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@dare2think; « #73 on: Yesterday at 04:54:11 PM »
[Quote]
You are poor if you criticize your government
You are poor if you criticize islam
You are poor if you criticize Abacha
You are poor if you criticize Ojukwu
You are poor if you criticize self-acclaimed "men of God"
You are poor if you criticize Joagbaje


-SIGHS-[/Quote]did you think through before posted Islam in the same category as any in the list? islam by head count is bigger than judaism.

islam bytrue adherents is bigger than christianity.

islam by spiritual purity is bigger than any religion [way of life] in this world. islam by its definition is older than mankind, and the first man was a muslim. so was the first woman.

and in your rage of criticizing joe, you forgot that you and him are worshipers of the man named jesus. how 'dare' you '2' criticize? did you 'think' it through [play on words]?

[Quote]#50 on: Yesterday at 05:35:03 PM »
@Martian
There are tongues of men and tongues of angels. When you speak in tongues of men (earthly language ) you don't need an interpretation. Since the people will hear you in their language.[/Quote] tongue is a language. how many languages do the Angels communicate between themselves, which are not tongues on this earth? is there any at all, joe, if you can be certain? there are no jinns or humans living in heaven, but Angels. Angels are not tribes, but a single unit of creation, for the same purpose. the language of heaven cant be different from that of revelation; thank God it is not greek. i am sure when God and Angels were talking to Adam and Eve, it was in a language that God inspired Adam to speak when he and Eve gets to earth. that must have been the language spoken until after Noah's flood.



[Quote]But when you speak in heavenly tongues . It is not in earthly communication. These are deep-sigh of the spirit.
Imagine the bible talking about someone groaning in the spirit.[/Quote]which spirit is that? or is it not personal and silent under the breathe conversation, like in humming a tune. when jesus was groaning in spirit according to the Bible, it was not other than just above silence, and under the breathe murmuring as in humming without opening the mouth. muslims do the same; talking without audible sound.



[Quote] Romans 8:26
Likewise the Spirit also helpeth our infirmities: for we know not what we should pray for as we ought: but the Spirit itself maketh intercession for us with groanings which cannot be uttered.intercession with Who? is it not the same spirit you call God the Spirit, Ghost? how does i intercede for you with himself? this verse is so convoluted, confusing.



[Quote]So it sounds like gibberish to the unlearned. (carnal minded men) but in the spirit we speak mysteries .

1 Corinthians 14:2
2 For he that speaketh in an unknown tongue speaketh not unto men, but unto God: for no man understandeth him; howbeit in the spirit he speaketh mysteries.[/Quote]it is gibberish oga joe. you wanna call it mystery. go ahead. the truth is clear. meaningless, orderless speech is inspired by satan. jesus didn't leave you with any of these tongue [in the cheek] speech. it is satan that makes it seemingly good in your eyes.[/quote]

@mrbible; « #11 on: Yesterday at 07:25:15 AM »
[Quote]True worshipers please always remember that you are like a sheep in the midst of wolves, so be wise as serpents and innocent as doves, when you attend these penticostal churches.[/Quote]going by the biblical jesus, shouldn't a true believer worship God, alone instead of 2 from the 3, if not the 3? a sheep that is in the midst of the wolves is dumb. it needs to get out of there before it becomes dinner, if not lunch or breakfast or just snack. the same serpent you claim is the symbol of evil becomes the symbol of wisdom you must imitate? there is no way a personality that is not out to deceive will have characteristics of serpent and dove together in him. you christians are dishonest people. you do evil when you say you love everyone.



[Quote]nuclearboy (m); « #12 on: Yesterday at 02:06:32 PM »

You've taken the issue too far.

Not all pentecostal preachers are wolves. And even amongst those who preach tithes, not all are criminal - many are innocently wrong and do not have the knowledge that freed you. Please remember that no man is perfect.[/Quote]wasn't the biblical jesus a man? there you have in the last bold the man called jesus. Alhamdulillah. the other bold are indicators of what the audiences are going to be when the speakers are wolves, criminals, ignorant of knowledge that saves.



[Quote]Posted on: Yesterday at 04:14:10 PM
@MrBible:

The purpose of the Christian walk is to become better till perfection comes. Maturity is a stage we get to that helps us discern between real & fake, not only in servants of God but even other matters.[/Quote]the first bold is classic. was it not just posted above that no man is perfect? that incudes however long he lived. if jesus was a man and was not perfect, when shall a christian appear on world stage and he/she is perfect? i have read somewhere that the word 'slave' is used in the bible to indicate 'christian believer'. why shying away from it and write 'servant' as if its not to mean slave? hypocrisy.



[Quote]You will meet many true servants of God who have left ALL and are out there on the missionary field. Their focus is so much on evangelism that they do not have the time or inclination to study the issue of tithes as you have done. They may innocently believe that tithes are due to them because of some drivel taught to them earlier that they never had time to study. This would compel them too, to teach the matter as doctrine. These are not satanic agents but innocent people continuing in what they were taught.[/Quote]ignorance is now a good excuse.



[Quote]I believe that it is only when a man has refused truth (presented to him) and deliberately continues in a lie that he can be called "evil"/"satanic"/etc and even then, we must do so with caution because if such has believed in a lie for 5 days, it would be easy to drop it and accept truth but some have believed these lies for decades. Such ought to be pitied and gradually shown the truth. Human foibles will not allow us accept our life-long beliefs have been wrong especially if they have cost us cash or pride and believe me Brother, the truth about tithes can make someone go crazy - all those things they gave up, the smiling face of that oily looking pastor as he got a few more million last Sunday while we stupidly paid it, etc.[/Quote]and to believe that God is 3 and became a man and was ignorant, lacked knowledge, etc, got killed like chicken by hanging, etc, are these not lies which we tell you the absolute truth and you stubbornly hang on the false that you have been fed from birth a sign of your deliberately being evil, satanic, etc? you have already witnessed against yourself.

