'nians in God the Father and the Lord Jesus Christ: Grace to you and peace"- Thessalonians 1:1.

9. "Paul, Silva'nus, and Timothy, To the church of the Thessalo'nians in God our Father and the Lord Jesus Christ: Grace to you and peace from God the Father and the Lord Jesus Christ"- 2 Thessalonians 1:1-2.

10. " Paul, an apostle of Christ Jesus by command of God our Savior and of Christ Jesus our hope, To Timothy, my true child in the faith: Grace, mercy, and peace from God the Father and Christ Jesus our Lord"- 1 Timothy 1:1-2.

11. " Paul, an apostle of Christ Jesus by the will of God according to the promise of the life which is in Christ Jesus, To Timothy, my beloved child: Grace, mercy, and peace from God the Father and Christ Jesus our Lord"- 2 Timothy 1:1-2.

12. " Paul, a servant of God and an apostle of Jesus Christ, to further the faith of God's elect and their knowledge of the truth which accords with godliness, in hope of eternal life which God, who never lies, promised ages ago and at the proper time manifested in his word through the preaching with which I have been entrusted by command of God our Savior; To Titus, my true child in a common faith: Grace and peace from God the Father and Christ Jesus our Savior"- Titus 1:1-4.

13. " Paul, a prisoner for Christ Jesus, and Timothy our brother, To Phile'mon our beloved fellow worker and Ap'phia our sister and Archip'pus our fellow soldier, and the church in your house: Grace to you and peace from God our Father and the Lord Jesus Christ"- Philemon 1:1-3.

In all of these salutations of Paul, no where is the third person of the trinity mentioned. How could Paul have done this terrible thing? Does it mean the third person of the trinity was not reveal to Paul? Or was the third person simply inconsequential? Why was all the greetings in the name of God the Father and the Lord Jesus Christ? To the trinitarians, these questions begs your answers.
CrimeRe: Police, Firefighters Abandon Man On Electric Pole (pics) by Splinz(m): 1:57pm On May 05, 2016
Apparently, im mumu don tire everybody. So they be like...

PoliticsRe: Obasanjo Donates A Chimpanzee ‘Patience’ To A Zoo by Splinz(m): 10:20am On May 05, 2016
Ah! Una don kill OBJ. Shey na him want donate something go donate chimpanzee... LOL
CelebritiesRe: Tiwa Savage On Jenifa's Diary With Funke Akindele (photo) by Splinz(m): 9:55am On May 05, 2016
pucelle:
she is so strong

Just like MIMZY
no time for babies in the body of a man tongue
You'll always be a woman, hence, a weaker vessel...
PoliticsRe: Goodluck Jonathan Remembers Yar'adua 6 Years After by Splinz(m): 9:27am On May 05, 2016
Ebukaokeke5:
Dis days ur body wud b joining him where he is.U aint escaping judgement mr .GEJ
Do you know if your own judgement has already been passed, and you'll go before him? Fool!
Christianity EtcRe: A Grace Preacher To Answer All Your Questions And settle your Confusions. by Splinz(m): 8:22pm On May 04, 2016
Gombs:
I find this common with most grace preachers... Alot of them really take it to the extreme. Some folks here took time out to assemble "grace convention"... It's an eyesore considering their submissions, though not all were wrong.

Promise is doing fine, I'm sure he'd retrace his steps.
It's really a very pathetic situation! All what they do is to search the scriptures for verses that seems to support their preconceived ideas, and then churn out these verses distorted and out of context, therefore misleading 'babies' in the process.

How can a supposed Christian say there's no more sin? This statement alone has exposed who he is- a liar and deceiver! If there's no more sin, then lets kill, fornicate, commit adultery, steal, worship false gods, etc. After all, isn't the Law done away and sin no more? What delusion!
Christianity EtcRe: What Does It Mean When It Says 'The Fool Says In His Heart There Is No God'? by Splinz(m): 6:15pm On May 04, 2016
That statement is self explanatory, you need no interpreter. Whoever says there's no God, irrespective of who he is- professor, scholar, etc, or by whatever name they are called, is a BIG fool!
Christianity EtcRe: A Grace Preacher To Answer All Your Questions And settle your Confusions. by Splinz(m): 4:00pm On May 04, 2016
Gombs:
Promise101, i have read through your writings lately and find it worrisome that you're delving out of lane. For example

you cant just wholly write that the law was COMPLETELY TERMINATED, for we know the aspect of the law that was abolished, Paul even said the law was good, in fact, he taught on some of these retained laws, a good example is found in Ephesians 6:1-2.

my question is, what was Paul trying to prove, when he quoted elements of the law (not the aspect abolished by Jesus now)? If the law was wholly terminated, where then does Ephesians 6:1-2 falls?


i saw this line, and I paused



Do you know why CHRISTIANS are dead to sin? Sin is dead? undecided undecided undecided

The christian is DEAD TO SIN, and alive to God, because all of us were born "dead in sin", before we can ever hope to be "dead to sin,". Paul writes in Ephesians 2:1 that before we became Christians, we were all "dead in [our] transgressions and sins." Of course he does not mean that we are physically dead. Rather, the life of a person who has not experienced new life in Christ is characterized by spiritual death. This means that person is separated from God's salvation.

