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impressiveguy:
Like seriously ? Arsenal fans are just too frustrating... I've been seeing a lot of wenger_in nowadays, where are the Wenger_out?

Seekingattention is not a fan na. Can't you see how he spelt our name?

His is a newborn troll. His blood is still fresh...

Hati13:
From what I saw on TV, most scholars agreed that, there was a man around the first A.D, who claimed to be son of God. They also agreed that, he was crucified by the Romans. I think that man could be real, but all that was said about him was a lie to me. I don't believe there is such things as God/gods. If those God/gods are real, then they are definitely other world beings. I truly believe that their are Aliens out there. May be they had visited us in the past. May be what most people worship as God/gods could be them. I'm not saying they are definitely Aliens. I'm saying "MAY BE"!

If you want/can, read my topic named "There is no such things as God/gods/Lack/Miracles", just to know my perspectives.

Jesus being crucified on the orders of Pontius Pilate is a historical fact which can be verified. The mere fact that he was crucified gives credence to the christian faith, being the basis of the christian salvation.

No one, not even His disciples would be so convinced unless that they have judged Him credible. It takes an incredible amount of faith to accept a man's claim to be Son of God.

I am equally shocked that you believe in aliens but don't believe in God. Whereas those two have similar structures of logic and reasoning.

I don't know if there are aliens out there because there are yet no evidences to prove. It would be interesting if aliens do exist.

Hati13:
I'm not saying, if you heard or saw God, come to us and tell us that you have heard or saw God. I'm saying, bring concrete evidences(photo and video for example) to prove us wrong.

You leave legacy not for yourself, but for your families and future generations. We were nothing before we were born and will be nothing after we die. There is no scary, pointless about it.

How can suffering be worth than nothingness. Why do people complete suicide? It is to get out of their suffering. When we die, our consciousness will become nothing, but our atoms will be recycled to be used again. We will not feel happy or sad or there is no difference between 1 second or trillions years, because we are nothing anymore. But our deeds, legacy and memories will live with our families and other people, until those who know us themselves die.

Love, happiness and so on.... are special to you, because they have their limits.

You could as well ask me to bring concrete evidences that Oparaokoroafor is my ancestor.

People commit suicide to escape sufferings, people also get matyred for their convictions. Boko Harams commit suicide because they believe in an after-life. So suicide cannot be used as a pointer.

Let us go back to the historicity of Jesus. Do you accept that he actually existed?

ogbeh44:
Please help! My receiver 4922 has been misbehaving lately. It will change to black and white after 5-10 minutes of switching it on. Is there any software to correct this?

Do factory reset first.

Hati13:
How can we bring concrete evidences when there is no God to begin with. If you really believe in God, tell me or show me concrete evidences to support your claim.

Something is only better than nothing, if that something is only good. Is suffering better than oblivion? Answer me!

Living eternal has no purpose. Something is special to you, because you know it won't last forever. If you live eternally, all things will be became pointless to you, because you have eternal time to do what ever you want. Nothing will last forever, even matter!

How can't you lose something when you have lived all your life praying, going to church and bowing to a fake God. If you would have spent those times on some productive things, you could leave legacies for future generations(I'm not referring you, peace ).

How can you be happy and advice others to believe in God, when you haven't saw, heard God?

Peace.

Let me begin with the last one.

There are many things we don't see yet we believe they exist since we experience them in other ways. Have you seen happiness or heard electricity? If I tell you I have seen God in vague forms and have heard Him explicitly you may not believe. It's a personal experience anyway.

Already there is meaning to life, there is meaning to the joy, pain, suffering etc we expeience. You talked about legacy, that is meaningful. But believing in oblivion turns everything to nothing. If the end is oblivion, then why leave a legacy?

All is meaningless without God, including 'legacy'.

Believing in oblivion is worse than suffering. People smile even in the face of suffering. But smiling to oblivion is madness indeed. A meaninglessness.

Hati13

I took a stand point- citing references to stake my claim. If you feel I am wrong, then bring evidences to prove such.

Also, it is better to believe in something than to believe in nothing.

Again believing in the after-life gives purpose to one's existence. Believing in 'oblivion' makes your life purposeless.

Finally, assuming you are right that there is no life after here, you and I lose nothing (or we both lose everything). But if indeed there is life after here, then your own soul is damned. Forever damned.

