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The Most Perfect Clock

You probably have a watch. Without it, you would be lost in a world that demands that people “be on time.”

Some watches are more accurate than others. How accurate is yours? How long before it loses a second? When this happens, you adjust it by reckoning from a more accurate source. That source, whatever it is, is also imperfect and has to be regularly updated, though not as often, to be in accord with the Master Clock of the United States at the Naval Observatory in Washington, D.C.

For many years, until 1967, Naval Observatory astronomers “observed” the motion of the earth, in relation to the heavens, to accurately measure time. All clocks in this country were set in relation to these very precise measurements. It was God who made this Master Clock of the Universe! He set the heavens in motion and mankind learned how to use its wonderful accuracy. As marvelous as this Great Clock is, the story does not end here.

In 1967, scientists built an “Atomic Clock.” It uses Cesium 133 atoms because they oscillate (vibrate) at the rate of 9,192,631,770 times per second. This produces accuracy within ONE SECOND EVERY 30 MILLION YEARS! Wouldn’t you love a watch that accurate? Cesium 133 atoms never vary a single vibration. They are steady—constant—reliable—and cannot be an accident of nature that just “happens” to always turn out exactly the same. God had to design the complexity and reliability of these atoms. No honest mind can believe otherwise. Men merely learned how to capture what God designed, for use in time measurement. Again, the story continues.

Doubters, consider this! Scientists in Boulder, Colorado, at the National Institute of Standards and Technology, have built an optical clock that is even more accurate. How? By measuring time with light. Time is now measured in what are called femtoseconds—or a million-billionth of a second. These clocks use mercury ions at their “heart” to count the number of times they vibrate in a second.
Optical frequencies regularly oscillate at one million-billion (1,000,000,000,000,000—one quadrillion) times per second. By using lasers and “cooled down” mercury ions, scientists have harnessed God’s precision to better measure time. Optical clocks only slip by ONE SECOND EVERY 30 BILLION YEARS! This is 1,000 times more accurate than atomic clocks!

All human watchmakers use extraordinary precision in their work. Quartz watches measure time by counting the exact number of oscillations of a quartz crystal through use of a digital counter. Digital clocks use the oscillations of quartz crystals or power lines (60 cycles per second in the United States), but may also count through use of digital counters. Grandfather clocks use the swing of a pendulum, once every second and recorded by metal gears inside the clock, to keep time.

As with the movement of the heavens, men have learned to capture the reliability of Cesium 133 atoms and the movement of cooled mercury ions to count time. Their number of oscillations per second never varies. Could this perfect order be the product of an accident?
In summary, only with great time and effort, the finest watchmakers in the world can, at best, devise several kinds of relatively imprecise clocks. Can any honest, fair-minded person then believe that the three highly precise clocks—the heavens, atomic and optical clocks—came about by accident? In other words, are we to believe that while very sophisticated, humanly devised watches required the effort and ingenuity of skilled, intelligent men to create them, clocks of far greater sophistication, precision and design developed on their own? How utterly ridiculous!

You have seen ABSOLUTE PROOF that only the “Greatest Watchmaker” could have devised these “greatest watches.”

Go nowhere! It is only getting started............. I'll be back with more shortly.

ValentineMary
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Cloudgoddess, etc. Lets trash it out!

SirWere:
Another post like this again


Ok, for the sake of argument, let us accept evolution is false. Can you provide me with evidence for Creationism Do mention me when you feel free.

For real, SirWere. The evidence is why we're here!

ValentineMary:
Lol. Don't forget to mention me.

The thread has been created, "Does God Exist?"

SirWere:
You should know, Adhominems and personal insults don't do anything..... Except bolster your ego maybe?

SirWere, the time is already here to settle this matter once for all. Find my just created thread, "Does God Exist?"

(NOTE: The work you're about to learn from isn't mine, but from a teacher and mentor).

