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What is his offence and why has he not been charged to court?

Those are the most important questions.


And bathroom slippers is worn by people, I don't see how this man wearing one is supposed to mean shit

Timbuktou:
1. Relationships are transactionary in nature. Women want security, men want sex. Sex is the currency women trade with to secure the man's currency, resources. This is the general arrangement. The man is also willing to share his resources because he's getting sex, no sex no resources. That's the market, sweety. Aunty, you cannot have a blanket solution for different problems. Let the cause of divorce inspire what the ruling would be.

2. The good thing is if naija follows we already know how to mitigate our disadvantages

Ah, I see.

1. When you say the woman gives sex to get security, I honestly don't know how I'm supposed to respond to that but I'm glad even you know it's more than sex. You believe, cause of divorce and other factors aren't put in place before a ruling? Each case is different, you talk like it's a one size fits all approach.

2.And how is that? Naija men want marriage more than the women sef, if only more women will become wiser and not fall for your lies/deception.

3. *rolls eyes*

Timbuktou:
1. I'm sure thats a joke. I will repeat for the 200th time. Only a woman can make herself unsafe around me. I find it very easy to switch off emotionally when a woman isn't interested in investing in me emotionally. I'm perfectly fine with being Friends With Benefits, or in this case Married With Benefits . I do not bend over backwards for women, not since my 20s. An angel will receive an angel's treatment from me, and I will treat an ogbanje like satan himself.

2. What are we complaining about? We are giving ample warning.

3. But you specifically wrote that I shouldn't compare both as they were dissimilar. In fact, at one point you shook your head at me. . The only reason on earth why alimony should be paid is if the man stopped the woman from working as in the case of a home-making arrangement or he physically incapacitated her such that she can no longer work. If she can work or already works, she better hold on to her job. If she can't afford to care for the kids she should hand them over to their father(s). You say there's a valid reason for alimony payments but millions of men paying would disagree. I asked you to look something up but instead you dismiss it without seeing if it has any merits. I guess you wouldnt want facts getting in the way of your rhetoric.

I might or I might not. And if I do, the lucky woman would be made to understand that I will get up and leave should she represent a bad bargain. No be only women value happiness na.

I wouldn't accept such money. I'm too proud for that. I'd probably point you I the direction of a charity.

We could go back and forth forever to no avail, although I don't understand how divorcing you for cogent reasons is a crime and equates to greed, I guess you expect a woman to continue emotionally investing in you regardless of why she may no longer want to, nice.

Ample warning ko amplifier warming ni.

You and those million men can take your case to court and yes, I don't think what you consider facts on the matter, have any merits, why waste time on it? If you don't see the importance of a woman besides sex, why are we even having this conversation? Abegi

laribari:
o.k................ just mark today

Smh

5 years is even too short a time, especially as she may get out earlier.

Nonsense.

darkenedrebel:
The show is good but vastly overrated...I would place Prison break, 24 and GOT that I don't even really fancy over BB any day...

I don't get this mentality about a boring show equating to a mature show... total büllshït... If the drama is not entertaining, then what's the point? ...same with that wāck Jessica Jones.

..most of them don't even enjoy BB, they just watch it to feel among and to appear cool...#fact...

Lol, I think I agree with you on the feeling among part. For me it was even the interest in chemistry that caught my attention but then, chemistry is already kinda boring, and then you go and make the show boring too?

I will still give it a chance though, if I'm not entertained by the season 3, then it's goodbye.

darkenedrebel:
I hereby sentence you to death on the cross for not getting hooked by Suits

What shows are you seeing then?... name 5...

HTGAWM
Jane the virgin.
Scandal(I'm kinda bored)
Lucifer
Orphan black.
Black-ish
PLL
Modern family
Sex and the city

Is it five yet?

I was hooked o but the hiatus affected my concentration and then. I decided I wanted to wait for it to pile up and here we are, completing seeing suits, is definitely on my list of things to accomplish before I leave this mortal body.

darkenedrebel:
Little brain ke? lol...




Is this oxymoron or antithesis?




Because if we weren't created & there is no god, then why are we on earth? What's the use especially since it's only deciduous and the human lifespan is 120 at most?
What's the purpose?



I also think the Christian story of creation is faux pax. The entire Adam & Eve story is just the Jews version of the creation story , just as the Yorubas & Ibos have their variation.



Of course, except it's more difficult for Atheists especially, & all those who doubt the existence of a supreme being to have a side of spirituality to them.
Spirituality is related to religion after all.



No wahala.

Hahaha, very funny, I see it.


