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Bride price is not reason for a man thinking he owns a woman(these days atleast), religion is.


How much is this bride price that we no go hear word for? It's even ordinary one naira in some places sef.

Plus, it's not like the woman gets any share in the said BP, so why should any man think to put his wife through hell because he gave some villagers small change? Some men don't even pay any monies, some married the women on credit yet they treat these women like trash.


Since time immemorial, we've been hearing that women were made for men, just what do you think that tells the men?

Couldn't they have taken the baby from her and given her a taste of her own medicine?

How someone with a child is able to treat another child this way is something I will never understand.

Hahaha

Very relatable.

It sure wasn't rape but he did take advantage of her.

mii4u:
madam pls we are all entitled to our own opinion, I've just stated mine but if u feel otherwise doesn't make either of us wrong, it's subjective, but I stand strongly on miine. If u read my last sentence, I made it clear that it is not good for men to cheat, I never supported their cheating habit.

Yea well, when you are giving your opinion, make it sound like just your opinion and not like a proven fact.

Saying women fit hold body and men no fit, is a conclusive statement and that is open to be challenged.

tearoses:
Sweetcocoa the truth is that for whatever reason, when a woman cheats and is caught, the perceived "badness" is more than when a man cheats and is caught.
I don't know how it came to be, but that is just the plain truth.

So also a woman who leaves her kids and walks out is determined to be a worse human being than if a man ups and leaves his kids
Everyday we hear reunions of children who have forgiven their father but its rare to hear of reunions with mothers.

Please read this thread

https://www.nairaland.com/3101122/nigerian-student-cleared-rape-uk

I was too tired to say anything on the thread yesterday, but please read the comments
Most people were like "thank God for the man, she is a wicked woman"

But the reality is that this man took home a lady he met in a club and proceeded to have sex with her even though he knew that she was drunk and she was screwing his friend.

I dont think one person said it for what it really was, which was an unscrupulous young man with poor morals who took advantage of a drunk and loose woman but the woman got the blame anyway and that is usually the case in these types of matters.

For it to get that far, the prosecution definitely thought that they had a case against him and He was probably let off on a technicality
not that he was innocent.

I know men get away easier with things like this but it shouldn't be so, and should we because of that, continue to turn blind eyes to the injustice and subtly encourage it, like the lady I quoted did?

I won't encourage anyone to cheat in revenge but I won't discourage someone who wants to either, so long as they feel they can face whatever happens afterwards.

Checked the thread and I agree with you, dude just took advantage of the girl but she is very silly to accuse him of rape, that's just crazy.

Bolade005:
How will you be able to give an objective opinion devoid of bias on something you haven't experienced?..

Wait! So one must experience something before they can have an unbiased opinion about it?

kaboninc:
It is not that you don't wish he exist or that or that you don't believe in god. It is that you hate him. You hate him because you've not found answers to questions that defies logic. Like why are we here in the first place? Like why are children born with deformities? Why will someone who claims to be a loving father orders the massacre of another group of people all because of an interest....

Good morning and trust you slept well.

Na wa o, I am yet to understand how you are the one to tell me what I wish or not, can you see inside my head?

How can I hate a god I don't believe exist? Does that make any sense to you? I have to believe he did all those things to think the way you describe and I don't.

I said I think him bad news based on the assumption of what those religions teach, that doesn't mean I believe them, Hian!

Good morning to you, I did sleep well, hope you did too.

Bolade005:
You wouldn't have answers so nevermind.

You know this how?

mii4u:
I am a woman but I do not agree with the fact that a woman has the right to cheat.jyst becos the man cheated, women has deeper heart to accommodate and forgive, that is our nature, men has little or no patience with a cheating wife, though I'm not trying to justify a cheating husband, it is VERY WRONG to cheat on ur partner, let's assume that it happened, as the man is boldly owning up before pple to say he sleeps around, can u a woman own up same before a group of pple? that is thr difference. women go fit hold body, men no dey fit, but it's not good for a man to cheat .

Men no fit hold body and men decide not to hold body are two different things madam.

Stop making excuses for them, I have said it before, some women no dey help matter at all, haba!

OLAADEGBU:
So you don't know that you are a murderer and yet you sit on the throne to judge God?

"Whosoever hates his brother is a murderer: and you know that no murderer has eternal life abiding in him" (1 John 3:15).

You and that your god are crazy.

This man is very funny but he is being honest.

I don't see how it's a good thing for anyone's emotional well being, seeing grieving parents but then again, he should know that his emotions aren't what's paramount here.


Does he have advisers at all?

Bolade005:
Are you married?

No I'm not, why?

Jahblessme:
Because it's just se x and the aim is to have an orga sm and intense pleasure nothing emotional or feelings attached.
However,if the aim is to bond and count stars together plus cuddling my hand no dey that one.Each sexual encounter differs from person to person so love can be 100% seperate from sex.

