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iamoyindamola:
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Is House of Dragon season two out. The sequel to GOT

dominique:
Firstly, will I be needing to pay monthly subscription after installation of the dish? Secondly will I be getting quality English speaking movies, kiddies, variety and sports channels?

The truth is that you can get all those from free to air to a reasonable extent. So when I say preference I mean how do you really want any of those. For example, if your kids want specific cartoon series then FTA is not for you or if you want all and every live sport event then FTA is not for you. But if you're the occasional type that just want to keep your eyes busy with entertainment, then you can try FTA.

Metro digital is cheap option for pay TV if paying a monthly subscription of about N5k isn't much.

Jodera:
How many times does he consistently drop deep and play make?
He's always the furthest amongst all our forwards

All his link up is mostly near the opposition box or inside and he mostly does holdup plays. There's a reason he's called the perfect "back to goal striker".

Like I said, you don't know what false 9 is and you're afraid to research about it for fear of being proved wrong.

To be wrong once in a while no dey kee person but na you sabi...

I have done my research and I know where your opinion is originating from. I deliberately wanted to force you to leak it out yourself but you are smart not to. So I will do it for you.

Your problem is that you do not have a unique understanding or conviction about who a false 9 is and that is why it is difficult for you to explain what you read. The writer of the article you and Toluxe read was even confused about making examples that is why he was shouting Mourinho. Kane is a striker by all standards and no sensible manager will ask a goal machine like him to leave that duty and start making assists or creating chances instead.

Leave blogs and pundits and go to proper coaching sources for better information.

Kane is a striker and not a false 9. Good examples are Messi, Fabregas, KDB, Bernado etc. And if you notice you will see Pep or Kruff written all over those examples and not Mourinho.

A typical Mourinho striker is a big bully like Drogba, Costa, Kane etc not false 9s. It is not a Mourinho tactics to play a false 9. Never.

Next step is to beat Tottenham by all means available

Jodera:
This thing is you've already made up your mind on what you think false 9 is. Anywhere you research, you will find out you're wrong that's why you certainly don't want to do it.
No place and no footballing person will tell you only Midfielders play as false 9. You just made that up and you're sticking with it.

I won't explain further on that Giroud matter cos we all watched Giroud and knows he never played anything close to false 9

Off course Giroud can never be a false 9, except according to your description which you have denied.

There was no pragmatism in Brighton's approach. Too arrogant.

Roland17:
We better stay away if the goal is to get a traditional CF that will be in scoring areas. He has excellent technique and dribbling skills. He also does well carrying the ball from deep into dangerous areas but he isn't going to score a lot of goals. I watch a lot of him since I follow the Serie A also cos of my Milan team.

He is just a healthier and younger version of Jesus.

We should be looking at Viktor Gyokeres at Sporting CP.

mostob:
Let me clarify something here. False 9 is neither a position nor a name on the field. It is a ROLE. A role that can be played by both midfielders and strikers. It is a definition of what you play and how you play on the field.

Another funny attempt at grasping straws just to score a point. Every position is a role and every role has a name. Please respect our senses here.

Jodera:
It is more than just helping.

When a striker CONSISTENTLY drop deeps to interplay and Link up Even when his team is with the ball, then you should know that's unusual cos any striker will ought to be at the end of chances when his team is in possession instead of partaking in build-up. That's exactly what Van Persie explained in the screenshot I sent.
And like you said, Kane in the Tottenham latter years(under Mou to be specific) changed to one and if you mostly read Bayern page, you'll find out initially how they all complain Kane drops deep even when they're with the ball.

The only reason why Midfielders were used is because they have the tendency and impatience to always want to be with the ball and build up unlike strikers— not like some strikers can't do it but it'll be difficult cos they're not wired that way. (I mean how will you tell Rvn or inzaghi to interplay? Even Auba couldn't do it sef)

But it's very funny that Rvp and Wenger used their own mouth to say that Rvp played as False 9 yet Spy still deh bring semantics.

You are already losing touch with the bolded. So we can also call Giroud a false 9?

The idea of a false 9 emanates from the fact that the person is not a 9. This is basic logic.

germaphobe:
I agree with you on this, some might say we're wrong but this is a fact(or whatever) I know about football. Because a recognized striker drops deep to help the team doesn't make him a false nine(they should probably find another word to replace that "false). Kane that I know of only started dropping and helping his teammates during the later days of his Tottenham days. Henry at some point started dropping to help his teammates too, we shouldn't call them false nine. RVP was amazing in that aspect too but he wasn't a FALSE nine, he was a complete nine with a desire to help everyone. Anyways what do I know, I'm just a fan who loves watching and playing football.

You are hundred percent correct.

A striker is a striker no matter where he goes even if he chooses to go and defend cornerkick which we know many do. He is still the striker.

Akinbahm:
When a striker is in midfield, we call him SS (supporting striker) abi what do we call him?

I dey always enjoy your takes, na comic relief for person wey get stressful day.

Bros how far

You only have a SS when they are two upfront.

