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HRMK:
IT MATTERS!!

It doesn't. No creditor or landlord cares where you pay them

superCleanworks:
Funny boy talking about YOU PEOPLE. Holiest man on earth.
Even you will be in hell going by all the rules and regulations written in the Bible.
Not a single person on this earth will escape it, assuming it is a real place.

E go shock you. And at least you already know your own case is settled forever and you are going to hell and you will never be among those wearing white robes in Revelations.

So, ypur case don close!

JoeEeL:
Oh hell burning and burning, and my skin remains and remains, and a devil with big horns and a garden fork... Im so scared.

Yea that is why boko haram, iswap and fulani herdsmen are sending xtians like craze to the great beyond.

You both are roughly the same thing, only difference is that they have the balls to do it, not minding the stain on their religion. But as for una, you secretly wish you had the gumption to do it too, only that you have to sell a deceptive outlook of being different from them.

See madness. This one is saying cloth (skin) is the one burning and saying christians are like herdsman. Proof that you are a mad person.

Pay for your sins!

superCleanworks:
If God wanted the whole world to be without a drop a sin, he/she would have made it so from the start.

Going by all the standards, rules and laws in the bible; even yourself is going to hell. Nobody will escape it especially when you are in a 3rd world country like Nigeria and faced with hunger and plenty people to feed 365 days a year.

War around the world. Have you ever wondered how those people feed and what they do to survive each day? Go there and tell them they are sinning.

Repeating yourself changes nothing and every evil thing going on is because you people love it like that. So war and hunger and all the bad shits you people suffer are just ypu people harvesting the evils you people planted.

Faposky95:
Don't allude sin with a credit card all because you want man to fear.
Love their Lord, Thy God YAHUAH......
We need Credit cards....both sinners and saints alike

Correction!

We already have credit cards and we all come with it.

JoeEeL:
Ur case is hopeless.

Says the one going to hell!

lanre316:
So those that didn't sin will not die?

Abi, how do you people reason sef.

Do.you not see that we do not die? Do you not see that what we call die is "sleep"?

Reason well!

oluwaseyi0:
The question is what is sin vs crime

There is no such thing as sin

You are either a criminal or not

Between sin and "crime" which came first?

Sin is the real thing crime is a creation of bandits (sinners/criminals) who unlawfully appropriated rule (govt) to themselves who now started playing God and started determining what things are crimes, even if they are not and what things shall not be crimes, even if they are.

JoeEeL:
But ur wicked politicians live longer than u could ever.

With all d evil d british monarchy did all over d world, lets just even limit it to Nigeria, did u see how long and in sound health the Queen lived?

Just deh play.

Xtianity is just the baptism of weaklings. Its like when an adult beats a child and because d child is not sure of how to retaliate, he gestures “waka” behind the adult. But its just a wish, the waka does not work, no matter how bitterly d child wishes it did.

Y’all are like the kid.

And in the end did she and they not die? Do you not see that they forgot that they are dieable?

Everyday or years for the thief but all a Judge needs is ONE DAY!

HRMK:
payment on earth or in heaven?which exactly?

E matter?

Payment na payment. No Landlord or Creditor care where you won pay as long as you dey pay!

I

superCleanworks:
Abeg shut up

If God wanted the whole world to be without a drop a sin, he/she would have made it so from the start.

Going by all the standards, rules and laws in the bible; even yourself is going to hell. Nobody will escape it.

Did God not already do that?

Go to hell, for some people have already made it and Revelations already foretells us that many would make it, even though you would be going to hell! So go to hell and pay for your sins!

Same for denials and delusions!

Franzinni:
ok so what is the truth you have to say and how do you intend to back it up in reality ? Not some fairytale written by people ages ago and doctored by the Catholic church to help legitimize their claim to power. Please what is your evidence for heaven and hell ...? I bet you, you don't have any ... And that there lies my point ... But you deny that you are about your belief ? Make it make sense

Your fear of death, like most people on the earth is one and proof of hell because you all already know that that is your destinstion. And we see them not wanting to die and hoping for anything that stop their dying and we can see that they are very unhappy to die. While for very evil people, we can see their torments and torture even before they die. And all these things are seen everyday when people die or are dying.