[Quote]« #15 on: Yesterday at 11:05:07 PM »
who says we reject him its only ya biased quran dat says so. the Pagans were d first to even conceptualise d possibility of a God, through fear of his powers n devastations through nature (earthquakes/volcanoes). and yet d creator has done good for d survival of humankind (food/shelter). Bu he treats all his creatures equally, be it man or animal. Its we humans who due to our high n overlord position over fella animals have gotten proud n say dat God honors us above all n as d (biased) moslems say, God created us in his image. God can be in d image of anything around us. He is omnipotent. We want to show our love to God, a God dat we can neither feel or see. Now this is were d idols come in. We show our love to God, through d idol by bestowin everything we can n by communicating through it.]/Quote]The first will be true, if Adam was a pagan or did not recognized that there is a God Who actually created him. can you proof either or that there was a human being that lived before Adam, and he was a pagan and recognized or conceptualized God and erected idol as you now in order to act then as you act, today. the second bold is not an idea of the muslims, but the christian and jew in their idea of how man begins in creation, relative to God. the last bold is a terrible way to show love to Who is beyond comprehension, an Entity you can't see, though you know He exists.

even it is a terrible way to show love to humans who is not in front of you. is the idol a good representation? is it an accurate representation? an idol that is powerless, made up by your own hand, is now representing The One Who has All Powers and The Maker of all things! could you not have better represents Him, without anything since you cant see Him, anyhow? You could have held Him in awe, without bringing Him to a physical dimension in a way that your sight can encompass even beyond what you place as His representation. this is the iconoclastic of what God is.



[Quote]n if u say dat we r unjust by disregarding God, den y hasnt God shown humself/herself yet, eh y has he disregarded us. BUT, even if he disregarded us, we humans consider it our duty to regard him n show our devotion to him n we do this by filling the missing gap. His image. which we do through his idol.[/Quote]the first bold and the second bold, by your emotions are opposites. how sincere is your 'devotion' to Him? the third bold cheapened Him, down sizing Whot you can't see, but Who sees you and has controls over all things. how is He an image/idol that is within the earth which it and all creations, including heavens etc, are nothing more than He controls by mere commands?



[Quote]but whos his this messenger of whom u speak so highly of Nothing but a stick wielding tribal from d farthest reaches of d arabian desert n A SINNER AT that too!!!! your muhammad has actually killed fellow people. People who were even from his own tribe! Shocked Shocked
now how can i put my trust into a sinful man (or aa messenger as u call it), a man who has murdered his own brethren, people from his own tribe who it was his duty to protect according to d universal tribal law. Angry Angry Angry Angry[/Quote]stick wielding in not a bad thing. shepherd with their soft hearts wield sticks to scare of dangerous beast. they use the wielded stick to control animals and even collect grass which is animal feed by it. the first bold shows that Muhammad [as] is human, sent to his kind; human beings. he however is forgiven of his sins, even as a results, future sins were forgiven by preventing him from committing them. you are completely unreasonable though to have taken inanimate object that can't hear you or respond to you to represent God Who has power over you.

you see why your own disbelief is worse than that of the Christians who at least a step better by taking a man instead of animal [cow that you can kill to feed yourself, or wild beast that will kill you when its instinct dictates its next move] or a darn wood carved to look like a creation. a sinner who is forgiven is equal to a sinless man. Muhammad [as] did not kill anyone for his own desire, but those who are enemies of Allah, Islam, believers and purveyors of evil deeds in the land. This is the way of God [the people of Noah, Lot, Pharaoh and his supporters, even when the children of israel worshiped the golden calf [idolaters like you, they were]], wiping off societies who are extreme in their evil deeds.

you are fortunate that God is Merciful giving you and i time to correct ourselves; you away from idolatry. the last bold shows how warped your logic is since what you put your trust in is an idol; what you have made with your own hand or an animal when God has chosen men to talk to men relating His Commands. but you abandoned all of what is logical and adopt the most illogical. there is always a time evil people should not be protected. it is divine justice in action when they must be eliminated from the society so that they do not make corrupt thing the norm. incidentally, the pagans kill people on the alter of their gods. whats that all about; protecting the innocent people you kill?



[Quote]dats d reason y idols or sometimes even animals r more uselful when it comes to worship. because man is basically sinful. Sad he doesnt deserve to be worshipped or his ideas to be followed, with regards to religion.

im sorry but this computer Nigerian is leading me in d wrong direction. Wink[/Quote]while Muhammad [as] is only to be followed, not worshiped, we can see that he satisfied the natural moral leadership needed for human society. i am sure you will turn to a warrior if somebody want to kill you. you will fight to preserve your life in the case of kill or be killed. this is morality, otherwise evil doers who enjoy killing people will kill every good people. [lol; even the computer is against you!]. this is a sign for you. i pray you don't start worshiping the computer, appeasing it, making it, yet another god. strange. i won't be surprised if you say it is now a god for you. after all white people made it.[/quote]

the same you who said all prophets were sent to hebrew is lost now that your claim of all is debunked by at least two points;

there were prophets before the hebrew people ever existed. Enoch and Noah and others were prophets before hebrew people existed.

were sodom and gomorrah hebrew towns inhabited by hebrew people who you have claimed 'all prophets were sent'? if not, consider lot who was a prophet sent to these people because of their homosexual sexual acts, even in the time of abraham proved you wrong, again.

hallucination is something, uh? it did not let you read your own post correctly. you said all prophets to hebrew. i just pointed out to you that you are completely wrong.

