₦airaland Forum

menabadoo:
oga go sit down if you don't know what you are saying. I fly from enugu airport almost every month. The international terminal is still under construction, ask any other person who goes there for flight.

I will snap the picture the next time I visit enugu.

So if you fly from there every day, how is that our business. Are planes not flying from ilorin, jos, kaduna, kano, sokoto, calabar, ibadan, benin, warri etc on a daily basis too.

The bottomline is never in your life compare MMA and the revenue being generated from there with that your water logged airport in Enugu.

somegirl1:
Let me help you. My point was never the absence of international airports, but a variety of routes and operators.

Btw I don't know from or to where you travelled but British Airways does NOT fly from PHC. Airfrance and Lufthansa only do.

i took BA in 2008 from the airport.

menabadoo:
you are very naive, you see?

Enugu international terminal is still under construction, only ethopina airline is in enugu and I don't think they are operating currently.

BTW what airline flew you to London from PH?

I flew BA from PH in the past.


See another lies from y1bos -- All of a sudden Enugu Airport is under construction again. Na wa oh. Is it not the Airport with swimming pool runaway, that was commissoned by your stealing daughter and all of you were making mouth, as if it is the next DBX, boasting of how the upgrade will affect MMA. What now happened?

Haba after how many years and it is still only Ethiopian Airline that is plying the airport? Shows how dry and unprofitable the route is and this lay credence to the untold poverty in SE and the reasons multinationals and investors will never invest in that gully eroded land.

somegirl1:
I am for real. Although it might take you rereading my post several times for it dawn on you.
You will find that I'm not one of those who engages in witless word exchanges in order to appear to be passing a point across.

Is PH Airport not an international airport? I flew BA to London 3ce from there.

I thought there was fanfare and celebration when ''our stealing daughter -- Stealer Oduah'' upgraded Akanu Ibiam?

Flyoruboy:
That ain't my fault that the Big players chose the SW over the SE. Igbos are all over the country, especially in the North, yet we no see that reflect in those states' IGR, but una wan claim Lagos? ? Ko ni ragba fun gbogbo yin.

cc: omonnakoda, chinchum, scholes0, superstar1, IlekeHD, shogz89,

God will bless you. If their presence made Lagos IGR to soar, are the y1bos in SE aliens?

By virtue of their explanation, each SE state should be netting 500bn per annum.

Bunch of jokers. Asan were people.

FKO81:
I have warning you to stop mentioning Lagos, the revenue MMA generate comes from Nigerians using the Airport, compare Enugu, Imo, Asaba airports to Ibadan and Akure airports airports

Give yourself headache, the same you guys are giving yorselves headache on Iguocha orr what name have you guys manufactured for PH again?

SW rocks and SE is doomed. #Fact.

menabadoo:
what's the Yoruba name for lagos? please don't say eko. Eko is a Benin name.

You are too dull.

Even the crown of Benin, we own it. By extension, anything that is owned by that crown belongs to us.

Find another lie to use for your argument. Read up on the history of Eko Ile, aromisa legbe legbe.

inlandtaipan:
Remove the seaport tax from Igbo importation in Lagos and Lagos will be as good as Oyo state. The airport in lagos also help.

How much is the Onitsha port generating?

Sorry I just remembered you are land locked and your forefathers were too lazy to make expeditions towards the coast. I am even talking too much, the same fore fathers of yours that could not build more than hamlet and never won any war, are the ones i am expecting to be adventurous enough to venture towards the sea.

FKO81:
Ode read this report from your brother

Aviation Experts Caution States On Airport Projects

• Declare 17 Airports Redundant Nationwide
NO fewer than four state governments have unveiled plans to build airports in their respective states. The latest with such plan is Ekiti State. Besides Ekiti, Bayelsa, Abia, Osun and Ogun states are at various stages in their plans to build an airport each.

By the time the airports are completed, they
Many of the state owned airports have become liabilities to the aviation agencies, even when they do not have direct impact on the people.
There are fears also that the ongoing Bayelsa airport project may go the way of Jigawa airport. The state governor is said to be shopping for N40b loan facilities from commercial banks for the project.

