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jaephoenix:
So u finally dodged that question, eh DTruthSpeaker

Losers never get answered. Loser! 😁😁 Nyahahahahahahahaha!

SunShowAfrica:
The chicken came first. It's just common sense

I believe so too.

But help me ask philosophers, now that we have answered this question, what did we gain or lose?

And how has this question made our lives better?

AdetoyeAyomikun:
THE
Have You Fallen? What Next?

BELIEVE AGAIN IN THE REDEMPTION OF CHRIST. It is mostly difficult for a believer who has fallen to stand again because he/she will doubt his/her salvation.

GO FOR A REDEDICATION; this will help you reaffirm your stand in Christ.

Learn To Forgive Yourself. AMEN.

"Let him that thinks he stands, take heed lest he fall." 🙏

You are Wrong!

Belief will not save you for you have already committed the offence, so you are already guilty.

Blue86:
About not making it, I no be judge on that. But all I know is most of the errors in the assembly is from the pope, bishop and priests.

And the congregants are too lazy to search the scriptures for themselves, and do their own research in prayers and seeking the help of the Holy Spirit.

If a priest can say a believer's sìn can not be forgiven unless they confess it to a parish priest, citing what Jesus told the Apostles after breathing on them the Holy Spirit as a reference ; then you will know that the corruption is from the head.

The lies and fake promises of salvation and escape from the punishment the church made is what holds them captive as they know that under the web of lies the church has spun, they can be wicked and evil and yet feel secure that God would not punish them because they have many other people praying for them coupled with all the physical and spiritual cleansing like JuJu things, undergone as created and enhanced by the church.

And remember Africans and the world were JuJu people so the church just keyed into it and with half truths had a good start in becoming the biggest Liars of their day

"A half truth is a whole Lie" Yiddish proverb

Kingsempires:
The is a point ubeneditus made he said that the churches of about 1000 year all agreed that mary did'nt give birth to other children.church like orthodoxy,church of assyria all believe that not only catholic.

Like LGBTQ people A Lie is still a a Lie even if a multitude consent to the Lie.

Boomark:
The thread shows, the thread shows... Don't you have anything to show others after the thread have shown you?

That is why I have landed so all of you will start afresh. It is now very obvious that nobody learnt anything except, the thread shows.

Hahahahahaha 😆😆 The "the thread shows everything" has taken care of all that so go fix your eyes maybe after that, you will see. 😆😆😆😆

Kingsempires:
But if you do google research,it said that mary had no children accept Jesus.is it that the same word use for brethen is also used for relatives in Jew language

Google does not know anything. It is only showing what someone/people have said or believe.

But common natural sense shows that she did have children as the bible did Say.

If you claim brethren and relative then Elizabeth proves you wrong for the bible explicitly tells us that she was Mary's relative.

And the bible shows us that brethren clearly means "brothers" and it always goes further to show us the family and lineage of the brothers if they are not of the same lineage

So, we know who those brothers and siblings having the same parents different from those relatives having different parents.

So, brethren/relative defence does not stand.

FRANCISTOWN:
No go find one shot of whisky take. Cold don dey affect you.

😆😆😆😆 See am, you no even know say you no dey well. 😆😆😆

We woke up one peaceful normal day and suddenly someone is asking "the chicken or the egg, who came first?"

My people o did you ever have any reason to ask this kind of unnatural question? No

Clearly, here, philosophy aims at
1) Disturbing and distracting the people from real eyeity to force them to ask unnatural and unprofitable useless questions like "What is the source of all things"? (as francistown has just done with his story of lies)

Which I answer what for? And why/how is it important?

It is clear beyond reasonable doubt that the source of all things we know is God, The Creator!

2) Forcing the people into having ungainful arguments designed to shake their confidence and make them lose focus on things they have already seen and known and experienced, like francistown lying that
"No demon is having sex with you during your sleep. You must have touched your genitals without knowing"

Whereas, our hands were not there.

All these Lies spun so as to cast doubt on real eyeity and render people unsure of themselves and their knowledges and experience.

Example one person they say his name is Xenophanes said

"No man has perceived certainty and none will ever perceive or attain it, for however perfect a man's thought or act, he is still not sure of it"

My people who is not sure when he is fuqkin a girl? Or who is not certain when he has eaten eba?

Sefannova:
people dey o

Whom God wants to destroy He first makes them go mad.

Lucifyre:
Confused myopic morons are coming for you.

Says the clear broad wiseguy who cannot prove his case reasonably and validly.

FRANCISTOWN:
This defence is very weak. You can't see oxygen with your naked eyes but oxygen can be seem with be help of laboratory aids...

No its not!

Your case is that because you did not see it, (of which you are Lying and we all know you Lie just to say something anti Godly) it does not exist.

