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OkpaNsukkaisBae:
U shld pick a side bro. Are u arguing abt Jordan & Palenstine or Palenstine & Israel.

Israel is Israel the same way Jordan is Jordan.

So why aren't the Palestinians dragging land with Jordan? In fact Jordan once annexed West Bank and East Jerusalem in 1947 but Israel got it back in 1967. Jordan surrendered in 1988.

You see, your problem is lack of knowledge of history. That is why having a conversation is difficult.

Melvyn11:
This is how I understand this Israel and Palestine land stuff from what have seen online.


Let's use Ondo and Yoruba to depict Israel and Jews. Let's say Ondo is a Yoruba state that was conquered by Hausa. Hausa began ruling and staying in Ondo after conquering it driving the Yoruba people to all over Nigeria. After few years the Hausa empire in Ondo fell and Igbo(Britain) took over. Igbo now decided to call back the Yoruba people displaced all over Nigeria back to Ondo state. Hausa people(Palestine) were already settled there. Yoruba people displaced from Ondo now came back and Igbo (Britain) now said we will divide the state into 2 for peace to reign. Hausa take one half while Yoruba take the other but Hausa refused and started waging war against the Yorubas.

Imagine that you leave this planet and return back in 500years time only to discover that American Christians now live in Mecca and Medina because Arab Muslims have been scattered all over the world. Then when the Arab Muslims decide to return especially because of their holy land- Mecca and Medina, the American Christians start calling them land grabbers and claiming they are Meccans because they were born there and they have a church cathedral there. 😂.

OkpaNsukkaisBae:
Which home/land? The Jews are scattered all over Europe, North America & Middle East..even in Africa. If they had a home/land, dem for flee Nazi Germany & run back to their village.

You will also have to explain how the Hashemites who are Arabians became kings in Jordan. Same Jordan that was part of British Mandate of Palestine.

I thank Afrodoc2 for this one.

raumdeuter:
By whom? Many who just wake up and claim they heard God's word in their sleep and open church years later promote themselves to Bishops

In my secondary school yearset alone we have almost 10 people who are now claiming to be Pastors Bishops apostles etc and one common thing with most of them was that they failed to secure admission into University so they found this as an alternate means to survive

Do you really think that Bishop or Apostle in that uncompleted building close to your house was ordained by any authority?

The truth is Christianity as a religion is too liberal especially in this modern times. Anyone as in anyone can easily name himself Bishop.

The question of Israel Vs Palestine is not about Gaza or West Bank but about Jerusalem. The Arabs want the Palestinians to remain in order to keep the question of Jerusalem open for debate.

seunmsg:
And removing Tinubu will bring down the price of imported rice from 48k to 35k, right?

You think Tinubu is responsible for the inflation that is being felt all over the world? Do you guys really understand the fundamentals that drive the economy?

You are outside the country saying this. Rubbish

Dennisbulkan:
Because if they do, by allowing them run away from their home to another country as refugees that would be the last time they see their home as Israeli land grabbers would not allow them return just like they did Nakba. I recommend you read about Nakba if you're genuinely interested & appreciate history & facts. The best way to keep Israel's hands off Gaza now is to not allow exodus of refugees out of gaza. It's bad but they have to sit it out if they want to keep Gaza.

That fact that you lack basic history makes conversation difficult.

By the way the question of Israel Vs Palestine is not about Gaza or West Bank but about Jerusalem. The Arabs want the Palestinians to remain in order to keep the question of Jerusalem open for debate.

OkpaNsukkaisBae:
If u don't know that the West created a national home for the Jewish people scattered all over the world in Palenstine territory.... we shld not be having such discussion.

I am not arguing about this. But why are you dodging the question?

Who are the Palestinians?

Are they Jews or Arabs or what?

OkpaNsukkaisBae:
U mean buybull history or real world history?

Tell us the origin of the Palestinians. Who are they?

OkpaNsukkaisBae:
I guess manure suppose suspend or terminate Sancho's contract after he clashed with Ten Hag? abi wetin u think?

Individual differences

OkpaNsukkaisBae:
The land belong to them. Why will they leave their land? Egypt & co know that once they evacuate them to another country, Israel will occupy that land.

History does not support this claim

OkpaNsukkaisBae:
Why will Mainz suspend their player? ordinary pro Palenstine tweet. daz censorship.