Stakeholders also expressed fears over the planned Ekiti airport. They said even Akure airport, that is not too far away has been dormant for many years. They are afraid it might be another waste of public fund to build an airport in that zone.

They have therefore called on state governments to carry out project feasibility studies to determine the viability of airports in their states before venturing into such. They argued that airports should be built for commercial reasons and not for political consideration.
Presently, Federal Airports Authority of Nigeria (FAAN) manages 22 airports nationwide. Of the 22, only Lagos, Abuja, Port Harcourt, Enugu and Kano International Airports are said to be commercially viable. Others can hardly sustain their operational costs.

The Dutse airport, built by Jigawa State government, took a whooping N15.5b from the state’s loan purse. But the airport, which was commissioned last October is yet to attract scheduled domestic flights, except for charter operations and during airlifting of pilgrims for Hajj.

Aviation and Security Consultant, John Ojikutu said what is needed now is the establishment of specialised airports, adding that states could collaborate to establish airports based on their comparative advantages.

According to him, it will not be economical to have another airport in the South West as Akure and Ibadan airports have been ‘‘dormant” for a long time.

According to him, only two out of 25 airports in the country are viable, adding that government could adopt the privatisation strategy for other airports to make them viable.
‘‘We have about 25 airports in the country; seven of them are owned by state governments. But these airports cannot boast of more than 500,000 passengers each year.”
Ojikutu, also a retired Group Captain, said total air traffic in Nigeria is about 14 million, adding that Lagos and Abuja alone control about 10m, while the remaining passengers of four million traffic is shared among other airports.

Condemning the move to establish more airports in the country, particularly by states, Ojikutu said all the existing state government airports cannot airlift 20,000 passenger to any destination within the country in a year.

“You need money for landing and parking. You need money to pay for services and salaries. So, why building airports that will not be viable? Federal Airport Authority of Nigeria (FAAN) and Nigerian Airspace Management Agency of Nigeria (NAMA) are using money they generated from the two viable airports in Lagos and Abuja to sustain other airports. The unviable airports cannot even pay their workers.

To build an airport, he said traffic and money must be available, adding that apart from Lagos and Abuja, there is no airport that is viable to sustain itself.
“You need money for landing and parking. You need money to pay for services and salaries. So, why building airports that will not be viable? Federal Airport Authority of Nigeria (FAAN) and Nigerian Airspace Management Agency of Nigeria (NAMA) are using money they generated from the two viable airports in Lagos and Abuja to sustain other airports. The unviable airports cannot even pay their workers. FAAN is managing the airports in terms of security and NAMA is also helping them. They take money made in Lagos and Abuja airports to run these airports that are not viable.”
Continuing, he said there is need to privatise the airports to make them viable.

It is easy to build an airport, but it is another thing to maintain them. It is even a different thing to build them to national and international standard. The existing airports are being run by FAAN and the Nigeria Civil Aviation Authority (NCAA) cannot certify many of them because they were not built to the required national standard. There are over 15 dormant airports in the country. They have less than 100,000 passengers in a year. Abuja and Lagos airports generate 10 million passenger traffic yearly, while the remaining four million passenger traffic is shared by other airlines every year.

The ones owned by the states have only 20,000 passengers in a year. Obudu and Osubi airports have traffic. They have more traffic in terms of passengers, aircraft landing and take-off than many of the federal airports, so when states say they want to build airport, how many passengers will their airports generate? Well, they can become viable by selling low flight tickets and see if they can attract the required passengers to the areas.”

According to the retired group captain, to build an airport in a particular location, the promoters will have to take into consideration the availability of passengers and cargoes.