Therefore, he can point out that oxygen does not exist because he cannot see it with your naked eyes as you have already confessed to this Truth.

So, it is you who made a bad case, which is itself built upon a Lie and that that event never ever happened,

FRANCISTOWN:
Some years ago I had a job to do at Ijebu-ode, Ogun State. It was at a small village called Ita-marun or so, I can't really remember.
But I knew I was coming back very late around 12AM from Ita-Marun to Odosela or so, and I couldn't get any vehicle to convey me from Ita-Marun to Ogidi. So I had to treck from one place like that while heading for the junction. I was mad thirsty and hungry so I had to drink from one river like that and by the time I got to the junction and was now heading for Odosela. I became very tired, at that time my eyesight was becoming blurry, so, thankfully enough, I saw something that looked like a pavement.
Since I was mad tired, I decided to take a rest. So, I sat on the pavement. It should be around 1AM then.
It was in the morning when I woke that I realized that I slept at a graveyard. And my legs were resting on a tomb. Ha! What is this? I exclaimed. Lol!

Now that I think about it. How come ghosts didn't attack me at night, despite that I was alone in their territory and It was pitch dark?
Simple. Ghosts don't exist.
There is no such thing as demon.
Devil doesn't exist.
Generation curses don't exist.
There is nothing like the living dead.

I drank from a river around 12AM and nothing happened to me. There are no marine spirits anywhere.
There is no spirit husband or spirit wife.
There are no spirits to begin with.
No Ekwensu is after your life.

There is no spirit and spiritual world.
Stop jumping from pillar to post. Nobody is doing you. Stop all these nonsense night vigils, have yourself a better sleep. Nobody is pressing you at night.

No demon is having sex with you during your sleep. You must have touched your genitals without knowing.
I've been able to demystify every spirituality.

Ask me any question and I'll answer you.
I'll leave you with this.

The true things of life are the things you can see, but the false things of life are the things you want to see

See, atheist everyone is calling you mad!

And in additilon to your "not sanity", i know you are Lying for the graves in Ijebu ode and regions are not on the road or by the road.

So, you are just proving that atheists are both Liars and mad persons.

armchairscholar:
Feel sorry for you that you're stuck in that space

When a person.falls into. Satan's belly, he can never come out.

FRANCISTOWN:
...By the way, I have the rights to discontinue an engagement if I considered it not time worthy.

Only losers quit when they are losing. 😆😆😆

Boomark:
Have you seen how you people lie and always say what you don't know with assurance.

Someone quoted a page from here in another thread. I replied that particular post and left. That's how I joined here.

So after learning everything from this topic you still find it difficult to show where Christ said past worshippers are Christians? You didn't learn anything or maybe you are just waiting for opportunity to lie.

Who cares how you came here?

The thread shows everything we said including where you lied that you did not see it because you have an eyesight probllem..

So go.and repair your eyes so that you can see it. And repeating yourself just proves that you truly have an eye problem.

jaephoenix:
Who is commending police here?
Btw, since it's your god that make babies, ask him why he does some really poor job of it. Why make headless babies, babies with hole in the heart, babies born with cancer etc

see it, devil atheist resorts to more low blows, insults and off points just because he has lost the argument and does not have anything he can say again! Hahahahahaha 😆😆😆😆😆😆😆

jaephoenix:
Remember this is Druthspeaker. Logic and science are his worst suits. You can't get him to argue logically with you

Says the Liar! Everyone sees you say this because you are never able to beat me in any logical argument. 😆😆😆

So you go about telling Lies because you are afraid that my arguments may make atheists rethink their atheism and abandon you devil.😆😆😆

FRANCISTOWN:
Logic is a branch of Philosophy and also a branch of mathematics.
Haven't you ever heard of Logic in Philosophy and Philosophy of Logic?

Off point.
The topic is not Logic but Philosophy which you Lied saying "Philosophy was the study of logic and reasoning" whereas i have proven it is not and now you have gone Off Point.

FRANCISTOWN:
This is the reason it seems like philosophy is against the idea of a supreme being because you have to be foolish enough to believe the concept of a supreme being. But philosophy gets rid of that stupidity by making you wise thru teaching you how to reason.

Like I've said. Philosophy is not anti - God Philosophy only teaches reasoning, and thru reasoning you get rid of all stupid things in which a supreme being concept is part of.

Do you now understand what philosophy is all about?

quod approbo non reprobo

See how you show you are unstable and unsure!

See how you cancel yourself with your oxymoronic words? 😆

As you already know a person who.
Approbates and reprobates cancels his statement, so his oxymoronic statement is unbelievable and unacceptable testimony and therefore has said "Nothing", save for the parts consistent with what is on ground which is Philosophy is about attacking God, rejection of God and denial of God a getting people to join them in doing same. as i have pointed out and going to point out.

