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[Quote]« #23 on: Today at 08:28:00 PM »

That is your own interpretation !

I am not sure why boys will be described in such a fashion , does not sound right to me.

Historically speaking , sodomy was prevalent in Arabia and still is today , so it is no surprise that these verses are in the Quran. Why must they be little young boys with pearls on their arms  Undecided  Why not adult servants, why not old men.

Madam you are defending the indefensible.

Your paradise is no paradise at all but a place of unbridled lust, sensual pleasure and perversion of the worst kind.

There are evidential images I have to prove my point, but I will rather not for the hideousness of it all and to avoid the defilement of fellow brothers and sisters.

Also can you explain to me what is the purpose of having a sex market in heaven, what madness is this  Huh  . Can ALLAH not think of any other more noble objective for his followers !!

Hadith:  Al hadiths, Vol. 4, Page-172, No.34:  Hozrot Ali (r.a) narrated that the Apostle of Allah said, “There is in paradise an open market wherein there will be no buying or selling, but will consist of men and women. When a man desires a beauty, at once he will have intercourse with them as desired.[/Quote]They are the waiters mehn. I am sure you have not been in any high class establishment before with this poor village boy thinking. Expensive places have the best looking people in fancy uniform attending to guests. If man can design this, should God do less for those He is please with? Frosbel is a bush man still, with all his londoner image.

I dont twist the bible verses. if you know one I have, please present it, or forever hold your peace.

@Frosbel: « #10 on: Today at 03:29:12 PM »

[Quote]^^^^


Please explain the below :

Qur'an 56:13 ", Round about them will (serve) boys of perpetual (freshness), of never ending bloom, "

Qur'an 76:19 "And round them shall serve immortal boys of perpetual freshness, never altering in age. If you saw them, you would think they were scattered pearls."

Qur'an 76:21 "Upon them will be green garments of fine green silk and heavy gold brocade. They will be adorned with bracelets of silver;, "[/Quote]So you don't know that the people of Paradise are honored by Allah? Imagine if you are being honored with an official dinner by the Queen. What type of people that will be selected to serve you and the guests; an old man whose face is full of wrinkles in dirty clothing or the young adult, groomed up and handsome males? The scenery a the banquet will be a sight to behold. If England can so honored you, imagine the opulence that will be displayed in Paradise. I actually thought these verses are easy to understand if you put yourself in the place of the event.

^^^^^^^ before we are human human on earth we already confessed Islam at our spiritual gathering in heaven.

so which one really came first?

@Mail4gift2: « #7 on: Today at 03:58:16 PM »
[Quote]Quote from: Sweetnecta on Today at 11:29:29 AM
so mail4gift2 couldn't have resolved this simple situation by calling on his trinitarian gods, so he is now employing the knowledge of anyone; atheist and others? is your god so deficient that you couldn't have realized that just because you get it right sometimes or getting it right all the time, is just a matter of the Will of God, Who permitted you to be accurate. Not because there is anything about it. Deja Vu is garbage.

Often a times, I guess right the portion of the Quran that will be recited by the Imam in a Rakah, but I can't guess, all the time and i dont even try to because God is Merciful on me, so He lets me forget many things.

You need to come to islam, since you are a borderline pagan; going between disbelief and silly superstition that you created for yourself.

You are in Malaysia. Take advantage of knowing pure form of Islam instead of monkeying around with mind game, allowing Satan to drive you around at will. Deja Vu is Voodooo of the mind.

@Benodic; You too? Playing armchair analyst? You people must stay away from Shayo shayo and other mind bending substances.

can you do me a favour[/Quote]The only favor for you is introducing you to what is good, instead of the land of illusion that you are in.



[Quote]and shove your silly Islam up your anus and get the hell out of here,[/Quote]this is really matured.



[Quote] did i mention that i need the help of a Muslim or a Christian or an atheist?[/Quote]This is the religion section, while general or other secions are there. You didn't use them, so who are you foo.ling?