That is why we see even stranger overshout when a person dies even when they are not related to the person and we see their fears and cold panic, which is why like you, they have to create denials and delusions.

And the proof of "heaven" is seen when righteous people die. These ones can't even wait to die and these ones rather pray for death as they tell everyone that they choose to die rather than continue living in this world. And they die with smiles on their faces.

And we have all seen these things, so clearly and undisputably, those 2 destinations are there whether the bible told us or not and whether we like it or not!

And like a person wishing and desiring that $1 would be equal to N1, that will never change nor stop the dollar from going up, up and never coming down to even its former.N120 =$1.

Franzinni:
You keep making my point ... I never said I have transcended , even Jesus who is said to be God in flesh had to die first nah... Ok let me breakit down into smaller bits ... Maybe you will understand... Or you know what ... Never mind .

You said "I can only transcend this plain of reality " which was why i asked you questions showing how i understood your statement.

But now you have clarified that you are saying that you would "transcend" after death, the question i ask is it by your will and power?

DaddyCoool:
More nonsense. It's right there in black and white below: "He wasn't talking to you". STUPIDITY in capitals!

Of course all is there which is why it is very stupid of you to keep talking when you do not have any reasonable thing to say.

Double K.O

TheGreatIYANU:
Take it easy sir.

Lagos to Benin is 318km. What you are saying right now is, you drove NON-STOP from Lagos to Benin at exactly 160KM/H!!! And did not stop for anything!

You did not stop to pee, did not dodge any pothole, did not stop for gas, did not stop to buy rice and suya at Ore

You drove a high powered vehicle that does 0-60 in 3 seconds and immediately you put the gear in Drive (or 1), you were on 160KM/H, straight from your house to Benin!

Haba bros!

You did not pass through any streets in Lagos... your house is directly on Otedola bridge or after Mowe... there was Zero Police presence... for two hours straight at 160KM/H!

lol! This weekend go long.

Not me driving but a driver's driving.

Mowe, Redeem camp and all the things you know today did not exist. And i said from Mile 2.and mile 2 to Benin is an expressway not a street.

And no buy buy or pee break just vrooo all the way.

Beverlyjean:
Taking risks that could have ended ur life...that was reckless

All Praises to God that He blessed my waka and journeyings

brain54:
You seem to be passionate about cars...

Driving and such adventures.

That's good.

I like driving too and can say it's an hobby more like.

I used to clock 1hr 30mins driving from Abuja to Jos. If you are familiar with that route you will understand how difficult that will be because of the hilly terrain... Especially from Abuja to Jos and also the many bends and corners on the stretch. Used to see a lot of opel vectra on their backs on most of those bend... It's a dangerous route to drive too fast. But that didn't deter me. I loved speed.

I don't drive that fast anymore... Basically because I try to be a more responsible adult. Besides reflexes might not be as sharp as when I was 20/21.

But I still enjoy driving and the many adventures that comes with it.

One thing about driving is that it depends on the car you're driving... You may be doing 160km/h on some cars and it will feel like 100km/h until you check your speed on the meter!

Oh sure. In those days like movies, i was tracking the latest cars through Ebony magazine and CNN when cars and movies used to come out one by one every 4 or 6months.

That's one route i was looking forward to run but nothing has taken me there.

Speed was a thing for me since i.travelled alot growing up. But now my travel reasons dwindled and now everything looks new and fresh and exciting so no more speed.

Unlike those days, i knew every bend, jump road and bridge, pothole, and i could almost drive with my eyes closed from Benin to Lagos and from Lagos to Abuja/kaduna and Lagos to Ikom.

But its 3 years since i travelled by road interstate and i'm missing the expressway.

And ah 160kph does not feel.like 100phh ooh. No way. The stopping will tell you. It feels like it takes 2 minutes,to come to comtrollable speed from 160kph.

You just reminded me that the i ran 180 kph on that same Benin Lagos and i ate 2 hills of continous safe braking to drop to less than 80kph. That was when i decided not to run 180kph again.

