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@Tom28; « #382 on: Yesterday at 07:09:46 PM »
[Quote]The world will end by the USA nuking the middle east and not by God pulling the plugs[/Quote]maybe you should encourage them. i thought that they will bomb Makka since a congressman, a military general and a cabinet member, all of whom are from the christian right in the last bush administration thought that city is like a big target. go to the Quran and read Surah 'The Elephant'. you will see the end of those who dare to attack Makka. the Illah before the pagan Makka, was the Illah during the pagan Makka and He is the Illah of Islamic Makka. He, Allah is the Owner of Power and will defeat all forces, bar none.


@sley4life (m) « #383 on: Yesterday at 07:54:47 PM »
[Quote]lets kp our fingers crossed[/Quote]i thought the gaffe about the end of time is based on the cross? you may be loosing the battle each time you implore the cross in matters of spirituality of the service of the True Cross,

@t.truth; the below is for you. watch this.

http://www.thedeenshow.com/show.php?action=detail&id=872




and read the below piece, too. all i did about palestine was to simply ask if Goliath was an ancestor of today's Palestinians. Tons of material came
tumbling down. i was actually linking the old philistine to today's palestine. and my love for nigeria is personal. i do not have to discuss it with you.


Debunking Joe Farah's Jewish Fables www.rense.com/general91/debun.htm - Cached - Block all www.rense.com results
By Rev. Ted Pike
7-12-10


The Bible warns Christians to ignore "Jewish fables." (Titus 1:14) In 1948 Israel violently drove half of the Arab population from Palestine, stealing land on which they had lived and farmed for thousands of years. To distract the world from this outrage, Israel created an elaborate tapestry of fables deluding generations of evangelicals and much of the world. . . . . .

@t,truth; let me overwhelm you with the real Truth, and not the make belief you identify your person by. so, study the below and learn to speak the truth. i know it is difficult for you. but we still need to let you know that you are avoiding the truth. the truth has came to you in islam, your falsehood is bound to have no deep root.


9:7 How can there be for the polytheists a treaty in the sight of Allah and with His Messenger, except for those with whom you made a treaty at al-Masjid al-Haram? So as long as they are upright toward you, be upright toward them. Indeed, Allah loves the righteous [who fear Him].

9:8 How [can there be a treaty] while, if they gain dominance over you, they do not observe concerning you any pact of kinship or covenant of protection? They satisfy you with their mouths, but their hearts refuse [compliance], and most of them are defiantly disobedient.

9:9 They have exchanged the signs of Allah for a small price and averted [people] from His way. Indeed, it was evil that they were doing.

9:10 They do not observe toward a believer any pact of kinship or covenant of protection. And it is they who are the transgressors.

9:11 But if they repent, establish prayer, and give zakah, then they are your brothers in religion; and We detail the verses for a people who know.

9:12 And if they break their oaths after their treaty and defame your religion, then fight the leaders of disbelief, for indeed, there are no oaths [sacred] to them; [fight them that] they might cease.

9:13 Would you not fight a people who broke their oaths and determined to expel the Messenger, and they had begun [the attack upon] you the first time? Do you fear them? But Allah has more right that you should fear Him, if you are [truly] believers.

9:14 Fight them; Allah will punish them by your hands and will disgrace them and give you victory over them and satisfy the breasts of a believing people

9:15 And remove the fury in the believers' hearts. And Allah turns in forgiveness to whom He wills; and Allah is Knowing and Wise.

9:16 Do you think that you will be left [as you are] while Allah has not yet made evident those among you who strive [for His cause] and do not take other than Allah , His Messenger and the believers as intimates? And Allah is Acquainted with what you do.

9:17 It is not for the polytheists to maintain the mosques of Allah [while] witnessing against themselves with disbelief. [For] those, their deeds have become worthless, and in the Fire they will abide eternally.

9:18 The mosques of Allah are only to be maintained by those who believe in Allah and the Last Day and establish prayer and give zakah and do not fear except Allah , for it is expected that those will be of the [rightly] guided.

9:19 Have you made the providing of water for the pilgrim and the maintenance of al-Masjid al-Haram equal to [the deeds of] one who believes in Allah and the Last Day and strives in the cause of Allah ? They are not equal in the sight of Allah . And Allah does not guide the wrongdoing people.

9:20 The ones who have believed, emigrated and striven in the cause of Allah with their wealth and their lives are greater in rank in the sight of Allah . And it is those who are the attainers [of success].

9:21 Their Lord gives them good tidings of mercy from Him and approval and of gardens for them wherein is enduring pleasure.

9:22 [They will be] abiding therein forever. Indeed, Allah has with Him a great reward.

^^^^^^^^^^ I will answer your many questions by providing 'help' to you to make your own research. you could have simply asked in your search engine if the remnant of the philistine of the past is today's palestinians. maybe you thought the biblical God killed them without any of them remaining?


Friday, December 31, 2010
Palestinians VS. Philistines speedymedia..com/2010/12/palestinians-vs-philistines.html - Cached -
The Philistines:

It is from the term "Philistines" that the name "Palestinians" has been taken. Actually, the ancient Philistines and modern Palestinians have something in common: both are invaders from other lands! That is precisely the meaning of their name, that is not an ethnic denomination but an adjective applied to them: Peleshet, from the verb "pelesh", "dividers", "penetrators" or "invaders". The Philistines were a confederation of non-Semitic peoples coming from Crete, the Aegean Islands and Asia Minor, also known as "Sea Peoples". The main tribes were Tzekelesh, Shardana, Akhaiusha, Danauna, Tzakara, Masa or Meshwesh, Lukki, Dardana, Tursha, Keshesh or Karkisha, Labu and Irven.

The original homeland of the group that ruled the Philistine federation, namely the "Pelesati", was the island of Crete. When the Minoic civilization collapsed, also the Minoic culture disappeared from Crete, as invaders from Greece took control of the island. . . .