Lol, Agnostic cos I'm not sure of it all and atheist cos I don't believe in a god.


Why are you asking me the purpose? How am I to say for certain? I can only postulate and so far, I think we are here to have fun, be good people and be happy while .

Spirituality isn't related to only religion, there is no specific way to define spirituality, any meaningful(or meaningless, depending individuals and how they choose to see things)activity can be their spirituality.

darkenedrebel:
..in between, freecocoa/sweetcocoa...have you seen Suits?...

Yes I have but I'm not caught up.

Timbuktou:
1. Really? No derision intended. Just trying to help ye wiminz. . Meanwhile, you're the one talking about some women being dumb and desperate for associating with my distinguished self. Anyway...

2. Not generally our style. We favour other methods to arrive at solutions.

3. You have failed to point out the flaws in this comparison. Why can one not compare sex with money? What is so special about sex that you want to ascribe it divine status.

1. Because they are not smart to not be safe, that's just careless.

2. Why una come dey complain na?

3. The flaw is that, I'm not asking you not to compare sex with money, just not with a woman. If you can get the sex from her by not infringing on her rights, then do so. It's not the same with paying alimony cos there's a valid reason for paying alimony, you don't have to agree but it is, what it is.

Kpatakpata, don't get married.

Btw, we just talking like we sure say no be me go dey pay you when we divorce, abegi.

Timbuktou:
1. After divorce, she has all but withdrawn whatever love she may have or may have had. I reserve/should reset the right to withdraw my assets. Whether she loved or didn't love is immaterial post divorce. I no longer care about her love, she shouldn't care about my money.

2. He's an example of somone who has gone the surrogate way. Whether he is happy is another matter entirely and not really the crux of our argument.

3. Not my intention, though I've been told I argue in a condescending manner. However, I'd like to know what you find off-putting about my tone.

1.okay you were buying her love when you people were married and now the love don end, what then are you paying for again, okay I grab. I see that reason for divorce is also not important.


2. No wahala, the good thing is that the law is there and whether you people like it or not, naija will follow.

The condescending tone is what's off putting.

It's like they are mad, what sort of country is this? So because she 's a celeb she should get away with manslaughter? Then they say she didn't show remorse

DUI is a serious offence please, you bunch of illiterates.

Thunder fire them.

Respect.

I'm often in awe.

Timbuktou:
Your mentors made these exact comments and they are now gnashing their teeth in regret.

Men do not generally want to cheat women. And what are scared about? I'm beginning to feel you're just trolling. And if it is true men are losing, rest assured, they will re-evaluate the rules of the game and play to win. And, mark my words, men will win because we are solution seekers.

If there's a law today in the west stopping women from paying, you will not hear a whisper of male protestation. It is even shameful for a man to pursue, talk less of actually collecting. Tufiakwa.

Stop arguing with yourself, old woman. Show me where I said women are just good for sex. If I call you olodo now you go dey vex.

The only thing I hate about you is that you are way too quick to deride someone. Behave yourself o.


What is stopping the men from protesting? They should protest na.

You keep comparing paying alimony to a woman, to sex, taking 'bout why she should get money if the man can't sleep with her after divorce, what's that?

Timbuktou:
I'm far from angry. I'm just stating the obvious. If both genders have sex before marriage, that renders it even less valuable. It is not a valued bargaining chip. It is just like their every other commodity, it's transient in trade.

I have zero respect for the entitled, greedy women. There are women worthy of respect, sadly, they are increasingly in the minority. Consequently, I find it imperative to protect my interests, if marriage proves harmful to me I'd gladly do away with it.

I consider only a woman who gives me her love and loyalty worthy of my sweat. The moment she withdraws these things, i withdraw my goodies. You cannot take from me and give me nothing in return. Fair is fair.

Surrogates sign agreements. They are simply tools and implements. One doesn't need marriage to be happy, that's what you feminists have been screaming. Now we men have seen the light and the taste of freedom is exhilirating. Cristiano Ronaldo seems to be doing just fine.

Per dumbness and desperation. Any woman with any sense of value knows I'm a great catch. Not arrogance, just fact. As I understand my worth, I can make demands that protect my interests. If a woman feels they are too steep, she may leave. I'm sure I can manage another catch rather quickly.

You are funny o, I don't remember saying divorce means, she never loved you.


How convenient of you to site RONALDO, he is the yardstick for measurement of happiness what happiness is .

Your tone is very off putting to say the least.