[Quote] what the hell is wrong with you muslims, Let God take my life any day i convert to your religion of death,[/Quote]God will take the lives of all; muslims and non muslims. so your statement is only affirmation of the inevitable. By the way nothing is wrong with Muslims.



[Quote]your mum must be really disappointed in you.[/Quote]Its the other way round; she is happy that I am her son. Alhamdulillah.



[Quote] Read my post about BRAINWASHING you F.O.O.L[/Quote]It seems that your doctrine is filled with insults and curses. No wonder you are preoccupied with mere deja vu. You better pray for guidance, instead of living a lie; deja vu.

^^^^^^^^^^^^ Olaadegbu and his pipe smoking gather around story.

Thw group that the vatican created by them being a shear from it, is the protestanism. Olaadegbu forgot that the fingers are pointed at his brand of christianity, but Islam which is an iconoclast of Christianity. Carry on mate with your delusion.




Muslims hate statues/idols. Islam of the father of Fatima [as to the messenger and ra to the daughter] destroyed all idols.

Even he Tawliban blew up big buhhda, big time.

to come up with "muslims loving/receiving' idol of somebody is a lie.

I don't care whose so called idol is presented before muslims, puff will its end.

i dont know which herb oladegbu stuffed in his get smart smoking pipe? It just didn't do the job.

Its the opposite effect we see.


Thanks for the video. I will share it with my jewish friends and other christians that the TABERNACLE OF THE LORD, in the Bibles is in the possession of the muslims. It is called KA'ABA in Masjid Haram in Makka.

^^^^^So Da Doctor never heard of an ever rotating spin wheel of one wife that keeps having a different face of wife, every few years? Donald Trump and gang of easy does it it women man.

So Da Doctor never heard of a one wife man that the wife is somewhat unhappy because the husband in always unzipped with other women? Hello Bill Clinton.

There are all kinds of people and marriages.

Catholics get fight to get divorce and marry another wife. Senator Alfonso Damalto; bon journo.

just because you do not have enough kashogi to be husband of more than 1 wife, and you dont any woman who is a realist is not the reason to think every polygamy relationship is a disaster. Jacob did it, if you think that Abraham failed. Issac with one wife, Rebecca failed miserably; talk about take the enemy of yourself and that of your son for your wife and his mother.

@Davidylan: « #208 on: Yesterday at 11:29:36 PM »
[Quote]Quote from: Jarus on Yesterday at 08:48:10 PM
Naturally, a woman will find discomfiting his husband marrying another wife. This is natural and I think pardonable but a Muslim woman should try to suppress it and avoid overreacting. She should, with wisdom, try to convince the husband that taking more than 1 wife is optional not mandatory and by staying monogamous, he has not breached any Islamic principle, and she should be careful here not to see polygamy as bad, which it is not.

If her persuasion fails, let her recognize the fact that Allah that permits polygamy knows us more than ourselves and we have to respect his injunctions. He should not go mad at her husband nor make the house hot. If she comports herself well(it's hard naturally) she will not lose anything. I am from a polygamous family and though Hajia Jarus must not hear this(and she comes to NL once in a while. Lol) it's never say never, although no short to medium term plans to do 2.

allah must not care so much for women at all. So he knows it is natural for his women that he claimed to have created to hate a family situation he allows?[/Quote]You hate being married or are you or you are too poor to? But Yahweh also created being hung on a tree. You hate it or you love to experience it? Most christians are waiting for Rapture as if jehovah didn't create death. They hate dying and wish to escape it through the never shall happen rapture. You, sir, hates many things that Jehovah created, including family situations; marriage for common folks and being unmarried when you finally have the spine to do it, opposing the unmarried Jesus.

From my siblings born of my other mothers are some of my best friends. My mother remains close friend with the surviving co-wives.

@Aloy/Emeka: « #222 on: Today at 01:01:30 AM »
[Quote]Quote from: Sweetnecta on Yesterday at 07:24:13 PM
@Frosbel: « #166 on: Today at 07:05:43 PM »The rule of the game changes when you die. Enjoyment is heightened if you receive the Mercy of God. Punish will be heightened for those who are in difficulty of fire [the worst kind of life on earth is really paradise compared to the lives of the people in Hell].