Origin of name en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Palestine - Cached - Similar - Block all en.wikipedia.org results

Further information: Definitions of Palestine and Palestinian and Timeline of the name Palestine

The name "Palestine" is the cognate of an ancient word meaning "Philistines" or "Land of the Philistines".[7][8]

The earliest known mention is thought to be in Ancient Egyptian texts of the temple at Medinet Habu which record a people called the P-r-s-t (conventionally Peleset) among the Sea Peoples who invaded Egypt in Ramesses III's reign.[9] The Hebrew name Peleshet (פלשת Pəléshseth)- usually translated as Philistia in English, is used in the Bible to denote the southern coastal region that was inhabited by the Philistines to the west of the ancient Kingdom of Judah.[10]. . . . .


During the lifetime of the messenger, the territory that is known as palestine today by almost all people and part of it is known as israel by just as many people was mentioned in the Quran by a piece of land in a town/city of jerusalem. that piece of land then was a ruin and today there is a mosque with the exact name this place was mentioned many years before. the mosque is called AQSA. you must have heard of it before, or you should research it out. just like your misunderstanding of verse 5 of chapter 9 of the Quran, i am sure you will pick the misunderstood writing on Aqsa,just as well.

was nigeria, a known country in africa today in existence 500 years ago? please apply yourself and go back to your questions and relate them to nigeria. well. if you wish choose a tribe and apply the same questionnaire to it, but a time merely 1000 years after the great flood of noah. which came first; ethiopia or nigeria, yet is the younger of the two not to be recognized?


verse 5 of chapter 9 is part of a collection of verses telling a people what to do at a particular time then, for a particular reason. if the same reason is to occur in the future and at the time, it will be applicable, unlike your 'give the second cheek' which you have turned to 'pre emptive strike'. at least bush turn it to that. below is reading in the context which it occurs; while you read the below, pay attention to the bold.

go your old testament and new testament and see if you will see anything similar in guidance that the heart can absorb, unlike your 'buy swords' which you claim it is not for defense in the new testament, just as the ' bring them before me and slay them; Luke, 19, 27' in the same new testament which you will say is no potential for violence.

it is about a king you will say. i already know that. so there were circumstances where Jesus is considered as a potential King of Jews. See for instance Matthew 2, 2, Matthew, 21, 4-5, Mark 15, 2, John, 19, 12, John, 19, 19, Acts, 1, 6. then defend this here from your bible while you study the verses of the Quran, below. [Are there circumstances where Jesus preaches violence ? Yes. Matthew, 10, 34, Luke, 22, 36.]


9:1 [This is a declaration of] disassociation, from Allah and His Messenger, to those with whom you had made a treaty among the polytheists.

9:2 So travel freely, [O disbelievers], throughout the land [during] four months [/b]but know that you cannot cause failure to Allah and that Allah will disgrace the disbelievers.

9:3 And [it is] an announcement from Allah and His Messenger to the people on the day of the greater pilgrimage that Allah is disassociated from the disbelievers, and [so is] His Messenger. [b]So if you repent, that is best for you; but if you turn away - then know that you will not cause failure to Allah . And give tidings to those who disbelieve of a painful punishment.

9:4[b] Excepted are those with whom you made a treaty among the polytheists and then they have not been deficient toward you in anything or supported anyone against you; so complete for them their treaty until their term [has ended][/b]. Indeed, Allah loves the righteous [who fear Him].

9:5 And when the sacred months have passed, then kill the polytheists wherever you find them and capture them and besiege them and sit in wait for them at every place of ambush. But if they should repent, establish prayer, and give zakah, let them [go] on their way. Indeed, Allah is Forgiving and Merciful.

9:6 And if any one of the polytheists seeks your protection, then grant him protection so that he may hear the words of Allah . Then deliver him to his place of safety. That is because they are a people who do not know.

@Congoshine; « #197 on: Today at 05:32:26 PM »
[Quote]Quote from: azharuddin on Today at 02:44:56 PM
For not obeying Him. Especially for not accepting His oneness.
Our Creator is extremely superior over us. One should accept his Oneness and Obey his commands. But even if we accept his Oneness we should refrain from disobeying him. But Allah forgives if we repent sincerely out of guilt, out of the love of our Creator. Sometimes even without repentance Allah might forgive because his Mercy is vast. The only thing that Allah does not forgive without repentance is Shirk(associating partners with him). But once one stops it and repents sincerely Allah will forgive, because He looks directly into our hearts and will know if we are sincere or not.

The Creator is so Merciful that He gives sustenance even to the ones who disobey Him. We all die. But we will be resurrected and congregated for Questioning on the Day of Judgment. It is to pass this Judgment that one should strive to obey The Creator.
I was created and programmed by Allah this way my dear ? And this will be made clear to Allah on judgement day Cheesy Cheesy

What is the point ? Undecided

If Allah wants me not to believe anything else,he would have created me that way. Smiley

Now he creates me to think whatever I like & then will punish me for doing this . . . I don't get ? Huh Huh Huh[/Quote]What will be made even clearer more than your own 'clear' in the bold, on the day of congregation [judgment day] is the fact that you heard the messages of guidance at least from the muslims on nairaland, but you chose to reject it because of your own hard heart or influences that kept you in haughtiness. you had the freedom to choose goodness as in obedience to God or rejection of guidance as in evil and blatant disobedience. you and i have the chance of repentance and seeking forgiveness. neither you nor i or anyone can frustrate God. if you do what you want, it will not frustrate God. imagine if you cut classes and refuse to study, yet without sitting for any test expect to be graduated? can you do that in any university and still expect a diploma from it? will you have the right to argue with the university president that they must award you a ph. d.?

on the day that you think you are already prepared to challenge your God, your mouth will be sealed up and other parts will talk, revealing what you did with them, which God is aware of even before it. congoshine, you have no excuse. no one of us is without sin. we all seek the Mercy of the Merciful. Forgiveness of the Forgiving.

@frosbel; « #2 on: Today at 11:14:26 AM »
[Quote]^^

If you read my articles on the rapture, you will understand my point of view.

however my word for you today is repent or perish in your sins. For God so loves you that he gave his one and only begotten son that you will not perish but come to life everlasting.[/Quote]i am ready to perish in my sins than to take a human being like myself in every right of the word as God. he begged and prayed to God, i beg and pray to God. he never laid eyes on his God, i never lay eyes on my God. he said his God is greater than all, i say my God is greater than all. show me the wife of God that bore Him a 'begotten son', because even Adam's wife has a name, Eve.