Timbuktou:
Sweetcocoa, I noticed you didn't counter my claim about western men eschewing marriage with eloquence or facts. You simply dismissed it, and deflected it with the fact that a percentage of men also getvspousal support. That is quite disingenuous and I would advise you to look at that piece of information critically, as well as the phrase I suggested you search. There cannot be equality without justice, fairness and balance.

Perhaps, as a woman you value sex more than property. I would tell you that as a man i value property more than sex.

Lol, I don't see why some men deciding they don't want to marry, should mean sh1t, it's not news that some men will always want to cheat women .. it has always been a a battle of the sexes ever since women decided they don't wanna be cheated no more, the men are loosing and now they are scared.

How is it not balanced with the already known facts? If only women don't pay too, infact women shouldn't pay sef.

I value myself but if you think what I am, is just sex, that's your mistake.

Timbuktou:
Have my cake and eat it? Nah.

What is so special about sex that you aren't giving to only me. The aveatge woman will have 3 or more sexual partners before marriage. There's nothing valuable about the sex she has with the husband who might be partner number 4 to 60. Don't flatter yourselves abeg. The only difference is that exclusivity of the sexùal act is expected, it is not even guaranteed. So, where's th value?

There is nothing fair about mandating a person to pay money to a divorced spouse. The women who pay certainly don't feel good about it. If you have to be forced to pay alimony/palimony, you should be forced to stay married.

Child support should exist in place of spousal support. An ex should not be my problem. Moreover, the parent who has the capacity to care for offspring should have them, except where here was an agreement between the couple for either spouse to shun work. Then the one who sacrificed work and career should rightly be compensated.

Never mind having kids. I'll just go the surrogate way, get maids and you can go make all the money you want. See your mouth like may make you richer. Provide proof that it made me richer na. Olè.

No court marriage for yall abeg.

Lol, Tim please don't burst a vein o, I don't know why you are vexing o, I come in peace.

The way you talk about a woman eh, o mase o, omo mi , the man didn't have partners before marrying her?

Lol @ surrogate, why get married then? I guess the surrogate would raise the babies too, of course she will, dedicate her life to them and just walk away with nothing, when she's done, or maybe you'll raise the kids yourself? What kid needs his mother anyway?

My friend, make I hear word jor, you be a married woman first and then come tell me how my support didn't make you richer? .


Lol, for any girl dumb/desperate enough to marry, especially with this your mentality, me I no won't marry you like this, plus I don't even want to be a woman who gets spousal support in an event of divorce, but I also understand why it's fair to pay it .

laribari:
What do you do? Please i'd like to know and be honest about it. Now that you want to challenge God but i hope you will be honest enough to speak up when you see His hand. In fact, no need because you will come calling after Him shortly when He shall start with you.

First wat do you do? You don't need to add where you work just what you do.

My friend, get real abeg.

What does what I do, have to do with anything? is your God no longer all knowing? He should figure it out.

I don't have time to waste biko, lemme know when he's done embarrassing himself, trying to get me sacked.

Kai Jesus!

Shopping mall o, just shopping mall, not even our own sef.

I bow my head in shame.

If na secondary school classmates, I can see why


But we know all these tactics, you must go to jail, ole.

Timbuktou:
Lol, you be olè. Oya, wipe your mouth.

What's wrong with sèx as an analogy? People have sex with people who aren't their spouses before, during and after marriage. There is nothing sacred or divine about it. You can even get it for 500NGN. . If the law will mandate property sharing, it is only just and fair that the law mandates continued sexùal intercourse between estranged couples. I'm sure most men would feel compensated after being coerced to part with their valuables.

Madam, forget spousal support. After divorce, you're no longer my problem. You can't hate me and love my money and property. I know for a fact that American men are increaingly refusing to marry these days because of such things as spousal support amongst other marital law injustices, google "The Sexodus". The thing wey dey fail for there na hin we wan copy? Africans will not kill persin. It could get to the point where the government forces men to marry because they completely opt out.
Wake up, CocoaButter. You and your sisters should go and work for your money.

if I hear say I be ole, na you wan eat your cake and still have it.

I guess sex is a commodity you pick off a shelf, why won't you compare both? Are we even talking about sex as just an act? It's about the person you will have the sex with. The law is very fair, the person with more money pays. I don't want anything with you, you are only paying because whether you like it or not, being married to you, raising kids and whatnot, can be a factor for you ending up richer so, yea, you have to pay.

Make them no marry na shior, wetin concern me?like men aren't cashing in on spousal support cheques monthly, abegi.

We dey work na, but if you go carry belle, born pikin raise am for us, while I go get all the money, I'll pay you after we divorced.

Timbuktou:
Cocoa butter greed is the only way to qualify it.