@Vivian SA; « #4 on: Yesterday at 06:49:49 AM »
[Quoye]@Sweetnecta
It appears you are the one that does not understand christianity but I do understand you after all you are in the Islam religion.
Just a quick overview for you about the death of Christ. He came to die for our sins. He died for the lives we were living in sin without knowledge and awareness of him.[quote][/Quote]could you provide irrefutable evidences that he died, died for your sins, died for the live that you are living in sin without knowledge and awareness of him? your 'without knowledge and awareness of him' is opposite of what you have said. i want proofs of his death with possibilities that simon of sirene or jesus the son of abba s the prison was hung. read your bible ba abba s is son of the father. and thats another prisoner.



[Quote]John 3:16 "For God so loved the world that he gave his only begotten son that who so ever believes in him should not parish but have eternal life".In John 10:10, Jesus establishes his purpose in coming to the world by verse stating, "The thief comes only to steal, kill and destroy, I have come that they may have and have it to the full.(NIV)
Jesus further shows that we did not choose him but that he is the one that chose us, John 15:16(NIV) "you did not choose me, but I choose you, " He is the one that choose us before we even knew him and he died for us as John 10:10 showed you, he layed his life and died for us so that we can have life and have it in full.[/Quote]the bold is not from Jesus son of Mary, but John [nln; no last name]. this is unreliable. you should know that. you will not accept it if you are a teacher. your teacher will not accept such a statement of third party as coming from the principal speaker. this will not be admissible in any court of law.



[Quote]From the above you now understand what he came to do in the world when he came. You know his purpose for coming.

Later in the day I will give you a quick over view of his death on the cross and the significance (meaning) of his resurrection.

My plea is to speak to him because everyday I see the impact of our silence about the actions we are held accountable for the communities we try to preach to and win them over to kingdom of God.I have a very good understanding of myself in christianity and about christianity so I could never look for anything else except to always learn about my life in the knowledge of Christ.
Islam is not an option for me,not today not ever. Thank you very much though for the offer because I'm certain it came from point of concern and sincerity but Islam is a religion that is not for me.

Gala 2:20 "I have been crucified together with Christ and I no longer live, but Christ lives in me. The life I live in the body, I live by faith in the Son of God who loved me and gave himself for me". Christ is my life.[/Quote]while what is above the first bold and many others prove that jesus was a human, a prophet for his people, you have erroneously taken him for more. Gala 2;20 is not realistic. a man who is alive said he is dead, already. we know he lied because dead man does not speak. literally. who is te wife of Yahweh that gave Yahweh a son? but then, you also say that jesus is Yahweh. which one is it, Yahweh or son of Yahweh and when you said he died for you above, did Yahweh die? my dear sister, reflect on each of these before responding.

if the below is true from jesus of the bible, then there is no safety for any christian.

[Quote]« on: Yesterday at 09:11:07 AM »
John 4: 21 & 23
21 Jesus declared, “Believe me, woman, a time is coming when you will worship the Father neither on this mountain nor in Jerusalem.[/Quote]and those who worship jesus have erred 'extremely' from what jesus said above.



[Quote]23 Yet a time is coming and has now come when the true worshipers will worship the Father in spirit and truth, for they are the kind of worshipers the Father seeks.[/Quote]again, this is an indictment from the lips of jesus of the bible against those who worship him. you can bring other verses where it is quoted peter or somebody worshiped him. they either lied against peter and jesus or somebody has lied, in the light of the above.



[Quote]Jesus was going about preaching, Jesus did not set up a place of worship, this is the example true followers of Jesus should follow. These Penticostal churches are being set up by satan to keep people in bondage. True worshipers it is time for you to wakeup.[/Quote]so where did 'church', a building creep up into the ideology of the christians, if it did not come from jesus? if you say church is a spiritual thing and not a physical building, tell us where that fits in the above verses?



[Quote]4 Peter said to Jesus, “Lord, it is good for us to be here. If you wish, I will put up three shelters—one for you, one for Moses and one for Elijah.”
Setting up a place of worship is man's way of thinking, Jesus did not even answer Peter.[/Quote]this is after jesus of the bible said all worships including praise worthy names and titles belong to the One Who is not on earth, peter still erroneously call jesus lord. no wonder in addition of mentioning past personalities who were not present, intending to erect what is abomination [shelters], calling jesus lord deserved the silence [cold shoulders] that peter got. if peter was treated this way, which of you is safe? you now see how plausible that you will belong to the group jesus will say depart from me to?



[Quote]Penticostal pastors are agents of the devil and their mission is to steal and destroy like their father the devil.[/Quote]@Tonye-T; see what your christian comrade is saying about your leaders and your Leader? Glory belongs to Allah Who taught man the use of pen. and the finger of the op penned a thing that supports Muhammad [as] and disgraces you. remember that i said you do not have support against your Creator? the above is a piece of proof.

^^^^^ hubal is now Allah?


you definitely have no shame.


and i am sure you are the only one in that quality in your tribe. nigerian tribes have better base than your baseless thinking.


and i am middle aged, and you don't know they respect people in that age, or where ever you now has evaporated any cultural sense in you?

^^^^^^^^^^^^^ lol.

mushrik forgets he carved his god with his own hands and intellect. both and beyond and the material of making the god are provisions from Almighty. yet you do not thank Him. He honors you above all the creatures you can see, yet you reject Him by placing a thing which you 'put all your concentration on' as your object of worship. a thing that can't even benefit itself.

who is more unjust to God more than the one who disregards Him?

if you truly fear God, you will love Him enough to break your idol, and follow in obedience His Messenger [AS] of your time. Muhammad [AS] is that for today till end of time.

is the computer nigerian, yet it benefits you in this world. should what will benefit you after death be nigerian before you follow his example, which is Guidance?

^^^^^^^^^^^^^
[Quote]as a ministry and not take respisibility of them when such actions are in them selves nailing Christ again on the cross by the amount of dishonour that is brought to his name by our actions.[/Quote]are you saying that 'nailing him on the cross' a bad thing because all of you relish that event? are you relishing a bad thing then?