I therefore implore you to give God a chance to make you. I did so, and I promise you I can never exchange that experience of knowing God with anything in the world.
Finally

In this Leicester win, we played four different formations...

3-4-1-2
3-3-1-3
4-2-3-1
4-4-2.

I like the new spirit in the team.

elrony:
Just interceptions?... No no

Tackles
Passes
Blocks
Error leading to goals
Chances created
Assists
Goals

Are also good criteria.

My man has done well with this tho (even tho he ain't a natural DM , I'm proud of Herrera any day any time).

He needs to be consistent throughout the season.

Mourinho himself didn't help matters because he never trusted him earlier in the season.

Logic and Reasoning

Which of these statements is true?

A. In the 66th minute of the game, Man City's top striker Sergio Aguero, dribbled past Arsenal's 20year old defender Rob Holding leaving him sprawling on the green.

B. In the 66th minute of the game, Arsenal's 20year old defender, Rob Holding dribbled past Man City's top striker Sergio Aguero leaving him sprawling on the green.

HotNigga:
Herrera has the better passing range more assists and goals combined so your line of logic just faltered, Most of manure's matches have dominated just unable to find the decisive strike compared to Chelsea that just scrape wins, So Once again Herrera is better than Kante just like how Hazard isn't fit to lick Messis boots.

How? Lol.

You just argued based on my line of judgement, yet you claim it faltered?

Unless you did not understand yourself.

Herrera is good, may even be better. But no one voted him. They voted Kante. Deal with it.

elrony:
And how many DM's have more goals and assist to Ander?

I dunno.

I just stated that interceptions cannot be used to judge who is the better DM.

Do you agree?

Auki:
Your creator, the knower of the visible and invisible, said Jesus crucification didn't happen.

Quran: Mankind salvation lies in worshipping our creator, obeying the prophets, doing right things and avoidance of evils.

God only requires we seek forgiveness for our sin not blood of Jesus.

That has been the pattern before Jesus and during Jesus life time and after his ascension. Roman pagans invented all these if you but know.

Your claim is based on the quran, I could equally quote the bible. But here I referred to non christian sources which proved historically the crucifixion of Jesus, thereby confirming the authenticity of the Biblical claim.

To receive forgiveness according to ancient practices, there has to be atonement. That was why goats and lambs were offered for atonement for sins.
But goats and lambs are not God's requirement for atonement. They were more like indicators of the graveness of sin.
Jesus chose to take the place of sacrificial 'lamb' in order to fulfil God's requirement. His sacrifice is an everlasting one because He remains alive to make intercession for those who accept His sacrifice.
Without this sacrifice, mankind is doomed.

If Roman pagans invented it, then why would the disciples of Jesus- Peter, James, John and others propagate it? These people were matyred by the Romans for the convictions they stood for. They couldn't have been persecuted for propagating a lie invented by their persecutors.

Auki:
Qur'an confirmed that those that intended harm to Jesus were the losers. God lifted Jesus onto Himself without being humiliated. Jesus enemy was crucified.

Ok.

But history says he was crucified. The Bible also confirms it.

His crucifixion is the most important aspect of the christian faith, because that is God's requirement for the atonement of mankind's sins.

According to the Bible, Christ fulfilled God's will and demand, and then was glorified- ascended to God's throne, after he resurrected.

Without the crucifixion, there is no salvation for mankind, we are all doomed to eternal punishment because we have all sinned.

Auki:
Qur'an confirmed that:

1. Jesus is human being created without father just like Adam without father and mother.

2. Jesus is a Prophet sent by God like Abraham, Moses, Muhammad etc.

3. Jesus while alive never called mankind to worship him instead of God nor did he claim being a son to God or part of the triune God.

4. Jesus preached to mankind to worship their creator without partner.

Ok, but did the Quran affirm that he was crucified?

bigkesh:
Considering the number of games he has played in EPL


Wouldn't be bad to call him the most creative player in EPL history


Some donkeys from the pit of hell will now come and put Pogba beside Asisstgas

Ozil dey look you with one eye o...

Any match on Max Tv?

Any match on Max Tv?

Non Christian sources which are used to study and establish the historicity of Jesus include Jewish sources such as Josephus and Roman sources such as Tacitus. That He was crucified is as sure as anything historical can ever be since both Josephus and Tacitus agree with the Christian accounts,..

The crucifixion of Jesus happens to be the basis of the Christian faith which is believed to be the condition for mankind's salvation and atonement. Salvation and atonement are purely Christian ideals which are not shared by any other religion.

