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and Joseph is father. think about it.

^^^ and his mother was never reported to be pregnant or delivered another child after him.
Toba does not know that old man Joseph was a father of these men before Mary was ever in the pictures.

sorry i spelled my sister plappville's name wrongly.

it tells you that i have not been keeping up with her.
i am sorry, sis.

please let me know that you forgive me, my sister.

Hey my sister plappsvile. how are yah?

@Toba: « #26 on: Today at 01:40:28 PM »

Quote from: Sweetnecta on Today at 01:20:36 PM
^^^^ How do you epitomize being a father, a husband, a grandfather, by using a confirmed bachelor as your ideal man, compared to a matured virgin who married a twice married but net to marry a good husband older than you woman, a widower, a remarried to women of his age, younger woman, even a virgin, a father, a grandfather, a good nephew, a good cousin, etc, just to name a few roles of Muhammad to his family and community?
God forbid me taking a role model from such. I prefer to remain a bachelor that lust after women in a bid to satisfy my $exual appetite for women. God has blessed me well enough to have a lot to spend but never will i comprise and lust after what can destroy my soul here on earth and in heaven.

When the time comes, i will take the bold step

based on the 2 bold, everything okay?

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Toba don't let us compare Quran or authentic hadith and sunnah to the bibles. Quran, authentic hadith/sunnah are revelations, while the 'bible' is not.

This is another big lie. Why did u get such notion from? [b]The Quran is more of a copy of texts already written in the bible [/b]and many of u guys usually adopt the bible to Justify some of what has been lifted therefrom not so?[/Quote]the bold is similar to 2 nigerians writing about October 1, 1960 and the nigeria before it. If one listened to all the fathers of Nigerian independence and the struggle before it and the other being an earlier author whose manuscript was lost, but a ghanaian wrote in Akan from memory, and togolese copied it. imagine if we nigerians then use what the togolese produced from the make up of the ghanaian and now compare it and say it is the original over what combination of Dr. Azikwe, Chief Awolowo, Abu Bakr, etc, etc said?



[Quote]Quran is no way a better literature. Do u know that close to 61% of the Quran is centered on Non muslims and evil to be wrecked on them?

OT is about non believers; the nations that the children of israel dealt with, pharaoh, too. So what are you saying? NT spoke about those who are following Jesus in his community. does that render the nt fake in the christian community? you need to jump ship so that I can call you my muslims brother, instead of omo iya, omo 9ja, omo afro, omo eniyan only.



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the quraish were idolaters so it is no surprise that they carried paintings, not picture because camera including the basic pinhole camera was developed later. no painting, no sketching. erasing it not a sign of hatred because Muhammad [as] described Jesus [as] as his brother. we are all human brothers and prophets were prophetic brothers of one another.

Jesus cannot be a brother to him with that kind of style he adopted whilst on earth.

They were/are two contrasting pple. One is gentle and the other was violent.[/Quote]Remember Jesus did not have a blood brother? His mother didnt have any son for old man Joseph. Who is gentle? The one that does not get fight all the time. Who is forgiving? The one that can take vengeance, but refused to appropriately. The one who brags to kill but get killed is not sincere. The one who can kill but forgives, thats the best manner.



[Quote]Jesus is not a mere mortal. [b]Yes he was whilst on earth [/b]but now is more than that cos hes going to Judge the earth.

[b]I still dont know how placing of painting and pix will represent idolatry. [/b]If they were bowing down to worship pix, thats a different thing. I have pixs on my walls too in my house and in the office. so?[/Quote]the 2 bold speak volume about the spiritual grounding.