[Quote]Being silent and leaving the matter to the Pastors to deal with and present it to higher authority will not always be the solution.I need to speak to Pastor directly. It has been said the church (body of christ) is not a democracy but I don't believe the scriptures and the death and resurrection of Christ for us established the church to be an autocratic body of Christ either.
My request is sincere if any one can assist please do so.[/Quote]what are doing in a thing that you don't believe? you need a new religion. there is islam in SA you know.

^^^^^^^^ i hear you mr. pagan. you are not even fooled by what you worship which is a thing that you made with your own hands and knowledge that it can't benefit or hurt you.

if you haul it in the town dumb sight, it can't help to get itself from where ever you throw it.

^^^^^^^^ for you, it is middle age, considering how badly you are aging.

God knows my age.


from he knowledge He gave, then my parents, my elders in the family, then from what they told me with evidence.

that belief, which we have asked christians to produce for Trinity, identity and name of the ghost as they can give a Name and Identity to Yahweh as example. we ask them to give irrefutable evidence to back up their claims for jesus, son of mary, then for the ghost.

we are waiting, all over the world for 1400 years and counting more years. they resorted to greek, abandoning the semitic language revelation 'injil' must have came to jesus.

is this not the work of a snake oil traveling salesman like circus entertainers?

i am a man and what middle age means to you may be different from what it means to somebody else. having children and or becoming a grandparent is not an indicator of being old; some people have children as young as 13. imagine if this is the family norm. a 40 year old will be great grand parent.

and when your conqueror has a gun in his hand, and had just raped a young woman and destroyed her and her family in the other section of the same town, i wonder what you expect to do when he offers you his bible? and last night, he forced his way into your neighbors house, rubbed himself against the wife in front of her husband, you know he will kill you if you say to him 'hey GI, you want me to worship a man who used to cry to God as i do, even now?'

[Quote]« #42 on: Today at 01:11:38 PM »

@Sweetnecta

Dear sir, you have a totally distorted understanding regarding what is and what is not the genuine faith called Christianity.

I am a bit tied up now with work, but sometime later this evening or tomorrow ( time permitting ) , I will provide you with a logical step by step explanation on the evolution of the present day monster church which was mothered by the catholic church and initiated by Emperor Constantine.

But the real church is alive and well and growing stronger and stronger. You will hardly hear their voices, because they are non-political, not of this world but wholly dedicated to the one and true GOD.[/Quote]i will like to read where Jesus who is following the way of Moses, etc, suddenly brought up 'CHURCH' instead of temple.



[Quote]And by the way I will also explain what the catholic church and Islam have in common, both worshiping Mary and praying with beads for example. Or we could perhaps also add the Catholics bowing down before the image of the popes and Rome , while Muslims bow before the black stone in Mecca.[/Quote]i will love to read where islam is common with catholic sect, considering that Islam place Jesus [as] and his mother Mary as people; prophet to children of israel and a righteous woman, while catholic venerate, pray to Mary to get from Jesus, who actually depended on God Almighty. by the way all christians, catholic or not depend on Jesus in one form or the other. islam is far from catholicism, while protestants and other christian orthodoxies are her sisters and brothers. the claim that christians and jews are from Abraham is false, for Ibrahim was not a Jew or a Christian but a true believer in One God, submitting his will, bowing in Islam. i have not used beads in so many years that i only learnt about it on nairaland. i wonder if Muhammad [as] and his companions, males and females [ra] used beads? whoever brings new thing [innovation] to this way [Islam], said Muhammad [as], is not from us. while catholic says a different thing on a different bead in the strand of beads, muslims use the tesbir [praise] to count how many of a word he has said. big different, and i use my fingers in this case.

do muslim bow to a black stone? no. the word qibla simply means direction. the kaaba is just the mark of that direction, while it is in the Haraam mosque. when a muslim is not in that vicinity, when he prays, and bow he or she must, where is the black stone he/she is bowing to? by the way black stone is just a small piece in the empty structure that people enter and pray inside it, while prayers are offered outside, too. i do not think about the black stone when i am making my prayers. i simply visualize the structure as a direction that i have been commanded by The Loving to face. then imagine Him before me, for i am sincerely presenting myself before Him and i know He sees me while i don't see Him. back stone, black building are nothing to us if Allah did not command u that they are somethings as mark of our direction. we stand on the building to make call of prayers, to wash it as in spring cleaning, painting it, repairing it, spreading cloth to cover it. you worship Jesus. do you stand on him, repair him? maybe you stand on him and repair him since he has no power of his own, except what you force us to accept of 'fake power' you heap on him. read your bible, again. you will know that his power is equal to that of Moses, zero, each being supported from Angel Gabriel as God permitted.



[Quote]In other words they are both religions of works and void of the presence of the Spirit of GOD.[/Quote]when did Jesus cancel out work from protestants which is an offshoot from catholic, never mind the orthodox sects that have been in existence before, while all of these sects are still in the working group along with blind faith? can blind faith which by its nature is contrary to reality serve as a thing to hang your hat on? reality; God is Uniquely One in all Qualities. He is Invisible, Indivisible, All Knowing, Independent, just to name a few. when you make Jesus God, just at the same time Ghost is and Yahweh is, you do not have Uniquely One any longer, except that one or more of them are not Uniquely One. we therefore see that Jesus is not independent, not all knowing, not invisible, an offshoot from a mere woman, Mary. you can fool yourself and others, you cant fool all of us. that's the reality.

^^^^^^^^^^^^^ shake head and pity the ignorance of the ignorant.

is christianity even now being spread by the GUN? lets ask american GIs in Aghanistan and Iraq, etc.

while Martian has supplied the website above to disprove the shameless liar, the christian missionary atrocities, and christian bibles in pashtum in Afghanistan and in Iraq, the Jesus killed Muhammad and soldiers for christ and the arabic bibles all of them memorialized in youtube videos, plus the sweet candy of jesus versus the sour candy named Muhammad [AS] are pointing to the 'bloodshed' under christianity. the old chec republic crumbled with the blood of Muslims on the order of a christian warlord.


since i do not speak greek, and definitely no revelation of God came to Moses and or Jesus and definitely David in greek language, why should i tell the story of Igbo people to igbo people in Ashante language? does it make any sense? this is what is wrong to use greek to explain away what God permitted Jesus.

