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European Football (EPL, UEFA, La Liga) › Re: EPL Chatroom - All Discussions by Spy360(m): 6:45am On Dec 14, 2025
DissTroy:
I could easily predict your response. What's the next thing you'll posit, that I'll inbox him for money? That isn't happening nor has it ever happened on any platform with anybody.

The most important thing is you have been unraveled as the Cain that you are. You bludgeon your brother because you think the sun shines brighter on him.

At least anyone within your vicinity on this thread knows to cover their drinks and food before you pøison them.

Envioûs, sadistiç thing.

You are the démon to sétup people you envy to gët kidnapped. We read stories like yours daily.
I envy your N15m luxury car. If that's what makes Tinubu's government good to you
European Football (EPL, UEFA, La Liga) › Re: EPL Chatroom - All Discussions by Spy360(m): 6:18am On Dec 14, 2025
DissTroy:
It obviously didn't workout and with resentment, he belts out "abroadians" daily even when the debate is about some random issue at Ikeja or Eleme.

Now we know where the envy comes from. He hates that he resides in Nigeria like millions of people. And, abroad, including in Xenophobiaville just to be "abroad".
Oga I am not hiding it. If you sabi road show me abeg. I want a route out.

I am not envious of anyone, but it you think I am then it's your opinion and you're entitled to it.

The decisions and policies of our leaders are making life difficult for people in the country. I don't have to be multidimensionally poor to know that people are going through hell. I see them every day. If I can't respect that then I should at least not gag those who are complaining.

This is where I end this conversation. Thanks
European Football (EPL, UEFA, La Liga) › Re: Arsenal Fans Thread: The Red & White Army: 2025/2026 EPL Champions! by Spy360(m): 10:28pm On Dec 13, 2025
Wolves brings in Tolu
European Football (EPL, UEFA, La Liga) › Re: Arsenal Fans Thread: The Red & White Army: 2025/2026 EPL Champions! by Spy360(m): 9:58pm On Dec 13, 2025
I'll like to see Merino or Jesus overload one wing. That would make their CBs useless and drag them out
European Football (EPL, UEFA, La Liga) › Re: Arsenal Fans Thread: The Red & White Army: 2025/2026 EPL Champions! by Spy360(m): 9:53pm On Dec 13, 2025
Roland17:
EXACTLY!!!! Man was through, it was a simple pass that sets Gyokores 1v1
Eze preferably
European Football (EPL, UEFA, La Liga) › Re: Arsenal Fans Thread: The Red & White Army: 2025/2026 EPL Champions! by Spy360(m): 9:53pm On Dec 13, 2025
Roland17:
That was a teasing cross from Saka.
Missed by Gyokeres

Let's not be ashamed to admit
European Football (EPL, UEFA, La Liga) › Re: Arsenal Fans Thread: The Red & White Army: 2025/2026 EPL Champions! by Spy360(m): 9:52pm On Dec 13, 2025
iamoyindamola:
I hate to say it but we need odegaard and trossard
What's there to hate? Are they not our players?
European Football (EPL, UEFA, La Liga) › Re: EPL Chatroom - All Discussions by Spy360(m): 8:27pm On Dec 13, 2025
raumdeuter:
But you can stay in Enugu and be supporting Israel a land you have no connection with nor ever stepped into.
If majority of Nigerians do not like the govt then vote them out in 2027.
You just re elected most of the governors who contested a 2nd term

Its Nigerians who stay in Nigeria that voted in the current govt. If the actions and policies of the govt are not good for you vote them out

Democracy is the govt of the majority. Try to make your candidate win the majority votes
If an Israeli or Palestinian comes here to talk about his experiences, I would be foolish to argue no matter how right I may think I am.