Imagine what comfort and security were to a baby in mother's tummy until he comes out and see how vast, the collage of worldly beauty is; the sight and sound, whereas mother's tummy is just what it is; water world.

Paradise is better than earth, if the best of earth is made to take the basic quality of mother's tummy. You can see why the best is yet to come for Muslims.


[b]More like enjoyment is heightened for only muslim men because they will each have access to 72 virgins [/b]while the muslim women who make heaven will be roasting because they lost their virginity on earth. Did Allah make plans on how non virgin muslim women in heaven will achieve 5exual ecstasy?.[Quote]Every earthly wife who reached Islamic PARADISE will be better than any created being [houri] and may even be better than the whole 72 that you listed and then some more. Heaven is different from Paradise. You and yours end up in heaven [there are 7 heavens; so which one is yours?]. Muslim women end up in Paradise. People in paradise are not "roasted", probably toasted by their earthly husband, or the one chosen [made] for them. Example; Mary the mother of Jesus and Asia, the wife of tyrannical Pharaoh shall be wives of the messenger [as]. A woman who made Paradise while earthly husband is in heaven [HELLISH Part] will have a husband of her own choice. A woman who was married to earthly husbands who also are in Paradise will have the choice from them, InshaAllah.

Everyone is created anew. Everyone in PARADISE is new each time of encounter. When Allah forgives, it is complete forgiveness as if one never was a sinner. Everything is overlooked, wiped off the record.

If you are a woman, Aloy/Emeka, I have to inform you that your heaven has not enjoyment. You don't even eat. Your human senses are dulled out. If you are a man, there will never be any sex for you, even drinking cold beverages in forbidden you, though you are sweating. The ghetto part of afterlife is heaven that is not Paradise; the suffer in such a non paradise heaven.


Most non muslims are getting theirs here because they know none of it is waiting for them afterlife.[/quote][/quote]

so mail4gift2 couldn't have resolved this simple situation by calling on his trinitarian gods, so he is now employing the knowledge of anyone; atheist and others? is your god so deficient that you couldn't have realized that just because you get it right sometimes or getting it right all the time, is just a matter of the Will of God, Who permitted you to be accurate. Not because there is anything about it. Deja Vu is garbage.

Often a times, I guess right the portion of the Quran that will be recited by the Imam in a Rakah, but I can't guess, all the time and i dont even try to because God is Merciful on me, so He lets me forget many things.

You need to come to islam, since you are a borderline pagan; going between disbelief and silly superstition that you created for yourself.

You are in Malaysia. Take advantage of knowing pure form of Islam instead of monkeying around with mind game, allowing Satan to drive you around at will. Deja Vu is Voodooo of the mind.


@Benodic; You too? Playing armchair analyst? You people must stay away from Shayo shayo and other mind bending substances.

^^ designers rarely wear their "top of the line", their couture.
Its not by force to wear HIJAB. It is a command.

people accept or reject command because of free choice/will to do so.

You are an apparent example; commandment to worship One God, by your free will, you have reject to worship in Trinity. See.

@Tpia@; Hijab/Kimah/Niqab, no one of them takes away the sensuality or sexuality of the wearer.

it simple making the place of expressing it, place and condition appropriate.

The outer garment is for Allah. the inner/under garment is your choice; plenty, little or nothing at all.

This is the best form of clothing options a woman can have. And every muslim woman has the option.