@Toba; « #20 on: Today at 01:02:24 PM »
[Quote]Whats this old man saying? Seems u are missing the point completely

Quote from: Sweetnecta on Today at 10:40:50 AM
^^^^^^And this is the best commitment to his followers?
How did the followers repay him, except by betrayal, denial, changing his status with God, etc?
BS BS and BS. His followers are still praising him till date and worshiping the giver of life. We are recognizing christ in relations to what we have read in the bible about him and how the holy spirit describes him to us.[/Quote]no christian is a follower of Jesus, even though this is their claims. the followers of Jesus were what you call disciples, not even including apostles, Paul or not, as long as they never saw him. if you go back to your bibles, the word christian was never uttered in the presence of Jesus, he would have rebuked them. He was not a christian, so he couldn't have been your leader and you johnnie lately is not his follower. Praising him you said? he would have rejected and probably ask they bring you before him and be slain for lying on him. Jesus didn't give life. He was not even a law giver, the reason he followed the laws of the old prophets [Moses a clear example]. And your recognizing Jesus based on the farce you found in the Bible is a woo woo lie, clear to those of us who are not that gullible to absorb made up stories. remember there was to be a corrector and a leader in the form of another comforter? we follow him and his name is Muhammad [as]. He made us know that Bible was not a revelation from God, But Suhuf Ibrahim, Tawrah of Musa, Sabur of Daud, Injil of Iba bin Maryam were revelations.

And stop abusing the holy spirit that didn't speak up even as a fire tongue on Pentecost, so how did this same non speaking holy spirit, failed to fulfill the roles of Another Comforter, but yet he described Jesus to you? You think we will let you live down this false claim?



[Quote]Heres what he said about himself in the bible.

Jesus identifies himself explicitly in John's Gospel[/Quote]What about other gospels? Wait a minute; didnt Jesus preached a gospel, his own? Where is it and thats what we need to find his statements about God Who sent him, himself the servant sent and the believers who were with him, listening and obeying what he was sent with and the disbelievers who rejected it and the hypocrites claiming lies on him.



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Shall we first compare the followers, in kindness between one another because of their human master [as] who taught them and led as example?
Sure u can just remember that muslims that are followers of mohammad are killing themselves in northern Nigeria and in the middle east[/Quote]Colonialism, many wars and the 2 world wars, George Bush, killing and destruction of Yugoslavia, Czechoslovakia, etc are handwork of christianity. No one has blamed Jesus for it just because we know that he is not responsible for the action of humans who have free will at their disposals. Blame Muhammad [as] for actions of those who went back to jahaliyya [ignorance] after  they say that have believed.



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Ali [ra] his nephew did not need permission from his father in order to become muslim, and he laid on his bed ready to die in his place if possible.
Zayd [ra] as a slave rejected his father and wished to remain a slave of Muhammad [as] who was willing to set him free. He then adopted him.
Abu Bakr [ra] was named siddiq because he said if Muhammad [as] said it, i believe it without needing to hear him say it.
I dont know what u are talking about here[/Quote]I know its beyond you, so step aside, move out of the way so that others can read and reflect. We are comparing followers of the two noble men. One authentic followers, the others are fair weathered friends/followers; read your Bible and see deceit in action, even the one housing satan.



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Muhammad ate what his followers ate and taught them to share; a plate for a man is enough for at least 2 men. 1/3 food, 1/3 water in your stomach.

Muhammad carried stone, mortar to build. broke stone and dug dishes as needed along with his companions as need be. he was a regular guy, if you will and it was his example Umar [ra] copied that people did not know he was the kalipha.

Muhammad [as] helped clean, cared and if you will diapered his grand children. He played with children enough that you will believe he was their intimate friend, without having adult friends of his own.

I wash feet and clean children of friends, babysitting them in the days. And my example was Muhammad [as].
Good for him, if he did im just telling u that Jesus epitomized humility to the core. Heres another one to show

In your relationships with one another, have the same mindset as Christ Jesus:[/Quote]As the  song goes; Love and marriage, you cant have one without the other. Muhammad [as] was married. The singer was as it he was saying if you are not married as an adult, without any apparent reason, and you claim that you lived the life of human into its fullest, you may have not been telling the truth, because you do not love because you never loved.

Only a man who wishes to hide the truth will look at the relationship of Muhammad [as] with his grand children; Hassan and Hussain [ra] will say anyone showed more love to human being than him. Please drop the charade.

@Vedaxcool; As sSalaamualaykum. Jazakallahu khair.