Allahumma laa salah ila ma ja attahu salah. wa anta tajaja alu azma ila shitta salah. iwo Olorun Oba ni kon ni Onimo. fi mo mo mi. i could say either in my salah,or outside salah supplication and the Singularly Unique One will hear and understand me, even when other muslims and non muslims all over the world are taling in the varied languages for different reasons at the same time. my Lord God knows everything in the future and capable of all things. He is no powerless at anytime; unlike the god [Jesus and the Ghost] who are depending on God.

[Quote]As with most of your other comrades: you make sweeping statements that are indefensible in the light of history and logic. Again you show ignorance of history. A lot of those other myths were spread by bloodshed and conquest and required human sacrifice.

The message of Christ was never spread by bloodshed. There is light and there is darkness, but sometimes men mistake darkness for light.

. . .If therefore the light that is in thee be darkness, how great is that darkness![/Quote]history and logic could mire [hide, completely be different] from the Truth. how could one know the Truth? The Truth is from God, Alone and no one else. if Mose killed because told him to, the was the Truth [a reality that must not be questioned; we hear, we obey you God].

the second bold; bloodshed and conquest and required human sacrifice is the hallmark of christianity. let me add deceit, because evangelizing or crusade disguised as charitable effort is still going on as we speak. there is jesus sweet candy versus the sour one dubbed Muhammad in Sudan and other places. in the 1990s, mere 16 years ago, european muslims were slaughtered like pigs before easter weekend, or turkeys before thanksgiving day.

the supposed death of jesus is 50% of what christianity stands on and spreads by. the supposed death included for sure bloodshed and human sacrifice. colonization is definitely responsible for the spreading of christianity among the third world people, the non europeans. there was the bible in one hand and the gun in the other. crusade is bloodshed and the knights of the templer and other christian cults are still on crusade today. former president bush called the war in afghanistan 'crusade', even on a toutube video. we know what iraqi war is, too.

and the Light of God is often mistaken as darkness when it begins out to shine, until death takes over man, and the reality is known. but the Light of God can never be extinguished. it is perfected and it will glow and radiate farther and further in time. dying as a disbeliever has dire consequence.



[Quote]Ὁ Λόγος πλήρης χάριτος καὶ ἀληθείας[/Quote]All Praises belong to Allah, Who revealed Taurah on Moses, not by moses or history of moses and definitely not in greek language. this revelation of Taurah to Moses is a proof that the same language or something from the same family of languages [semitic language] was definitely what Injil is revealed on Jesus son of Mary. what is the purpose except deceit to understand what came in wollof language by reading it in akan language?

[Quote]« #3 on: May 29, 2011, 12:56 PM »

Quote from: Martian on May 29, 2011, 11:49 AM
WRONG FORUM to ask that question. Since an explanation from a novice wont be suffice, go to the website below created by the University of California at Berkeley.

http://evolution.berkeley.edu/evolibrary/article/evo_01

The onmipotent and TRUE GOD SUSEJ is very upset about what you wrote. You need to repent!!!! Say 72 Hail Tonka Tonka and you should be fine. May Susej have mercy on your soul.


JESUS CHRIST IS LORD OF ALL!!: You must have the same attitude that Christ Jesus had.
Though he was God, he did not think of equality with God as something to cling to.
He humbled himself in obedience to God and died a criminal's death on a cross.
Instead, he gave up his divine privileges; he took the humble position of a slave and was born as a human being.
When he appeared in human form, he humbled himself in obedience to God and died a criminal's death on a cross.
Therefore, God elevated him to the place of highest honor and gave him the name above all other names, at at the name of Jesus every knee should bow (SUSEJ Included) , in heaven and on earth and under the earth,and every tongue confess that Jesus Christ is Lord, to the glory of God the Father. ROMANS 8:6-10[ii][/Quote]the bold is classic. i wish there is a way to bottle the pungent or rancid smell. so many billions of people will buy it, even they know the salesman is a snake oil peddler!

a God did not want to equate Himself with God. yet he never stop saying he and God are One. although he never said he was God, directly. he begged God constantly, seeking His Aid, Mercy, Forgiveness, Support. he died the death of criminal, in obedience to God Who he cried forsook him. is this true obedience, especially when you rebel like in the cry out? i though the christians deride the muslims for calling themselves 'slaves', why the God of the christians a slave? the case of the christians is worse if their God is a slave like every muslim. it is strange for a God that never let Adam and Eve live down their innocent 'sin' elevating a person who made a hypocritical cry of the 'why has Thou forsaken me' type. it is truly unbelievable, bizarre if it is true. if SUSEJ bows fow JESUS, it is a weird thing. the muslims don't. the Jesus are still frosting in the mouth, eager to get him, hard the next time. some christians even talk o Mary instead of Jesus.

the muslims, jews, and others confess that Jesus is no more than a human being. i am certain the writer of Roman 8; 6 to 10 must not have considered these people who proved his biblical statement to be false.

^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^ [Quote]The second reason the Hebrews are special is 99.9 of all the prophecies in the Bible are about them. Most of the Churches we have today came from the Gentiles. The Bible makes it clear, things to do with the Gentiles does not fall within God's arrangements for the earth. If you recall, all the prophets and even Jesus the saviour were all sent to the Hebrews to show how important they (Hebrews) featured in God's plan for the Earth. Even when Jesus was here on Earth he refused to engage the Gentiles. That shows all of God's arrangements for the Earth was to do with the Hebrews.[/Quote]i guess i am not hallucinating after all by the bold.

i guess sodom and gomorrah you have claimed by the 'all' in bold unless you are not correct as it is, is hebrew, too, since Lot is a prophet [AS] sent to them.

