abnice2004:
Hi everyone. My sister has decided to get accommodation as proof of accommodation to the embassy. The school referred her to a landlord and She was sent a lease agreement and she has signed it, the landlord in capetown also signed it but she has not paid. Can she use it as proof of accommodation though the landlord said she can? Your contribution will be highly appreciated.

Yes

Chai.... people still dey go SA?

aragonbaba:

whats the duration of your visa?

Am a Permanent Resident Permit holder with an SA ID

Currently in Johannesburg, here for only one week, leaving tonight. I salute those that still stay here. God bless your hustle

Shine1177:
It has been a long time I posted here. I want to thank God for my life, I came into RSA in March 2015 for my Master degree and i graduated last month with my MEng Electrical Eng. In the course of it I got a Critical Skill Work Permit in Lagos last year December. I came back to RSA this January, after securing a little job, I applied for my Permanent Residence Permit in RSA on 03/05/2017 and it was issued to me on 04/06/2017, I mean I got it in 30 days instead of the usual 8-10 months. Nah God o! Now, I am a Permanent Resident of RSA, I can bring my wife and children anytime I like now and probably relocate to ......

Life in RSA is not easy if you don't plan well because you may end up using all your money to pay rent, which is heavy, but if you are focus, plan well and God help you, then you will make head-way.

I am currently registering for my PhD.


God bless us all.

Congrats on your PR but not to belittle your achievements I think S.A is actually dashing professionals PR now. The country needs educated people like you because the country has issues

Herbeekeh:
Hi everyone. Can you please help me out with this...

I was issued a tourist SA visa 2014 but did not travel till expiration. I want to apply for another tourist visa with my husband. How do I go about it? And can I still use the yellow card. Thanks

there is no reason why you can not apply for one now.just apply normally with genuine documents

adeniyy01:
House! I don't know what else to do, I went to collection centre on Friday to confirm why the delay on my visiting visa but no tangible reason than to wait till high commission decide, today makes it 7 weeks, please what can I do to haste this? Am getting tired since 13th of March til dat May 1st. Is anyone experiencing same thing with me?

I wonder what kind of visit you still want to embark on after 7 weeks delay?

So the mods have unblocked me, yeye dey smell! Ajeku iya ni o je!

Tzardom:


If I was mad, I would've engaged your friend - who seems to be on a mission to discourage his countrymen from traveling to SA. Maybe he doesn't want them to benefit from an economy which was built from nothing by a lazy work force like he did or be victims of xenophobia. Don't know. Don't care to know either.

There maybe threads about other countries in this travel section, but I doubt if any of them have posters who deviate from the purpose of the said threads like you do on this one.

Of course, you lot aren't only concerned about your country - Why would you be when most of you are always looking for any opportunity to leave it.

I didn't go out of my way to look for a Nigerian forum to register on. I stumbled on it while I was busy on the net searching about my country. The results actually took me by surprise, cause there were threads about SA from as far back as 2008. Like why would people dedicate so much of their time talking negatively about a nation so far away from them. Everyday, for almost a decade.

I believe some of your people have researched SA to the point that they could even write a whole book about us.

If other Africans were as obsessed with everything South Africa like many here; I would've come across their "nairalands" the same way I did this one.

I'm out!

I really don't blame guys like this, i blame Nigerians who stick their as* out to defend countries that their citizens dont even want them.

Keneking:


You sound racist! You don't belong here my friend. Which Blacks are you accusing of creating problems? I am sure you belong to the apartheid era.

Racist Hahahaha

14:


The problem is, your judgement cant be trusted because it skews to your side, what you believe in and you dont want to be corrected. I dont know what happened to you while you were still staying in SA, something terrible could have happened to you, something you cant share here on this forum. Whatever you say about South africa, there is nothing positive and this is the country you spent more than 5yrs in. I guess within that 5yrs you were a merserable person, you could not wait to leave SA as you eventually did. Yes, South africa has problems just like any other country, and south africans will solve their problems themselves rather than cross the border to another country as a refugees or seeking asylum status when there is no war, or try to cross the mediterranian sea.

All your fake predictions just clearly indicate that you never learned anything about SA of that 5yrs while you were in the country. South africans are not cowards and not scared to die for their country. The only thing you guys know, is to jump the border and go to look for greener pasture rather than stand up and fix your country.

It appears you are a South African, well i say worse things about my own country especially when Jonathan ruled Nigeria, now i sense hope in Nigeria.

The number one problem of the country, South Africa is Jacob Zuma once that guy is removed there is hope for S.A. all the issues of S.A. can be traced to bad govt led by Mr JZ. Xenophobia can be traced to unemployment, shrinking economy is also because of govt, last year South Africa was ranked number 1 most corrupt country in Africa thanks to JZ.