Someone complained about being taxed heavily and you're defending it when you're not here to pay the same tax. Isn't that foolish?
European Football (EPL, UEFA, La Liga) › Re: EPL Chatroom - All Discussions by Spy360(m): 8:24pm On Dec 13, 2025
OneDollarSalary:
True.
And there are proofs even on this very thread.
But according to them the rottenness of today's Nigeria is not tied to this present government but previous government right from either after amalgamation or independence.
Thank you. Their self deceit is disgraceful
European Football (EPL, UEFA, La Liga) › Re: EPL Chatroom - All Discussions by Spy360(m): 8:23pm On Dec 13, 2025
DissTroy:
You are dead-brained. You are envious else you won't keep yelling "abroadians" like DonJazet trying to invalidate the opinions of others because of their location.

We all know women who spite other women considered attractive by society are actually closet envious folks who want the looks of those women they spite.

If being outside of Nigeria wasn't your El Dorado, you won't point it out every time there's a completely unrelated issue being debated/argued.
Keep twerking for Raumdeuter. A loyal unjealous dog
European Football (EPL, UEFA, La Liga) › Re: EPL Chatroom - All Discussions by Spy360(m): 4:59pm On Dec 13, 2025
raumdeuter:
He is envious of abroad janitors



If you read the above you will agree with distroyy that na jealousy and bad belle

Make him sef go do janitor abroad he no gree
You cannot stay abroad and be supporting the decisions, actions or policies of the government that those at home are complaining about.

If they are so good, why don't you return and enjoy them?
European Football (EPL, UEFA, La Liga) › Re: EPL Chatroom - All Discussions by Spy360(m): 3:36pm On Dec 13, 2025
semid4lyfe:
🔸Living in Nigeria does not give anyone the monopoly of truth.

🔸Being outside Nigeria does not erase concern or connection.

🔸Living abroad does not disqualify anyone from commenting on the issues facing Nigerians and Nigeria.

🔸Distance no be ignorance. Sometimes it gives clarity and enables people to assess situations better. Person no gats dey inside fire to know say the house dey burn.

🔸Many people abroad still send money home, pay rent, pay school fees, support relatives and feel every policy failure/success through their loved ones.

🔸Even in Nigeria, there are people who support/oppose the current government.

🔸The NL abroadians that support this government do so due to reasons best known to them.

🔸Whether Nigeria-based or Abroadian, support or oppose who you want and stop throwing around labels.

Geographical location does not confer superiority of opinion. I rest my fingers.
You're right.

It's just that boy that said home based are jealous of abroadians that's why they oppose their opinions on government.
European Football (EPL, UEFA, La Liga) › Re: EPL Chatroom - All Discussions by Spy360(m): 3:31pm On Dec 13, 2025
GrammarNazi1:
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There are well to do people in this country!

Aren't there?

There are well to do people who built businesses here in Nigeria.

There are even employees who have lucrative side businesses in Nigeria.

Some of them had a headstart because they studied a very lucrative course in university.

Some of them, after studying what Ibime would not endorse, had to pivot to a lucrative field.

I know someone who studied Philosophy in the University of Benin, but before even gaining admission, he had known about computer programming/software development and had started learning it. This is someone who finished secondary school in 2007, and had even started learning software development before he left secondary school.

Sometimes I think about how he got to know about software development before 2007 when information was extremely scarce then.

Now, he would always say he needs to know algorithms if he would be able to work in very big organisations (This is growth and realism, not wishful thinking). This is someone who hates everything Nigeria more than you do, because he hates Tinubu, he hates Atiku, he hates Obi, all of them.

This person I'm talking about has been doing remote jobs since more than 3 years now, and he is doing extremely okay.

Change your mindset, Spy.

Lastly, a lot of people are doing extremely okay in Nigeria. Many of them had to do two times or even three times the effort you put in.
So you think we are failures simply because we try to point out the ills of bad governance in Nigeria?

So you have concluded that people who are working hard to be comfortable in Nigeria have to shut up when they aren't getting the dividends of the tax they pay like their counterparts abroad?

Why can't you just have some compassion and allow those who are in the fire voice out their pain rather than gaslighting them with your acclaimed success abroad.

If all of us escape the country as you all did, may be there wouldn't be anyone left for you to boast about and you would have all day to share any stinky opinions you have without any opposition.