Like in a 4-4-2 or 3-5-2. One of them is the main striker and the other the support striker. Sometimes the both of them can swap roles depending on how they choose to partner each other, like Dwight Yorke and Andy Cole. Some managers can also use an AM as a SS like Wenger did with Bergkamp (Wenger was always revolutionary, turning known tactics upside down).

dominique:
I don't understand, does FTA run with data? I thought all one had to do is to install the dish and start watching free channels depending on signals



My tired is tired of them. If not for my children, I would have tossed their decoder in the bin years ago. I've considered smart Tv with unlimited Internet but I can't risk them having all that freedom and option of downloading whatever they like.

What are your preferences?

toluxe0075:
In other words, Messi, Firmino, Kane, Griezmann Benzema have never played as false 9 in their career. Only Fabregas, Bernado silva, Foden and Havertz have done that.

Fantastic football knowledge.

You can not call a striker playing upfront false. That's where he is expected to be.

Kane is a striker saying he is a false 9 is stupid. Don't do that. It's stupid.

When a fullback is in midfield we say he is inverted. If he is a midfielder we don't say he is inverted.

When a goalkeeper uses his feet, we can him sweeper keeper. When a defender does that we don't call him sweeper keeper because he is just a sweeper.

When a striker is a 9, you don't call him false. Wow! That's stupid. We call him striker. If it's a midfielder we see there then we say he is a false 9.

That's the idea. Every other thing you said about creating chances for others is correct.

mostob:
Totally unrelated example. What of the time he ran just 5m? What excuse would you have given then?

Use your head.

Toluxe0075

You quoted a simple definition I gave just to discredit me with an epistle. Imagine putting up all those words just to explain false 9.

My simple definition is a midfielder playing upfront. That is the player possesses the skills of a midfielder but is positioned as a striker. You mentioned them as dribbling, ball control, creativity etc.

The examples you gave also justified my claims. Bernado, Messi, Bellingham etc were all midfielders in advanced roles.

Also as you said that a striker drops deep could be due to lack of seeing the ball not necessarily because he has to. In a low block the striker will have less of the ball and will drop deep but he will always be the most advanced player in his team. For a false 9 it is his duty and not just him doing it. Even strikers drop deep to defend. That doesn't make them false 9s.

There is a difference between a midfielder in an advanced role and a striker dropping deep. The bolded is what's a false 9. Common sense will tell you that if he is a striker already there's no point calling him false. It a midfielder is playing midfield will you call him false 10? Makes no sense. The false in that term is because he is not a striker in the first place.

Kane drops deep because that's his pattern not because the coach wants him to. Even at Spurs he does that too. We cannot look at Harry Kane in a team and say he is playing false 9 because he drops deep at times. Kane does that simply to evade markers. That's his pattern. But when you have Kane in your team you don't say he is a false 9. That would be stupid. You can easily replace Kane with Lewandoski, does that change anything? No. If you substitute Kane with Chipo Moting will he also drop deep? No.

mostob:
There is absolutely no excuse why a player should be wasting chances. Na you know where you carry your own excuse come from.

It's not an excuse it's a reason.

It's like asking someone to run 200m before jumping a bar. Even if the bar is less that 50cm high, that person will not get it 100%.

mostob:
It is not an uphill task. If Gabriel Jesus can just convert 60% of his chances, we would have had one in our hand. But baba go dey dance atilogwu.

I agree

Jodera:
Kane is a false 9.
I don't blame you cos your football na mostly Livescores

This is Van Persie been branded false 9 as far back as 2009 and even Rvp sef have called himself a False 9 , the last picture.(in this case he called it 9½ ; variant between 9 and 10)

Anybody who watches Van Persie during his time knows this. But I guess you're not familiar with the word then.

I will always teach you new things but no worries, that's why we're Arsenal brothers

Kane is already a true 9. He does not even drops deep because he is always their most forward player.

You are saying this because you saw Kane holding ball against Arsenal. But forgetting that they were playing in a low block. Kane was still their farthest player.

When you say a striker drops deep, it means he is no longer the farthest player.

Van Persie was not originally a striker. He was converted by Wenger just as Henry. But under Ferguson he was a true 9. Man United bought him as a true 9.

mostob:
How about we get someone that can score goals, play as an AM and still act as decoy? Wouldn't be bad right?

Very possible but it will be an uphill task and such a player does not exist amongst the top clubs.

Victor Gyokeres is a good example but there is no guarantee that he will succeed under the conditions of the PL.

mostob:
Shey una dey hear excuse. Because a player is involved in build up play, he is free to waste chances?

It is not that he is free to waste, but I just gave you the reason why he wastes chances. If you want him to score more he has to be less involved. A good example is Nketiah.

I have done this argument with Jodera and he saw it, please trace it back I don't have time.

mostob:
A false 9 doesn't necessarily mean a midfielder playing as striker, that's where you're getting things wrong. Jesus wey you dey call false 9 no be striker?

A false 9 is more of a role than a position or Identity.

Lol

If a striker is playing striker does it change anything?

For it to be false, it has to be a midfielder playing as a striker.

Abeg nor argue semantics with me. I pass that level.

Jodera:
Kane is the perfect false 9 striker presently.