^^^^^^ half truth,

reality; prophesy; part of it is dream.

Ibraham, Joseph [AS], dreamt.

Joseph [as] interpreted many dreams; both of believers, himself included and disbelievers.

True dreams are from God.

^^^^^^^^^^^^ this dude loves prosperity sha. o ga o.


aje nwole ko yen?

@Aloy/emeka; [Quote]the human culture is different from Islamic culture. my wife bears her father's name. she is not mandated to cook for me or clean my clothing. i can take care of myself, while she keeps her money, she has access to mine. no disbeliever is killed simply for disbelieving, like moses did to the jebusites, people of jericho, etc and jesus said about those he wished to slain because they do not want him to rule over them. Muhammad lived with jews and Christians and pagans in Madina and all were protected under the first city state constitution which was the best charter covering community of people without discrimination.[/Quote]ol boy, you missed the bold which was part of the piece directly above, before you wrote the below.



[Quote]« #59 on: May 30, 2011, 11:10 AM »

SweetNecta stop spamming this thread with your long senseless posts. Are you BecomeRich?

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call me muhammadan as much as you want. it does not make me less than a muslim, the proper name for those who accept Muhammad [as] as the last of God's Messengers [as]. your calling me muhammadan is smilar to aloy/emeka calling me a she, and will be similar to if i say you are a homosexual. each of them is wrong, unless you are a homosexual, i will be correct. you see how the finger of ignorance and deliberate distortion of facts is pointing directly at you?
If it walks like a duck and quacks like a duck, then it is definitely a duck. I don't know the kind of male who will choose a fruity name like SWEET-NECTA unless you are gay.[/Quote]i do wear pink too. Sweetheart is an expression that comes from the mouth of my wife to me, often. my mother also call me that, too. if any of your women [if you can have any apart from your relatives] calls you sweetheart and you don't quickly said yes honey, you will see how quickly your blue chip becomes penny stock. real men answer to pet names. ask real men. not the gay church people. ask men with beard. swan is not a duck, you know. so is goose.

oh Allah let me becomerich, extremely.

@Aloy/Emeka; « #61 on: Yesterday at 03:29:16 AM »
[Quote]Quote from: chief Imam on May 30, 2011, 07:08 PM
Sweet necta, pleas ask Aloy/Emeka this question: WAS JESUS A CHRISTIAN?

Mumu, Christians are followers of Christ. The word CHRIST-IANITY was derived from CHRIST. How can Jesus Christ [our lord and saviour] be following himself?. Stop practicing RELIGION and accept Christ in order to find life. You are lost but can still be found if you accept Christ today. There is still time.[/Quote]this dude wants us to also yell 'my God, my God, why has thou forsaken me?' instead Laa ilaha Ilallah. such yell is the clearest sign of disbelief.

since jesus followed the laws of Moses, aren't you aloy/emeka a man who 'he miss road, oh yah' as Fela said in the days?

@Thehomer; « #13 on: Today at 07:47:42 AM »
[Quote]Quote from: illusion2 on April 12, 2011, 09:04 PM
True talk.

By fight back I mean education & enlightenment.

One of the reasons behind such radicalization is lack of exposure of the adherents to such theology !
Shiism isn't necessary the solution,all religions ,if not taken with the proper pill of moderation have a narcissistic tendency.


How about when they reject education as Boko Haram is doing?[/Quote]if you think this bold is Islamic, in the face of opposite view presented in the Quran by many verses, the first set being the first piece of revelation, i can see how you arrived at the second bold, below. you think your way and i understand your thinking style.





[Quote]« #14 on: Today at 07:53:04 AM »

Quote from: dexmond on Today at 02:56:48 AM
@ Sweetnecta

The following passages are some of the stuff fed those boys to kill themselves.

Qur'an 4:74

Let those (believers) Who sell the life of this world for the hereafter fight in the cause of Allah and whoso fights in the cause of Allah, - and is slain or gets victory, We shall bestow on him a great reward.

Qur'an, 9:111

"Verily, Allah has purchased from the believers their selves and their wealth, in return for Heaven being theirs. They fight in the path of Allah and they kill and are killed "


Quote from: Sweetnecta on Today at 04:48:31 AM
^^^^^^^^^^^^ let me ask you; is jesus not the same jihadist, in the manner of what the Quran says?

didn't he die, according to you because yahweh demands it?

killed or be killed said yahweh to jesus of the bible.


so he ask people around him to buy swords.

then ear was severed. and jesus was hung.


read your bible, dexmond. if i were you i will pull cloth over my eyes for lack of saying the reality.


@Sweetnecta.
You are committing a fallacy here known as Tu quoque. You need to either address the quotation presented by dexmond or show that dexmond actually thinks that your quotes about Jesus apply to him. All you have done is to attempt to dismiss the quote from the Quor'an that he presented by claiming that the Bible is also guilty. This does not address the argument he made.[/Quote]are there possible incidents that bring a pacifist like you to the fight, either in offensive or defensive position? if there is none for you, there is one for every person; when you cant take the pain of abuse anymore, certain that it will not stop unless you stop it yourself. jesus as a human reached that stage quickly in life; fighting mere businessmen when word of mouth could have been the first method to apply, if muhammad was in the same place. example of the discipline of muhammad and why i believe he would have talked first before fighting is how he did with the man who use the mosque as his personal toilet.