@ Toba; You love worshiping pictures, so you forgot that that is idolatry.
oluwa a seee. Islam a wo ile eee lti odo sisi wa. My muslim brothers shall not disappoint.

pinhole camera came much much later. so what was on Kaaba of Jesus and mary were painting/drawing. not picture, i tell ya.

^^^^ How do you epitomize being a father, a husband, a grandfather, by using a confirmed bachelor as your ideal man, compared to a matured virgin who married a twice married but net to marry a good husband older than you woman, a widower, a remarried to women of his age, younger woman, even a virgin, a father, a grandfather, a good nephew, a good cousin, etc, just to name a few roles of Muhammad to his family and community?

Toba don't let us company Quran or authentic hadith and sunnah to the bibles. Quran, authentic hadith/sunnah are revelations, while the 'bible' is not.

the quraish were idolaters so it is no surprise that they carried paintings, not picture because camera including the basic pinhole camera was developed later. no painting, no sketching. erasing it not a sign of hatred because Muhammad [as] described Jesus [as] as his brother. we are all human brothers and prophets were prophetic brothers of one another.

@maclatunji: thanks. Jazakallahu Khair.
i often write with my emotion.

^^^^^^And this is the best commitment to his followers?
How did the followers repay him, except by betrayal, denial, changing his status with God, etc?

Shall we first compare the followers, in kindness between one another because of their human master [as] who taught them and led as example?
Ali [ra] his nephew did not need permission from his father in order to become muslim, and he laid on his bed ready to die in his place if possible.
Zayd [ra] as a slave rejected his father and wished to remain a slave of Muhammad [as] who was willing to set him free. He then adopted him.
Abu Bakr [ra] was named siddiq because he said if Muhammad [as] said it, i believe it without needing to hear him say it.

Muhammad ate what his followers ate and taught them to share; a plate for a man is enough for at least 2 men. 1/3 food, 1/3 water in your stomach.

Muhammad carried stone, mortar to build. broke stone and dug dishes as needed along with his companions as need be. he was a regular guy, if you will and it was his example Umar [ra] copied that people did not know he was the kalipha.

Muhammad [as] helped clean, cared and if you will diapered his grand children. He played with children enough that you will believe he was their intimate friend, without having adult friends of his own.

I wash feet and clean children of friends, babysitting them in the days. And my example was Muhammad [as].

dr joe, please comot for road.

hey sahih_jp, are you denying that Jesus said 100 folds?
maybe, you need glasses [alice. get some glasses, alice], because in the list of 100 folds smacked squarely is [wife].

if Jesus is reported to say there is no marriage at resurrection, then there is a conflict.

either way, somebody is not telling the truth. i say its the bible writer[s].

now we are rubbing minds. when do we get there?

and Adam was married to Eve, our mother. our mother i say.

he calls me sour necta, because he is woman, man.

pele. if you let us know your gender, i will refer you appropriately.

see how i refer frosbel. i will never call him a she/he because i know he is definitely a he.

your case is not clear like that.

i am your friend. i just can not take your friendship more importantly that a aloy@emeka who is a muslim.
the muslim aloy@emeka is better than the aloy@emeka who is not.

. . . Two questions arise:

1- Why does the Qur'an describe the Hur at length but never frankly names them by their genus (jins), "women"? . . .

. . . 2- Why would the Qur'an frequently mention a sexual reward specific to men in Paradise and never its equivalent for women? . . .

www.livingislam.org/fiqhi/fiqha_e18.html

. . . The least one should say is that Allah Most High is perfectly able to reward the men among the faithful with chaste maidens of great beauty in Paradise, just as explicited in the texts and without divestment of meaning; and Allah Most High is perfectly able to reward the women among the faithful with a perfect equivalent left unnamed out of regard for the greater modesty of women . . . .

. . . Saabirah [N N] wrote in a message
[Concerning] the subject of "houris" as you have defined the term.

Surat al-Waqi'ah, ayaat 22 and 23:
"And [with them will be their] companions pure, most beautiful of eye, (23) like unto pearls still hidden in their shells."

