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Fornication and slay mama na torment, yet do.you see people turn away?

You are just wastinh your time, let them be going to hellfire.

AntiChristian:
Na Christianity condone them pass! Even some priests promote it.

Even Jesus and most of the disciples didn't get married hence some call them gay!

Hence Queens James Bible for Gays was created!

Muslim the Liar, where did you see them call them gay?

jaephoenix:
So how are babies made?

Does the thread not show i answered you before and you went berserk?

If you can make babies, go and be making fir alll those cursed and barren couples; or better still teach them how to make their own babies.

jaephoenix:
Typical. See a shrink

If you all devils died o how sweet and good the world would be.

"Philosophy in a general conception can be described as that discipline which presupposes reality. (treated up)

It tries to investigate into the basis of all reality as it relates to solving human problems (stop)

Do you see what is going on? And do you see their focus?

"tries to investigate" but does not really carryout the investigation.

And this is why you would always hear atheist say "scientist say this; archeologist say that, (pleading authority) and they never really carry out any investigation of their own.

And the funny thing is when christians bring their own authorities, they start shouting "fallacy of pleading authority", whereas, they always plead authority.

2 "solvimg human problems" isn't this funny for clearly, atheists have caused more problems thereafter eg increase in immorality, increase in perversions and abominstions, gender confusion LGBTQ, drug abuse, depression, murders, unhappiness, broken family, broken marriages, insecurity etc all traceable to the imposition of the evils and lies of philosophy.

So evidentlly, today, philosophy and atheists have caused and increased the problem of this world, so we can confidently say that this statement is a Lie!

So here is the quote from the textbook as see its opening

"ANCIENT PHILOSOPHY -By John Inyang

Philosophy in.a general conception can be described as that discipline which presupposes reality" (stop)

Do you see the beginning of the aims of philosophy?

This author says philosophy presuposes reality.

Meanwhile, "presuppose" and "reality" are opposites. Like saying left right, in out, up down.

Cambridge defines presuppose

presuppose
verb [ T ] fml
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to think that something is true in advance without having any proof, or to consider that something is necessarily true if something else is true:(fallacy)

So you see, philosophy is falls (false) and starts with a Lie and a Fallacy and is built on Lies and fallacies.

Which is why all atheists lie and commit fallacies when they have no argument to make.

On the other hand reality means

REALITY | English meaning - Cambridge Dictionary
REALITY definition: 1. the state of things as they are, rather than as they are imagined to be:

Clearly meaning, as seen in nature (Natural Truth) with all assumptions, presumptions, imaginations, conjectures and fabrications being excluded.

Thus, you see philosphy starts by tricking people by using deceitful words and contradictions and falsehood to sell their products

And as you can see, this textbook even at the beginning starts a Lie and a distortion of the Truth and real eyeity.

So clearly we can see that atheists and philosophy has come to distort and disturb our perception of real eyeity (And if you remember,atheists always say this phrase )

And this is just the first sentence. well.lets continue.

kingxsamz:
I love the part @ bolded. There's nothing powerful about that name. In fact, calling on SpongeBob will probably have more effect than Jesus. Just kidding, they're both fairy tales.
Anyways, it's funny how Christians claim to find peace in their Christ but every three days in a week, they dedicate their time to fight the devil. The same devil they claim to have defeated.
I don't know anyone who's actually at peace that'll deprive themselves of sleep just to fight imaginary enemies at midnight.

With devils like you all over the place can there be peace? Never.

So we pray accidents tear you, cancer eat you, may your children stab you, may your cheating wife burn you, may you brothers break your head over property, it shall never be well with you and may you die of starvation in Jesus Name!

1) Only an idiot must think that all the Toyotas in the world need to be crammed into a ship so as to see the toyotas today.

Whereaa Mr Toyoda is still alive.

2) was the Maker of man in the flood?

So can He not remake different man againand again as,proven by black parents birthing "oyibo" (alibino) and yellow yellow and children who do not resemble their parents at all?

Redoil:
Such statement has been made around 2008 or2009 all the answers give were ridiculed

Etzactly!