Don't try to sneak stuff in, naughty girl. Just as forcing a woman to sleep with her husband is unjust, so is a man forced to provide for his wife. You could ask that those are spousal responsibilities, but applying force is evil. Any spouse who cannot bear to suffer neglect, financial or sexùal is at liberty to leave.

Secondly, you are only one in marriage not after a divorce. Unless youre implying that a man can come and be demanding sex from his estranged/divorced wife. . Once they split, that shoule be that. If the man wants to still take financial care of an ex-wife good for him.

What considerations do you speak of?

It's not greed Tim.

Quit with sex analogy jor, how does the two fit? You can get sex elsewhere during marriag / after dissolve, is it same for marriage?

You do have to ask why spousal support is paid in the first instance, so many things happen and could've have happened in a married person's life. The person may have become better off, if they didn't marry you, supporting and helping you all those years.

So my dear, if you have more money than her, you have to pay.

You people will not kee somebody, are those the underwears?

The president of that court must be mad, dissolve the marriage and he is talking nonsense.

Timbuktou:
Oh, please. Spare me the sentimentality. The the fruits of my labour are definitely more important than sex that you can get from practically anybody. Ask any man in this worldbthey would tell you that. You have no right to my body and property as I hav no right to yours except that which I choose to share.

Whatever they may acquire together should be shared together, otherwise it's theft and rápe. Lord have mercy. Greedy, covetous women everywhere.

Smfh.

Lol, wetin dey work you? Eh Timbuktou my first love?
I thought in marriage we are one, so money is a demarcation?

Seriously though, I'm all for give me, if you want to and definitely treat me the way you want to be treated, so it's not about greed or whatever, there are factors to be considered.

O

Timbuktou:
See your greedy throat. Why should the law mandate a man to share his estate with his wife? That is not equality that is slavery, theft and coercion. That is an oppressive law. Would you be glad to forced to share your hard-earned assets and resources with someone else? How is that different from the law forcing a woman to sleep with a husband she doesnt want to sleep with, which you were jumping about in this forum screaming marital rápe. That bill is a recommendation for property and financial rápe. No means no. If I say i no share my property with my wife she should respect it and get her own or leave and go marry someone more inclined to fulfilling her desires.

Smh, you are comparing sex to properties they may have acquired together?

laribari:
I will pray (because He speaks with me) and ask him to revoke His grace from you life for 2 Months and let's see what will happen.

If you agree, we can ask Him to put His hand on your Job to prove He is Alive. Let's see your fate at the end of 2 months.

Agreed?

2 months is too long a time, I was going to suggest a few minutes, seeing as I know that he can't do squat (cos he's not there), but I'll just give him till Monday instead, maybe you can try on his behalf.

Timbuktou:
Dey go na. Na as you take go you go take run come back. Na for house chair dey wait for yansh.

Why dem no go troway rubbish? Who equality bill done help? Misogyny doesn't mean what you think it means. How can you call someone protecting themselves a misogynist? You gan you be misandrist. Tell me what that bill proposes that isn't already in the Nigerian constitution, apart from eyeing other people's properties.

of hear say I come back, thanks gods for the Internet, my papa sef don sabi facetime.

You mean am? Please told me more, what does misogyny mean?

How is wanting to have a share in the estate with your hubby, eyeing of other people's properties?

Wait make I read that bill again.

Timbuktou:
My balls are too sexy to burst, plus i'm an angel. Everywhere i go I'm loved and cherished. Don't hate the player, hate the game.

Yimu.

But seriously though, why won't Jude separate business from blood?

I understand that as Africans(especially igbos) your older siblings are accorded a whole lot of respect, due and undue but mehn! Some things are just beyond some baseless emotions.

Most times, when my elder sister tries to pull that crap of "odi ka e chefugo na'm tolu gi" I be like "enyi calm down, no be matter of seniority" sometimes she just laughs and calls me a mad woman, other times, she carries face and I just try to bend for her.

Cases like the one with p-square is not a one I will support continual bending biko.

Timbuktou:
Well, I'm now #TeamForeignBabes. God has smiled on me. Sweetcocoa ntorr

Duh! Dey go na, I will only keep remembering you in my prayers, hoping that the babe(s) don't have an episode, bursting your balls with a gun.

Double post.

Timbuktou:
SweetCocoa butter . I been think say dem done deport you go Somalia.

I still dey this una yeye country o but I go soon go Panya, sha.

You better repent from your old ways, so that we will spare you, women are taking over.


You see as them throwaway our h-equality bill? Fecking misogynists.