I again refer to Muhammad Asad's notes on these ayaat.
"The noun "hur" -- rendered by me as "companions pure" -- is a plural of both ahwar (masc.) and hawra (fem.), either of which describes "a person distinguished by "hawar", which latter term primarily denotes "intense whiteness of the eyeballs and lustrous black of the iris" (Qamus) . . .


www.paklinks.com/gs/, /42181-houri-has-no-specific-gender.html

. . . 3. Meaning of Hoor
The word hoor is actually the plural of ahwar (applicable to man) and of haura (applicable to woman) and signifies a person having eyes characterized by hauar a special quality bestowed upon a good soul, male or female in paradise and it denotes the intense whiteness of the white part of the spiritual eye. . .

. . . 4. Women will get something exceptional in Paradise
Many scholars say that in context, the word hoor used in the Quran refers only to ladies since gents are addressed. A reply that would be accepted by all types of people would rather be the answer given in the Hadith when a similar question was posed that if a man gets a hoor, a beautiful Maiden in Paradise, then what will the women get? The reply was that the women will get that which the heart has not desired for, the ear hasn’t heard off and the eye hasn’t seen, indicating that even the women will get something exceptional in Paradise.

@aloy@emeka; « #8 on: Today at 12:53:07 AM »

Quote from: Sweetnecta on Yesterday at 04:38:09 PM
Aloy@emeka and those who device and practice this evil are on the same boat.
Oga la re. Ma fe iyawo pu po, ki o le ni emi gigun[forgive my poor Igbo Kiss Kiss Kiss].[quote][/Quote]the bold is edo as in lanre la re. the rest is your beloved yoruba. where is igbo in there?
emi gigun for men has been proven when the spouse is 15 years younger. Aloy@emeka doesn't know that; man woman aloy@emeka.

i need to get me that daughter of Toba, because i am sure i am somewhat 15 years older, intending to add a decade of two, through her to my age, if Allah Wills me to be live longer.

unless if toba already willed her to my brother in Islam as he promised, earlier.

we in islam do not compete again each other in matters of intending marriage, so i may have to find that young woman still.

definitely, muslim woman/women has/ve right over me, than any non muslim woman.

How I wish Sahih_JP can drink the truth serum, if he knows he is telling the truth.

Oh earth, men at least show greater sexual charge while women for the most hide it.
If Sahih_JP is a legally married man, he must have had experienced some se.x with his mate [zawj].
I wonder if he is not the one that initiates it, more times than his wife? And is he the one who is the position of sex.ual submission or it is always his wife, who he is in the position against her to dictate the terms and how the se.x will go and turn out [kind of like it is the male gamete [sperm] that determines the gender of the baby]?

Sahih_JP, you opened a can of giant worms. If you think Islam will lay down and don't react by refuting your claims, you do not know that Allah your creator Who you are denying His Rights over you has bestowed Mercy on the muslims. On this forum, the women you choose to speak for, while you are a man and not a muslim, will respond to you, as you ought to be responded to.

How you are a sahih with this much misinformation is a mystery.

^ should i respond. Should i not respond [repeat it until tired up and gone to bed]

When is God in English is property of Kufar [christians]?

Don't Jews in english countries say God to mean YHWH?

@Frosbel; the hadith you quoted says people of paradise. people is both sexes.

then it uses the situation of males to illustrate the good life of paradise. se.x is a good thing, you must agree, since you are married.
otherwise, as stuck up as you are you will not be having it if its not a great thing.

no benefit has a man of paradise over the woman of paradise.
on earth, man does not have advantage over woman in matter of se.x.
each participant has the pleasure s/he desires.

if you think man is advantage because he is a male, ask mrs.

@op: I have responded to you on the thread you started in the Muslim section.

You asked for Houris, being males for women; The answer is already there.
Yes. And i supply nothing less than 5 Quranic Verses.

Anyone with an aorta of sincere honesty not conniving deception, will simple goggle if houri is also male for women of paradise.

Hey frosbel the cheerleader; cheer the author on to perdition. It may be the best abode for evil doers.


And Jesus of the bible promised 100 folds, too.