It's interesting for you to think that calling out bad governance is a sign of not doing well in Nigeria. That's the mindset I don't want to have.
European Football (EPL, UEFA, La Liga) › Re: EPL Chatroom - All Discussions by Spy360(m): 2:17pm On Dec 13, 2025
GrammarNazi1:
Some of you think because European countries are far better than African countries, you can bash the Nairaland members who are overseas simply because the European countries they are living in are better than Nigeria is yet those Nairaland members support Nigerian politicians that you hate.

You are actually stupid.

Do you know why?

This is because even though European countries are better than African ones, those Nairaland members abroad went through fire abroad before living comfortable lives.

Many of them pivoted to lucrative careers, and they had to take courses. They had to SUFFER abroad in order to be comfortable.

Some pivoted to tech, and spent hours, day and night, to learn. They wanted to give up, but they didn't.

Some of them pivoted to health abroad, and they suffered real hard before becoming comfortable. They took double shifts and their health suffered for it; some of them have become hypertensive which they are managing now. Someone them even died through double shifts, but those who survived always count themselves lucky even in their comfortable lives. Some of them developed diabetes which they are managing now. You think they just got abroad today and tomorrow they have been able to buy Range Rover without health shattering sacrifices and a number of compromises?

You in Nigeria, what have you done to better your life? Everyday complaints on Nairaland.

You're really stupid.
Why didn't they stay back and 'suffer' and make that same comfortable life you're asking those in Nigeria to work for?

The very reason they left in the first place is because they didn't want to suffer in Nigeria.

You're smart. Aren't you?
European Football (EPL, UEFA, La Liga) › Re: EPL Chatroom - All Discussions by Spy360(m): 2:01pm On Dec 13, 2025
donjazzet:
If this talk of "envy" is not nipped in the bud immediately, it will become an agenda on its own.

Let it be stated firmly that NOBODY is jealous or envious of people going broad. We are rightfully calling out the stupidity and wickedness in having terrible opinions about our very own realities which you are away from and by default unable to feel. Only he who wears the shoes know where it pinches. You cannot be away from Nigeria and support the people who are causing them harm. That is terrible!
The very reason they even travelled abroad in the first place was to escape the rotteness of our bad leadership.

Now they are wondering why people are complaining. So stupid to imagine
European Football (EPL, UEFA, La Liga) › Re: EPL Chatroom - All Discussions by Spy360(m): 7:20pm On Dec 12, 2025
raumdeuter:
No one is shutting you down, When you get to 2027, then vote him out shikena. How does you consistent whining do anything. You have govt from LGA to state to Senators to HoR, effect changes to them and not be deceived with Gala, bread, malt garri or N2k
Don't advice me. Just stay away.

You won't be here when thugs of your principal will chase people away and steal their ballot boxes
European Football (EPL, UEFA, La Liga) › Re: EPL Chatroom - All Discussions by Spy360(m): 7:18pm On Dec 12, 2025



Someone is living daily in tears and sand

But we all have our own opinions. Or perhaps she is envious of abroadians

European Football (EPL, UEFA, La Liga) › Re: EPL Chatroom - All Discussions by Spy360(m): 7:02pm On Dec 12, 2025
DissTroy:
When most of you scream "abroadians" everyday and want to stiffle the comments of those who live outside of the country, you should realize it screams envy.

You lots are the type who bash Davido daily because he had and has life easier than most Nigerians so diminishes his credibility.

You lots are the ones who attack Cuppy daily because her reality is opulently different from most Nigerians.

You lots are the type uber rich folks are warned about who can't contain their envy.

Reccy and these guys lean toward the same politics. You do not bash Reccy just as much or Gbola because they reside in Nigeria but as soon as someone outside of the country holds the same contrary views, you lace your envy as criticism.

I've stated it a thousand times, wealth is relative but comfort is comfort. If you're in Okokomaiko and comfortable, be contented with it.

I am contented (while still working towards achieving more) so someone who lives in the Burj Khalifa having a contrary opinion to mine shouldn't stoke my envy and cause me to attack his more (or seemingly) advantageous station in life.