Even the 160 i.do is very tentative, but i am more comfortable with 140/150

DaddyCoool:
See it below, your whole asinine point was that he was not talking to me!🙄

See how you are just changing post from place to place since you see you have nothing inteligent to.say.

OgaTheTop2:
Ogbeni, did you ever drive 2hrs Lagos-Benin?

Yes or No?

Abeg dey tell lies small small na

Jealousy!

Go drive benz, run Benin Ore come tell us how much time you chop.

samwash:
You can't make Benin to Lagos in 2hrs by road, from Benin bypass to Ore is 1hr already at most 45-50 mins if you are super fast.
@Op, even the years you mentioned, the roads where not good then, how come you made that journey in 2hrs.
Even now when the road is a bit better between Edo & Ondo axis, but the police & others forces road block you go jam go even frustrate your journey.

When you say bypass, you have missed it. The road only peeled, it did not have craters. And you cannot imagine that that road did not have checkpoints.

And you have obviously not driven a benz to see that, that car is truly a beautiful speeding beast that unless the road s like Badagry Seme, portholes do not affect it.

Skii:
When roads were good, no check points and toll gates were still in existence...Lagos to ibadan, toll gate to toll gate, Datsun Bluebird with an average speed of 120km/h - 140km/h...55mins!

Oh Bluebird is it not Nissan Bluebird? Liked the car and loved the name.

Just checked it, Datsun too had a bluebird.

dgitrader:
It was very fast then, but anything less than 3hrs is a bit an exaggeration. I did the trip countless times with my dad in the late 80s on Passat and later 505. There were several active toll-gates and even Mobile police checkpoints.
More over travelling was great joy then, who did that in a mad haste? With all the several fruits, palmy and bushmeat stops littered along ore? Except you were a 505 ambulance

Yeah 3 toll gates then (Ijebu ode, Ore and Benin) but there was no back up in paying the toll and to me in 10 seconds payment is made.

My uncle's Jetta did it in 3 hours. But My friends Santana did it in 2 also. Driver came from Lagos to pick him from school saw him approaching Benin toll gate while we were leaving. You wouldnt believe the driver caught my Hiace in Ijebu Ode toll gate and we both entered the toll booth at the same time And in seconds as my Hiace was lurching forward, Uncle Santana showed what take off looks like and secomds later it disapeared from sight. .

(Oga Ivory Bank driver, i.hail o. I follow your footstep small.)

Check points then were not many i.think they were 3 tben and they only stopped Benz 200. (flat boot) because that was 419ers cars, which is another reason why it did not make the record. But all others just come to a roll and they do not need to stand still before police wave them on to go. But if it was benz 200, you must be stopped and parked.

And eh, do you remember the Land Cruiser highway patrol? i remember one benz took off, and the policemen jumped into the land cruiser in pursuit and we did not see the 2 of them again till some many minutes later. I wonder if the cruiser would.have caught the benz, (don't think so) but because the police would radio the other checkpoint is why i think the benz guy had to stop.

brain54:
Yeah...

Wow! I would have love to.say i would do my own but for me travel includes stopping and buy buy and i like having at least half tank whenever i enter my destination, so i wont be pursuing this record.

Rexymania:
With all the bad roads in those days, I don't think what you are saying now where possible. Na Jonathan fix the road

They used to patch the road before Uncle Jo relayared it. And that patch gave it a very sweet sound when speeding over it, gbush, grrrrrr, .gbush, gbi, . And that music starts from immediately after Sagamu to Benin. (And it is still there today)

Thats what makes me remember this road amd my many experiences on it. And this is where we say benz na benz.

I bet you, you did not notice that that road is hilly and most cars lose speed going uphill, till today, even our dearly beloved Camry (though it is not like 504 ooh.) But in a Benz you will almost not know the difference between a plain and hill.

brain54:
I think 2hrs and a few minutes on top is highly possible...

The last time I did that route from berger in Lagos to warri,it took the driver 4hrs and 20 minutes. Although it was those hummer busses and we traveled at night with the road being very free. I don't know how fast he was driving because I didn't check the speed gauge. But we arrived in that time when I calculated.

I usually estimate that benin takes half of the journey. Plus or minus.

2 hrs and a few minutes is okay very normal. 2hrs on the dot wouldn't shock me for a very fast driver.