That's corporate differences

OkpaNsukkaisBae:
More like a massive L for western democracy. Freedom of speech in the mud

Why isn't Egypt or Jordan (fellow Arab Muslims) open their borders to save the lives of Palestinians?

You are crying more than the bereaved

Emaprince:
Dey play.

Go see the hammas charter.

Na their body go tell them. It's not my child being bombed.

The truth is that the so called Palestines are sustained by Iran and allowed by Saudi Arabia as an excuse to lay claim to Jerusalem.

Amoto94:
I didn't support and I condemned them (Hamas) and asked Palestinians to leave the land to safeguard their lives pending when divine intervention will come this led to OkpaNsukkaisbae and Amigoss to say that when will divine intervention come? It is ridiculous to now say I support Hamas actions

Advice Hamas and those Arabs to go back to their country of origin or choose to live in peace with Israel so that all these senseless killings will stop. There's no way Israel is going to forfeit that land again after all we know in history. It's enough seeing innocent children die for a senseless cause- Jerusalem.

Ellexy:
Hamas is fighting for the Palestinians and you support them. When they attacked Israeli civilians you didn't post any of this islam against extremism, you were busy praying and standing with them. You only started with your articles about humanity when Isreal decided to defend itself and fight back.

Ask yourself why doesn't Jordan allow Palestinians into their country? Same with Egypt. Same with Saudi Arabia. Lebanon that tried it are regretting it.

The so called Palestinians (fake identity) are all dissidents Arabs from accross the Muslim Arab world who have been placed there simply to terrorise Israel and make sure Jerusalem doesn't come under their control. So from time to time they ask them to attack Israel so that the crisis will always remain fresh.

Yassa Arafat said so that there's nothing as the People of Palestine or state of Palestine. They are only there to terrorise Israel.

Roland17:
Wetin be dis naw

No mind Blueraydick

Since Jodera no day, my activity reduce now he is back.... make I allow am rest small first. But ...

The only person wey fit stand argument with me.

Jodera:
Good day everyone.
Thanks, thanks so much for your concern about my absence and wellbeing. To say I'm truly overwhelmed and grateful is me not doing justice to it enough. I'm truly blown away by all your gestures. God bless you all.

Actually, I'm was preparing for a promotional exam(that was early last month) so I decided to take a little time off then I'll be back but unfortunately I fell seriously ill soon after. It was severe that I had to be admitted for weeks in the hospital reason I had this prolonged absence. I thank God for life and recovery (just got discharged last week Wednesday).

I know say I missed a lot of things sha(first two UCL matches, Havertz first goal, NLD derby and Man city win). Though I was grateful to watch the full replay of our win against Man city and I enjoyed every bit of it.

Good to be back here once again and I'm really thankful to you all (I can't emphasize this enough)

Hopefully, we'll win against our London neighbors this weekend. E be like say dem don dey catch their groove back

COYG!!!

Roland17
Iamoyindamola
Mostob
Shegzdave
ObaIgwe
Blueraydick
Spy360
DaveP
Akinbahm
Lush100

Welcome back brother. I missed your analysis. Thank God you are back. I just dey imagine how you dey shout goal on top sick bed. Thank God for recovery.

Amigoss:
Half a million dolls went into addressing empty seats

But they will shout 🔥 hundred times and blame you for complaining.

afrodoc2:
I don’t understand your question. And in what way do they not fall into the group that can use that name?
Like I said there were many non-Jewish people in the area that we now call Palestine; Arabs, Samaritans, Edomites (Idumeans), Arameans, Phoenicians, etc

If we are to go by historical claim (which is not going to happen anyway) the Jews do not have a claim to the whole of modern day Israel. The better way to do it is to share the land since both groups are already there now, but instead both groups appear to prefer to eliminate the other group from the land.

The issue is the question of Jerusalem. Who deserves it? Even if you give those Palestinians 99% of the land, they will not accept without Jerusalem. Who should get Jerusalem?

afrodoc2:
This question requires foolscap sheet to answer. To summarise:

The current Palestinian region (Israel, West Bank, Gaza) is the area of the Kingdoms of Israel, Judah, Edom, and the Philistines in biblical times.

Gaza strip area is where the biblical Philistines lived but that ethnic group vanished a long time ago.

The current Palestinians are a mix of 1) non-Jewish indigenes of the area e.g Edomites, Phoenicians (Lebanese), 2) Arab immigrants into the area, and 3) Jews and Christians who converted to Islam during the over 1,200 years of Islamic rule.