Millions believe God exists! Few have proof. Have you proven that God exists? Or do you hope—suspect—feel—believe—think—He does? Can His existence be scientifically proven? Can you know with certainty that an all-intelligent Mind created the universe and all life on Earth—including you? Must the answers be “accepted on faith”? Let’s squarely face these questions![b][/b]

People have debated the existence of God for thousands of years. Most conclude that it cannot be proven—one way or the other. It is surmised that the correct answer lies in the area of abstract philosophy and the metaphysical. Others become agnostics, asserting that they “don’t know” if God exists. Those who do accept God’s existence often do so passively, merely because they were taught it from childhood. Some do not even care. Such people probably cannot be moved from their apathy. Atheists have concluded that God does not exist. These people represent a special category that God describes as, “The fool has said in his heart, There is no God” (Psa. 14:1). This scripture is repeated in Psalm 53:1. This booklet will explain why God calls atheists “fools.”
Over thirty-seven years ago, I learned of absolute proof that God exists. My studies lasted 2 1/2 years. I came to realize that I did not have to accept His existence “on faith.” Since that time, science has learned much more and the “case” for God’s existence has become far stronger than at any time in history. This booklet presents numerous absolute, immutable proofs that God does exist. After reading it, you will never again doubt the answer to this greatest of questions! Some proofs will amaze you. Others will inspire you. Still others will surprise or even excite you. All of them will fascinate you with their simplicity. We will first examine some traditional proofs and then consider material that rests on the cutting edge of scientific understanding, before returning to established proofs. You will learn from biology, astronomy, chemistry and mathematics.

Creation or Evolution?

There is an all-important question that is inseparable from the question of God’s existence. The question of whether life on Earth exists, because of blind, dumb luck and chance, through evolution, or because of special creation by a Supreme Being, cannot be avoided in studying the existence of God.
Did all life on Earth evolve over millions of years, as evolutionists assert—or did an all-powerful God author it at creation? Most people assume evolution is true, just as those who believe in God assume His existence. I also studied this question—evolution vs. creation—in depth, during the same period that I sought to prove God’s existence.
I learned that it takes far more “faith” to believe in the intellectually chic and fashionable evolutionary myth, than it does to believe in the existence of God. In fact, I learned that evolution is based entirely on faith, because no facts or proof have ever been found to support it!

Faith and Proof

Faith does play a role in the life of a Christian. For the person who truly wants to seek God and learn to please Him, notice:
“But without faith it is impossible to please Him: for he that comes to God must believe that He is, and that He is a rewarder of them that diligently seek Him” (Heb. 11:6). Faith is vital to a Christian. In fact, without it, no one can please God. Notice, this verse says that those seeking God “must believe that He is.” A deep belief in God, who “rewards” all who “diligently seek Him,” requires PROOF of His existence. After proof has been established, then—and only then—can one have FAITH—absolute CONFIDENCE—that what he does is being recorded in God’s mind, to be remembered when he receives his reward. If you are uncertain that God exists, because proof of that existence has not been firmly established, then, under fire, your faith will wane or disappear.

But Which God?

The apostle Paul wrote, “For though there be that are called gods, whether in heaven or in earth, (as there be gods many, and lords many,) but to us there is but one God, the Father, of whom are all things…HOWBEIT THERE IS NOT IN EVERY MAN THAT KNOWLEDGE” (I Cor. 8:5-7).
The religions of this world have created many gods of wood, stone and other material. Others exist only in the minds of men. The ancient Greeks alone served 30,000 gods and modern Hindus worship 5 million gods! Truly, there are, and have always been, “gods many, and lords many.” Yet, the God of the Bible created all the materials that men use to design their own gods. But, as Paul said, “there is not in every man that knowledge.”
Such unnecessary ignorance and confusion!

The God of the Bible has shown the way to peace, happiness and abundant life for all people willing to study His Instruction Book. Doing this would rid mankind of the confusion and evils that encompass this world. But, it is not our purpose here to prove that the God of the Bible is the one true God of creation.