Am sorry if i dont have anything good to say about S.A. but the SA that i saw when i came into it is not what it is anymore. S.A.'s issues came too rapidly, more blacks are being empowered which brings more problems, look at the strike in the mining sector of 2014 that lasted 5 months, till today S.A. hasn't recovered from the loss. Same goes to fees must fall protests, forcing schools to cut cost which will ultimately affect educational quality. All these issues were not what you hear of 4 years ago and suddenly gbam they all came. Thanks to Jacob Zuma

Keneking:


Amazing point. You can not use your experience in one or two provinces to infer that South Africans hate foreigners.

Blacks in western cape are more chilled considering the people they live with but you step out of that zone its a different ball game.
You think Gauteng is bad, go to kzn where the king instructed the natives to chase foreigners, there are 8 major metros in S.A. out of the 8 i can only safely say only 2 welcome foreigners, city of cape town and nelson mandela bay. In nelson mandela bay its only port Elizabeth that is accommodating. Try entering a taxi in jozi (a taxi is where average South Africans meet) and see the hostility you get for not speaking a native language, same goes for taxis in Mphumalanga, polokwane in limpopo, Durban in KZN. Even in western cape, take a taxi to places like Nyanga or Gugulethu and you dont speak xhosa, you will hate yourself.

14:


Stop misleading people with your lies. Check the link below, yerrrrr
http://www.bbc.com/news/world-africa-34138610

I wont even argue with you with statistics of 2015, at least the ricjest man in Africa is a Nigerian, apart from that owner of sundowns, motsepe or so the richest south africans are bloody white people who illegitimately took the land from black people, soon the land will be taken back.

Thecassanova:

The mixed feelings would change once u get settled down here.

No problem but I'm in UWC @Capetown, quite far from Jborg tho.

No wonder you live in cape town , you wont really geel the harsh reality of South Africa because cape town is chilled with a high population of whites and coloured people. Try live in Gauteng. I have lived in CT well as well as Midrand there is a difference. Dont mislead people. I am only being blunt

Thecassanova:

I misread the question, sorry

I don't get, what is voluntary work permit? I think it's better applying for visit visa. Applying for work permit for just a few weeks program sounds one off to me.
Or why did u apply for voluntary work permit when you only going for couple of weeks?? You have a greater chance on visit visa.

Voluntary work permit/visa is a visa issued to people that are going to S.A. for non profitable jobs like churches, members of red cross, etc. It is normally issued to people staying beyond a month. You are not allowed to take up regular employment, or study with such a visa

welf99:


while I welcome your opinion in this forum and appreciate your line of thought, ..this your summary is the lowest of the low. it shows you have failed to understand labour struggle post apartheid era and various legislations and enforcement in this regard..come to think of it most countries including Nigeria has such laws in place that protect the interest of its citizen first in employment
matters, so it is not new in SA. why I am I saying this? most agitations against foreigners has always been Job opportunity, Drug and Crime!. You can't generalise and say they hate foreigners! because they believe the system is compromised and are not enforcing the law...they take laws into their hands...am not in support of this and I totally condemned it. May be you forgot that uptill this moment foreigners are still taking professional jobs in SA corporations. can you say they hate foreigners? even our own Prof Wole Shoyinka now lectures at Univ of Joburg.

Whether you believe or not the average South African hates you as a foreigner it is the harsh truth. If you like hate my statement, they dont want us in their country. I am very well educated and lived all my life in S.A. in good suburbs i have had a very fair share of the hatred, from school, to office, to banks, to taxis (will never take a taxi in jozi again). This is a personal experience. Even to children that know nothing they are not liked

tweb1:

So what are you going to do? Wait and hope the economy of SA crashes so that the forigners have no choice but to leave or you lead an "S/A must fall" campaign. Maybe you will be considered a revolutionist.

This is the reasoning of an average South African, they dont want you. They hate foreigners

Keneking:


Their universities still rank high in Africa even among BRICS. Grades 1 - 12 schools are reshaping to get better as there is healthy competition among provinces to produce great grades at Matric. Schools are investing massively to get talent to locals up to acceptable levels. Government can not fund education forever. The 9investment made so far must be balanced and has to pay off in the short term. Have you considered how much Rands is made available from DHET budgets annually? This amount is pumped directly to scholarships for low and "missing" middle and deserving student's funding. Yes, I agree this amount is shrinking because the budgets must be evaluated for (in)efficiencies.

"For the past 3 financial years S.A. economy has contrasted instead of growing, S.A. is sitting on a kettle of gun powder that can explode anytime." Who says? Have you checked out their export data to UK and some parts of EU? Do you know their fiscals? Do you know how much Tax authorities raked in 2016FY? Do you anticipate growth of 6%-7% on paper like Nigeria? Was there any mention of economic recovery in the Jacob Zuma's State of Nation address and Budget speech from Pravin Gordhan?