On what it would take to build an airport and how long it could take to complete an airport, he said the size and the duration for putting the facility in place would depend on the type of aircraft that will be visiting the airport.
‘‘This depends on the airport you want to build. It also depends on the contractor. But to build a standard airport, it should not take more than 24 months. Once you have the runway, the parking area, the Tower and perimeter security fence, planes are good to land and take off. The type of aircraft that will patronise the airport will determine the kind of airport to be built. The runway in Obudu for instance, cannot accommodate a Boeing 767 aircraft, so is Warri airport.”

On the source of financing for airports, Ojikutu said the major source of financing for Aviation sector is NEXIM bank, adding that it would be nice if Nigerian banks could complement the Export, Import bank.
He advised state governments to look at their area of comparative advantage and plan their airport project in line for their airport to be viable.
‘‘The state governments should look for technical partners, who are willing to invest in Aviation. They have to do a lot of business plan to know if their airport project will be viable. The states that are neighbours too should come together to have a joint project. Osun and Oyo can partner to buy Ibadan airport and turn it into agricultural cargo airport. Ondo and Ekiti that are near can do the same and buy Akure Airport and turn it into international agricultural airport. Lagos and Ogun can develop another agric airport. So all the intentions for states to have their own airport is all about ego, political consideration, not for commercial purpose.

Airport location is done considering a lot of factors. Is it going to be a commercial airport? What would be the benefits? Is it for tomorrow? Is the place industrialised? Is it for the export of agric products? You must name the business reasons for building an airport, which should ordinarily be built, where there is big movement of people or where it is capable of attracting people. People that travel to Ekiti do so by road,” he said.

The Managing Director of IRS, Captain Yemi Dada said availability of capital and good location are the major determinants of localisation of an airport, while the size could be determined by the promoters’ intention.
‘‘If you have money and a good location, you can build an airport, but the size of the airport depends on what you want to build. You can build a moderate airport with basic navigational infrastructure. The time it will take to complete the airport depends on the contractor handling the project. Airport is under the exclusive list of the Federal Government. It requires the permission of the Federal Government. There are several processes; it involves environmental impact assessment, feasibility studies to get approval. So in all, it could take between two and three years to come up with a functional airport,” he said.

Like Ojikutu Dada said, airports are built to bring air transport service to a particular locality. But he was quick to ask, is that airport needed in that area? If the strategy of a state is to encourage tourism, fine A larger demand for air services, is a natural requirement for an airport. You can create the demand for this service by making it a specialized airport. It can be for agricultural purpose. One of the big challenges we have now is to set our priorities right. Looking at states as they are today, it is a misplaced priority to want to build an airport. Maybe they want to have it as a long-term project.

Ekiti is not far from Akure airport. It is just a 30 minutes drive in distance. Unless Ekiti State has other reasons for the airport, which I don’t know. There are so many airports in the country that are not viable. So Ekiti State government should focus its attention on other things rather than airport. The proliferation of airports is one of the challenges FAAN is facing today[b]The airports that are doing well, like Lagos, Abuja, Enugu and Port Harcourt should be privatized to be able to sustain the others and stimulate traffic in their direction,” he said.
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The Corporate Affairs Manager of Federal Airport Authority of Nigeria (FAAN) Mr. Yakubu Dati, said airports in Nigeria are located for reasons beyond economic factors. He said localisation of airports should be seen from other social factors other than from ‘‘balance sheet.”

He described airports as necessary economic drivers as they could be used to stimulate development of a community and for employment generation.
‘‘Airports are windows of any community in a country. They are inevitable for a community that wants to be connected to other communities within and outside a country, and this is more important than profit and loss. It will generate employment where they are located, there will be emergence of other social services anywhere they are located,” he said.

Although, he argued that there is need for cargo and human traffic to sustain an airport, Dati said since it has an advantage of opening up an areas for development, create hundreds of jobs locally, the considerations for the location will be beyond the balance sheet of the airport because once an airline begins to patronise an airport, other airlines will be attracted to the place.
“The impact and contribution of airlines to the development of a society is very important,” he said.

What are you saying?

Ojikutu mentioned 4 viable airports, that are clearly gateways to the different regions. What is the revenue generated from Enugu airport, in comparison with MMA.

You must be high on fake drugs.