I really don't understand how you arrived at sin is dead!, that is very different from "dead to sin"
Delving out of lane is a small matter cos he can be put back on track. But unfortunately, he's actually lost! Pray for the delusional mind. Perhaps, God's mercy may rescue him.
Christianity EtcRe: A Grace Preacher To Answer All Your Questions And settle your Confusions. by Splinz(m): 3:47pm On May 04, 2016
promise101:
1. Yes of course, it was abolished together with sin.
There is no more sin and law!

EP 2:14-16. For he is our peace, who hath made both one, and hath broken down the middle wall of
partition between us;
15. Having ABOLISHED IN HIS FLESH THE ENMITY(sin), even
the law of COMMANDMENTS(10) contained in ORDINANCES(630+); for to make in himself of twain one new man, so making peace;
16. And that he might reconcile both unto God in one body by the cross, HAVING SLAIN(abolished) THE ENMITY(sin) thereby:

2 COR 3:7-14. But if the ministration of death,
written and engraven in stones, was glorious, so that the children of Israel could not steadfastly behold the face of Moses for the glory of his countenance; which glory was to be done away:
11. For if that which is done away was glorious, much more that which remaineth is glorious.
13. And not as Moses, which put a vail over his face,
that the children of Israel could not stedfastly look to the end of that which is ABOLISHED:
14. But their minds were blinded: for until this day
remaineth the same vail untaken away in the reading of the old testament; which vail is done away in Christ.

COL 2:14. BLOTTING OUT the handwriting of ORDINANCE(law) that was against us, which was contrary to us, and TOOK IT OUT OF THE WAY, NAILING(abolishing) IT TO HIS CROSS.;

RO 10: 4. For Christ is the END of the law for
righteousness to every one that BELIEVETH.

RO 7: 6. But now we are delivered from the law, that being dead wherein we were held; that we should serve in newness of spirit, and not in the oldness of the letter.

HEB 7:18 For there is verily a DISANNULLING of the
commandment going before for the weakness and
unprofitableness thereof.

Romans 4:15 KJV
15 Because the law worketh wrath: for where NO LAW is, there is NO TRANSGRESSION.

We can see from the Scriptures above, the Law has
been TERMINATED. Consequently, there is no more
SIN(transgression).

Romans 5:13 KJV
13 (For until the law sin was in the world: but sin is
not imputed when there is no law.

Since the Law has been terminated, sin is NOT
imputed anymore. It is under the blood of Jesus.

Romans 7:8 KJV
8 But sin, taking occasion by the commandment,
wrought in me all manner of concupiscence. For
without the law sin was dead.

Since the Law has been TERMINATED, sin is now dead. There you have it: there is no transgression, sin is no longer imputed and sin is dead.



If we transgress those laws, it is sin but it is not imputed on us. And it happens everyday of our life,if we can go and check ourselves with the old law.

2. In the book of 1john, john talked about the law and commandment. But he NEVER said that the commandments are the one that was abolished. See the commandment of the believers he was talking about.

1john 3:23;"His COMMANDMENTS are that we should BELIEVE(faith alone) in the name of his Son, Jesus Christ, and love one another—as we used to hear him say in person.

His ONLY commandments is to BELIEVE in Jesus and love one another. His new commandment is not the same with the OT laws. OT commandment are based on works of right living, but the NT commandment is based on FAITH alone.


When he went further to say, "love one another" he was NOT talking about sinlessness. Among the grace believers, there is always an AMAZING love in our midst, that many law abiding believers can never have. Love is something normal to us, but does it mean that we are now perfect in love? NEVER!

At times, things that can hinder us from loving can occur, as the human beings we are. In that case, though it is sin, we are not condemned because it has been abolished on his flesh at the cross.
"Yes of course, it was abolished together with sin. There is no more sin and law!". I've not bothered reading your long epistles churned out of context, just after reading your above statement. There's no more SINhuh God, what delusion! You mean you actually went this extreme just to hold on to your false preconceived ideashuh

Initially I thought we could reason together, but not again. For it is written, "Do not be unequally yoked together with unbelievers. For what fellowship has righteousness with LAWLESSNESS? And what communion has light with darkness? And what accord has Christ with Belial? Or what part has a believer with an UNBELIEVER?- 2 Corinthians 6:14-15. So you see, we're two side of a coin. One is a lawless one, and the other, the very opposite. And like Paul, I ask, what fellowship has righteousness with lawlessness? Certainly none!