There's a reason the super rich avoid most people because most people can't rein in their envy. Envy is a dangerous thing.

So many people return for Christmas overseas and don't make it back to their stations because they have been poisoned.

This constant "all these abroadians" everytime someone makes a comment instead of attacking the issue you don't agree with is laced envy. You know it!

So many of you will not see your "abroadian" uncles and aunties who will prefer to lodge in resorts in Lagos for the Naija experience and you will only find out they were in Nigeria for Christmas by January when they post pictures because they avoided you and had picked up on the hints of envy and resentment from the comments you made chatting with them or on social media.

Only a single bitter woman constantly refers to another woman's marriage. And we all know why.

You don't have to agree with it but you know it is true. 🙂
Perhaps you have managed to sneak abroad and suddenly experiencing utopic mindset.

No one say any one anywhere shouldn't have an opinion. But you cannot have an opinion when someone have experience.

You cannot be an Omokri and having an opinion about genocide contrary to the experiences of the people of Benue whose loved ones are being killed before their very eyes.

You should be listening to them not having an opinion. Fk your opinion.
European Football (EPL, UEFA, La Liga) › Re: EPL Chatroom - All Discussions by Spy360(m): 6:54pm On Dec 12, 2025
raumdeuter:
There are people in Nigeria enjoying well. Some even have the resources to finish a 15k soup in one sitting in the same Nigeria

The people in Nigeria not diaspora voted the current govt and you will have to wait till 2027 to see if your sentiments is shared by all Nigerians
Even at that they are in no position to shut down those who say they are having a hard time.
European Football (EPL, UEFA, La Liga) › Re: EPL Chatroom - All Discussions by Spy360(m): 6:22pm On Dec 12, 2025
Bimmarlykay:
It's an APC thing... and it stems from either a tribal perspective or from benefiting directly from the ruling party.

Anything short of that is simply delusion or cruise

You just gats pick one and treat respectively. kiss
The bolded is the major factor especially for abroadians
European Football (EPL, UEFA, La Liga) › Re: Arsenal Fans Thread: The Red & White Army: 2025/2026 EPL Champions! by Spy360(m): 6:21pm On Dec 12, 2025
daveP:
You're buttressing my point for me. Even as 2nd choice target, this same Sesko is terrible at the "Arteta style for cf" than Gyokores. His shot sef is weak and hold up is worse. Meaning if we got him, the noise would have been "why didn't we get Gyokores"


At the end of the day, everything is looking like the blame lies at the feet of Arteta. Berta has done justice getting the best 9 of last season into this formidable team. If it is not working, then style of play is an issue. Cr7 once had this problem at man u till coach ordered they feed him balls. The coach needs to work on that.


IMO, if this guy clicks, it will reduce the overall stress across the teammates. Till then. Gyokores is hibernation mode. He's a beast normal. We already have 3 Arteta style cf so getting him shows a priority for a different style not as additional to the style on ground. What he's doing currently is cool. But those that know what he was last season will agree this guy is on 30% mode of his previous self.

Maybe it is deliberate. Maybe Arteta wants to make him unleashed towards April May.


Till then sha
First of all the bolded can not be determined from mere speculative imagination. So let's leave that one. That was how you people dealt with Havertz . Thank God we signed Gyokeres not Sesko, because the narrative would have been 'assuming we signed Gyokeres'. So let that one rest.

Secondly, whatever tactics you're going to blame Arteta for has made him top of the league and CL tables at the same time. We are also in the 1/4 finals of the Carabao cup.

I am sure you're not willing to sacrifice that for the meer satisfaction of seeing Gyokeres scoring odds goals?

So forget whatever fantasies you have about Gyokeres and see the progress the team is making
European Football (EPL, UEFA, La Liga) › Re: EPL Chatroom - All Discussions by Spy360(m): 1:42pm On Dec 12, 2025
raumdeuter:
You are already crying today again

Is there any day you take a break from wailing?
You're not here. If you were you would be wailing too.