IlekeHD:
While they claim they're developing Lagos, their region is competing with the North.

Even if Nigeria breaks or we revert to regionalism, the business will still stay and things will keep rolling.

But to be honest, it's not the igbos we should be wasting our time on, we need to start competing with Kenya's tech growth.

I have said it on the SW thread. We need to up our game and stop glorifying ourselves for being outstanding among mediocres.

It is high time we start competing regionally with some Grade A developing countries.

wristbangle:
My friends from rivers state are beginning to frown at the igbos and they do ask how do we handle relationship with them?

They are bunch of greedy and covetous people.

Be rest assured, if the real owners of PH do not nip the Igweocha nonsense in the bud now, they will regret it in 7years time. By then, Igbos would have lied and boasted to their children that they are the owners of PH and those ones too will be regurgitating innocently until they are jolted back to reality.

IlekeHD:
What happened to Enugu international airport?

Why didn't Lagos shut down after the upgrade?

You are minding those jokers.

Can you remeber the noise they made over the upgrading of Akanu Ibiam to International Airport by ''their stealing daughter -- Stealer Odiah''.

Sincerely I felt the airport will turn to DBX or Heathrow or JFK within 6months. What have we witnessed ever since, MMA has quadripled in revenue generation and the revenue from their glorified airfield, that they are calling Intergalactic Airport, has dwindled by 7times.

somegirl1:
A functional international port in the SE/ SS would reveal where a significant portion of Lagos's revenue comes from. An international airport with a variety of operators and routes to choose from would be the final blow.

Are you for real??

Are there no International Airports in Ph and Enugu?

Why has that not dwindled the revenue of Lagos. Abeg mechuonu gi if you do not have any sensible thing to say.

Y1bos and their dubious character.

Someone should please ask them why they are discounting Lagos figure. Is it part of gully eroded land of alaigbo?

I heard they have started calling PH one very funny igbotic name --igweocha.

Gradually they are turning PH to no man's land. They failed in Lagos, kano and akure - with their no man's land slogan.

If they succeed in PH, that is the business of the ethnicities in PH and SS. Be warned SS.

FKO81:
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Igbos should go back to their poverty land . the clowns are viewing as guests

y1bos can twist water and call it fire!!!

Are you blind to the fact the report is showing. Once again, your region is the worst in the south, making you the poorest in the south of River Niger.

menabadoo:
, he's still viewing. That baboon will not come and make noise.

Orango Tang how market?

Once again your gully eroded region came last again in the south. No wonder you guys cant stay in your enclacve.

inlandtaipan:
ok ooo. Meanwhile, I have not seen superstar1 comment, I saw him viewing earlier.

What is there to comment on, when it is glaring once again that SW dusts everybody.

SE is in the league of war ravaged NE.

SW -- 324.7

SS -- 191.1

SE -- 61.1

NW -- 40.4

NC -- 45.1

NE -- 24.4


Just loving the power house of the nation -- SW.

Haters can jump into the Lagoon

keep up the good work guys.

Kestolovee95:
It is a pity the yorubas and hausas will get the people with their mindset to scuttle the Biafran dream. I think we should start writing the Biafran constitution now with every tribe's contribution and input. With 100% resources control, provincial autonomy, exit clause and what have you to allay fears.

Let's write and publish it, so that we can compare it with what we have in nigeria. We must leave feudal nigeria by all means neccessary. #AnythingButnigeria.

See y1boman's sense.

After achieving the set objective, can't you use your numerical advantage to alter the same constitution to reverse all what you agreed on before?

Brooklynsouth:
have u forgotten the progrom of 1945 u daft u see y I hate yorubas with passion what is to come ll cost a lot believe it or not yoruba yoruba u ll cry blood as for the fooolanis. I Laugh as usual they ll say its chest beating but what's to come hmmmm hmmm!

What is this tormented soul saying?