moses, david to name a few prophets and elects of Yahweh fought the enemies of God. even abraham did the same thing. john didn't in the physical way, though he did with his words which cost him his head. jesus attempted it later in life after the skirmishes in his youth. he even wanted to kill his subjects as a king and at the end he lost his life, according to the bible because Yahweh wanted it. whats the difference between this and verse 111 of chapter 9 of the Quran? none; kill for God or get killed for God and no one else, the reason Ali Abi Talib [ra] did not kill a person who he was about to kill, but the person spat in his face, making the condition personal in Ali's mind, instead the intending killing for Allah. now lets look at the Quranic ver in context, knowing that Ali's noble behavior above is learnt from Muhammad [as] his master.
you can start reading from chapter 4 verse 64 all the way to 79, for starter. you will see that obedience to Allah is the key, just like moses obeyed Yahweh, the muslims of the time of Quran when they were at war and even now are supposed to obey Allah, even in 'restraining' their hands in wars.
read chapter 8 verses 105 to 119. one will see that hypocrisy is frowned against. so when a believer is quoted that he aske why God forsook him, we know it was a lie on the believer or it was a saying of a disbeliever. obedience to God even in death has a great reward, why die for something other than what God wants you to die for; justice, kindness, defense of the poor, etc while you remain alive in spite of other reasons that are ugodly; cult and evil deeds.

@dexmond; ^^^^^ the above has defeated your sorry effort to belittle the master of Jesus in prophetic mission; Muhammad [as]. no wonder 'another comforter' was left to perfect what Jesus of the bible had no ability to accomplish.

dumb. dumb. dumb.

before Abraham from modern day Iraq, there were prophets;

in the bible; Adam the first man.
enoch who was the first to use pen.
noah who evil generation was wiped off the face of the earth. and new generation began from.

in the Quran, before Ibrahim after Noah, we have Salih, Hud, Shuaib [AS] to each of the prophets.


even Ibrahim or Abraham was not hebrew.

^^^^^^^^^^^^ let me ask you; is jesus not the same jihadist, in the manner of what the Quran says?

didn't he die, according to you because yahweh demands it?

killed or be killed said yahweh to jesus of the bible.


so he ask people around him to buy swords.

then ear was severed. and jesus was hung.


read your bible, dexmond. if i were you i will pull cloth over my eyes for lack of saying the reality.

@dexmond; « #5 on: Today at 03:07:32 AM »
[Quote]@Sweetnecta

Yes Mohammed was firm in his mission. That those not add or remove anything. The Devil too is firm in his mission of ensuring that many people die without Christ.[/Quote]it was jesus that the satan was firm on against. remember it was satan that controlled him in the wilderness instead of preaching to mankind in abodes of men; cities, towns, villages. and dont forget the three other times after it. even after it satan taking the form of peter. i think you need an exorcist. peter at least should.



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he did not blame God Who sent him in time of calamity like biblical jesus who blamed God as in 'why has thou forsaken me?' since only disbeliever like satan is forsaken by God. abi you dexmond want God to forsaken you like the biblical jesus? i know you no fit sha.

I do know that he tried to commit suicide on a number of occasion just as it is happening in our time. Suicide bombers are imitating their leader.

Sahih Bukhari 9:87:111

, But after a few days Waraqa died and the Divine Inspiration was also paused for a while and the Prophet (Mohammad) became so sad as we have heard that he intended several times to throw himself from the tops of high mountains and every time he went up the top of a mountain in order to throw himself down, Gabriel would appear before him and say, "O Muhammad! You are indeed Allah's Apostle in truth" whereupon his heart would become quiet and he would calm down and would return home. And whenever the period of the coming of the inspiration used to become long, he would do as before, but when he used to reach the top of a mountain, Gabriel would appear before him and say to him what he had said before.[/Quote]without critiquing the ahadith, it is similar to your bible that we see 3rd hand reporting. did the same thing happen to jesus of the bible? yes. satan took him up the cliff and dared him to jump and see if he will not die. you remember the story, man? question for you; did he take him up there physically or it was a mind game, either way proved that he aint no more than mere man.



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he was firm in resolve knowing that his Lord God is One, unlike biblical jesus who couldn't come out straight like a straight shooter, a quality you will expect of prophet, hence resorting into hideous gimmick of parables.

Yea, he was firm to know that God is one, but he did not know that God can take any form he chooses for he has power to do all things. Muhammed did not know that God could appear in the fire, He could come to you like a beggar in other to test your faith, he could come to you as a stranger, He could take the form of man in the person of Jesus to teach the highest standard of morality ever known to the human.[/Quote]is something beneath God? yes. being human because the bible supports islam in this case; God is not a man. Is something not fit the majesty of God? yes. God lacking knowledge because even the bible recognized that God is all knowing.
dexmond, dexmond, dexmond. how many times did i call you? God spoke through the burning bush, not appearing there. even you, your voice could be heard over a loud speaker, and you may not even be 100 yards near the place mr x heard your voice. what highest standard of morality taught when everything; correction, teaching, leading and acknowledgement was left by jesus to the 'another comforter'? God does not appear as a begger, you, you [#@&*_+], because even the bible says no eyes have seen God at anytime. [dexmond is joking too much].

[Quote]« #23 on: Today at 12:28:23 AM »

Quote from: chukwudi44 on Yesterday at 09:54:56 PM
@alethelia
so because amadioha/sango e.t.c are called gods ,does not mean whenever the word god is mentioned it refers 2 them.your analoggy is flawed
^
And it written: 1 Cor 8:5-6 For though there be that are called gods, whether in heaven or in earth, (as there be gods many, and lords many,) But to us there is but one God, the Father, of whom are all things, and we in him; and one Lord Jesus Christ, by whom are all things, and we by him.[/Quote]this verse is an indictment against the below verses, where the same bible has thrown in confusions calling God Lord and Lord God;
Moreover God said to Moses, "Thus you shall say to the children of Israel: 'The LORD (YHWH) God of your fathers, the God of Abraham, the God of Isaac, and the God of Jacob, has sent me to you. This is My name forever, and this is My memorial to all generations.'" Ex 3.15
John 1:1
In the beginning was the Word, and the Word was with God, and the Word was God.