Just like those denying the genocide, I don't see how those who aren't part of an experience, daily experience, think they have a say.

You can stay in your snow crested homes and talk bulls about us
European Football (EPL, UEFA, La Liga) › Re: EPL Chatroom - All Discussions by Spy360(m): 8:02am On Dec 12, 2025
TemporaryHansel:
Do the politicians of those countries squander public funds on personal indulgences and sponsoring numerous sidechicks on vacations to different continents?
Do they insult their citizens when the citizens try to hold them accountable?
Is there no stable electricity in those countries?
You know when people are blinded by their own sentiments they begin to yarn nonsense despite their exposure.

Someone is somewhere where government is run effectively. He enjoys steady power, good roads, security, working environment, social amenities, etc and he is defending the rubbish this government is doing and arguing with those who are here.

Imagine talking about 'dividends of democracy' in Nigeria. 😂
European Football (EPL, UEFA, La Liga) › Re: Arsenal Fans Thread: The Red & White Army: 2025/2026 EPL Champions! by Spy360(m): 4:03am On Dec 12, 2025
daveP:
Isak from Newcastle to Liverpool, same and exact pattern of play and he's struggling. Not to talk of last season's most lethal 9 coming in and we want to suddenly act like we dunno how he plays? Instead of agreeing with you, I'll simply say,

If we know we weren't going to use him on his lethal, impactful level of play, then why buy him?


They for just buy Victor Osimhen since hold up play and opening spaces is the excuse. He does those absolutely well, has 10 lungs with that pressing that Arteta loves and makes CBs restless all game.

This guy can enter the XI of the other top 6 clubs and be on 17goals by now. He's still on 3 with us. I don't even want to talk about the hesitation by teammates to pass to him. Everyone admits and it is already common knowledge that he opens up space for others to thrive. But how is that peak productivity? Or is there a plan to unleash him later or what?


Yes we can't just abruptly stop team style, especially as he didn't join in pre season. But can't there be games where we see that they're targeting this pointman to net? It has festered on too lon and im tilting towards the conclusion that Arteta loves it this way. GJ and Kai will come back and do their thing no doubt. Merino the beloved is also there.
Please don't see this as a personal attack. We are just discussing football.

Do you recall that Gyokeres wasn't first choice forward signing? In fact Sesko was ahead of him in the choice list.

The main reason we finally settled on Gyokeres was his persistent show of interest. This is even what made many Arsenal fans commit to him emotionally. The reason most fans (especially those who can be very critical, like those who criticised the hell out of Havertz) do not want to criticise his records this season is because they committed themselves to him as the one to prove them right about how wrong Arteta was not to have a traditional striker as his CF

For me based on our standards for CF, he is doing well. Creating spaces and dragging away defenders for others to find the goal.

Besides Arteta built his attack so that there would be several goal outlets not one
European Football (EPL, UEFA, La Liga) › Re: Arsenal Fans Thread: The Red & White Army: 2025/2026 EPL Champions! by Spy360(m): 3:56am On Dec 12, 2025
Shegzdave:
Arsenal is officially JESUS fc grin grin
All the boys start by giving thanks to God in their post match interview
Na Evangelist Timber o 😂

Don't be surprised if Arteta says he is looking for a born again striker next summer 😂
European Football (EPL, UEFA, La Liga) › Re: Arsenal Fans Thread: The Red & White Army: 2025/2026 EPL Champions! by Spy360(m): 3:54am On Dec 12, 2025
BlueRayDick:
For all his upside-down arguments and sometimes provocative position in arguments, we need to give Spy360 his flowers for being right on Arsenal's strikers problem...

I remember correctly how Spy360 kept on hammering on the fact that the type of striker that fits Arteta game play is dem Jesus, Havertz and Nketiah type of striker. He stressed that an out and out striker like Gyokeres may struggle in a team lien arsenal because of how Arteta sets up his team to play.

Gyokeres struggles since he joined and Gabriel Jesus cameo yesterday seem to have validate Spy's arguments.