And the question is,

1) Who benefits when men are turned anti God?

2) Why are atheists desperately bent on destroying belief in God and God followership?

3) Who is fueling and pushing these devild to do these things?

4) How and why is God belief and God followership very painful to the people to the extent that they have gone all these miles to see that God belief and followership is termimated?

Aims of philosophy

2) To change all Natural Truths (Truths as Shown and confirmed by Nature) into a Lie! Why atheists would say and show you homosexual monkeys so as to say nature supports homosexuality, when in fact we have all seen that no homosexual monkey exists and that to say this, atheists through their monkey scientists induced and infected the monkeys they captured to do this abomination.

And neither have we seen any natural animal or plant being homosexual.

3) To replace all Natural Truth into a Lie. Hence why atheists promote homosex and every not natural abomination that we have never seen before eg transgender, crossgender, binary etc

4) To inject Lies into Natural Truth under the cover of "lets say" and speculations and conjectures and fabrications.

Which is why every atheist loves science and their inventions as they know that scientists and inventors are actually craftily trying to destroy every Natural Truth we know so that the devils can come back and say "see, we have done it, there is no God"

Eg like them working on how a natural born man can get pregnant and give birth to a child; how to stop aging; how to cure death etc.

So ladies and gentlemen, as you can see the course "philosophy" in conjunction with science is all about attacking belief in God and erasing His marks.

Which is why you hear atheists happily boast that in a 100 years Christianity would be extinct for that is their ultimate plan.

Remman:
The first man on earth who brought about philosophy was King Solomon of the Bible and it is God who gave Solomon wisdom. Wisdom and Knowledge comes from God. Us humans only study about a tiny part of His wonders and begin to doubt His existence simply because we've studied a few and think we know all and no longer want to submit to the Almighty.

No, that is not True!

David too was a philosopher and Job too. And the Egyptians too.

And the perished civilzation of Ur Hammurabi of Mesopotamia also had philosophers.

My textbook says that these are called pre-socratic philosophers.

And naturally since philosophy (love of wisdom and knowledge and understanding) is simply the art and act of pursuit of knowledge and understanding, therefore every human being is a philosopher.

So, i.remember i used to ask since all men are philosophers already and they philosophize, so what is the aim of philosophy.

And now, i have seen its devil serving purposes 😆😆😆

A half-truth is even more dangerous than a lie. A lie, you can detect at some stage, but half a truth is sure to mislead you for looong.
Anurag Shourie

The Course Philosophy is a very big Lie!

The aim of the course called philosophy is to

1) AND THE NUMBER 1 AIM IS TO ATTACK THE 'RELIGION' OF BELIEF AND ACCEPTANCE OF GOD AND SUPREME BEING.

And that is why the teachers of philosophy are always atheists.

Which is why baby atheists and closet atheists and wannabe atheists all love philosophy.

And these so called philosophers are not really interested in any other subject matter eg why women are evil, how to have a good living, how to prosper, love and marriage, children and morality etc.

No, they are not interested in these normal life and living activities.

What they are interested in is attacking and moving any belief in God and Supreme Beings.

That is why you see that it is only in God centred subjects that you find all atheists abandon their sense of reasoning and turn philosophical citing one philosipher this and scientist that.

And remember, back then, philosophy books were very hard to read and understand and were very very confusing. And now i understand why and why i recommend every teenager and youth less than 30 years to avoid it,

And remember, it was said in those days "if you are not strong, do not read philosophy or go to philosophy classes" (i didn't listen and hmmm)

And today, for the first time i have gone back to read what i could not read more than 20years back and now, 3 pages in, i see why i could not read it back then and what philosophy is truly all about!

This is a follow up on my thread https://www.nairaland.com/7005328/funny-how-university-religion-taught#110570064

First, as i observed, we are attacked with philosophy and logic when we were young and while we still don't know what is happen nor do we know our left from our right.

And mind you, these courses are taught by atheists.

But from all the noise made about them i planned to study them, especially the philosophy part...