And we shall see indeed if philosophy teaches reasoning or is teaching Lies and inconsistencies and confusion and Stupidity itself, as you yourself are proving.

Ubenedictus:
Actually those who call Mary Virgin are very clear that they mean she was a virgin before Jesus and remained so after Jesus was born.
This is an old Christian belief that you'll find across Christian history

This is obviously an old Lie!

Is a woman who has given birth still be a virgin? .That is does the birthing not remove her virginity?

And this is of course aside the fact that she had other children.

Kushites:
If you were born in CHINA, you’d be a BUDDHIST or a TAOIST today.

If you were born in INDIA, you’d be a HINDUIST today.

If you were born in JAPAN, you’d be a SHINTOIST today.

If you were born in MALAYSIA, you’d be a BUDDHIST or a MUSLIM today.

If you were born in MAIDUGURI or SOKOTO, you would be a MUSLIM today.

The ONLY reason you are a CHRISTIAN today is you were BORN in a TINY region of the Earth where CHRISTIANITY is popular.

You are NOT a CHRISTIAN because you are righteous or good, or ‘chosen’ or ‘blessed’.

You are ONLY a CHRISTIAN by CHANCE.

By mere COINCIDENCE.

So to entertain the idea that GOD will TORTURE HUMANS FOR AN ETERNITY simply for being born “IN THE WRONG PLACE”, is pathetic.

The CREATOR will NEVER EVER punish you for not being a CHRISTIAN.

Now go to bed, children.

These people prove you speak foolishly!

https://www.nairaland.com/1565725/brother-saudi-arabia-journey-christ#20401068

https://www.nairaland.com/2751942/man-sentenced-death-renouncing-islam#40247210

FRANCISTOWN:
You dey mind those ones wey don ment.

It is the 2 of you who.are mental for where did God say He punishes you for not being a Christian?

Aside
You don fear run comot from.the philosophy thread? I dey wait you ooo😆😆😆

Boomark:
You are lying. False teachers always lie.
See picture of what I asked you do and you are here lying.

So the world have seen it chapter 1:1 is the scripture I asked you to type out and show me where Christ called past people Christians?

My brother it is better you keep quiet and learn. No lier in the name of Christ will enter the kingdom of God. Those who prophesied and perform miracles in his name didn't make it, how much more ordinary liars. Matthew 7:21-23. Meditate on this.

You are the one Lying in your bid to teach and promote your error. This is a thread, and everything said or not said is already captured here, so making a pic is absolutely a nullity and will not give you an oppurtunity to reargue what you lied and said you did not see, whereas, the thread clearly shows it.

Thank God you already know what would happen to Liars!

Ubenedictus:
No Sir, first born is a designation according to the law of Moses. The first born is the child that opens the womb. Ex 13 says "Consecrate every firstborn male to me, the firstborn from every womb among the Israelites, both man and domestic animal; it is mine". As you may notice the biblical definition of a firstborn is not the one who has a second born, the first born is the child that opens the womb. He is first born even if he is only son. So please, first born does not necessarily imply a 2nd born in the bible.

I don't understand, is Jesus not already the first who opened Mary's matrix?

So, The Law is already fulfilled. And this is not the issue.

The issue is did Mary have sex and had other children?

And Mathew, Mark, John,, answers yes, she did for Joseph knew Mary as a married man must do and had 6 other children.

And besides, having children is a proof that God was pleased with her for barreness is a Curse and having one child would not cut it.

Further, the bible never said Joseph's only child which it did when it was True. It even went as far as naming the other children Mary had., so i'm sorry, you are Wrong!

Ubenedictus:
The bible was never written to be read solely. It contains writings addressed to communities. The new testament was mainly addressed to the churches, people who were already taught and already believed by words of preaching. It takes its meaning in the church to which it is addressed

And you can become those people to.see what they saw and experience what they.experienced, so, this is no bar or excuse.

Since the bible is known to be True, then it is necessary to.read it in isolation so that outside Lies will not corrupt and interfere with its Truth

Boomark:
I don't follow the multitude passing through the broadway. I use scriptures to annihilate and destroy heresies and false doctrines. You can't post anything because I have already damaged the error you are believing. Tell those who defended that that I have arrived and they are going to start afresh.

I have another shocker for you people. I will invite you. See how people are holding unto antichrist doctrine.

I used scriptures to answer you and you said you did not see it! That is the definition of blindnesss. So, you have an eye sight problem.

Possibly, when we see that you can see, then we can begin ascertaining whether what you see, is valid or not.

FRANCISTOWN:
This is why I said you shouldn't have skipped your philosophy classes.