I didn't watch the match yesterday (for the first time in a long time), but all the match commentary, summary and fans opinions I've read seem to suggest Gabriel Jesus bested Gyokeres and most fans have seen that Gyokeres goal problem is neither caused by Saka and Odegaard deliberately not passing to him nor is it caused by other players trying to outshine him.

I just hope Arteta will find a way to use Gyokeres in matches where we will need a profile of his profile & skillset to press opposition defence and mount pressure on them to overturn possession. I believe those teams that like to knock the ball around at the back will suffer if we start Gyokeres against them.
Point blank
European Football (EPL, UEFA, La Liga) › Re: Arsenal Fans Thread: The Red & White Army: 2025/2026 EPL Champions! by Spy360(m): 3:52am On Dec 12, 2025
Roland17:
The argument has always been about a different mold of striker that offers us a different approach and that is what Gyokores is.

Asking Gyokores to play as a false 9 or inverted striker isn’t his strength. There there numerous instances before Gyokores when we were looking for goals, had possession but all our strikers were hugging the edge of the box with nobody inside the box for crosses or keeping CBs honest. Teams player low blocks and got results against us because of a lack of CF.

Now he is here, we are still expecting him to play the same way that necessitated his purchase in the first place.
The bolded is actually correct.

We must understand that Gyokeres was brought as a route to adapt to a different pattern of play when the need arises. Unfortunately injuries to the front line derailed that and so his is forced to adapt to the team's usual tactics.

And he is doing it very well.

So we must not judge him by his standards but by the club's standards.
European Football (EPL, UEFA, La Liga) › Re: Arsenal Fans Thread: The Red & White Army: 2025/2026 EPL Champions! by Spy360(m): 1:42pm On Dec 11, 2025
iamoyindamola:
Roland17
Jesus had more touches in the little minutes played than gyokeres, I think he needs to start making himself available the competition are coming back with kai close
It's because of the way Arteta uses his CF. They are not traditional strikers and Gyokeres is forced to adapt. In doing so he will drop down the pecking order which will see Havertz as No1 and then Jesus and even Merino before him.
European Football (EPL, UEFA, La Liga) › Re: Arsenal Fans Thread: The Red & White Army: 2025/2026 EPL Champions! by Spy360(m): 1:39pm On Dec 11, 2025
Spy360:
Gyokeres is not coming to play as an outright CF. He is coming to play a a false 9 or deployed on the LW as a goalscoring/inverted winger same way Arteta used Aubameyang.

The only reason it will not happen will be a change of tactical approach which will mean getting a new CAM and creative LW similar to Doku.
When I made this prediction in May, I was opposed by Davep and Roland17

But my thoughts came through. As it stands now, Gyokeres has been playing false 9 and he is not even well suited to it compared to G Jesus who looked better when he came on.
European Football (EPL, UEFA, La Liga) › Re: EPL Chatroom - All Discussions by Spy360(m): 5:21pm On Dec 10, 2025
https://www.vanguardngr.com/2025/12/battalion-size-escort-for-seyi-tinubu-misallocation-of-state-resources-soyinka/

Raumdeuter I have not seen your take on this matter. It would be interesting.
European Football (EPL, UEFA, La Liga) › Re: EPL Chatroom - All Discussions by Spy360(m): 5:14pm On Dec 10, 2025
Theflint1:
There's nothing to be gained for the opposition from this Fubara's move...Wike doesn't lose much, at least anymore than he lost the moment Fubara chose to move mad.

Tinubu won bigly through this crisis
Yes. It's a win for Tinubu but not for Wike.

Tinubu has stripped Wike of his powers in Rivers. Everyone will move their loyalty to him not Wike. Wike will at best be a vassal
European Football (EPL, UEFA, La Liga) › Re: EPL Chatroom - All Discussions by Spy360(m): 5:09pm On Dec 10, 2025
Blueraydick I go come visit you with Sharia visa

😂

This thing go make sense because of Raumdeuter and Airmark

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