@Sahih_JP: « #34 on: Today at 07:48:44 PM »
[Quote]Quote from: Sweetnecta on Today at 07:09:07 PM
@Sahih_JP: the goods for Islamic paradise are reserved for men and women.

the men part is described as female [houris]. but there are men houris [the husbands], just like zauj is for male and female mates as husbands and wives in marriages, so is houri in paradise.

Sweetnecta,
Islam accepts the Quran, the Sunnahs and the Hadiths as its scriptures. Can you cite us a reference from the Quran or the hadith to support what you said about the possibility of male houris? We are waiting for the scriptures from which you got that notion.[/Quote]You should have simply goggle this and see that it refers to both sexes. Question; Quran; houris in paradise is also man for the woman of paradise? en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Hour

[Chapter (Surah) Ad-Dukhan (The Smoke)(44):54]
[Chapter (Surah) Ar-Rahman (The Most Beneficent(55):56]
[Chapter (Surah) At-Tur (The Mount)(52):20]
[Chapter (Surah) Al-Waqi'a (The Event)(56):34-36]


There are also verses regarding both genders explicitly:

God has promised the believers, both men and women (Lit., waalmuminoona (male believers) waalmuminatu (female believers), gardens through which running waters flow, therein to abide, and goodly dwellings in gardens of perpetual bliss: but God's goodly acceptance is the greatest [bliss of all] -for this, this is the triumph supreme! [Chapter (Surah) At-Taubah (The Repentance) (9):72]

As for anyone - be it man or woman [Lit., min (from) thakarin (male) aw (or) ontha (female)][16:97] - who does righteous deeds, and is a believer withal - him shall We most certainly cause to live a good life, and most certainly shall We grant unto such as these their reward in accordance with the best that they ever did. [Chapter (Surah) An-Nahl (The Bee) (16):97


A verse regarding other companionship:

“And, O our Sustainer, bring them into the gardens of perpetual bliss which Thou hast promised them, together with the righteous from among their forebears, and their spouses, and their offspring - for, verily, Thou alone art almighty, truly wise [Chapter (Surah) Ghafir (The Forgiver)(40):8]

I think Sahih_JP does know that no man can sleep with more than one woman at a time.
He should know that women can be extreme in sexuality that she sleeps with more than one man at a time.

What Allah then describes of paradise is taking the case of man as the example and refrains the woman in my opinion that there will not be excess as some non muslim women go, ready for whatever as if in a bathhouse.

Every wife is a houri, too for the husband. So is the every husband is a houri for the wife. Houri is not just the houri created and no man and jinn ever touched. A woman who goes to paradise without her earthly husband will have her own newly minted houri of a man/husband.

Every man and woman who end up in paradise is a new creation and it is Allah's Mercy on husband and wife that they are reunited and reestablish what they used to have; making every time the first time feeling for them.

Destination of either in Paradise or Hell is fundamentally based on Belief.
after it, going to paradise is supported by work of good deeds;

both true belief and work of righteous good deeds are elements of MERCY of Allah who made the free will of the believer leans towards proper Aqeedah and her [his] work something that benefit his/her soul. Your work alone without proper belief will earn you only praise, etc on earth and that is enough reward for not having the correct belief. Your correct belief is the primary ingredient, that will lead you to do good deeds for the pleasure of Allah, realizing that you are nothing, needing Him and appreciating the opportunity He gave you.


Peter, your name sake who followed Jesus [as] must have proper belief in the mission of Jesus based on the Injil given to Jesus to preach to the Jews. Peter believed and did good work based on that belief. He will be different than the romans who did good work but did not belief and died on it during the time of Jesus. Since Jesus was not the last messenger to all men, just like Moses was not the last messenger to even the children of israel, we see that the true Paradise is Revealed in the Quran to mankind.

You will agree that it is very rare to find many women wanting to have many husbands [more than one] at a time. If that is not even desired or carried out on earth, even by those freaky sexual pros [pros.titutes], why would you think that it will be desired in heavens?

Did you forget that in the Lord's Prayer of Jesus, it is "done on earth as is done in heaven'', including sex at the end of the day, because Adam was the husband of Eve and sex is part of husband and wife relationship.

