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koladata:
I don't think there should be hell fire given that God created good and evil but then what should become of people like Obasanjo after embezzling 16billion dollars meant for Nigeria Electricity ?

Given that God created good and evil and The Laws controlling them, going by His Laws, the evils must be punished according to the evils they have done.

And that punishment cannot be done on earth because the earth was created to be very good.

So they must transferred to o the place that is very evil to serve their due punishments which is why there is a place where Obasanjo and co would be punished.

ThinkSmarter:
Both Heaven and Hell are imaginary creations of the Bible writers and translators.

The wishfulnesses of those qualified to be done

See Delusions.

Is it Christians who formed the word "hell" that every language in the world has their own native word for a spiritual realm of evil and suffering beneath the earth where the wicked are punished after death?

You are just trying to delude yourself since you already know that you are qualified to be there.

LordReed:
Except magic cannot be seen anywhere. Reality may be strange but it isn't like a fantasy tale.

You will always be a devil
So even as you see Isreal and Gaza fighting and all, yet you choose to Lie;

LordReed:
The story has more plot holes than a sieve.

No one can tell a whole story spanning generations without holes and cuts. So you are talking rubbish.

Samueltemi337:
That's your fellow man you are replying to

If you look at one of my post I was not sure what gender it was but as soon as I saw something, I now new that, that thing is a "She".

FiveFootNinja:
...My only problem is that they refuse to keep their beliefs to themselves, with their annoying preaching and evangelism, and their annoying habit of always seeking hand outs and special privileges just because they have imaginary friends and I don't. 😂

Right now did you tell the op to keep his beliefs to himself?

No!

See, you are exactly the same people you are pointing fingers at whereas you are 3 times worse.

Samantha125:
That's what religion does to you... I've been there myself and I was once like that.

Immediately you start questioning the religion, you'll be considered an enemy...

Is this not done in every aspect of living? Whether in your family or in the office or on even simple WhatsApp group?

Just yesterday some residents challenged the position of why the estate's gates should not be opened at all for residents even if it is 2am and the opposers are being looked upon as enemies.

Or is it the one where someone disagrees with the chairman of the club and malice and hatred starts?

All these are actions borne out of human behaviour. And it is known that we have evil and bad people in the society who behave badly, so how can any sane person blame this on religion?

DaddyCoool:
I Added this:
8. What was Adam supposed to do, his wife now knew he was a slowpoke who did not even know he was naked. If he didn't eat the fruit, if you were his wife, would you stay married to a slowpoke with no self-awareness?🤣

It is obvious that your intention is to be annoying for if you were not a stupid devil you would have seen that it was Adam who dumped her when he discovered everything and called her Evil. And that is why till tomorrow evil devils like you live in the fear of being dumped.

Which is why you people try to dump guys first before they dump you.

So it is good that men are now seeing that you people are devils and the bona fide children of Satan and so they are no longer marrying you.

And so you people must die in frustration after living misery fully.

Domainer1999:
I believe religion is a tool invented to placate those that have been struck with the unfortunates of life and promise them a state of eldorado in Afterlife.

Those that had encountered the negatives of life as regards their biological, environmental and natural make up.

It then become a potent tool in the hand of those wielding it on those they controlled hence you see that most religious rules only applies to the weak and low lives of the society and never those that have survived most life chaos.

It’s also a great tool to strike fear in human since its ultimate goal is to fear something/someone no one ever see but believes in his existence.

The only excuse I give for its reality is ‘afterlife’

I believe if someone truly creates this world then, there should be afterlife to balance the injustices and oppression of this world.

Cc CaveAdullam, pansophist, Samantha125, lordAdam16, Gerrard et al.

No need to believe. Religion was already running before evil people started invading lands and used their power of destruction and death to suppress people.

Then they real eyesed that that was not enough. So they used anything (brainwashing/politics) and everything (bribery/religion) to force their will of ruling and controlling the lands they invaded.

So this is clearly where the tooling started. But rather than blame the tooler you are rather joining the brainwashed bandwagon to blame the tool.

verdad00:
I see your parent's stupidity in you

See Curse of generational Madness and that Curse shall kiil you with trailer tires

If una like ask why from now till Judgement Day, all of una go roast for the Fire wey God don prepare for una and una papa Satan.