What Science Tells Us

Be willing to examine science. As we reason, do not suppose or hope. Stand on indisputable facts. We will see facts from a broad array of different kinds of science. They will demonstrate that an all-powerful Supreme Being, of infinite intelligence, carefully provided more than sufficient proof to remove all doubt that He exists.
The Bible is God’s instruction to mankind. He expects all who are willing to read the Bible, to “Prove all things; hold fast that which is good” (I Thes. 5:21). Surely this God would not then expect us to assume His existence, while instructing us to prove everything else from His Word!
Before beginning this study, remember, assumptions do not count! Neither do superstitious myths or traditions based on ignorance! What can be known from science? Only accept facts. Think rationally and clearly. Then accept what can be proven!

At this point, you'll all take your seat and relax while we go for a short break...... Get ready for the bomb!!!

ValentineMary:
For a guy who depends on an imaginary deity for his intellect, I am not surprised.

I can't just help but feel pity for you, honestly. Anyways, expects an article from me soon on this section from my guardian and mentor. I tell you, it'll be something you've never in your whole life imagined or thought of. We'll trash it out science for science: logic for logic! Watch out!

Even in the face of fierce opposition and attacks, GEJ ever remain calm. This is the way of the righteous.

christiese:
Madam chill, I finished from uniuyo this is exactly uniuyo exam booklet, secondly this is not just a story it's real! Read what I wrote well I said the lecturer is my Pastor's wife the news is from a genuine source so dnt jump to comment wat u dnt know, besides the background of ur pix shows u have affiliation with uniuyo maybe u stay in hall 6 or something I can see hall 6 gate. If u r a student in uniuyo doesn't this booklet look like what u use for exam? Or u just feel like arguing, However, I won't even be surprise if this is your exam booklet cause the lecturer who released the photo said the script belong to a female student so mind how u defend cause i'll assume its yours.

You sef no get chill oo....... Na fight?

OP, nothing amuses me more like watching atheists denied the existence of God. Personally, I don't have any problem with their assertions because I know for real what is at play.

Now, denying that which exist does not necessarily translate to a non existence of the existent. It may really not exist in a sense, but of course only as a figment of imagination of the doubter.

Here is it. An atheist is saying there's no God. Does that mean he's right and I'm wrong as a Christian? No! Likewise, I'm saying the theory of evolution is complete nonsense. To an atheist, I'm I right and he's wrong? Again, no!

What then is the problem? Difference in beliefs! I'm not on the same footing with an atheist, neither is he. So how do we solve this differences? Simple. As an atheist, keep your own beliefs and I'll keep mine as a Christian. For they say, "another man's food is another man's poison".

So OP, do not let anyone cheat you through empty philosophy and logic. Stand firm in your faith!

first question; Does this mean that God lied about eve dying? Does that mean God justifies lying in other to achieve ones goal? If this is so that is to say there are many other lies God has told in the Bible or please explain

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Okay, Resurgence. Lets do it this way. Before attempting to answer this very question and provide you with the best answer, kindly answer this question first. Did Eve eventually die or not, i.e, is Eve still alive or death?

ValentineMary:
If they had died, it is their time but if they smartly escape, God saved them. Lol

U sound so stupid

Fool!

malvisguy212:
my brother, arguing with this atheist is something else. Can you imagine what the op said ? " God protect me yet I still have to look road before I cross" what a foolish atheist indeed. You even have time to reply him. Very dumb atheist.

Bro, follies of these so-called atheists is simply colossal! I tell you, I'm yet to meet fools that equal their rank.

ValentineMary:
And u honestly believe u are sane

@ The bolded, what of the case of little children who don't know d danger behind doing certain stuffs? Did God protect them

What of those people that a driver hit at the bus stop the other day because of reckless driving, who was careless the innocent guys at d bustop or d driver? but why did God allow those innocent fellows die

It seems u don't consider many things before u "logically" defend ur God. What do u expect from a theist anyways

What fallacies of Hasty Generalization! However, even though your foolery is glaring, I'll still school you. "But why did God allow those innocent fellows die?" Because it is appointed unto man to die once! Where have you ever heard that because God will protect you, you're exempted from that which is appointed unto every man? Or does it mean you still don't wanna have even a little sense?