@nnw nigar: « #244 on: Today at 03:52:23 AM »
[Quote]Keemie, can you spell the word CHOICE? What choice do you have but to obey without complain, NONE. An-Nisa, 34, gives your huaband permission to beat you black & blue if you don't do as he wants, period. Keemie, I didn't made it up,its in your Quran, I'm so sorry[/Quote]Muslim women as spinsters have the choices to marry single or married men, while the only choice of muslim men have is the unmarried women.Muslim wife must not obey a husband who wishes her to disobey Islam which is her pure conscience, her essence, her womanhood, her person. A wife has the contract of marriage as the basis of remaining in the marriage, same as husband. She could for any reason institute a divorce and it will be permanent if she offers to return the dowry as a means of letting everyone knows she is serious about it. No other religion gives these opportunities to their women. The protection and honor of women and the wombs are from before birth all the way to the grave. Womb is derived from a Name of Allah and womb is protected and honored far above the father, the husband, the male.

There is a whole chapter called Divorce in honor of women, wives, mothers, females. There is another chapter called The disputant woman in honor of the woman voice; she has same right and she is not obligated to cook and clean, etc, etc, as wife. The duties of wives does not include anything the husband can do, yet she may just be permanently retired.

Muhammad [as] is our best example. Then his companions [ra]. Then those who followed them, up to 2 generations. Then a truly pious and knowledgeable muslims of your time. None of these will beat their wives, or enslave her. But instead, make her his jewel, the trophy of manhood, success. This is the way I see muslim wives, our women, our mothers, our first love.

And I am not making them up, but drawing from the spring and well of abundant knowledge of Islam. When you read the verses of Quran, you must read the hadith and tafsir that are to educate you further; source that will go back to the messenger [as].

If people beat their wives, women, mothers, females black and blue, that is not islam, it is personality trait defect, cultural maybe, but Islam. And unfortunately one man on earth doing is is one too many, muslim or not.

Reread the Quran. And again, until you get the true meaning, because Allah says in Surah Qamar [the Moon]; those who hear the verses and derive therefore from what they hear the best meaning are those have piety and true knowledge. What s the value of knowledge if it is not applied properly? Someone said a long time that an one that wishes to deceive may look at the number of possible wives to have as 2s plus 3s plus 4s and then 1. In his scheme, he may marry 10 and he may marry much more using the obvious loophole without observing the hadith and tafsir that give us better understanding of these very heavy verses.

^^^^^^^^^^^^^ This is sick and false since you wrote the below. . . .

@Frosbel: « #2 on: Today at 09:26:55 PM »
[Quote]"However, as it is written: "No eye has seen, no ear has heard, no mind has conceived what God has prepared for those who love him"--1 Corinthians 2:9[/Quote]The video above killed this concept here. Heck, Jesus didn't say anything about it. But Paul said plenty. I guess it was Paul who is the author and finisher of the christian faith. Consider he couldn't get it on, he must write off getting it don't.


[Quote]« #3 on: Today at 09:28:07 PM »

If your mind is on SEX and indulgence forget it.
This is a heaven for those that LOVE the almighty GOD , his genuine children[/Quote]i laugh in Ughelli dialect. It is God that design heaven, if thats what you call the place for reward of goodly efforts done on earth. If eyes, ears, etc have not experienced it, how do yo or any christian know the content, claiming that their is no sex in it? You don't like sex, why get married? And the sexual experience is the greatest pleasure known to man, woman.

Frosbel, you need to learn about this beautiful thing, since you are married. Or you are faking it with us, here? I pity madam to much. Ewoooooooo.

^and they come in both genders.

@Cougar: [Quote]Quote from: IbroSaunks on Today at 08:35:08 PM
@coogar
when u said "so she shud b a 2nd wife", u say that like its despicable and people have not done it and found happiness in it!nawa!!

that they don't complain does not mean they are happy!
no woman can be 100% satisfied sharing a husband with another woman. do an opinion poll in your neighbourhood, the results will shock you.[/Quote]How do you know that a person who is smiling is not sad but just putting up a front, or truly happy? How do you know that the person who is not complaining is actually have no reason to complain? No everyone is from your side of the street; Jealous and sad avenue. And there are women who are genuinely willing to share. 2 friends marrying the same husband is something am familiar with. And they are Yanks.

frustrated frosbel.

The emotion of the people of paradise is different from the envy and jealousy we have on earth.