So the basic fact that Jesus was crucified is historical evidence that points at Christ as the Way to God. Those who would not believe the biblical accounts therefore can hold on to these historical facts about the genuity of Jesus' sacrificial atonement for their sins and those of all mankind and believe.

John Meier views the crucifixion of Jesus as historical fact and states that based on the criterion of embarassment Christians would not have invented the painful death of their leader. The criterion of embarassment is also used to argue in favor of the historicity of the baptism of Jesus by John the Baptist. It is a story which the early Christian Church would have never wanted to invent. Other references to Jesus and His execution exist in the Talmud, but they aim to discredit His actions, not deny His existence.

Evidence from non-christian sources even affirm that Jesus did exist and was crucified.

There is wide spread disagreement among scholars of the details of the life of Jesus mentioned in the gospel naratives, and on the meaning of His teachings, and the only two events subject to 'almost universal assent' are that Jesus was baptised by John the Baptist and was crucified by the order of the Roman prefect Pontius Pilate. According to New Testament scholar James Dunn, nearly all modern scholars consider the baptism of Jesus and His crucifixion to be historically certain.

Ref: wikipedia


The first fact to establish here is that Jesus did actually exist, and that stories of Him were not entire fiction.

Based on this fact, one can therefore argue that the biblical narratives of Him (or any material at all) can be used to some level of reliabilty.

This is an apologetic view on the validity of Jesus's claim to be the saviour and redeemer of mankind.

The goal here is that those who doubted may find reason to believe.

The argument is that believers have already presented the scriptures as basic historical evidence for the existence of Jesus. So that those who do not believe therefore have the obligation to provide their own evidences.

Lana1:
Ah! Is it the same Cèch that is supposed to save u at least 15 points every season??

His left hand is worth 20points silly boy.

sod09:
I'm not comfortable with szch at all he refuse to learn

He has been consistent for Roma and they are 2nd in Seria A.

sod09:
stop spoiling the fun.....continue scummies let's see aw Pogba fit into ur shitty line up

sod09:
hmmmm....but situation of goal line technology to approve a goal 80% of d ball must cross d line ,don't mind dem if not for old cech way day do like rookie keeper

Have you notice that Cech has a weak right hand?

Any shut to the top right na goal.

We need Szceszny back next season abeg.

elrony:
Make una calm down. ...

Honestly.

Griezmann never even buy the biro to use sign the MOU yet some niggas don dey put am for formation. SMH.

Arsenal go do Chelsea something.

HotNigga:
Ander Herrera has made more interceptions than any premier league midfielder this season but some useless foolish Chelsea fans are prepared to suck his diikk to the very end, Scoundrels.

You make more interceptions when you are on the weaker/losing team. Interceptions are never a yard stick to judging which player is better. Passes, assists and goals do.

sod09:
Guys ,I'm not understanding
Maybe my knowledge of football is low,man city players Nd some pundits are saying city goal should Av stood.
But wen sane crossed d ball its went over Nd roll over to play b4 Aguero scored.
I think d ref decision was right cos d ball crossed over d top pole. Anyone with different opinion

The rule is that 'all of the ball must cross all of the line'. So the goal should have stood.

But then, why are they whining? They lost.

we also had some decisions go against us, like Ozil and Sanchez should have been given penalties but the ref overlooked.

Citeh should just shut up and take their 'L' with humility. They should be more bothered about beating United on Thursday unless they would still miss out on top 4.

Meanwhile, Raumdeuter how can you defend Pep going trophyless this season?
This is EPL for you.

kokaneprodigy:
can u just end this talk abt hold up play, it's getting boring, annoying and very irritating, when used to defend this dude. Na hold up play we go chop?
For all his hold up play what have we achieved? (Pls Don't answer that)

We were on fire earlier in the season while he was injured and out, dude came into the picture midway with "hold up play" and we struggling with Everton for 6th.

If you know nothing about hold up play why comment?

Wonder why France use him together with Griezmann? Guess you don't.

ColtPython:
I swear. His decision-making was ridiculous.

When Aguero pushed the ball forward, I was relaxed (thinking Cech has caught this one). Only to see baba backtracking towards his goal.

Really shameful for an experienced GK like Petr.

When you are one on one with a striker like Aguero, how can you tell except on hind sight?

It wasn't a mistake, he simply did not expect that Aguero would push the ball forward.