But guess what, Jesus promised you christians [since he is your all in all] hundred folds of wives, if you left 1 for him, hundred folds of husbands if your wife left you for him.


READ YOUR BIBLE DAILY.

@Sahih_JP: the goods for Islamic paradise are reserved for men and women.

the men part is described as female [houris]. but there are men houris [the husbands], just like zauj is for male and female mates as husbands and wives in marriages, so is houri in paradise.

if you expect how male partners are shaped and presented as in presence in paradise, Allah is not without His measured Perfection; He is the One Who knows what is appropriate, appropriately.

A woman would not mind to hear the description of a female as being with best shape of facial features and elements and the rest of what you think makes a woman a really pretty woman.

but a woman would not want to hear the male elements being described as donkey type and throws out like a horse [check out your bibles of the woman lusting after man in Egypt; almost a roman novel that you expect fabio to be posing for the cover.

Aloy@emeka and those who device and practice this evil are on the same boat.

funmi [whoever she is], aloy [man/woman]@emeka, freeze up smiley face frosbel and toiling unsuccessfully after every muslima toba need to know that Jesus didn't say oh mt God, by [oh if you which to start it like that] my Ellah [not Yahweh, not I Am, not Jehovah, etc. This is what you said he died with on his lips. If it is different, let us know and bring up authentic, syriac language Injil to prove your point, against me.


Allah [Ellah] is the Proper Name of Who you identify as God in English, Ubangiji in Hausa, Ocho in Udoma, Olorun in Yoruba, Chukwu in igbo, and other languages have theirs.

If you speak yoruba, toba, aloy@emeka, do you say oh my God, or do you say Olorun mi o?

if you speak igbo [idoubt if you do] frosbel, aloy@emeka, do you say oh my God, or do you say Chineke mu o?

^^^^^^^ [Quote]« #5 on: Yesterday at 01:05:04 PM »
only God knows why u like going off topic when discusing with u.[/Quote]Glory belongs to God, Alone being the All knowing. You are on your way to Islam. See. Jesus didn't know all.


[Quote] if u are claiming that Jesus and his mother were muslims, why then do u still say that anyone who's not a muslim is doomed cos the followers of Jesus automatically becomes muslims as a result of Jesus being a muslim?[/Quote]Not automatically, because followers by mouth without action are FAKERS. You are a fake muslim, Toba. See. You are finally exposed.


[Quote] U may wish to also claim that may be Jesus deviated from Islam cos no where was he quoted to have prayed your kind of 5 times daily prayer or faced the sun, or did the ablution 5 times a day.[/Quote]I dont face the sun here. People in South Africa don't face the sun. People in Europe dont face the sun. People in Alaska dont face the sun. People in Australia [ask Tpia@] don't face the sun. just because you are located almost opposite Makka in lagos on the western side, is the reason you face Makka in your easterly direction. No everyone in Makka face the sun. All around the world face Kaaba. Remember Jesus made proper prayers one time. It happens that it was in the night time. He probably made Magrib as the sun just set, then Isha about 90 minutes after, then tahajjud/Qiyammulail all night and subh before the sun rose. Didn't the people in the bible wash up before they approach God? That was Wudhu.


[Quote]When christ taught his disciples how to pray in matt6, it was the lords prayer and not fatia that he taught.Now your theory of christ being a muslim is false completely[/Quote]That was a mere dua. That is not truly obligatory but voluntary. See you dont even make that same Lord's Prayers in your church, every service. If it was your prayers, why the dancing and clapping and the hymns and other kneeling down actions? Or did he and the followers knelt when they made the Lord's prayers? But he knelt and face on the floor all night at the geshsemane.


[Quote]What u are also pretending not to want to accept is the fact that she is the most unique person on earth as at that time and remains the most unique person in history of mankind if we are to stick with one aspect of his nature as the son of man.[/Quote]He is always son of man from the womb of a woman. Darn. You amuse me. And you haven't heard of test tube babies? They start life from the dish.