[Quote]Muslims have a diabolically wrong understanding of GOD, thinking they can please God in their flesh by outward works , dead works for want of a better word. washing your hands and feet, dishing out alms , fighting Jihads will not earn you God's approval.[/Quote]obedience to God is what muslims practice. imagine when Yahweh told little god you must die so that frosbel can live. though little god is begotten son while frosbel is not. if little god had refused to die what do you think will happen to him because that will be disobedience? yet it is obedience that you say of him that endears him to Yahweh, while disobedience what what got Lucifer to be rejected. i say all of this because it is what you believe, and it is from your book.


obedience as simple as washing is what we in islam are given to perform before our prescribed prayers. jesus also washed just like the muslims and bowed and prostrated just like the muslims. if you will not imitate jesus, are you truly following him?

if you can't even imitate him in simple matters, how can you in complex issues as in allowing somebody to slap you in both cheeks, giving him even the cloth that you wear and you remaining naked in the frosty winter of england, and yes allowing yourself to be persecuted o the point of being hung? Alhamdulillah. we are not to allow anyone to oppress or humiliate us. islam is mercy on me while my commands are simple both in outward like in the washing which you hate and inward sincere repentance which you think is simple because there is no blood to be shed. this is the luxury for the slaves of God, while your God saddles you up with unbearable guilt of original sin that you did not commit, killing His son for you, while He could have killed Himself or merely forgive you without killing anyone who may not want to volunteer for the mission.

in all of these, it is not clear that you will make heaven, because Jesus may reject you. and he jesus the prophet wanted you to do work of righteousness based on his message, the exact same work as n obedience that you are rejecting here as being too simple. if you are not a confused man, i dont know what you are. definitely, you are not appreciative of gesture of God's Mercy. i as a muslim appreciate the mercy offered to me.

what went wrong is that you were not caught up in the rapture that just pass. so you are exposed as a fake christian.

olaadegbu must have been raptured. good bye true christians. we who remain behind are heathens and disbelievers; infidel muslims and others and the rest are fake christians. shame on the fake christians. you and alethia, and nuclearboy, etc are truly christians, got caught up.

like today when all of us the infidel muslims and all the other unbelievers and the fake christians are left behind after the rapture of yesterday to now face the tribulations.

i hear you frosbel. so you are one of the fakes, ehn? i couldn't have guessed if the rapture didn't happen yesterday.

when all fail, like the rapture of yesterday, conjure up another game from the bag of tricks.

if you weren't raptured yesterday, know that was a truth serum about you being a snake oil salesman of a christian. a fake christian.

jo, you are still here? people got caught up in the rapture yesterday.

what remains are infidel muslims as the book of timothy puts it, other unbelievers and fake christians.

so you are one of them fakes, uh?

you are still peddling your fake concepts all over the places.

now that the rapture is a bust, or you are a fake christian, you latch on to another trick in the bag. i am a muslim infidel, what are you but a fake christian who was not raptured.


you should have been caught up,yesterday. man.

whosoever among the christians that will post after the big rapture tat took place yesterday is by remaining on earth has been exposed as an all out fake christians.

every true christian left the earth yesterday; caught up with the saints.

i see from now on end; fake chrstians and the rest of us as the book of timothy puts it, infidels.

i thought the new christian aka Alhaja and the always christian orikinla and even martian who may have been from somewhere by his username are all out this world by now; caught up in the rapture with all the saints?

if any of you will read this post, still on earth, know that you are a punk out fake christian,because yesterday, all the real christians got caught up in the rapture.

what was left are infidels like me being an unbeliever in the book of timothy.


if i ever read from you again, i already know that you are a fake christian who does not love Jesus.

I thought you were raptured? the real christians were raptured, caught-up in the sky with all the saints. no one remained except us infidels, heathens, unbelievers and all out fake christians.


oh. you must be one of them fake christians then, because the rapture was yesterday.

christians need to make up their minds about this 'holy ghost'.

they say the ghost is junior in power to jesus. but it is the same holy ghost that you said raised jesus up, because,

apparently, jesus as a corpse cold not raise himself up.

a weak thing raising a strong thing up. which one is strong thereby disregarding the label

dubiously assigned to each?

reality is that the one who does the raising is stronger, just like the God that commands another G'g'od to run an errant is

the real God and not the errant boy.

^^^^^ [Quote] Re: Alhaja's Testimony
« #11 on: Yesterday at 09:34:23 PM »

Quote from: Sweetnecta on Yesterday at 08:21:51 PM
@Godson2009; responding to you is similar to responding to the wall because it lacks all the facilities of reasoning. i just wonder if nigerian christians even know that igbo tribe has home grown and abroad convert muslims, today? you surprise me with your post as if you don't see muslim millionaires and successes in uk that you say you live. Allah answered all my prayers so far as he Willed. i am confident that He will by His Mercy and Loving attributes as He Will shall answer my future prayers. i am sure dangote does not pray to the christian God, but to the muslim God, Allah The Irresistible. I said the next billionaire in nigeria will be a muslim, too, who only prays to [again] Allah. i tire for your 'unaware' post, thinking that you are responding.
this was my own personal opinion based on what i have seen and experienced,i do not believe your allah answers prayers nor tha fact that he has anything to offer.true dangote doesnt pray to a christian GOD maybe that is why he practises the sort of unwholesome cut throat business practises.allah is irresistle really i agree with you, iresistibly fake and confusing[/Quote]To the bold, Islam extends beyond the border of Nigeria, duh. And all the wealthy arabs and south east asian [majority muslims] who are billionaires and millionaires also practice cut throat business practises. you are a major disappointment in your style of reasoning.


uk that you hide yourself in practice voodoo economics [ala pres. reagan] by frustrating you, arm wringing you until you give up and the are the winner. my discussant, you have no honor in my eyes because you hide the truth. i can give you many christians whose business practises frustrate people; their partners and customers. did you ever heard of Enron or the mortgage burst or bubble of 2008, or the silverado savings and loan viasco of 1990? each of these disasters were on the heads of wealthy christians allowing the poor masses to bear the grunt. your personal opinion is far from truth. i can't deal with a person like you with head in the sand and pants on the floor. . .