And now i am reading my philosophy text book. "PHILOSOPHY by John Inyang, Asira E Asira, Macauley A. Kanu, and 4 Ors."

And now, 3 pages in, i now know what philosophy is about!

FRANCISTOWN:
Both of them dey ment.

You wey na c'mon woman make you mental, you dey talk. The next one na animal go make you colo die like fowl.

jaephoenix:
I don't even know how to interface u. U did not say what fallacy I committed. And u still did not answer my question. U intentionally glossed over it to dodge the question.
So please Mr. Liar, How did your god pop up? Who created him?

See Liar atheist, stiil over Lying even when the thread clearly shows i stated it.

"See how you prove that atheists are liars for if there was a fallacy you and others would have raised it. But because you had nothing true to counter, you had to resort to Lies and Fallacy of change of post and off point in pretense of forgetting that the topic is proof of God and not "how did God come to be" which is a very big fallacy."

Atheists and Lies and Lying are like fish and water and air.

jaephoenix:
Hahahahahahahahahahaha
Lollest
Hope you guys have seen how stvpid this guy is. He said its not humans that make babies. So I asked how babies are made and suddenly he doesn't know.
Logic, u no know. Science, no way.
Mr. DTruthSpeaker what r u good for

See how extremelly stupid you are! If you himans indeed made babies no human would be barren running compass to go and buy babies like these people have proven that you are a very stupid fool.

https://www.nairaland.com/8168223/couple-buy-baby-lagos-traffickers#131197014

https://www.nairaland.com/2698793/customs-officer-wife-arrested-buying#39474189

Clear proof you had nothing logical to say but to advertise that you are very very stupid person.

Michael547:
Alright... good....it therefore means that every other religions are in the same category as the JWs and Catholics.

Oh you mean you place skate boards and bicycles in the same category as trailers and containers? You just abuse and insalt yourself

Jws and catholics are the biggest bible carrying Liars (trailers and containers) and no reasonable compares a trailer to a bicycle or even a car.

Michael547:
Now, I notice you teach religious ideas here on nairaland.
Do you speak the truth and never get attacked?

Its like they born you yesterday.

Is attack the problem? No

or that an attack is valid as justified by the multitude of unbiased and reasonable people attacking? Yes.

Everyone is attackable but not every attack is valid.

Boomark:
Show us where Jesus told the people in John 8:39 that past worshippers of God are Christians.

John 10:30 and John 14:21 has already answered you.

Boomark:
Have you ever heard about the God of our Lord Jesus, Eph 1:17. Read that your John 8:38-42 and know the difference between God and Jesus. [b]He was sent by God [/b]and didn't come by his own will. The sending started in heaven and he didn't decide on his own. He is the servant of God. If this one shock you I will give you scriptures. You people should cool down and learn.

Was this in issue? No

So off point!

PulsingPurple:
Well well well, I don't still see a metaphor sha.
I'm again hoping I understand everything correctly. It's all good.
(I just went back and browsed the meaning of 'metaphor' in case I'm stuck with old interpretations).

Bro like we can communicate better on WhatsApp I guess.





I'd end up changing your point.
But somehow, I'd rather say something like:

God has principles which nature follows, and He follows those principles as well.

Or maybe God works hand in hand with/through nature (natural stuff).

Or God interacts through nature (naturally preexisting/naturally understandable ways).

I dunno, anything around the idea that leaves God as the Supremacy and Nature as the subordinate.

Ok, it is your interpretation of my "God follows Nature".

I took it for granted that everyone kmows that everyone knows that a Ruler.and King is not diminished even when He listens and obeys His servant.

Michael547:
Ok good with your observations.....
do you know any religion or denomination that does not lie and is not attacked?
If yes, please mention.

You already know that there is none!

jaephoenix:
So how are babies made?

Don't know, don't care.

But clearly, none of us can make one exactly as we are not able to make our own planet, if not i for don go make my own planet earth make only me and selected people dey dia.

Michael547:
You just made a claim here that the JWs are liars....well you may have a point.

So, no issue here.