[Quote] The quran and the bible agrees that no s€xual intercourse brought Jesus into life,which means he came to the word as a form of word spoken by God into a human womb, such wod become a man, lived in a womb for 9 months and was given birth to.What other kind of person have had such similar birth history till date? Mohammad or who? persuading me that someone else is more worthy of being followed other than Jesus with what i just stated above may be illogical[/Quote]Then follow the religion of Adam [as] since you wanna talk about unique way of coming to life. Adam as a man beats everyone hands down. From his body, woman was created. You can follow the religion of Eve, which is the same as the religion of Adam, which was finally complete on Muhammad [as] after passing all prophets in a way to completion, including passing through the non christian Jesus. Now convince me that the religion of Jesus is christianity and different from the religion of Noah which was not Judaism.


[Quote]your Quran also states that the followers of Jesus will have nothing to regret or loose.[/Quote]When Jesus was alive, that is. Not when Muhammad [as] has arrived and established the Sharia of Allah, without ability to change this "COMPLETED" process.


[Quote]why then do u keep saying ignorantly that the believers and followers of christ will go to hell? Shocked heres what your quran says. please note carefully the words of the Quran in Sura 3:55 (Al-Imran) - "Allah said, Isa (Jesus), I am about to cause your term on earth to end and lift you up to Me. I shall take you away from those who disbelieve and exalt your followers above them till the Day of Resurrection."[/Quote]Pay attention. Was Jesus alive when Allah was talking to jesus, which later was revealed to Muhammad in the above verse? If jesus was alive, then it was close to 600 years before Muhammad was told of the story of the old. 600 years before, the followers of jesus were believers and preferred over the disbelievers. That whole equation began to change after Jesus was lifted up to Allah. It continued to be worse century after century to the point Jesus was made to become god and son of God and the one who got his mother pregnant. These were the stories that Allah revealed to Muhammad [as], how your christian forefathers became pagans. Can the religion of Judaism be chosen over Christianity immediately Jesus began to assemble those who were later called Christians? Such is the condition of Christianity in light of Islam.


[Quote] God says that the followers of Jesus will be exalted until the Day of Resurrection! Has that day come yet? NO.[/Quote]Is Jesus still here? is any of those followers with him still here? Paul was not part of that group, you will agree because they were 12 disciples. In view of the above, you were neither a true believer nor a follower of jesus. Lip service does not count.


[Quote] Therefore, Jesus is worthy of being followed and his followers are honored by God just as Jesus is. HALLELUJAH - PRAISE BE TO HIS HOLY NAME! If you are a true follower of Jesus Christ according to His Holy teachings, then you have full assurance of salvation in the last day (Romans 8:1).[/Quote]Say a thousand that and even more hail Marys. If will not change the fact of the time and place when followers of Jesus and Jesus were so honored. They were on earth then, some 600 years before the Islam of Muhammad [as]. Install for yourself a middle man, while you unknowingly say that God is mean, unapproachable and not merciful. This is the only reason you disregard God's commandments, instead think that you can run to Jesus who is taken by you to be more merciful to circumvent God's Decision and Ruling.

^^^^^^^^^^^ hey author; how many threads will you at the end upon on a single book? the thread on the intro, people asked you questions, you never responded. why?

you need to get back in there and answer questions from women who you seem to be speaking on their behalf. they may be asking you what authority do you have to speak for them, when you are neither a woman or a muslim woman?

This Mr. JP Sahih will never come back to defend his "Book". He reminds me of British officers wearing islamic garb and from a distance slaughter Cow the god of the hindus like Jesus the god of the Christian was slaughtered.

Then the British in their gimmick will shout Allahu Akbar as the cow is already slaughtered, waiting around long enough to let the idol worshipers catch a glimpse of them.

The idol worshipers in their anger, think its the muslims. Then they go to town on the muslims; killing whatever moves.

The live of one cow will be equal to many lives of the muslims. And the pagans are not satisfied till today; Jews against muslims of palestines, christians against afghanis, iraqis, etc.


Where disbelief goes, it comes with its heavy boot crushing along the way to a no ending destination. George Bush.