[Quote]Quote from: Sweetnecta on Yesterday at 08:21:51 PM
to the first bold, the answer is no.

yes he did,
Quran (8:12) - "I will cast terror into the hearts of those who disbelieve. Therefore strike off their heads and strike off every fingertip of them, amongst many other medinan verses and ahadiths which i wont bore you with your bredren olabowale and co(that is if this isnt olabowale or abuzola) will tell you i know what im saying ask them or check my old comments on the islam forum[/Quote]while the names you mentioned means nothing to me except that the are muslims who had confronted you before, here is the contextual section of 8;12, which you dubiously quoted as if it tells any story, in isolation except that it an action that will occur in a broad manner on a particular day and time, then and if the situation arises today, i ask Allah to put that part of the Quran to action for indeed my Lord Allah You never break Your Promise.


verses 5 through 13 below, were speaking about the Quraishi pagans who before used to terrorize and humiliate the muslims for all the 13 years in Makka so much so that 2 minor hijra were made to Ethiopia and the messenger himself [as] had to leave Makka for Madina where he lived out his life. The Battle of Badr occurred 2 years after this migration to Madina.

let me humor you for a moment. in 1990, iron mike tyson was going to fight a bloated unknown fred douglas in tokyo. before then tyson's menacing look was terror in eye of each of his opponent including the level headed mike spinks who he knocked out in the very few seconds that people felt that spinks threw the fight. i remember mike was a crowd drawer in tokyo so much so that he was showing how fast his arms were by bare handedly catching pigeons. he thought he was invincible.


someone must have psych douglas up so much so that he knocked out tyson to the surprise of the whole boxing world. in las vegas of 1997, history repeated itself on tyson in the hands of evander holyfield, so much so in frustration that tyson bit off part of the ear of holyfield. the one time terror was even terrorized in the hands of the two unclassed opponents. this is divine providence.


in the case of the muslims of Madina against the pagans of Makka, Allah psyched the Muslims up and put fear in the hearts of the Makka pagans. at the end, islam entered Makka, again without any single arrow thrown. now enjoy verses 5 through 14 and see the truth you were hiding;

8:5 [It is] just as when your Lord brought you out of your home [for the battle of Badr] in truth, while indeed, a party among the believers were unwilling,

8:6 Arguing with you concerning the truth after it had become clear, as if they were being driven toward death while they were looking on.

8:7 [Remember, O believers], when Allah promised you one of the two groups - that it would be yours - and you wished that the unarmed one would be yours. But Allah intended to establish the truth by His words and to eliminate the disbelievers

8:8 That He should establish the truth and abolish falsehood, even if the criminals disliked it.

8:9 [Remember] when you asked help of your Lord, and He answered you, "Indeed, I will reinforce you with a thousand from the angels, following one another."

8:10 And Allah made it not but good tidings and so that your hearts would be assured thereby. And victory is not but from Allah . Indeed, Allah is Exalted in Might and Wise.

8:11 [Remember] when He overwhelmed you with drowsiness [giving] security from Him and sent down upon you from the sky, rain by which to purify you and remove from you the evil [suggestions] of Satan and to make steadfast your hearts and plant firmly thereby your feet.

8:12 [Remember] when your Lord inspired to the angels, "I am with you, so strengthen those who have believed. I will cast terror into the hearts of those who disbelieved, so strike [them] upon the necks and strike from them every fingertip."

8:13 That is[b] because they opposed Allah and His Messenger. And whoever opposes Allah and His Messenger - indeed, Allah is severe in penalty[/b].

godson2009, must read the whole verses and pay attention to the bold wherein you must learn Allah answered the requests and supply the means and supports to achievements. see how satan was humiliated by mere rainfall in the desert whereby no one of the muslims will have to take janabah bath, since the rain was a means of cleansing for them, and to the disbelievers on that day in Badr was hitting them hard becoming a burden on them, a means of punishment so that they could be humilated by the 'really few and the proud' companions and their messenger commander.



[Quote]Quote from: Sweetnecta on Yesterday at 08:21:51 PM
to the second bold you forgot that your mog nickel and dime everyone in their churches, poor or wealthy without any exception. you call it tithes. we dont have such a 'mint' in islam. dangote bought his aircraft with monies from his business. oyedepo bought his from donation of the church members. these are the differences.
you are right the only thing you have in islam are imams and islamic religious teachers who set up madrasas and quranic schools[b] to indoctrinate and brainwash poor illeterate children and then unleash them to kill maim and destroy or to beg for food in bauchi,katsina even gambia.[/b] at least oyedepo didnt command his followers to retaliate by burning mosques[/Quote]oyedepo didnt, but below is what Jesus did;

But those mine enemies, which would not that I should reign over them, bring hither, and slay them before me. (Luke, 19, 27).

So what ? This is the end of a parable, a story fabricated for teaching.

But is it that simple ? Some questions.

1) Are there any circumstances where Jesus is considered as a potential King of Jews ?
Yes, plenty. See for instance Matthew 2, 2, Matthew, 21, 4-5, Mark 15, 2, John, 19, 12, John, 19, 19, Acts, 1, 6.

2) Are there circumstances where Jesus preaches violence ?
Yes. Matthew, 10, 34, Luke, 22, 36.

@Godson2009; [Quote]@sweetcena
dont worry we are both in agreement on that first line of your comment,i dont serve the allah that commanded his prophet to kill and behead anyone that was not muslim.
no sire i have not seen any evidence that allah answers prayers,so have many ,muslims in nigeria including alhaja hence their reason for converting and trying the christian GOD.[/Quote]responding to you is similar to responding to the wall because it lacks all the facilities of reasoning. i just wonder if nigerian christians even know that igbo tribe has home grown and abroad convert muslims, today? you surprise me with your post as if you don't see muslim millionaires and successes in uk that you say you live. Allah answered all my prayers so far as he Willed. i am confident that He will by His Mercy and Loving attributes as He Will shall answer my future prayers. i am sure dangote does not pray to the christian God, but to the muslim God, Allah The Irresistible. I said the next billionaire in nigeria will be a muslim, too, who only prays to [again] Allah. i tire for your 'unaware' post, thinking that you are responding.