All things being equal with a good car and clear road o!

Wow 4 hours? The driver did non stop then?

ElevationD:
It was never possible to travel from Lagos to Benin in two hours with such regular cars on the bad roads. Even with lesser “highway patrol” officers, no one could drive that super fast.

You’d first get to Shagamu which too twenty minutes on the two lane road. Next to Ijebu ode in 30 minutes. Next to Ore in one hour. Next to Okada in 30 minutes and the last leg into Benin city in 20 minutes. With fast cars and speed living drivers, it was a minimum of 3 hours and half. Do not forget that bad roads, especially at Ogun state end, have been there for over forty years.

It was much more pleasurable travelling on that road, when there were no herdsmen. You could drive happily at night, except for armed robbers too. Those were the military days and early days of the OBJ government. The rest is history, as politicians used that road to amass wealth with endless contracts.

You obviously have not travelled in a benz before else you would know that portholes is part of the road and the car does not feel or notice it.

Do you know that Ore to Bypass (Benin) is shy of 1 hour if you do not mind the fuel?

laivwire:
I am only familiar with the Peugeot 504 and 505 evolution era where Ibadan to Lagos was done in 1 hour. I also remember how the V-boot bounce was popular back then. Volvos were known for the unique loud engine noise and the Datsun was a popular Ibadan taxi (Brown and yellow).

Of course, the luxurious buses were always on top speed and flash you to shift lanes when coming.

To add after reading some comments:
People tend to estimate the travel time not from their houses but from when they see "Goodbye to Lagos" or "Welcome to Ibadan" sign post.

I also forgot to include the freakish J5 accidents back then.

Travel time! Thats True. I remember that when we started count from the house, it is always spoilt when our parents or driver turned into a petrol station to buy fuel whereas we thought the journey had started. So some people started counting from lagos toll gate (goodbye to lagos)

And yes, the consensus was tbat Lagos,Ibadan was 1 hour but many people too say that they did it in 45minutes (my neighbour and his Datsun Laurel)

For luxurious bus i am sure you are thinking Volvo's Maecopolo and Mercedes Scania,. These ones came in around 1999. The available ones were either these ones
https://www.shutterstock.com/search/mercedes-benz-old-bus or Federal Mass Transit (Anamco Mercedes bus 1414)

And yss, J5 munched people especially in the North.

Dronedude:
Hope you now use flight.

In those days only when unavoidable but these years video call and bandits has stopped me from traveling since people are not easily travelling today.

But, i miss the express

Franzinni:
you really need to have the capacity to grasp concepts to realize the world is bigger than you can possibly imagine ... You seem not to understand transcendence and that right there is a clue to your present cerebral capacity and as such it is of little benefit to me to continue in this line of discussion. So have a wonderful evening.

This is the meaning of transcendence according to Google search

"Transcendence comes from the Latin prefix trans-, meaning "beyond," and the word scandare, meaning "to climb."

When you achieve transcendence, you have gone beyond ordinary limitations. The word is often used to describe a spiritual or religious state, or a condition of moving beyond physical needs and realities."

Hence transcend means to something beyond ordinary limitations, like you turning yourself imto a bird to fly from PH to Atlanta,

So, do tell, what and when and how did you.achieve transcension for i know people have never seen anyone transcend?

So, don't run away, come and tell us what we do not know, if you speak the Truth.

Franzinni:
You speak like you have any facts to back up your belief ... I guess we are on different vectors in the universe now , like I said, I dont care whatever you believe in bro, and I dont have interest in saving any souls, so you can believe in flying pigs for all i care ... It's perfectly ok.

Deflecting again!

Did i say anything bout my beliefs? No.
So dont kid yourself. I aint in the save your soul business. No I am in the Truth only budiness and right now, you have not been saying the Truth.

So, all i am doing and going to do, is to argue against your delusions and the lies you hold that is all. And my beliefs are not in issue.

So come and tell us what is True for in this universe, it is already a proven fact that your creations eg cars and phones and robots cannot die without your permission, so there is nothing to argue.

So, why dont you live your life without delluding yourself if you truly thought that hell is not waiting for you at your death?