DMCY:
Why didn’t God cleanse the heart of Adam and Eve from the sin they purportedly commit and make them pure again instead of making their unborn children who knows nothing to suffer?

Why wasn’t the devil killed or made non-existent anymore after he failed in his coup, since he’s the one that created it?

Why was sodom and gomorrah destroyed when in actuality incest has been on right from the offsprings of Adam and Eve, abhi who cain marry?

In your mind you sounded intelligent saying "purported" for a crime which they confessed to.

Thank God, He did not so that devils like you would show themselves and burn

Everyday247:
You ask too much questions.
If care is not taken, you may go missing.

Be warned!

One day she shall go out and trailer shall turn her/him to ground tomatoes.

DaddyCoool:
1. How can they know eating the fruit was bad if they didn't know bad from good

2. Why didn't they eat the tree of life all that time - and they were NOT forbidden from it. It said clearly they were banished so they won't eat it (NOT so they won't continue eating it)

3. Why was the Serpent created wise and tricky but not them, and then allowed access to them, knowing he can easily deceive them

4. Eve, who was the one deceived, was not yet created when God gave Adam the instruction

5. Omniscient God already knew they'd eat the fruit even before they were created

6. Life also became difficult for animals even though they didn't eat any fruit

7. The Serpent's punishment was crawling on the ground, but that's what Serpents do, that's just their nature, and they do it effortlessly, and they're not the only ones who crawl.

Add yours

See Fallacy of Excessive Burden.

You know no one has the time to answer all these stupid questions you imagine to ask but in your stupid mind you think they make sense.

1) Firstly, it was good and and bad that they did not know but good and evil.

Secondly, No one accused them for knowing or not knowing good and bad. So you see this is a very stupid question.

2) Mango and Corn is in season now and many like me are eating Mangoes while postponing corn, so that tells you that it is not by force that they must eat all the fruits.

So no need to wish devil, you are going to burn in hellfire.

3) Devil, you want to pretend that you did not see the words "of all the beasts of the field"?

Meaning it was not wiser than man as proven by the fact that it did not catch Adam, who was the first there?

As I said, your peril and punishment is at hand and any small kpakam, na hellfire straight.

4) Her answer to Satan tells you that therefore it means Adam informed her, exactly how you are informed that you should not steal even though you were not there when The Law was first given.

So, this is a very stupid query.

5) You also omnisciently knew that your children will grow up and can be armed robbers instead of bankers yet you have them, why?

6) The chicken and the birds prove you are talking rubbish.

7) You crawl on your belly for a whole day and see how sweet it is.

dru23:
And I will continue to avoid buying Nigerian used cars

You are rich na!

MOTIONTECH:
you are still defending wrong knowledge further , engine oil is not just engine oil, the numbers you see on the body are not just numbers, they have meaning.

Yes. We know. And the million of Nigerian drivers and vehicle owners prove that our 50w20 oil has been very good to us and our vehicles.

delkuf:
that thread was thankgod accusing me of saying that eternal life is not permanent. So I was replying him.


You using English to define what the Bible says. If the English define it like can't ask God what he intended it for. Or you think the Bible is the text book you read in school.

Revelation 21:4 and other scriptures already confirm the English meaning of Eternal and Everlasting.

So you are already Wrong!

Sand2022:
One can lose their salvation from our perspective. But from the Father's perspective, once saved, is always saved. That is what Jesus means that no one can snatch such ones from His hand.

We don't know whom God has foreordained for salvation even prior to their birth.

At Romans chapter 8:29,30 the chain of salvation is laid out. I feel this is true from the Father's perspective, but in our eyes if someone comes to faith, we feel he can't lose it. The fact is, we don't know those whom God have sealed from the foundation of the world for salvation.

When Judas came to faith, from our perspective, we might think he will hold on to the end, but God knows he wasn't predestined for that. Only in our eyes does it seem to be the case.

In summary, is once saved, always saved? yes and no.

From God's perspective, yes.

From our perspective, no.

See, you could not clearly say that Judas is saved, clearly you are wrong.

delkuf:
you see there you are wrong. I would have first ask you this question before I even engage you.
Please if truly you are a Christian, humble yourself and learn what really is eternal life. Not all this running from one thread to the other that you do here on nl. This is where glory of God start in our lives. Christ in you the hope of glory. If Christ is not you, you don't have any glory. So try and know what eternal life truly is.