[Quote]true and several people as well which includes the most powerful man in the world barrack obama all believe in GOD.
so you are now so desperate for companionship you are holding brief for the jews??/ ;Ddidnt your mohammad tell you to behead them and cut off their thumbs?[/b]besides they hate your guts and are closer to christians looking at their ideology than idol worshipping muslims.
how many have muslims built?at least you see the threads dedicated to [b]nigerian men of GOD buying several private jets and even borrowing foreign university money what have your own muslims done[/Quote]to the first bold, the answer is no. to the second bold you forgot that your mog nickel and dime everyone in their churches, poor or wealthy without any exception. you call it tithes. we dont have such a 'mint' in islam. dangote bought his aircraft with monies from his business. oyedepo bought his from donation of the church members. these are the differences.

orikinla, please dont forget to seller the rapture, too, since it is on the pages of the bible.

she and you may be able to catch the event, today, still.


let her go far away from islam.

dont forget the rapture, too.

^^^^^^^^^ brethren, stop fighting. you may just miss the rapture while concentrating on the rapture that is any minute now, today.

the people who pegged the rapture day for today will not be happy if you great christians get left out with people like who is an infidel, muslim.

^^^^^ whats wrong with in the free will that you are given allows you to know the truth and to know the evil?

the choice is yours as your choice destination of paradise or hell is.

simple example that you maybe able to relate to; your teacher provides a written material for you which he gave you a lecture in.


he says that you can pass the quiz and get rewarded by going to higher class. if you fail you actually be punished by demoting you to a lower class and no one will repeat the class and no one will remain in the class of the level you are tested.

paradise is the promotion, hell is the demotion, while earth is the classroom and the test is the book of guidance.


if you fail because of your own free will to not study, who is at fault; your teacher, your classmate who study and pass and get promoted, the classroom, or you who didn't care to listen to any truth and instruct there failed terribly?

@orikinla; So land owners don't go broke or have financial problems?
[Quote]Your naivety is incredible!

LET GOD BE THE JUDGE.

Have a lovely weekend.

PS:

If you are in Lagos or know anyone in Lagos, contact me via publisher@nigeriansreport.com so that I can give you my office address and you can come and meet with her to verify the lie as you concluded or the truth that shames the devil.[/Quote]land owners can run into financial difficulties. but to stoop so low to confide with a tenant who had described her as an already land owner when the tenant was a youth/young boy is incredulous. Should a muslim woman choose a young non muslim male to confide in, as you said she sat very close to you, over her husband, male relatives? the answer is no. does she not go against islam in what she did, which was my reason for saying she was not a good muslim or it is you who is joking.

i may just take you up on it if i am available this summer or ask a muslim to meet you. 'my story' now; some people have brought pastors on the phone to me wanting to pray. each time i have said no because i am not from their belief, and they are not from mine. if i want to pray for a christian about the difficulty she or he is having, i will do it on my own. if i offered Quran and it is accepted from me and success came from it, she/he has left christianity from the moment the Quran was accepted. this will be the case with the Alhaja the reason that i said she was a lip deep muslim. incidentally, you did not tell us that she had became a billionaire which will actually proof that your God has helped her. her resolve financially may just be coincidental or her heart was not in islam in the first place the reason she was turned to her 'devil' who have encouraged her to accept your bible suggestion.



@GODSON2009 (m) « #3 on: Yesterday at 08:45:10 PM »
[Quote]i tire o ,so being a landlady anytime she is broke she will go and extort her tenants after they have paid the agreed rent!![/Quote]i wonder if you actually expect a landlady to be broke all the time then or you deem it impossible that the tenants can be asked if my suggested arrangement is not a better way out than going out reading a psalm or baggita expecting money to fall from the sky? up to this point there ws no explanation on how she resolved her finances. i bet somebody owed and paid or she did good business or she borrowed which each of them is a plausible resolve in the works before the encounter with orikinla.



[Quote]@sweetcena
are you angry because GOD answered the woman's prayers or because her prayers were answered via a christian?being an alhaja she would have tried your hadiths and it didnt work for her before giving the christian way a trial and it worked to the extent of her giving the man some money to say thank you.i though you muslims always said we all serve one GOD so why r you jealouse of the slhaja's salvation lol[/Quote]i am not angry at her decision. she wants hell, she gets it. no muslim will tell you that he and christian serve the same God, since yours is the trinity. remember? Allah is the Only One Who answers prayers, both of devoted believers and disbelievers. many of the wealthiest people on earth today do not believe in God. Ted Turner who started CNN with junk bond deal, bill gates, oprah winfried are just a few of the list. the jews and muslims who will not touch your Bible have plenty billionaires, so are the hindus where one of them build a family house costing at least 1 billion usd. please don't make me laugh.



@ode remo (m) « #4 on: Yesterday at 09:39:34 PM »
[Quote]i know that
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many are not ashamed to lie, if they have to present an verifiable statement about their religion while they are showing hatred for another/other religion[s].
@sweetcena, thank you very much for your one sided view, assumeably the guy cooked up the story . as he had now volunteer his add. 4 verification wont it be nice to investigate further to get to the truth.
now lets fast fwd, will the situation hurt you more after finding out its actually the truth. i.e a xtian GOD empowering a MUSLIMA. isn't that possible.? just think about it.[/Quote]it is not my obsession in anyway about a person finding 'wealth' which you now say is 'salvation', assuming she left islam. i have seen plenty of people leaving islam among the yorubas and others, while the opposite is a greater traffic into islam. most muslim billionaires and millionaires [considering the reality that the only nigerian billionaire today is a muslim and the next one in the making now are muslims] will not read the bible while Quran is the means of healing and solution to their problems.



@Orikinla (m)« #6 on: Today at 09:23:38 AM »
[Quote]Countless Muslims have been healed and saved by Jesus Christ directly without even a preacher.