And you are a father? When your wife was pregnant, you didn't feel how your child kicked when you touch the tummy?

When the baby came out, if you touch his mother's tummy, does he kick still?
If you touch his tummy, or any part of him, does he kick as when he used to be in the tummy?

The rules change. Allah removes envy and jealousy. The rules really changed.

whats the rule[s] in your clapping and singing heaven, which is not paradise?

@Cougar: « #175 on: Today at 07:30:13 PM »
[Quote]Quote from: Sweetnecta on Today at 07:24:13 PM
@Frosbel: « #166 on: Today at 07:05:43 PM »The rule of the game changes when you die. Enjoyment is heightened if you receive the Mercy of God. Punish will be heightened for those who are in difficulty of fire [the worst kind of life on earth is really paradise compared to the lives of the people in Hell].

Imagine what comfort and security were to a baby in mother's tummy until he comes out and see how vast, the collage of worldly beauty is; the sight and sound, whereas mother's tummy is just what it is; water world.

Paradise is better than earth, if the best of earth is made to take the basic quality of mother's tummy. You can see why the best is yet to come for Muslims.

if this is your explanation then i can only. . . .[/Quote]Laugh all you want, just like the people of Noah. Then the flood overtook them. At least you know that the rule of getting nutrition is different with Tummy via placenta verses on the outside via mouth?

Apply this to earth and paradise. the rules are not the same.

@Frosbel: You are in the cold, if you don't have an earthly grade of one of the accoutrement of women of paradise.

Is swollen breasts not what sells products on earth?

The dark bashful virgin lie eyes like pearls sell Estee Lauder's product.


You need the victoria secret angels; see how much david bowe is paying for less?

See how much naomi campbell is commanding?

You remember claudia sheeffer, the german girl of yester years?

Look at hollywood and see who gets paid most; the healthy women. Merilyn Monroe is salivated after by the best Christians.

You do not know what makes a woman, frosbel. Poor you.


This is different from the earthly donkey length and horse flow or heavenly boring clapping and singing. That is another level of suffering and smiling.

@Frosbel: « #166 on: Today at 07:05:43 PM »
[Quote]Then how do you explain the 72 wives in the afterlife  Huh[/Quote]The rule of the game changes when you die. Enjoyment is heightened if you receive the Mercy of God. Punish will be heightened for those who are in difficulty of fire [the worst kind of life on earth is really paradise compared to the lives of the people in Hell].

Imagine what comfort and security were to a baby in mother's tummy until he comes out and see how vast, the collage of worldly beauty is; the sight and sound, whereas mother's tummy is just what it is; water world.

Paradise is better than earth, if the best of earth is made to take the basic quality of mother's tummy. You can see why the best is yet to come for Muslims.

Welcome Mr. Frosbel. There is a lot of frost on the grass. And its not winter yet. I say this is gonna be a brutal one. Brace yourself for the Noreaster.

No one is better than Muhammad [as], meek John and Jesus [as] included, or feisty Noah and Moses [as] included, or mild mannered Abraham and Ishmael [as] included.


@Frosbel: I wonder who Papa Bush and Baby Bush copied?

@Mbatuku2: « #104 on: Today at 04:19:29 PM »
[Quote]Quote from: deols on Today at 04:07:51 PM
I can only pity you! smh

]But I never said untruth. Does Islam not encourage men to take any of their maids/servants they find attractive in addition to the regular 4 wives? Only they are not to be called wives? I have read islamic passages that say so and have seen it practiced accordingly. Disprove if I've stated what is not so pls.[/Quote]I do hope you saw that it was in the state of war that brings about maids/servants, as spoil of victory? No one is force to engage and men are encourage to marry them.

Interestingly, i wonder if you think a maid/servant does not need human emotional connection, which is marriage and benefit of man/woman sexuality? The slave and free hope for the same things humans must hope for. birds of different feathers do it and bees of different stings do it.