If you think Kane pro Mourinho is not a False 9, then Tbh maybe you've not been watching him all these while

First of all, what is a false 9?

Let's start from there because it seems you probably are using a wrong term to describe what you want.

A false 9 is a midfielder playing upfront. Like Cesc Fabregas for Barcelona those days.

Harry Kane for all intent is a striker, a 9 and not a false 9 please. May be you didn't get the definition right which misinformed all of us.

Jodera:
Anybody who followed our argument then knows that his clinicality was because of too much romancing the ball and not been able to score goals even when the chance presented itself.
He's always at the end of all our whole chances and I told you that he playing as a false 9 didn't stop him from getting chances to score, yet you claimed otherwise that he needs to play as a natural 9(using mitrovic and other Strikers as example), so that he won't be "tired" when such chance presented itself.

How you'll claim a year later that you're a proponent of false 9 while I'm a proponent of natural 9 is befuddling.

Anything just to claim W sha,

You have never been a proponent of false 9. This is you few minutes ago...

Jodera:
I swearrr....
And now I'm completely agreeing with you, the team structure is set. We need a perfect 9.

Where can we get a Van Persie or Kane abeg.

With any of those two clones, nothing wey we no go win

Stay one place make prayer work for ya head uncle. You have never liked the idea of a false 9.

Jodera:
I swearrr...
Omorrrr, this team is almost set.

We just need that Kane type of striker that knows how to play this system well. Person that know how to interplay yet still be ruthless and know when to attack the box. The kind false 9s we're having now is just lacking that right instincts to attack the box.

We'll be deadly if we get such

You see ya life

Jodera:
I suspect he's carrying an injury but because no trustworthy and reliable deputy, Arteta doesn't bench him.

We're not benching him to relegate him, it's just to recharge and heal better. A Saka that's fully on form can't be benched by anybody cos he's that good. But it's doing nobody any favours if he continues this way.

I mean, how can Saka doesn't have the confidence to beat a player again. He hardly press too

This is more than form, there's an underlying issue I'm suspecting

Saka is carrying an injury and he will treat it after the season/Euros.

BlueRayDick:
I don't know why DaveP has refused to see things that way. He keeps yawning for a big bully striker who will come and impose himself upfront.

Arteta will most likely sign a striker but the player will be in the mould of Nketiah, Gabriel Jesus, etc. Strikers who are not going to really be that tall imposing figure in the box, but rather an attacker who partake in the free-flowing attacking football we play and can also hit his shot well.

Gbam

Jodera:
Please, Biko, don't start.
That was never what we argued last season and certainly not against me that's proponent of a good False 9 In a structured team.

Iamoyin.damola and bluera.ydick wey dey troll me for those kind of strikers naim you claim you had such argument with me, when in actual fact it's the opposite.

Abeg don't start!!

When we argued about GJ not scoring goals like a typical striker that scores 20+ goals a season. You said he wasn't clinical as a striker, I said he cannot be clinical because he gets involved with open play which means he is not always available for the final pass. Though you finally came to terms but have forgotten that you were actually against not having a striker.

No wahala

daveP:
Is that a rhetorical question? Lol. Don't make me laugh. Your manager knows this. You should too. Not someone that blows hot or cold. That won't stop me from saying he had an impressive 2nd half.👏🏾👏🏾👏🏾

We have a scored 104goals already this season. More than Man City with Haaland, and Liverpool with Nunes or whoever. So how would we convince the owners that we need a striker. What would be his job? Score goals?

I have stated here times without number (but you guys are not humble enough to give me my flowers ) that as far as Arteta's tactics is concerned, he does not need a traditional striker. That the reason is because whoever is playing front is only acting as a decoy. He is actually an AM. He prefers a multiple outlet for goals than a single one. That is why despite scoring 100+ goals, no one has scored a hat trick this season.

When I had that argument with Jodera about Gabriel Jesus not playing as a striker he thought I was silly. You know a striker from his movements and positioning. Kai Havertz is another perfect example of an AM playing as a striker, someone who can drop deep to overload the middle. These are Arteta's tactics this season and it has worked tremendously well for him.

See, any time Arteta goes for a striker which is possible just know that he wants to change tactics (or perhaps have an alternative tactics) to what we are currently playing. But as far as this tactics is concerned, we don't need a traditional goal scorer. We only need players who can drop deep from attacking position.

daveP:
Goals were raining and Saka was not on score sheet shows how "finished" his state of mind is rn

We need to sign a striker. Don't we?

Iamoyindamola that our resident madman never visit us today. Freddie the frog ooo

iamoyindamola:
All of a sudden arteta is our saviour
No other coach can lead or survive in arsenal
Arteta way they use arsenal learn work is the saviour 🤣🤣🤣

Lol

I blame you because you couldn't convince us otherwise. Imagine the option you dey give us. Like make JayZ leave Beyonce for Tonto Dike say wetin? 😂😂😂

BlueRayDick:
Iamoyindamola has recommended De Zerbi and Girona coach .

Lol.

Na these ones go defeat Pep and Klopp in a title race?

People don't regard what they have until they lose.

You only know your lover when you let her go


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