Alhaja's testimony cannot even be compared to that of Gulshan Esther who saw JESUS CHRIST and he healed her!

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gulshan esther - Ask.com Search[/Quote]And they saw satan thinking that they saw Jesus.
Look. if description of me is good enough for you to say without a doubt in your mind that you can identify me in your dream, then you are more gullible that last gullible person i met. if i describe myself to you, it will fit my physical profile. Even if you heard me telling you about myself, i will not be accurate in conveying my person to you. you have to see me physically to know me.

satan based on his vow to God, impersonating all creations, prophets included, jesus being a prophet, except prophet Muhammad [as to each of the prophets of God] is possible and he uses it to lead them astray. those with weak iman will accept their satan coming to them as a holy person actually steering them away to disbelief, the case of the pakistani that you present above is an example, while you have acted as the satan of the alhaja by suggesting the bible passages. neither of them was forced, but a mere suggestion was enough.

the opposite case of this is when a scholar with firm iman slept and encountered satan who told him to worship him. the muslim scholar quipped 'are you The God Almighty Who is the Owner of All Honors [words to the effect of Allah being the Almighty with comparison]?' satan did not answer. he made his suggestion, again. the muslim scholar repeated his questions as to know if he was Allah The Almighty. satan did not answer because knows that the only claim he cant make is to say that he is Allah, and he cant take the form of Muhammad the reason that whoever saw Muhammad in a dream has actually saw him. this suggestion and questioning went on until satan was tired, defeated and left the muslim's dream.

how is it possible that 'all' eyes will see him, when we know that the sight of man has a limit so much so that it can but see so far in distance in addition to the fact that the earth is not flat and plain?

@t.truth; « #32 on: February 16, 2010, 12:23 PM »
[Quote]Quote from: ronkeenuf on February 16, 2010, 11:32 AM
like the Bible has been reviewed over and over till it the 'current stage' abi. Thanks but no thanks, we will stick to God' words as it is, accept it or leave it. The Quran has no violent content, it only depends on how you interpret it. If you continue to interpret it like you have 'misinterpreted' Abuzola, you continue arriving at the wrong conclusion.

Who says the Quran is God's words?HuhHuhHuhHuhHuhHuhHuhHuh??.

Satan was able to fool Muhammed and cast his words into muhammed's tongue. Muhammed was not able to discern when satan was casting his words into his mouth because he was never a prophet.

So your Quran are bunch of satanic verses. [/Quote]You think the mere saying the above by you and your type is enough to make us take a step back from Islam? That can't happen. You made accusation, and to be taken as a serious critic, you need to provide evidence from the Quran against the Quran, the same way that we provide evidences from the Bible against the Bible. The burden of proof is on the accuser. When muslims say the christians are polytheists, we provide evidences from the Bible including your unexplainable Trinity Theory and we can point to the statures which the cross on your neck, with or without a hung man on it and the paintings even the stained glass of the windows in your churches. Please do the same against Quran, Islam and Muslims as speak about satan affecting it.

For me, there is no evidence that will ever come from you because is cheaper than cheap. There is no religious group that curses and says words of humiliation, rejection on satan than muslims. Muhammad [AS] started his prophethood in islam and from the very first 5 verses that click on this prophetic office every recitation of the Quran begins with curse on satan and asking for the Mercy and Blessing of God. With this in mind, please tell us if it will be possible to curse satan first, immediately asking Mercy and Blessing from Allah that satan can then cause a word of his over The Words of God? Are you joking with me, man? i am sure you are.




[Quote]That is why muslims are so wicked, vicious, violen[/b]t. They [b]act with utter stupidity and without common sense. If Islamic cult system is eradicated, there will be peace on earth because 99% of wars are caused by Muhammedan Islam.[/Quote]The qualities you described in the first 2 bold are traits of humans. no community of people, muslim or others can say there is no one among then in spite of their religiosity that is free from all of them. If you ask a palestinian this very question, he/she will say its the jews who are wicked, vicious, violent, acting with utter stupidity and without common sense.


This brings me to the third bold. How can you say 99% of the wars ever fought in this world today, Islam of Muhammad [The Muslims is the proper name and not muhammadan which is a name you coined out for us in the same way the antioch people coined out christians for you. we reject what you coined in our case] is the aggressors? Are you saying the 2 wws, spanish inquisition, the crusades, all the wars that america fought before the 1990s, the british faulkan island war, etc, etc, etc and the nigerian civil headed by 'Jack' Gowon and Ojuku who are both christians are 1%? Please list 5% of your 99%, because i left a lot out of your 1% which others fought. I know you can't rise up to the challenge. Put up now or never dare to make such a baseless accusation, again.

[Quote]« #77 on: Yesterday at 03:31:54 AM »
Quote from: Sweetnecta on Yesterday at 02:02:04 AM
Jesus coming is part of end of time.
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Quote from: aletheia on May 19, 2011, 12:45 AM
Even you Muslims believe that Jesus Christ will return again. Your misunderstanding just like Joagbaje is in not knowing the manner of his second coming.
Of course God is One. . .and His Son's name is Jesus Christ.

Quote from: Sweetnecta on Yesterday at 02:02:04 AM
those who will see him will see no rapture take place.
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It is written: Behold, he cometh with clouds; and every eye shall see him, and they also which pierced him: and all kindreds of the earth shall wail because of him. Even so, Amen. I am Alpha and Omega, the beginning and the ending, saith the Lord, which is, and which was, and which is to come, the Almighty. [Revelation 1:7-8]

1) You agree that Jesus will return at the end of the age.
2) You agree that His return will be visible.
3) But you are sadly mistaken as to the manner and significance of his return.

Which also said, Ye men of Galilee, why stand ye gazing up into heaven? this same Jesus, which is taken up from you into heaven, shall so come in like manner as ye have seen him go into heaven. Acts 1:11

What a pity that you are so near. . .and yet so far away from Christ. As it is written: Behold, I stand at the door, and knock: if any man hear my voice, and open the door, I will come in to him, and will sup with him, and he with me. [Revelation 3:20]

May the Lord Jesus have mercy on you and [b]grant you knowledge of Himself.[/b][/Quote]the bold is a great testimony to your ignorance. Did Jesus have knowledge of himself that he can grant anyone? When you read the 4 canonized Gospel you will discover how deficient the knowledge of Jesus is and how powerless he was. i will just give examples for each and if you doubt me, read your bible and then argue with those who have led you astray; those who made you christians without you having an opportunity to self help, first.