Calls for land reclamation is political. Ask EFF, IDM, APC, others political parties, those are their priorities if elected in Government. Xenophobic attacks happen everywhere and SA's case is simply so because it is political!

Bros have taught in grade classes and i can tell you its full of sh*t. The UK economy isnt growing but it is very very stable it is not contracting. U.K. economy does not have to grow, it is a developed economy unlike S.A. where it is a developing economy.
I wonder why you should even compare a junk status economy to European economy, guy dont try it.
I have not said naija has a better economy but you guys just chill a few years. Sadly S.A. is moving slowly towards doom, while Nigeria is moving slowly towards boom. Please bookmark this page and God willing we shall all be alive by 2020 to refresh. I will put a clause though if Zuma can be removed before or by June S.A. has hope if not you all guys will see the gall of S.A. (its not a curse) also if the present govt in Nigeria is ousted prematurely then i cant guaranty Nigeria's boom again.

Calls of reclaiming land is gone beyond politics now, with a bad economy more people will shout it. I really dont see why south African blacks shouldnt take back their land, if it were us that some white assholes chased us from our land will we not agitate to take back our land? I actually support the call to take back the land. Is just that these South African blacks are bloody lazy, but its going to happen soon.

For how long will universities in S.A. keep their ranking. Already uct resumed only in March for 2017 session (it has never happened before). European lecturers are diminishing by the day, but lets watch.

Chukwuka16:
It is a marvel following the intelligent and brilliant ideas and counter ideas being posited by @keneking and @staggerlee as regards the reaction of SA's economy to recent cabinet reshuffle and subsequent downgrading to junk status. As rightly argued the informal sector in Nigeria has been a blessing in disguise in shielding Nigerians to the harsh reality of the market forces which are capitalist driven. From my little stay in SA I have just shockingly discovered a striking similarity between the UK and SA. Both countries have their economy based on the credit and welfare system which traditionally encourages laziness among its citizens. Although SA has the added problem of just coming out of apartheid, their revolt against fellow blacks from other African countries in form of xenophobia and their growing hatred for the whites could be likened to the recent Brexit movement in UK. With the abundance of funding for education of its citizens especially the natives in SA and little interest on their part so it is in the UK with a host of funded phd's for UK citizens with little interest on their parts. I might even argue that more Europeans enjoy UK funding than traditional Brits. Citizens of both countries thus see the growing population of foreigners as a threat to their livelihood. However I'm optimistic that SA won't really be messed up considering the staggering influence of the white families here in the country and the important leverage theye have in form of credit facilities to most South Africans. Furthermore any drastic decision of South Africa to 'reclaim' their country would spell doom for them due to the ingrained laziness and obvious lack of a competent skilled workforce to drive the economy. Just my humble submission though.

South Africa's downfall is coming fast unless Jacob Zuma leaves today. Look at the educational sector, the universities used to be very great, but now the grade 1 to 12 schools are getting worse by the day. Due to corruption and contrasting economy of S.A. govt can no longer fund education adequately. Things like this will only get worse. For the paat 3 financial years S.A. economy has contrasted instead of growing, S.A. is sitting on a kettle of gun powder that can explode anytime.
As long as the economy is getting worse the shouts of reclaiming the land will increase and you know S.A.'s biggest problem? South Africans and residents have not seen their problems some that see it believe its the whites that is causing it or foreigners. I said it on this trend weeks before the last xenophobic attacks that there was going to be one soon i was shut up. It happened, i said it too that fees must fall protests will kill educational institutions I was also told to shut up. The thing about most Africans is that we always hope, when the signs are there.

Keneking:


So what is your point. Businesses have no choice than to cooperate with Gigaba and endure till 2019. Investors have no option but stay put.

Zuma's wife would emerge as the First Black SA President. Cyril Ramaphosa is being schemed out politically from succeeding JZ. The Women's league of ANC has the support of JZ.

Even if the ConCourt approves secret ballot for the vote of no confidence in Parliament, the Parliament can't be dissolved.

Unfortunately the guy people think can protect the treasury from State capture is gone forever. The economy would grow and remain stable. With downgrades here and there all these are political. The Guptas' have the country in their pockets already. Do you think their investments can go for a toss?

Anyway, which ever way you look at it, earning ZAR is far better than NGN both in short and long term perspective.