@Manmancho; They KT hecto 'macho' camaccho, many decades ago. I think livingston branble of Jamaica almost killed him then. So why do you adopt a loser name? No wonder you can't know the benefit of "quarantined'" relationship in a known sexual partners as beneficial over free for all rabbit or swine shamelessness.


@aloy/emeka: « #5 on: Yesterday at 03:50:45 PM »
[Quote]Quote from: deols on Yesterday at 10:10:32 AM
very good reply@ bhusayor

And I'll rather let him bring another woman into the marriage than be scared of HIV and other STIs.

There is no rather here because it broods bad behavior for him. Your statement above is a testimony of helplessness and a decision to choose the 2nd best option. I put it to you that you will prefer him having you as the only wife and will not like any competition from another woman. Scared of HIV and other STD's?. [/b]You think all the muslim polygamists have enough [b]harem that will prevent them from sleeping around?. It's not your fault because Islam thinks that the sin of adultery and fornication can be controlled with multiple wives.[/Quote]It is true that having more than one wife is a way better to curb HIV, STDs and or having bastard [out of adultery and fornication] babies of papas maybe, while 1 wife is a hard way to make every willing woman become legal wife [look at you still single, while suitor toba is chasing after muslim women, because he knows they are better]. The 1 wife situation is an accelerator for HIV/AIDS, etc spread across the larger sexual partner pool; it flows where ever an infected partner without border leaves his or her mark. Its like the fictional sword of zorro!

Harem, a turk's poor pronunciation of HARAM [forbidden]. Every one is forbidden to the person in question, except what he or she is legally entitled to. My wife is a haram to everyone else. Everyone, except me is haram to her while we are both halal to each other.


[quote]« #6 on: Yesterday at 03:56:42 PM »

Quote from: olawalebab on Yesterday at 01:50:29 PM
Who is deceiving who
1. A loyal and fafithful husband with 4 wives or
2. An unfaithful husband with a wife and many mistress and concumbine.

Why compare only that two?.  How about a faithful husband with one wife compared to a randy husband with many wives and concubines like Abiola?.Was Abiola not a loyal muslim with 4 wives but wasn't he sleeping around?. What of Sani Abacha and his escapades with women?. I don't believe some muslims are still delusional enough to believe that polygamy will stop a man from being randy.[/Quote]Muslim didn't say we do not have off the wall people among us, or good people among the others. The percentage of each is an indicator of reality. I was just talking to a christian with 3 wives just less than 1 hour ago; a nigerian, a chinese, and another [3 continents he has his touches]. I, inchaAllah will be talking to him about Islam, since christianity forbids having what he is having; more than 1 wife.

and the list of randy christian men, is a long long list of filth of creme la creme; Rev. Jesse Jackson, Rev Martin Luther King, President Bill Clinton, etc, etc, even GEJ with flings up to NYC, and OBJ, etc, all over the world, including the 'catholic' president of Italy. few muslims who deviate. plenty christians who deviate.

Ngozianu paraded himself as a muslim in islamic section when Gaddafi was slaughtered. It was a muslim sister who knew he was a fraud from beginning.
I wonder if the person he responded to about how expensive these Universities are is a muslim? But he will be viewed as such by Ngozianu, because he had said something against the popular concept of hear and see evil, but pretend they are not because it is about the "anointed". So say it is a good thing; a blessing instead of what it is; fleecing of NIGERIA.

by the way, which Lincorn Univeristy are we talking about in America that is a first class school?

because they have to milk the society dry; getting it here because there is none for them there.

@Mail4gift2: « #15 on: Today at 08:06:10 PM »
[Quote]I keep on wondering what makes Islam the religion of peace.

Anybody can walk into any church and blaspheme against God, Jesus Christ, his Disciples and even his exist, you can say all sorts of things against him and yet he/she will walk away you know why? because Christianity is indeed the religion of peace,[/Quote]There is a real life sleep walker. The brain of the writer above is already asleep. Along with his mind. Can anyone wake him up before he injured innocent people? Which church that is jam packed anyone can come out alive if he speaks the truth about "the liar and killer from before" Paul? I will like the man who made the statement sets himself up for a fantastic beat down if not outright loss of his life by dressing like some idol worshiper if he lives in 9ja, some Jewish Rabbi if he lives in England, or any western country, central, latin, caribbean, south america. Abuse Paul and let see if you will not be in an ambulance to the hospital bed or body bag to the morgue.