[a] matt. 24 verse 36; "No one knows about that day or hour, not even the angels in heaven, nor the Son, but only the Father.

mark 11 verse 13; [it is not yet the for fig]

i do not want an one who cant be merciful to a tree on top of his lack of knowledge be my Lord when The All Knowing, The loving and The All Powerful has commanded me to approach Him, Alone; Robbi zhidini ilma. Allah is Sufficient as Source of Knowledge and Power for me. After all Jesus was a servant of God;

Jesus as a Servant!

Luke records in the book of Acts that Jesus was a servant. Let’s notice a couple of passages: "The God of Abraham, Isaac, and Jacob, the God of our fathers, [b]glorified His Servant Jesus, whom you delivered up and denied in the presence of Pilate, when he was determined to let Him go" (Acts 3:13 NKJV). Let’s continue in verse 26: "To you first, God, having raised up His Servant Jesus, sent Him to bless you, in turning away every one of you from your iniquities." (See also Acts 4:27,30, Rom 15:.

What is a Servant

Webster’s Dictionary defines "servant" as: "one that serves others , a public servant; especially, one that performs duties about the person or home of a master or personal employer".

Jesus was a servant to God the Father and to all of mankind. We have already quoted Acts 3:13 that shows that Jesus was the servant of God. Jesus was also the servant of all mankind. Jesus serves us in many capacities as our Lord, Saviour, Deliverer, Redeemer, Friend, Brother, Guardian, Shepherd, King, Mediator, Master, Healer, Messiah, Apostle and High Priest. (Request our article: "Jesus is Your: " which goes into many scriptures showing how important Jesus is to your salvation.)

An Example of a Servant

Let’s notice what is expected of a servant: "And which of you, having a servant plowing or tending sheep, will say to him when he has come in from the field, 'Come at once and sit down to eat'? {8} "But will he not rather say to him, 'Prepare something for my supper, and gird yourself and serve me till I have eaten and drunk, and afterward you will eat and drink'? {9} "Does he thank that servant because he did the things that were commanded him? I think not. {10} "So likewise you, when you have done all those things which you are commanded, say, 'We are unprofitable servants. We have done what was our duty to do'" (Luke 17:7-10 NKJV).

The servant is to serve the master first and to do his work immediately.

The word "immediately" appears 108 times in the whole Bible and 36 times in the book of Mark in the New King James Version of the Bible. In the King James Version the word "immediately" appears 17 times and the synonym "straightway" appears 19 times. We can see that one third of the occurrences in the Bible of the word "immediately" occurs in the book of Mark which gives credence to Mark’s theme of "Jesus being a servant".


[i] john 5 verse 19; So Jesus said to them, “Truly, truly, I say to you, the Son can do nothing of his own accord, but only what he sees the Father doing. For whatever the Father does, that the Son does likewise (just asking; is the Father raising death people who were in heaven, healing the blinds who are in heaven? of course not. Jesus simply meant, true him God did all that Jesus did. you dont have to see God in the physical before you know that He is the One doing the healing, etc since Jesus said he is powerless if God was not supporting him)

[ii] john 11 verse 4; When he heard this, Jesus said, "This sickness will not end in death. No, it is for God's glory so that God's Son may be glorified through it."

[iii] The Trinity Delusion: Jesus, God's Messiah [Anointed of God]
Mar 17, 2011 , For truly against Your holy Servant Jesus, whom You anointed, both Herod and , and that He may send Jesus, the Christ appointed for you. ,
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GOSPEL: John 14:1-14

Jesus said to his disciples, “Don’t be worried! Have[b] faith in God[/b] and have faith in me.
2 There are many rooms in my Father’s house. I wouldn’t tell you this, unless it was true. I am going there to prepare a place for each of you.
3 After I have done this, I will come back and take you with me. Then we will be together.
4 You know the way to where I am going.”
5 Thomas said, “Lord, we don’t even know where you are going! How can we know the way?”
6“ I am the way, the truth, and the life!” Jesus answered. “Without me, no one can go to the Father.
7 If you had known me, you would have known the Father. But from now on, you do know him, and you have seen him.”
8 Philip said, “Lord, show us the Father. That is all we need.”
9 Jesus replied: Philip, I have been with you for a long time. Don’t you know who I am? If you have seen me, you have seen the Father. How can you ask me to show you the Father?
10 Don’t you believe that I am one with the Father and that the Father is one with me? What I say isn’t said on my own. The Father who lives in me does these things.
11 Have faith in me when I say that the Father is one with me and that I am one with the Father. Or else have faith in me simply because of the things I do.
12 I tell you for certain that if you have faith in me, you will do the same things that I am doing. You will do even greater things, now that I am going back to the Father.
13 Ask me, and I will do whatever you ask. This way the Son will bring honor to the Father.
14 I will do whatever you ask me to do.

read the above. it is clear that jesus is different from God Who sent him. none of his 12 disciples was able do what he did. yet he said greater things they will do. Jesus spoke to the 12 disciples and not you 'johnnie comes lately. this is a fact and you delusion is from the error that is already a seedling in your mind. and using revelations, etc to support your theory about Jesus is unacceptable if it is different from what jesus said. your personal desire is not going to change what jesus, while you are making him what he is not.

@Kanmi22; As sSalaamualaykum wa Rahmatullah. i am a male not a female. i am not making anything hard for you, but telling you what Allah through His Messenger [AS] commanded on female.