Did your Maker (whether you accept Him or not) not rightly called you a fool? For indeed, foolishness runs in your vein.

ValentineMary:
Typical christian. Another person that does not believe in their God is a fool and yet they don't believe in other people's God.

It seems u find logic very hard to comprehend. What do u expect from a theist anyway From what I said earlier, for the very fact that we ACTIVELY participate in our survival without God's intervention makes him inefficient if he exist. If God is real as u claim, why not he participate actively in our lives? why do I have to give an imaginary deity recognition for my action

You don't understand nor know anything! Why would God participate in your SURVIVAL in a clear act of foolishness, lets say, drinking to stupor or carelessly crossing the road when you know of the dangers it portend, or have you not learn of Cause and Effect in your own school? Have I not told you that He is a wise God and an advocate of what is right and good?

Lets even come to a footing level. Were those eyes of yours and brain given you for no use? Were they not so you could discern what's right and wrong? Then why would you tempt God in your foolishness and expects Him to come to your rescue? If I for instance now, knowingly put my hand in a burning fire, does that bears any semblance of sense to you?

My friend, if you were taught this way about God's working, I wasn't taught foolishly! And if by understanding logic, you mean I should become a fool, keep your own version of that logic!

There were no more prophets after Jesus. And till today, there are non except impostors. However, there will be last two great prophets at the close of age, Revelation 11:3-12.

focus7:
All these ones you mentioned are learners. If all these people are thieves, Jonathan is a mega arm robber. Are you not following the ongoing probe? Mind you, the probe going on is still just on arms gate and stolen funds for campaign, you can just imagine the revelations we will have when the oil sectors and government agencies probe begins, Abacha and Babangida are players where Jonathan operates.

Why is GEJ still not in prison?

ValentineMary:
Okay let me get it straight, God protects me yet I still have to look to cross d road, he guides me and I still have to buy a big padlock for my gate at night, he gives me health and I still buy drugs with my money when am sick. Hmmm sounds like a very efficient God.

"A fool says in his heart there is no God". Indeed, your foolery is simply astonishing!

What! "God protects me yet I still have to look the road before crossing?" and other nonsense! So being a fool has deprived you of even common sense? Surprisingly, you're probably among the self acclaimed intelligent people. But in reality, very dumb set!

Hear, O ValentineMary! Our God is not an author of confusion and unrighteousness. He is no advocate of sheer foolishness, but One who commands what is right and in order.

Now, according to your logic, does it mean those that watch the road before crossing are never involved in an accident? Locked their door and never broken in? Take drugs and all recovered?

"To him that knows what is right and does it not, to him it is sin". Cleared! You can't choose to dwell in your follies and then expects the ever wise God to concur with you. No, He's too wise!

Probably you never knew that before you even learned of Cause and Effect in school, God has already taught it to His people right from time. So, whether you believe in God or not (of course it is your business), do not make it a duty to display your follies always!

In this chapter and verses of the Bible, the Catholic church constantly hyped on it telling the whole world how Christ established His Church on Peter, and ordained him as the first Pope. Well, lets see if their assertions are true.

In these verses, Christ stated, “And I say unto you, that you are Peter, and upon this Rock I will build My church; and the gates of hell shall not prevail against it. And I will give unto you the keys of the kingdom of heaven: and whatsoever you shall bind on earth shall be bound in heaven: and whatsoever you shall loose on earth shall be loosed in heaven.”
In order to understand the meaning here, we must start reading from Matt. 16:13. Christ asked the disciples, “Whom do men say that I the Son of man am?”
Peter answered, “ You [Jesus] are the Christ, the Son of the living God” (vs. 16). Then Christ responded, “You are Peter [petros, which means little rock], and upon this rock [petra, means very great rock, referring to Christ Himself] I [pointing to Himself] will build My church” (vs. 18). Most people assume here that Christ is building His Church on Peter. But this is not the case. Christ is the great “Rock” upon whom the Church is built (Deut. 32:3-4, 15, 18; I Cor. 10:4; Eph. 2:20; I Pet. 2:6), not Peter (Eph. 1:22; 5:23; Col. 1:18).