Just my opinion oo especially in the face of all this lunacy that comes from infidelity..
I respect what you've written.

But it could become more than sexx even when the intent was just to attain heavenly pleasure(according to Mr Osewa).

Love can be 1000% percent separate from sexx but is that guaranteed at all times? It definitely isn't, so I am always on the side of "better safe than sorry"

I respect your opinion too.

OLAADEGBU:
The funny thing is that most enemies of God sitting on their high moral throne here have either committed murder through abortion or hatred in their hearts.

Rubbish, who says abortion is murder? And how does hatred equal murder?

kaboninc:
Like saying well sha, him fit exist but until then, I no gree. Interesting. A quite part of you wish god exists.

Well its time for me to crash. Am sure you have your own interpretation of sleep and dreams.

Good night and look forward to continue our discussion tomorrow.

I don't wish he exists because as far as I'm concerned, he is bad news .

I have accepted the world the way it is, I only wish that humans will be better, thus making the world better.

Goodnight.

dytbabe:
No she's not
She was once a victim

You not serious.

Bolade005:
You keep saying most but you're an exception, right?

Ofcourse, I am not like most people.

Jahblessme:
@sweetcocoa
Being in love with someone does not mean you want to have se x with only that person.
You could have a ride or die relationship but the bae isn't able to give you total satisfaction in the bedroom department,or you just want to experiment,you could meet someone and the animal attraction is instant.You don't want a lifelong relationship,just se x and orga sm and goodbye while you return to bae at home.
Does that mean you don't love the bae?
I love you does not mean monogamy abeg.Not every male or female is cut out for 1 to 1 forever.
The problem is when society forces people to make promises to be faithful when they know they can't keep up.

If both spouses agree from day one that they cannot be true to eachother but from time to time would love to chop out there,there won't be killings and acid baths.One person will step out and when the partner joins e go begin cry like pesin wey dem chook stick for nyash.

Time for monogamous to pair up with monogamous and polygamous to pair with polygamous.Or accept that breaking the contract will open the door for anything without useless gender excuses.

PS who won't cheat on a man with that kind of strong face?

I have never implied that loving someone means you want to sleep with only them, love ofcourse is not attraction but attraction can lead to love and because it can get complicated, it is best to stick to that one person you are in love with.

Love is the least logical thing ever and it's no news that people get jealous about someone they love, so I don't see how you can claim to be in love and be comfortable with your lover sharing what you two have with someone else.

But what do I know?

kaboninc:
Here's a definition I got on atheism...



Then so long as there is no proof, you can conclusively say it doesn't exist. Else you're entertaining some form of belief that he does exist. And you'd look forward to actually seeing that indeed God exist.

Ahhh...you didn't get my point about having faith that bad things will happen. The abrahamic adherents had faith in their activities because they believed it will be good to them. Else they wouldn't accept it. You think its bad. Its good to them.

Do you have faith?


Its really the best thing to be faithful. I like that. Please keep it up.

Glad it says narrow, I deal with the broad sense of things.

Leaving room for proof doesn't mean you believe, it is saying it may exist, there is a chance that it's possible god exists but I need something to make me believe, until then, I don't believe, very simple.

Ofcourse I have faith, now what I have faith in, is another thing.

Yea, it's easier to be faithful, I wouldn't have it any other way.

kaboninc:
Its still an allegation. So we'll stick with it. But from all we've read so far, the woman's inability to manage her emotions instigated the event that let to her death

Oh yea? So you saying the woman killed herself?

Bolade005:
That's quite disheartening.

And what you're saying is a fact?

Yh most women think they can change a miser, an introvert into extrovert or extro into introvert, change a whole lot of things but definitely not change a kungfu master. Again, I refuse to believe MOST women would knowingly commit themselves into an abusive relationship.

Yes, if you know anything about how most people behave when they think they are in love.

skeendyke:
They exist but they are not ghosts of people who have died. They are evil spirits, demons, diabolical creatures, fallen angels wearing the mask of someone you know in order to lead you to destruction and damnation. That is a fact but not fact as defined by the physical senses of observation.

For example, in a house haunted by these spirits it is possible that only one or two people among others can detect the presence of the so-called ghosts, and can even hold conversation with them while others think their link to rational behaviour has been broken, that the mind has snapped. Because you can't see it does not automatically resign it to unreality.

How is it fact if there is no way to verify it?

kaboninc:
Atheist do not believe in the existence of a god. Meaning as far as they are concerned, god does not exist. That translates to them conclusively stating that there is God. Or your own atheism is different from the mainstream?

It is the same thing only that I added one expecting good from it. However, would one have faith in something bad? To each of the religious people you mentioned above, individually as a class, they believe that their god made things good for them. Like the Christians who believe God created man to enjoy the earth. Same with the Sango worshippers, same with the Mayans, same with the Hindus. So what's good here is relative but the point is they see good in their gods actions (as believed).