1966 killing spree of yours was in retaliation for the 1945 pogrom? If it was, you should have limited your killings to only Hausas/Fulanis.

kingzizzy:
Your problem is that you dont know the difference between unification and unitary. All 4 regions were in place with federal fiscal policy and resource control. The only thing that was missing was political control which is not possible under military rule. It was Gowon that came in, abolished the regions, created States, took away resource control and fiscal policy. Yet you keep jumping about different threads saying it was Ironsi. Why didn't you ask Gowon why he did not keep to the confederation he and Ojukwu signed in Ghana? He couldn't keep it because it prevented him and his fellow Notherners from implementing their 'divide and rule' agender. It is not keeping to the confederal agreement by Gowon that directly led to the declaration of Biafra by Ojukwu. Yorubas and Northerners have ruled Nigeria for almost 50 yeas out of 55, why haven't they brought back regionalsm in all that time?


Let's not fool ourselves here. Unitary rule rewards the parasites up in the north handsomely and they will never let it go. Regionalism or confederalism will not only drastically reduce the political power of the North, it will also greatly reduce their federal Government subventions as well because of resource control.

Therefore, they will never agree to a confederation or regionalism. The North is most likely going to fight a war than let this happen. Anyone hoping for regionalism or resource control in Nigeria is wasting their time. The only solution is Biafra or Niger-Delta Republic

What is unification and what is unitarism.

The whole essence of clamouring for secession or resource control is dependent on devolution of power.

Pre-1966, power resides with the regions. Ironsi took the power away from the region and centralised, though he left the region's as the unit of governance. He is therefore the architect of today's anarchy that all of you are shouting about that "they do not want us to go".

All other parts of your write ups are mere conjectures.

Despite all their noise, their shops were still under lock and key.

That is a King.

chuna1985:
By the statements n barks, u shall identify dem as scratch face members.

A CONFAB CANNOT BE IMPLEMENTED BECAUSE OF THE NATIONS CONSTITUTION, are u intentionally dumb

You are more daft than I thought.

The constitution forms the legal basis of anything to be done within a sovereign state.

People were clamouring for things that are not in tandem with the constitution, how will.it work? How.

The first thing was to amend the constitution to recognise voting on.the resolutions of the confab, which is not.in this constitution. Except you will pass it through the National Assembly, which will of course be killed.

We can as well save money and ask the National Assembly to deliberate on the issues on our behalf.

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NAIJASOM:
What is my business about who is Igbo or who is not. If igbos are claiming aniomas and they agree that they are, what is anybody's business? Sort yourselves out with Aniomas.

So if it was an ikwere general you and your folks would call it an ikwere coup?

What is the ratio of the officers of other ethnicities that took part in the coup, in comparison with Igbo ethnicity?

So now you are doing mathematics just to justify your blind hatred. What percentage of non-Igbo involvement will qualify to make it not an Igbo coup?

What is the number of the victims of the coup that are of different ethnicities, in comparison with the people that were igbos and were also victims?

The people killed were all politicians, not civilians. The counter coup also by Igbo officers prevented the coup from executing its full agenda which also included the eastern politicians. Also do you think that the non-Igbo officers in the coup would agree to join the coup if it was only the leaders from their group that would be killed?

Who was the eventual beneficiary of the coup? An igbo man.

Simply by default. He was the highest ranking officer and if you watch the video, you will see he was very uncomfortable with that role

It is not about who led the coup, but more of the root of the officers that carried out the coup. You said we do say Aniomas are not inbox and I said that is not our business of they are igbos or not. It is left for both of you to agree on that.

Figures arrived at mathematically and scientifically will give a clearer picture of what is being said.

Politicians are civilians. There is no argument on that.

If he was not part of the coup behind the scenes and an initio, he could have reject the post and retire honourably. By accepting the post, it clearly shows something is fishy.

Also note that the Executive Council has already Dipcharima to be the next Prime Minister after Balewa's demise, but Orizu, another Igbo man refused to swore him in, until Ironsi came to the meeting and he handed over power to him.

basilo101:
so its now about ratio? shifting the goal post is ur ppls trademark. Now answer the following questions: which parts of the country had crises and which ppl were main actors in the crises? which part had more officers in the army then??
First Generation of Nigerian Army officers,June 1959.