Michael547:
Do you know Any religion or denomination that does not lie and is never attacked by any group?

Would it be fair and right as a Christian to expose only the group that lies and not tell us the group that does not lie?

If you are not going to tell us the group or religion that does not lie, would that not mean that there is actually no group or religion that says the truth?

I don't know if the op os jw, but i think this thread also.followed a kumuyi thread another denomination where he said something similar and he got the knocks and attacks.

Same for when Adeboye says shit and also when catholics speak.

So any and all denos are attacked when they Lie.

And in Lies, jws and catholics are the biggest because they and lies are personally merged so when identified persons speak, we know it comes from their buckets of Lies hence immediate attack.

jaephoenix:
Short answer, I don't know.
I would rather say that than say a god popped up out of thin air and created the whole world from thin air.
Also centuries ago, religious folks believe lightning, floods, plants etc were made by gods. But no we know how they are made(even though some folks still believe they are made by their favorite gods, like Dtruthspeaker)
That is how the god of the gap argument came in. Inserting god into any knowledge gap we have

See Fallacies of off point and ignorantio elenchi and shifting the burden of proof.

You would not be in the wrong in claiming you don't know

But you are wrong and fallacious in using your "you don't know" to impose and block and stop others who know from giving their knowledge and evidence.

And the evdence has been given in proof thereof, which is of course can only go as far as is humanly possible.

But here you are medical doctor, among your you don't knows is the fact that it is stupid, unreasonable and fallacious to demand the impossible..

No court or debate demands that any one should prove beyond human capability and out of scope

And the topic is proof of God in relation to us and our world and not proof of how God came to be, which os not the topic.

So you are thinking fallaciously and have gone off point

So in the absence of any valid and reasonable objection to this case of proof of God, it stands that the proof of God has been given and no atheist here was able to validly oppose it.

All they did was to commit the fallacy of shifting post to an issue that is a distraction and a diversion and not the focus of the debate

jaephoenix:
So if nothing creates itself how did ur god pop up? Have you heard of fallacy of special pleading? I thought u claimed u r a lawyer but u commit all sorts of fallacies here. Every sentence from ur mouth is fallacious. Na wao

See how you prove that atheists are liars for if there was a fallacy you and others would have raised it. But because you had nothing true to counter, you had to resort to Lies and Fallacy of change of post and off point in pretense of forgetting that the topic is proof of God and not "how did God come to be" which is a very big fallacy.

So, it is you who in desperation has resorted to Lies and commits fallacies because you have no valid argument to make.

butterfly777:
This shows that you misinterpreted my post. Check it again. Meanwhile, you opinion here is same with mine. You just missed my position in thinking you're disapproving me.

Stay blessed. Eod.

You said "Its the same beginning" which is what i was adressing..

And not the point you affirm that The Lord, Jesus existed even before the world was created.

Michael547:
Why is it always about the JWs?
Why not stick to neutral bible discussions. Must you attack a particular christian denomination? If you believe you have the truth personally, why not prove it in discussions like these?

Nairaland is full of neutral bible discussions. But who here is disturbing this peace of neutrality by drawing attention to your group? No other than jw mad max.

And this is in addition to.the fact that jws are liars, which as you see everyone, including muslims and atheists attacks them and points out the fact that you people are Liars.

And instead of madmax to just run.away in shame, he continues to Lie and twist thereby racking up more attacks and insalts.

So it is jw madmax who sets jw up for abuse

PulsingPurple:
In my opinion, no.

Seconded

Kushites:
Christianity na scam.

Islam na scam.

Traditional African religion is the TRUTH.

That is why the Arab and European invaders were so DESPERATE to demonise it and impose their fake garbage religions on you.

So that you would LOSE YOUR WAY and worship gods in THEIR image.

Meaning hate yourself and worship them.

It was a psychological ploy to weaken you, so that they could better exploit your land and resources.

If you have sense, you will go back and update your traditional religion and become AFRICANS again.

Until then, keep being STUPID.

See hungry herbalist dey cry say e no get food chop! 😆😆😆😆