So you're the one man one woman type...hmmmm

They do not believe in the existence of God because their is no proof of any gods existing, if you bring proof then gods may yet exist. It is not conclusive because there is room for you to prove gods exists.

Depends on what you consider bad or good, so yea, someone can have faith in something bad, just like I think the abrahamic religions/gods are bad, yet people have faith in them.

Yes I am, like anyone genuinely in love should be.

kaboninc:
So what's you basis for concluding that there's no god?

What I defined as faith is just same as what you gave up there. I have this confidence that you won't fail me when I call for your help. That's me showing faith in you, in your ability, in your capability. And its something good.

Would you be open to having sex outside your relationship?

I haven't conclusively said there is no god, I just don't believe in any as there is no evidence to support the claims of god.

It's not the same thing, you are now "changing mouth" you initially said it is believing something good will happen in one's favour but it is a whole lot bigger than that, religious people don't know how the earth came to be, but they trust and believe their various gods did it, how does that translate to something good happening to them?

No I would not, flirting is already bad enough and causes trouble.

kaboninc:
Bae = baby

The world was built to be managed by men. Simple reason is that women bring in emotion into every decision they will make. Am not saying we can't have good leaders who are women. Strong leadership skills. But you find that in very small numbers. And women, by their nature tend to tilt towards less energy, critical reasoning activities and more to tender, mild and emotional things.

Heck even your physical build gives you up. That's different with men. The muscle signifies strength and that's one key attribute of a leader.

So what happens to the home when the woman starts to pursue what the man pursues?

Then why do you ladies feel we're competing with you,?

You go about calling every woman bae?

Women bring emotion into everything yet we are here discussing men who let their emotions drive them to the point of murder, how ironic.

kaboninc:
The thing with atheist against theist most especially of the Christian faith is they think the teachings about the subject of faith is very exclusive to the Christianity.

That's why Christianity records the highest conversion rate from theist to atheist. When atheist say they don't believe in the existence of a being, they are actually referring to the Christian God.

Faith is just believing something will happen. Something good in your favour. If it does happen, your faith in whatever it is increases and if it doesn't, you loose interest.


Lol. I've never had sex while still in relationship. Have you considered having sex while still in a relationship?

What you have up there is a misguided opinion on atheists, you are the one to tell atheists what they think? Very laughable.
Ask questions if you don't know something jor.

No, faith is not believing something good will happen in one's favour, it is having trust/confidence in a person or thing.


I have not considered having sex outside my relationship, I have had the urge though.

Bolade005:
You obviously haven't read a lot of domestic violence cases cause I read and hear that a lot from victims. Ask around.

You think most of these women would stupidly go into a marriage they know they'd be physically abused? I know some do but they're in the minority.

I didn't say I don't agree with what you said on that being their story, I said I don't agree with most of them claiming ignorance on the man's behaviour prior to marriage.

I actually do, many even believe it's normal to be beaten if they misbehave, many go in thinking he'll change, many think they can work around the attitude, so yes I think many do and they are not in the minority, the minority are those who had no idea the man was violent.

kaboninc:
Bae, men will always be gods to not just women but other men. And I think there's a name for women folks, goddess. But the funny thing is that the gods have always been a god to the goddesses. LOL.

It really is a man's world.

After a woman liberates herself from the men, should aspire to lead the man in every aspect of life. Now imagine a world ruled by a woman? LOL

Rather, women should look for ways of being productive and responsible to themselves.

A god and a goddess are on the same scale, just different genders. Heck some versions of tantra places the goddesses above the gods, so it's all about what you believe.

What is wrong with a world led by women? Women have been leading in various institutions/organisations and have been doing great, so..

Women have been productive since time immemorial, men have just been mostly assh0les because they have physical strength on their side.

Bae? What's that?

kaboninc:
But the let go, we just don't know. But since you don't believe in creation (as told by any faith), what then is your opinion about creation. About the beginning?

LOOOOL. No I haven't had SEX outside my relationship. That't if its really a relationship as I see it.

I don't have to have an opinion on the matter do I? I still am doing my research anyways, I just know however, that what faith teaches is bullsh1t.

You are not really saying anything, but it's aite, I know what to believe.

Bolade005:
What if the man never showed any form of violence during courtship and something later changed the man?. Oftentimes, this is what most victim say, stuffs like he was never like that or something. You can't blame a woman who paid attention, saw nothing and went ahead with marriage and later became a victim now, would ya?

I don't agree with most victims , it is very difficult for a person who was never violent to become tyson all in the blink of an eye, now for the men that did really change, tracing the root of the problem can lead to a solution.

Ofcourse I won't blame such victims but I tell ya, they are as few as can be.