Making money in ZAR is better based on perspective, there are more millionaires in usd in Nigeria than S.A. it also depend on what you do. I am an entrepreneur and the opportunities am seeing in Nigeria i never saw it in S.A. i do not believe in a capitalist economy, the same people that own bread factories own the banks. 80% of the land in S.A. is owned by 5000 white families. That explains why the same bread you see in cape town is what you see in jozi. Even to set up a bread making factory in S.A. na its impossible you have to franchise from existing factories like Albany or Sasco. With credit downgrade we will see and continue this in 2 years' time

Keneking:


So what alternatives for businesses outside ZAR? Nigeria or Zimbabwe?
Local businesses have got no choice - either cooperating with Malusi Gigaba or managing the situation till JZ's election in 2019.
For forex, SACB would simply intervene periodically as mandated by law to protect the economy.
Rands is still one of the stable and strong currency in the whole continent at least better than "useless" NGN

My thoughts though

You really don't understand how the currency work. First i will teach you some basic economics. Our economy in Nigeria is not credit driven, south Africa is. This is potential danger now that in under 10 years S.A. credit ratings have gone from A+ to junk status. SARB has ajusted lending rate from 4% to 7% in 4 years. And will review upwards soon because of junk. In S.A. you hardly see anyone buying cars in cash they do it on credit and the instalment will go far up now, same goes for mortgage and credit cards. Now there will be massive job cuts and since SA is more or less a capitalist society, going into business will be hard.
In nigeria we are not controlled by indices we see on paper. We have so much informal sector, we are used to economic changes and the worst that can happen has passed. We dont rely on FG for anything. Unlike S.A. 17 million people out of 54million are on social grants how will govt continue funding the scheme. If they stop more chaos in the system.
Another thing you should look out, a lot of people that migrated lawfully outside nigeria did so for economic reasons, so if the economy of your host country starts to shake immigrants will feel it more. Especially in a country that is known to be xenophobic. Its better to be in one's home country with a bad economy than to be in a foreign country that has a bad economy.

Even without junk status South African rands is one of the most volitile currencies in the world. It is affrcted by so many factors. Price of commodities such as gold, political such as if zuma sneeze rand go shake, it also affected by currency speculators recently banks were indicted for this.

Malaysia has a very week currency compared to the US dollar but they are one of the best economy in the world. If an economy can stabilise its currency no matter the rate the country will do well. The problem with naija currency of late its the fluctuation of the nair even if it is 1000 naira to $1 let it be stable naija will adjust.

Finally, if (and i repeat if) zuma goes in 2019, he will put his stooge probably his ex wife to continue his legacy. Believe ANC will win again and zuma has majority of support forget the media. Already there is a campaign to take back the land from the whites and this time they will do it because that will appease people towardsANC. The protests last week was termeda racists protests, EFF's own tomorrow might be bloody. 2019 in S.A. is too long to hope for unless zuma goes today, which is impossible he has the country by its balls

PRETORIA (Reuters) - South Africa's central bank on Monday warned that the recent cabinet reshuffle that saw the finance minister fired and the country's credit relegated to "junk" could pressure the rand and accelerate inflation as inventors sold off local assets.

The rand has slipped nearly 12 percent since March 27 when President Jacob Zuma recalled then-finance minister Pravin Gordhan from an international roadshow, before firing him later that week.

Last week S&P Global and Fitch cut the country's sovereign credit rating to subinvestment on the back of Gordhan's axing, both saying his departure raised the risk of a fiscal policy shift.

"Rising uncertainty about the future of economic policy could prompt capital outflows in anticipation of such downgrades," the Reserve Bank (SARB) said in its annual Monetary Policy Review.

The bank said the biggest risk to its policy aim of keeping consumer prices below 6 percent was the weakening exchange rate.

"Domestically the situation has been challenging ... it has been making policy-making very difficult," he told a news conference after the Reserve Bank (SARB) released the review.

In March the bank kept its benchmark repo rate unchanged at 7 percent, citing re-emerging risks to the exchange rate. It added then that it had reached the end of its tightening cycle which has seen it lift rates by a cumulative 200 basis points since 2014. [nL5N1H74WI]

"The risk is that the rand could follow a more depreciated path than expected, which would, other things being equal, raise inflation," the bank said in the statement.
Prior to that meeting, forward rate agreements were pricing in at least one rate cut by 25 basis points in 2017, but on Monday the forward markets were pricing zero percent probability of a cut this year.

In response to questions from Reuters on Monday the bank said it would stick to setting benchmark lending rates rather than intervene in the exchange markets. [nJ8N1BY02B]

"We would consider becoming involved if the orderly functioning of the foreign exchange markets is under threat, guided by financial stability considerations," Deputy Governor of the Reserve Bank (SARB) Daniel Mminele said in emailed responses to questions.

http://af.reuters.com/article/investingNews/idAFKBN17C22M-OZABS?pageNumber=1&virtualBrandChannel=0