Technically anybody from the region qualifies to be called Palestinian but the Muslim segment has acquired it for themselves while the Jews prefer to be called Israelis anyway. The name itself is a fairly recent invention.

I don't understand the bolded.

You need a yardstick to identify a people. So if anybody technically can answer Palestine then there is no issue.

The words in italics are important because those who claim to be Palestinians today don't fall into this group.

Ibime:
2000 years ago doesn't matter. I'm sure Palestinians have been there longer than your tribe have been in your land in Nigeria

Israels big mistake was not giving West Bank back to Jordan after the 1967 war

By now they could have been dealing with just Gaza only and can afford to pay each adult Gazan $500k to resettle and each pneighbouring countries $500k for each Gazan they accept. Money stops bullshit

2000years doesn't change history does it?

Gazans are not Palestinians. This is the fact I want to point out.

obainojazz:
I wonder how person go find trouble and want pity almost immediately.

I read that the people that call themselves Palestines today are actually imposters. The real Palestines are the Jews.

Palestine was the name the Romans used to rename the Southern Kingdom of Israel called Judah with capital in Jerusalem. The Romans changed the name in order to break the cultural or religious connection of the Jews to the area.

The imposters calling themselves Palestinians today are nomads from surrounding regions like Jordan, Lebanon, etc who were never a state or nation. There was no state in Palestine since before or after the Ottoman empire.

Afrodoc2 please confirm.

raumdeuter:
Do you think Hamas will allow them to leave? Anyone who tries to leave is considered to be a saboteur and would likely be shot before they get to the border

Hamas knows the only reason Israel has not wiped them off is because of the civilian population, take away the civilians then I assure you by the end of this month there won't be 100 Hamas alive

I agree with you. And I think Israel is actually using it partly as a trap for Hamas to give them a bad reputation in the international media as a confirmed terrorist group. Also Israel really want to end Hamas. Egyptian border is also closed. So much for Arab unity.

raumdeuter:
We should be developing our local sports. This weekend instead of Arsenal vs Man utd let spy360 and obainojazz compete local wrestling in the grass

Next weekend will be Segedinho vs Sod09 in local wrestling. Called Eke or Emu

We will need to beg Sege and Ebukacute not to bring hit and fall ring into this bout

Football started in Africa what's wrong with you? Okonkwo was a striker for Umuofia. Ikemefuna was signed from Mbanta FC

monerozi5590:
Hamas said Gazans should not leave. I hope they won't listen to them but it is impossible to evacuate more than 1 million person in 24 hours.

I don't like the killings that are going on. Israel should please apply restraints and adhere to the Geneva Conventions in times of war. Civilians should be protected.

Even if you give them a 24k hours, the foolish ones will still drag their feet. It's even better for them to move in a large drove this will ensure they are easily identifiable through satellite.

I hate war but I also hate terrorists.

iamoyindamola:
All i see here are bunch of dull Africans lamenting about languages

A001jnr

izzou:
[color=royalblue]When you go to Abia, you'll see another different one.

Imo sef dey. There are Igbo songs that are sung in some dialects in Imo, and all i do is nod my head. I no hear shi shi.

But na Igbo race too.

Na person wey never go another person papa farm, dey think say him papa own na the biggest.[/color]

There are more similarities between Ikwerre and Owerri than Enugu and Owerri.

Hamas should beg Israel so that this senseless killings should stop. By tomorrow Israeli ground troops will enter Gaza and that means more casualties. All the supporters of Hamas should use the next 24hours to ask Hamas to beg Israel because this is just the beginning.

Amoto94:
You are a bloody liar

You are a bloody coward like your Hamas brothers.

RevDesm0ndJuju:
Your definition of winning is the side that is begging for backup.


You will be alive to witness Jews running away from Palestine.

No third temple to your joint god, Ekwensu aka Lucifer.


Nah by mouth?

Let them enter Gaza with their pampers issued IDF if dem born dem well.

Come let's go and defend Gaza.

Amoto94:
Just like starving over 3million hapless civilians to death right? It is good to say this when yours is not involved and I have even said same in the past but all is not fair in war and boundaries should be set

You were celebrating when Hamas invaded Israel and killed over 1200 innocent people including children and abducted several others. In fact they still have many people in their custody. You are no longer celebrating because the tides have turned against you. Isn't that hypocrisy?

When I say all is fair in war, I am only repeating what you said.