And lastly, "If we say that we have no sin, we deceive ourselves, and the truth is not in us"- 1 John 1:8. Having scrutinized you in light of the scriptures, I make bold to say that you're a willing tool of Satan, perverting God's word! And I surely wanna offer you this advice of Apostle Peter and prayed you heed it, "Repent, therefore, of this wickedness of yours, and pray to the Lord that, if possible, the intent of your heart may be forgiven you"- Acts 8:22.
PoliticsRe: Crowd Mob Akpabio Outside A Bank In Akwa Ibom State by Splinz(m): 2:45pm On May 04, 2016
tayebest:
C'mon grow up! Akpabio is a thief angry
At least he steal with style, not a petty thief like you...

RomanceRe: Why Do Women Make Noise During Sex? by Splinz(m): 1:24pm On May 04, 2016
osedvgirl:
noted grin
But don't just take my words for it. Go a step further and prove me..... wink wink wink
Christianity EtcRe: Let's Talk About Being Born Again by Splinz(m): 7:58am On May 04, 2016
There's nothing errorneous in what I posted. Are you saying because it brings in part of the truth from the resurrection chapter to make a clearer picture of what Christ was teaching, that makes it an error? That's absurd!

You probably have never heard of this teaching, "For precept must be upon precept, precept upon precept; line upon line, line upon line; here a little, and there a little"- Isaiah 28:10. What it means is that the teaching of a doctrine or God's word on a matter are not found in a single chapter or verse, but scattered through out the bible. Now a lot of people are very guilty of making the mistake of quoting a single chapter of the bible to established a doctrine or teaching, including you. It must be a little here; a little there. And trust me, God is ever wise, because this encourages thorough studying of His words.

I have a lot to discuss with you. But before then, I urge you to once again peruse what Posted and pick out what you think are errors (not that there's any) so that we can further examine it in the light of the bible. Remember, we want to know what exactly it mean to be "Born Again".
RomanceRe: Why Do Women Make Noise During Sex? by Splinz(m): 11:31pm On May 03, 2016
osedvgirl:
sex without moan is dead sex cry
Really? Anyways, I don't even like sex.
PoliticsRe: Buhari Ministers Split, 10 Likely To Tender Resignation Letters by Splinz(m): 11:25pm On May 03, 2016
Dudeweedlmao:
Excuses, lazy bunch of over pampered babies
You don't need to sleep in a 20million naira house in order to get your brain to work

There are three bedroom apartments in ABJ going for 12mill with swimming pool and all that fancy stuff
At least three ministers can join their 4mill each and rent the place. If you cant even live together, how can you work together?

Those 10 ministers should be shot in-between their eyes
Don't be ridiculous. All of those ministers have families, and you possibly don't expect them to squat as you've suggested. Even ordinary company's staffs, some of them don't stay in staffs quarters cos of inconveniences. How much more ministers of the fed rep?

My own is, if they can't cope with the provision of the law, they can resign.
PoliticsRe: Trump Blasts Nigeria Again, Calls Buhari ‘an Insensible President’ by Splinz(m): 11:01pm On May 03, 2016
This is where people normally say, "the truth is bitter". Indeed, Trump has said the bitter truth.
CelebritiesRe: Dele Momodu Prays For Tiwa Savage And Teebillz's Marriage by Splinz(m): 10:34pm On May 03, 2016
ivyy:
How does he know that Tunji is the love of Tiwa's life? huh
Because Tiwa was married to Tunji.
PoliticsRe: Lai Mohammed: A Masquerade Can Create Jobs For 1,000 Men by Splinz(m):
You see! Apparently Mr. Lie has spent more time in his village square than in Aso villa.
Christianity EtcRe: A Grace Preacher To Answer All Your Questions And settle your Confusions. by Splinz(m): 7:17pm On May 03, 2016
ValentineMary:
It seems u did not read d ans I gave those who said d same shit u said. Read above and quote me if u are fit enougg to ans
I can't answer a fool according to his folly, lest I be just like him. Go and reason with your likes, for we have nothing in common.
Christianity EtcRe: A Grace Preacher To Answer All Your Questions And settle your Confusions. by Splinz(m): 7:08pm On May 03, 2016
promise101:
I decided not to answer any atheist on this thread, but I just want to finally explain the confusion.

According to what you said, it was not God that narrated the incident, the incident was not received by revelation, rather it was an eye-witnessed incident. And it was written down, as witnessed.

So, the problem there was that, the eye-witnessed people weren't exposed to the kind of education we have now. That was why, they said it in that way, instead of saying that the earth stood still.

But, to show that it really happened, they knew that the earth stood still, but misinterpreted the event because they weren't exposed to the education we have now.
I take exception to this explanation! It is written, "Answer not a fool according to his folly, lest you be like him yourself. Answer a fool according to his folly, lest he be wise in his own eyes"- Proverbs 26:4-5. Don't know if you understand what that means. You have to retract your statement, for it written again, "All Scripture is given by inspiration of God", and this your explanation contradict this understanding because it suggest that God is liable to error, which is impossible! Joshua and the believers understood the context upon which that statement was used, and the unbelievers and scoffers have no business whatsoever in it!

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