From Left to Right sitting: Captain Adeyinka Adebayo,Captain Philip Effiong,Captain Imo,Major Samuel Adesoji Ademulegun,Major Wellington Bassey,General Forster, Major JTU Ironsi,Major Ralph Shodeinde,Captain Zakaria Maimalari, Captain Conrad Nwawo, Captain David Ejoor.

Middle Row standing: Lt Igboba,Lt George Kurubo, (non Nigerian standing next to Kurubo), Lt J Akaga,Lt Patrick Anwunah, Lt Louis Ogbonnia, Lt Chukwuemeka Odumegwu Ojukwu, Lt Eyo Ekpo, Lt Arthur Unegbe, Lt Abogo Largema

Back Row: Lt Hilary Njoku, 2nd Lt Nzefili, 2nd Lt Ogunenwe, 2nd Lt Shadrak, Lt Madiebo,2nd Lt Anthony Eze, Lt Yakubu Gowon, 2nd Lt Sylvanus Nwanjei,Lt Yakubu Pam, 2nd Lt Hassan Katsina.

Those not in the picture are Captain Kur Mohammed,Lt Victor Banjo and Lt Michael Okwechime

For the singular reason that you had more officers in the army,it is given that more of the igbos would have taken part in the coup.

Beautiful.

By extension, if more Igbo officers took part in the coup than the cumulative sum of officers of other ethnic extraction, that makes it automatically am Igbo coup. Shikena.

The beneficiary of the coup was also an Igbo man.

How come other ethnicities had more casualties, both the civilians and military officers, killed in comparison with that of the Igbos that only lost 1 person, whose killing was even based on vendetta.

NAIJASOM:
Igbo coup led by an anioma man. The same people you guys claim are not Igbos.

The list of the the coup plotter show some people from middle belt and southwest but it's still called an Igbo coup.

The counter coup was led by Igbos but it still called an Igbo coup.

Igbo civilians were massacred in the fake counter coup but no civilian were massacred in the 7 other coups that followed.

Aburi accord which simply tried to bring back back regional system was accepted by ojukwu but rejected by Nigeria. This rejection led to the war.

What is my business about who is Igbo or who is not. If igbos are claiming aniomas and they agree that they are, what is anybody's business? Sort yourselves out with Aniomas.

What is the ratio of the officers of other ethnicities that took part in the coup, in comparison with Igbo ethnicity?

What is the number of the victims of the coup that are of different ethnicities, in comparison with the people that were igbos and were also victims?

Who was the eventual beneficiary of the coup? An igbo man.

If you can answer that, you can see the reason why it is an Igbo coup.

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basilo101:
Lmfao, same useless claims without concrete back up. Ironsi saved the country from over ambitious young officers which included ppl from East, Midwest and Western regions. subsequent military govts used unitary system and i dont problem with that but the era of military is gone, they gave us unitary system and it should be abolish in a civilian govt

Those were well documented facts.

You had the opportunity to vote for regionalism during the last confab and by the record in the history, SE and other regions refused to vote for regionalism, except SW.

basilo101:
ADEWALE ADEGBOYEGA IS IGBO ABI?

One yoruba out of many igbos?

Why was it that it was only the igbo officers that were trigger happy? Tell us one person killed by the yoruba man. Just one.

chuna1985:
Which leaders did igbos say we're protected by Angel Gabriel?

See jamb questions.

Abeg read up.

chuna1985:
The s waste clamored for regionalism in d last national confab n yet voted a military dullård who will never put it to use. Lol, Yoruba na dumbo

See the south beats foaming in his mouth.

We should have voted for cluelessness because of a jamboree, ha called confab, that lacks constitutional power for implementation.

You are too daft.

chuna1985:
Ironsi arrested nzeogwu n jailed him.

They were living big celebrity life in prison. Going for parties in the night.

While were they transfered to the prison in the then Eastern Region?