Philosophy is not like any other branch of knowledge. Philosophy simply put is the study of logic and reasoning.
Some other philosophers say it's the thinking about thinking.
Some say it's the act of thinking.

Philosophy is too broad and wide to focus about anyone's believe of a supreme being.
Philosophy only helps you sharpen your mind regarding logic and reasoning. Thinks that makes sense. I'm my own definition, I say Philosophy is an act of reasoning. Attaching values and meanings to things and events.

Now you are trying to make it sound larger and bigger than it has slready been made out to be so as to discourage me from .

See, you are truly a disciple of philosophy in that you are deliberately Lying and being misleading exactly as i have seen that philosophy teaches.

I know for a fact that philosophy and logic are independent courses thought even in different semesters. And they are taught by different lecturers.

Which is why i said, i have seen that most philosophy lecturers are atheists. But this is not so for logic lecturers.

So, you Lie, philosophy is not the study of logic and reasoning; but that is actually the definition of logic. And Google confirms this

Britannica
https://www.britannica.com › topic
Logic | Definition, Types & Uses
5 days ago — logic, the study of correct reasoning, especially as it involves the drawing of inferences.
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1.the study of the fundamental nature of knowledge, reality, and existence, especially when considered as an academic discipline.
2. a theory or attitude that acts as a guiding principle for behaviour.

And as i have already seen from the book, philosophy is trying to do many many wicked and evil things eg

1) darken the mind and eyes of a person by making them unsure about their real eyeity via asking unneccesary and unprofitable "reasonably sounding " questions. Which of course no reasonable person asks because such affairs do not interfere nor affect a person's natural living.

For anything which affects our living, even as children, we even ask the necessary questions and our parents/teachers gave us the answers which we have seen settled those important questions and we lived our lives as peacefully as we get.

But now here comes philodophy and its questions many of which go against nature and the worse of it is that we do not know for a truth where those questions come from or if those people "they say"

So, philosophy is full of "dem say' and not of confirmed Truths. And dem say already has the reputation of not being True. So, philosphy is begins with Lies and bad and fallty evidence.

2) Thus, with this, philodophy is wickedly and deceitfully trying to change people's real eyeity and perception of real eyeity, which is why i now understand more why you atheists and disciples of philosophy now no longer know real eyeity for you people have become lost in dreams and delusions like the movie "Inception" showed.

FRANCISTOWN:
Unlike religion where you can't think about some certain things or ask certain questions.
Philosophy allows anyone to engage their common sense and ask valuable questions.

If philosophy was that bad, why do you think they teach it at the seminaries?

Again, you lie when you say in religion you do not think fot if it was truly so, you would never have been able to think and choose to become an atheist.

And of course your catholic brainwashing made it sure that you do not ask questions whereas, it is natural to ask questions and parents/teachers answered them.

And for those of us who had better parents, they were not afraid to say "i don't know o."

But your catholic rulers, ruled as they please and destroyed your natural right of asking questions as a child. SO BLAME YOUR CATHOLICISM FOR YOUR OPPRESSION AND BRAINWASHING. And not all who accept God as a way of living which is the True meaning of Religion.

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And right now people are seeing that catholic church and their seminaries are Liars and just a type of evil slightly different from atheism.

And of course the world has heard about that dreadfull, scary course called philosophy which the evil bandits ruling us have forced us to know, which is why now that i am certain of what i know, i am inquiring into it. And i can see all it is truly about, hence this thread!

Kingsempires:
Hahahahaha!!!.science has caused advantage and disadvantage is humans life

No its not science.

it is people who do evil things. Join us in the philosophy thread

Blue86:
Brother,
First of all Jesus and His Spirit is the one interceding for us.
And any believer praying for another is fulfilling the act of intercession.

Telling a departed saint to intercede for you is not the doctrine of Christ.
Anything besides the doctrine of Christ is demonic.

That also debunks your doctrine that any statue in the graven image of a being depicted as holy in the scriptures can not be inhabited by demons.

Apostle John said in the ending of His first letter, Little Children, keep yourselves from idols.

That there in the picture post above is idolatry.

Catholics will never hear. They know that they cannot make it so they need people both dead and living to be praying for them.

Thus, telling them to stop is like taking away their hope, so they can not listen.

Kingsempires:
Na WA oo atheist una problem no dey finish ooo

Dat na wetin e be to be atheist. Na curse and probllem dey follow dem all.the days of their lives

Boomark:
Hahaha. It is only darkness that has it. Human beings are yet to see. You have nothing to post because such a thing does not exist.

People are now believing things they cannot defend. Smh.

Something that has already being defended yet you are the only one who did not see it. Clearly you are blind which is why you confessed that is only darkness you see.