Man, you are spiralling out of sanity.

Eternal already means

eternal
adjective
1.lasting or existing forever; without end.

Which therefore means that eternal life definitely means Life with no termination or endings as already stated by Revelation 21:4

And since you agree that

delkuf:
I hauve never said eternal life is not permanent. ...

Eternal life is permanent...

You therefore confirm what I have said.

So, you are just confusing yourself with this crazy proposition of yours where since last week till today you are not able to substantiate any difference between Eternal Life and everlasting life.

All you have done is just to move from post to post

radautoworks:
An insurance write-off is triggered when the cost to repair the damage to the car exceeds the value of the car itself. It may be body damage or mechanical damage. It is also automatically triggered if there is damage to the frame/chassis, regardless of cost, as that is now a safety issue. First-hand knowledge handling insurance repairs in Texas.

Yeah I know. They are all about the money.

But Nigerian car users are all about the buyability, fixability, speed, abuse aka strength and power etc

MOTIONTECH:
chaii....it's the way you are defending your wrong knowledge for me.

It's the way you are taking a very simple everyday thing people discuss in mechanic shops and trying blow it up like a nuclear bomb.

delkuf:
can i ask you a questions.
What is eternal life

This will be you reversing the burden.

But ok, let's reason together.

I have answered your question, but do note that as it stands now that you did not answer mine.

delkuf:
Stilldtruth answer the question na. What is eternal life

Everyone knows that It means Life with no termination or ending

delkuf:
when you are saved doesn't automatically mean that you have eternal life.
You are saved by believing that the Lord Jesus the son of God that came to this world to die for our sins, but for you to have eternal life there is a process you go through AFTER YOU ARE SAVED. Note words after you are saved because you like asking and twisting words

I don't understand. If a person is saved eg a passenger from the Titanic in a life boat does he not have his life already?

Or when a death row inmate is given amnesty, does he still remain in prison to be put to death?

MOTIONTECH:
which school did you go to? You need a refund oo. Internal combustion engines are the same everywhere whether BMW, Jaguar, Volkswagen or any other brand, nothing like extreme example.

Clearly, you live in one British village in Huddersfield.
How many people in Nigeria use BMW, Jaguar, Volkswagen? Mr Fallacy

OZIOGU1:
Is about principle...

Men are wired to see fresh woman as a "want" not a "need".
one way to control this mindset is to create a memory with your woman.
Most at times, my wife will tell me to remind her our courtship period and i will gladly take down memory lane how we started.
sex is just a desire for men, again sex is not a guarantee that a man will not cheat.

Na Lie. Na you wire unaself.

Then the women also are wiring you to knack them.

Then the wife also wires you to knack them.

Nicenancy:
A man said :

"the best way for a wife to stop her husband from sleeping with other women is to always sleep with her husband."

Is this true?

Not True.

MOTIONTECH:
If this theory is true it should be applicable in all cases.Lets not look like we didnt go to school because we want to buy cheap oil.

It is school that taught me that using an extreme situation to make an argument is unreasonable and invalid.

delkuf:
you are lousy but I would because for others sake reply this.

So in your years of being a Christian you believe that you automatically receive the gift of eternal life after you are saved. So you think that is how it works. My brother if you don't know something try and ask....

You are shifting the post, dodging the question asked and trying reverse it and put it on me

Whereas I have asked you
"You unequivocally stated on your other thread that

"i am telling you that for you to save you must believe in the finished work of the Lord Jesus on the cross. And after that you are justified from all your sins."

Now, you are recanting adding "and that man is given eternal life".

If a person is saved does it not automatically mean that they have eternal life?"

If you cannot address this issue, we understand!

gohf:
This is what you read....

I also read you saying

"Because if anyone falls away they won't receive eternal life".

Hence the question I asked which is Since you say salvation is permanent then what happens to a person who is saved as you say yet he does not receive eternal life?

Where would such person headed to since he did not get eternal life?

But if you cannot answer it and continue dodging it, we understand!

gohf:
so you can take care of something and make it eternal or make someone eternal by taking care of it.

🎉🎉 another stilly special 🌝

See how you prove you are the child of the serpent who deceived female by twisting?

See how you have moved post and serpently turned it "to make it eternal" whereas, no where did I say i make things eternal. But devil pikin must behave like Devil. Continue, the time of your end draweth nigh.