[Quote]It is also written: Luke 11:27-28 And it came to pass, as he spake these things, a certain woman of the company lifted up her voice, and said unto him, Blessed is the womb that bare thee, and the paps which thou hast sucked. But he said, Yea rather, blessed are they that hear the word of God, and keep it.

What an interesting contrast! Unlike the teachings of the RCC; Jesus himself declares that those who hear the word of God and keep it are more blessed than being the mother of Jesus![/Quote]will the son of Mary love you more than his mother? at least his mother did not worship him or called him immanu, or said he is Lord, when he he is neithe Lord nor God. you are a testimony against yourself.



[Quote]To continue; it is also written: Matt 12:47-50 Then one said unto him, Behold, thy mother and thy brethren stand without, desiring to speak with thee. But he answered and said unto him that told him, Who is my mother? and who are my brethren? And he stretched forth his hand toward his disciples, and said, Behold my mother and my brethren! For whosoever shall do the will of my Father which is in heaven, the same is my brother, and sister, and mother.

And: 1 Tim 2:5 For there is one God, and one mediator between God and men, the man Christ Jesus;

Contrast the blasphemous dogma of Mary as co-Mediatrix in opposition to God's direct word.[/Quote]is the first bold not an affront and direct opposition to the injuction of respecting your parents, mother in particular? when convenient, he simply became man in the second bold shedding both the Lord and God titles. you see how skiddish the whole thing is?



[Quote]What is the difference between these two pictures?

The first is a painting by Bartolomé Esteban Murillo titled The Immaculate Conception of the Venerable Ones, or of Soult. The second is an image of Astarte (Ashtoreth). Notice the striking similarities.
Both figures have halos, are surrounded by other writhing figures and are standing on a crescent moon.

Your RCC by it's pagan traditions has corrupted the pure and Holy Word of God and is leading people astray.[/Quote]implied god is no better, either. either on earth or in heaven; paganism is paganism however you dress it up. the God is always more than One and at least one of them is dependant, where at best one of them is the Real God [check john 1;1 and you will see paganism in there]. same idea is followed in paganism where the Lords are more than One; The real Lord and then jesus, though everyone is trying to hide the ghost. we will not let them forget you ghost.

^^^^^^^^ can you show us the portion in the Quran that suicide bombers will go to paradise. otherwise you are just as terrible as the instructor.

he was firm in his mission. he didn't waver like the biblical jesus who denied he was a king when he was in the front of a mere emperor.

he did not blame God Who sent him in time of calamity like biblical jesus who blamed God as in 'why has thou forsaken me?' since only disbeliever like satan is forsaken by God. abi you dexmond want God to forsaken you like the biblical jesus? i know you no fit sha.

he was firm in resolve knowing that his Lord God is One, unlike biblical jesus who couldn't come out straight like a straight shooter, a quality you will expect of prophet, hence resorting into hideous gimmick of parables.

ol boy dexmond; you have enough already or you want more rain on your parade?

@Sagamite; « #89 on: Today at 10:41:32 AM »
[Quote]Quote from: Showab1 on Today at 10:30:21 AM
In as mush as I condemned pple taking laws into their own hands but why is it that pple just hate Muslims and Islam. Once a muslim is connected to any extra judicial killing, pple start shouting Islam as if the religion itself support pple taking laws into their own hands. Has anyone here ever mention Christian/Christianity when ever all these killing of innocent pple ( Nigerians ) occur in the US/UK just because of BB or what ever.

If some Muslims are killing everybody else (and even themselves) in the 21st century under the belief that the religion instructs them or entitles them or they feel their religion has been offended, then expect people to attack the religion.[/Quote]what if the people have understood the religion wrongly? could you still blame the religion, instead of the evil doers. similar to those who have used Sham the son of Noah to abuse black people as they understand it from their bible?



[Quote]Have you ever wondered why other religions do not get that much vituperations?[/Quote]they say whosoever pays the piper, dictates the tune. if muslims controls the media, you will find that islam is not criticized but muslims are honestly criticized if the media are honest. with all the evil that jews and christians commit, their religions are off limit, for good reasons; they control the tv, the print, the news.



[QuoteIf such senseless murderous killings are not part of Islam then Muslims should take back reins of their religion from the extremists.

To do this, Muslims should be the FIRST, the LOUDEST, the MOST UNRESERVED and the MOST VICIOUS critics of other muslims that commit such crimes and cut out that shyt of giving lame excuses of "provocation" or "do not side with an infidel against a fellow muslim" occultic shyt I have frequently seen.

Start it by being brave enough to condemn islamic fundamentalism and terrorism in your own Mosque and convince your fellow believers there that doing so is not an attack on Islam or muslims.[quote][/Quote]there is nothing wrong with fundamentalism in its purity. secondly, a liar can say he his a fundamentalist. the word infidel is found in the bible and not in the Quran, why say it is islamic when it is from christianity, unless the bible is not the essence of christianity? this video is a start to let you know what muslims have been doing against injustice. and for a man who is living in england, the muslim community in that nation has consistently plays a pivotal role in the so called war on terrorism which irish people didn't play against the ira in her days. i remember late senator kennedy raising monies for the irish effort in the usa.
http://www.thedeenshow.com/show.php?action=listvideo&sid=61&id=872
this video will lead you to other series so that you are better educated.

@Shadrach77; « #87 on: Today at 10:33:02 AM »
[Quote]another proof that Islam is a satanic religion  Sad Sad Sad[/Quote]we in islam curse satan. if our religion is what you say it is, yet we curse satan, daily, do you curse the one you say your religion is from or anchored upon? i know paul said his soul by his hanging is cursed so that you christians are not cursed. but your behvior is not better than the behavior of the worst muslim. all a person has to do is to push the right button and you see the christians flying off the handle, from back to sender to all out cursing.