I am sure that when you pray alone, you do not just cover your hair as in the 'scarf' as you expressed, above? definitely you do not do that in congregational salah? if this is the case, why do you think even a bit of the neck and or the chest areas as in the pictures above will be appropriate?

islam is an easy religion which there are minimum expectations in the areas that people will engage in. for example man is required to cover with 2 pieces of white clothe for hajj and or umrah rites while women are to cover as she would in prayer.

woman gets a lot of blessing and reward as she is covered in obedience to Allah, while man is not in this group of this people receiving rewards in mere wearing of clothe to cover themselves.

a woman is identified by her wears while a man is by his beard.

in my marriage, i simply remind my wife that she should imagine herself in front of Allah each time of her life out in the public domain. read surah ahzab to see what is said about covering and research related hadith/sunnah. for example women are not to shave their head while men are as part of the rights of hajj.

however if i wrong you, i sincerely apologize. i do not make up anything, and i do not deny anything in islam, wish you well.

salaama.

@Congoshine; « #185 on: Today at 04:19:57 PM »
[Quote]Quote from: miftaudeen on Today at 09:54:20 AM
some pple will never see the truth cos ALLAH had blind their inner eye,blocked their hearing.
Allah wants them to know the truth ,yet blinds them & blocks their (h)earing ? Undecided

Think about it again & tell me if it makes sense to you. Smiley[/Quote]Merciful extends His Mercy to cover everyone that wants it. If the whole of mankind wants it, it be sufficient to cover everyone.

Allah has provided in mankind an instinct to recognize truth and falsehood, right and wrong. This instinct is the base of our free will to choose guidance or misguidance.

an 'one' who decided by the allure of misguidance when it glitters to reject absolute truth has done so, becoming deaf and blind and hardhearted to truth.

this after they have heard, seen the people on the truth. Allah is just by withdrawing his Mercy from them. He deals with them in just manner by allowing them to continue in their blind rage. If they die in this condition, they can only blame themselves when Justice is metered on them in a just manner.

however while they are on earth, me included, the Mercy of Allah is open to everyone while He withholds His Justice.


you congoshine have heard from the muslims. you have read many a similitude. The Quran is there for you as a guidance. You will have no excuse.

@orikinla; the Alhaja is only that [muslima] by name and not in heart.

there is no way a true muslim will read the bible so that financial or other difficulties [trial of life] can be resolved.

in many surah's of Quran, Allah says about 'relieves' for mankind. in the hadith the same thing.

there are verses that you will recite and your financial worries will be resolved, if Allah Wills it.



your lie as i read your post is alarming because you said she owns your office property.

all she should have done was that you pay your rent even till 2050. it is ridiculous that you said this woman came and sat close to you and confided to you a secondary tenant, and many in her many properties. this many properties will be yielding good revenue if you must know. this alone weakens your message.


i know that many are not ashamed to lie, if they have to present an verifiable statement about their religion while they are showing hatred for another/other religion[s].


a wealthy alhaja will not confide in you and accept the bible to resolve a problem that she could have turned to Almighty God to resolve.
Only Allah i call on in times of hardship and abundant. i have a part of the Quran that i read every after asr prayer that Allah protects me from hunger, lack of food, etc by. it is sural Al Maida and Surah Quraish.

there is a verse in surah of the Bee that Allah told us how to resolve stomach problems. for finance you can read surah waqiah and make a particular set of prayers, and Allah will resolve your worries including at His Own time make you wealthy if you deserve it. the full road map for success and failure is in the pages of the Quran and explained in hadiths that are truth Hadith.


i am certain you didn't give anyone the NT to use, but OT from psalm of David a man you accused of sexual immorality.

jumuah barackaAllah.

Jumuah Karim

Jumuah Rahmatullah

^^^^^^^^^^ [Quote]THE RAPTURE OF ABIDING SAINTS IN CHRIST
1 Thessalonians 4:13-18[/Quote]rapture is in the future according to you. so the disciples and even apostle paul and who have died s a christian missed it. But the same rapture didn't come from the mouth of Jesus, the reason its not in the red in the gospels.



[Quote]"But I would not have you to be ignorant, brethren" (1 Thessalonians 4:13).[/Quote]a sign of corruption in the bible. this bold shows that it was from God.



[Quote]The purpose of the pastoral ministry is to "feed you (the church) with knowledge and understanding" (Jeremiah 3:15). Paul was a faithful pastor and he was concerned that the church would not be ignorant of:

(1) commitment to preaching the saving gospel of Christ (Romans 1:13-16),
(2) all things written for our admonition (1 Corinthians 10:1,6,11),
(3) spiritual gifts for evangelizing the world and edifying the church (1 Corinthians 12:1-11),
(4) trial and triumph of God’s ministers (2 Corinthians 1:8-10).[/Quote]his personal opinion that he fed and you are still being fed, part of which the above 4 where in saving gospel is preached over the Gospel that the Lord of Jesus gave him to preach as in correcting the mistakes that have around so much that everyone accepts it as the truth and not what it is.

^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^ [Quote]^
It is written: Behold, he cometh with clouds; and every eye shall see him, and they also which pierced him: and all kindreds of the earth shall wail because of him. Even so, Amen. I am Alpha and Omega, the beginning and the ending, saith the Lord, which is, and which was, and which is to come, the Almighty. [Revelation 1:7-8][/Quote]people with sound knowledge will realize that the bold is impossible because there is a part of the world that will be off the radar of where he will be 'made ' to descend, till be lands on earth.


yo! you think the earth is flat, still which i think is the reason you penned the above?

even if the earth is flat, the ability of man's vision/distance of sight will not make people in Siberia or 'anyone who is incarcerated or on the dying bed see him. these are facts that you and your bible writers did not think about before you accepted a terrible wrong concept.

the jews will not release their 'palestinian' prisoners when Jesus is coming down. the jews may e bent on killing for real this time around. here is a video of such determination; Jewish terrorists
ChristianityUnveiled

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=YgHwVE0bWfA




[Quote]Which also said, Ye men of Galilee, why stand ye gazing up into heaven? this same Jesus, which is taken up from you into heaven, shall so come in like manner as ye have seen him go into heaven. Acts 1:11[/Quote] Galilee, the village then was addressed and not 'idoma' tribe of nigeria. but unfortunately, those men of Galilee waited and nothing happened in their lifetime. or is there a galilee 'man' of Acts 1;11 still around?