Christ was telling Peter that He (Christ) was about to establish the New Testament Church, lead it (Eph. 5:23), be with it always (Matt. 28:20), and that the gates of hell [Hades—the grave] would never prevail against it. God’s Church was to continue to exist, doing His Work through the ages as a “little flock” (Luke 12:32), until the end of the age, when it would circle the whole world with the good news of the kingdom of God (Matt. 24:14). This Church would be persecuted (John 15:20; 16:33), but would never die out, remaining until Christ’s Return.
In Matthew 16:19, Christ continues, “And I will give unto you the keys of the kingdom of heaven…” The “keys” He is referring to here is symbolic language meaning that He gives His ministers the knowledge of how to enter the kingdom. This knowledge shows the way of life a Christian must follow in order to achieve salvation. Luke 11:52 shows Christ reproving certain lawyers for hiding or suppressing this knowledge, thus preventing themselves and others from entering the kingdom.

Continuing, “…and whatsoever you shall bind on earth shall be bound in heaven: and whatsoever you shall loose on earth shall be loosed in heaven…” Some will say that this verse gives men the power or authority to change what God has said in the Bible. This is absolutely not the case! No man can change what God has said! The true ministers of God have been given the authority to bind only that which is in agreement with God’s laws. That, then, would be backed up—bound—by God. When God’s ministers make a decision, it is based on Scripture—based on God’s will. But this in no way is giving ministers the power to forgive sin. Only God can and does that (Mark 2:7). God does give ministers the ability to discern when a person has repented of certain sins, thus concluding that God has forgiven them.

Now, with this explanation/clarification, the much hyped authority of the papacy is striped, and its foundation as built on lies and deceit! However, there still remain a question. Where is the Church Christ built? Find out!

To be continued...........

Sorry OP, Jesus was never the founder of the Catholic Church, which is obviously founded on faulty ground and lies!

Be not deceived by the Catholic hierachy who think they're sort of special and whom allegiance must be paid by all. For I tell you, the wicked lie told that Jesus commissioned Peter to be the first Pope hold no water when a closer look at what Christ meant is taken.

Nevertheless, Jesus did built His Church and it still exist today. But the mistake the Catholic always make is to think itself as the true Church! Or have you not learned of how this your church used instrument of State (Roman empire) in terrorizing and killing those true Christians who wouldn't submit to its fold of pagan ways and doctrines of demons?

Go and learn that part of history. And then come and tell us the resemblance of those atrocities with Christ.

ThatVvnGurl:
Why you MUST? Bro salvation is not by force. this your topic just vex me.

Exactly, salvation is never by force. I think the MUST is rather too extreme. Nevertheless, the OP has driven home some strong points.

goodnews201668:
Some know the truth but the problem is admitting it.

Right.

plaetton:
I wanted to open a thread on this topic of freewill.

Now that you've asked, when I have time later, I will offer some scientific proofs that even your religious beliefs are biologically and sociologically driven, and not really a choice of your free will as are want to think.

There's a problem, bro. You see, it is still pointless because I may or may not believe your scientific proofs.

And so in the end, it still narrows down to what? My free will! I've said it before that we all have our different views and opinions about almost everything, and personally, I don't have any problem with whatsoever you choose at your own discretion to believe or believe not.

So, the best thing to do like I've opined before is to keep your own belief and I'll keep mine! And if at any point in time, I found out that your views are better than mine, I may, still of my free will choose to accept it and change my stand.

goodnews201668:
Just wait they'll come and call you an atheist for not supporting Trinity. Or they'll say it's a mystery.

Bro, if only they'll even come and say any of that. All they do is to sneaked in and out. I think this truth is just too bitter for the trinitarians, hence, why they're all running away.

plaetton:
Correction.

We do not have freewill, or as free a will as you think.

We are encumbered by many many extraneous impulses, instinctive drives, biologically and psychologically driven needs and drives.

Our brain tricks us to accept our biologically and psychologically driven impulses as have been originated from wills.

Most , in fact, the majority of our acts do not originate from our Will.

Oh! All of a sudden, you're no longer in control but one pitiably driven by instincts, psychological and biological impulses?

While these factors may play out some will in us, they do not decide my faith, specifically the existence or non existence of God! Your brain begins to play tricks on you the moment you strip yourself of its power, and cling to what is inferior.

So you see, I have free will, which is what I've just used to think differently! Same with my belief or not in God, which I said, "I have mine to keep and you have yours too!".

Now, can we correctly conclude that your belief or not in God is directly influenced by all of these factors which you've opined?

One of the reason why "free will" is inherent in man is for him to think independently!

Now, whether you believe in or not in the existence of the Supreme Being called God, is entirely your business! Has anyone or God Himself ever comes to you and said, "You must worship God by force?". I don't think so.

So, I find it very irrational and disturbing seeing people dissipate a lot of energies arguing the existence and non existence of God. And I ask: for what exactly? Does it change my beliefs or yours? For we all have our different views and beliefs to keep.

So then, keep yours and I'll keep mine!

efismikoko:
Please Christians if god cursed Eve after she ate the forbidden fruit that she will give birth in pains why do other animals feel pain when they do give birth
This to me prove that the bible was written by men and was not inspired by any god

You're just one of those scoffers wanting to scoff. For if you sincerely wanted to learn, you wouldn't have made the heretical statement that the bible is the work of men. Or how will you be edify by the same work you've rubbished as that of men?

Go ahead and believe whatever that suits you. I tell you, it doesn't change any of God's word from what it is- the truth!

Who's this idiot?

Theophinio:
Nice one @Splinz
But you throwing more light on your comment would be appreciated

Okay, the government of God is just like every other government run by men. Of course with the exception that the latter ruled supreme, righteous and perfect.

Every government on earth has its own territory, however, the government of God on earth wouldn't be limited by space, as it'll rule all over the nations of the earth, teaching mankind the way of peace, love and prosperity. Government of men are run by flesh and blood as against the Kingdom of God whose officials will be composed of "spirits of just men made perfect", headed by Christ. And yes, the government of God on earth will restore one pure language for the whole world (Zephaniah 3:9), as there wouldn't be anything like language barrier.

In all, the Kingdom of God is indeed a super-government in which man can never have on its own.

Theophinio:
My fellow Christians in the house, please clarify this spiritual truth for a brother.
Thanks as you do so
#PEACE

The terms are but one thing, used interchangeably.

Now, the Kingdom (Note: the word "kingdom" is an old English word meaning government) of God or heaven is of two type:
1. Government of God "in" heaven (present).
2. Government of God "on" earth, Revelation 11:15. Jesus second coming is to this effect.

I hope this helps?

Seems he's a cult leader.

"JTF should not attack and arrest innocent people in Ijaw communities; they should go for the real saboteurs". This is exactly what we're saying, cos we know Nigerian soldiers to be very unprofessional and cowardly, as they'll rather vent their anger and frustrations on innocent citizens.

GloriaNinja:
this world is a mystery, i also wonder how people multiplied, which means brothers married their sisters, there is a change most people on earth are related.

There's no mystery when faced with the truth, as mystery only exist in ignorance. All of these confusions here and there are needless, for you can know the truth. Don't forget it was said, "And you shall know the truth, and the truth shall set you free". Learn the truth that you may be set free from lies, deceit and confusions.