[Quote] do the same thing in a mosque, walk in and say the following words, Mohamed is a fool, a lier, a despoiler, a killer, a bastard (which i think he is), that will be the end of your life.[/Quote]The lies from your filthy mouth. Muhammad [as] led Jesus in prayer among others, since you can read from your Bible that Jesus was familiar with facial prostration. I wonder if I can despoil my wife, especially when she never complained or confided to anyone that i despoiled her? Bastard? You people have no shame. I see that you have unstable mind.



[Quote]So judge for yourself, which is more peaceful?

why do you Muslims fight for Muhammed, why do you kill anybody who blaspheme against him? why? why? why?

Answer: Because Moooooo told them to, bleeping muslims, may your all rot in hell[/Quote]If I were a christian, I will say back to sender. But i will over look your ignorance. We do not fear your curse. Allah is Our Protector. I am certain your prayer of evil is zero. From your cursing the muslims and my response, we now know which religion is of fire breathers?

@Mail4gift2 and frosbel: « #71 on: Today at 07:33:49 PM »
[Quote]Quote from: frosbel on Today at 04:45:29 PM
He did not die [/b]Huh Grin

So that means Jesus is more special than Mo.

Because Mo died but Jesus 'did not ' he is with God , while Mo ( PBUH ) is buried in a tomb.

Now tell me who is [b]the real prophet. Undecided

You will make a very good comedian !!![/Quote]I am a comedian because Jesus did not then, but before that Adam and Eve, etc including The Best Friend of God, Abraham, The one God spoke to directly, Moses, The one who fought God and man and won over them, Jacob [read your Bible about the fight where Jacob defeated every opponent that night], David that Has the best voice, Solomon who was the most wise, John who was the greatest Prophet Israel ever had, and after these men and after Jesus escaped death and had been lifted, Muhammad [as] the only post Jesus prophet; every one of them died. So because Jesus didn't die, these men who died are no prophets? By the way Elijah was taken up to the heavens without dying. And the death of Enoch didn't occur on earth but in 4th heavens, higher than the 2nd where Jesus and John are lodged. I am sure you cant find this bit of information in your Bible. And Torah does not have them. Ask a Rabbi.



[Quote]You don't have to argue with anyone concerning what you know is the truth, they will never believe you, i read someone saying we Christians Worship a man, what he forgot to mention is that, he (Jesus Christ) is not an ordinary man, there are three great men in the bible, two of them did not die, the where-about of one was unknown cos he walked with God, the other was taken in spirit and in person and the last died, buried and on the third day just as he told his disciples, he resurrected.[/Quote]Frosbel, now you see that Jesus was not alone among those who have not tasted death. But a man is a man, whether ordinary or no, mail4gift2. Jesus didnt say he will spend 3 days, 3 days and 3 nights. Anything short of or more than 3 days and 3 nights, the who prophetic statement is found to be incorrect. Please find me 3 days and 3 nights.

keeping on with your very short response as if you are hiding something.

while i have said before there is no reason to spill any blood, because people insulted the prophet [as] to his face and he forgave them.

however, will justice should be tempered with mercy, justice is bound to be metered at the end; by God Almighty, alone

I will not open my mouth against Queen of England when I am a guest in buckingham palace. I will hold my hold my tongue and disagree by heart.


learn manner, frosbel.

has it snowed in london, because you are showing the adverse effect of winter so early?

[Quote]Jesus is LORD and his TOMB is empty.

Can you say the same about Mo ( PBUH ) ? I think not.[/Quote]So when a tomb is empty, thats the proof that the one it was dug for is LORD? Fortunately, no one dug a tomb for Jesus because he didn't die. If he had died, he would have remained dead. If he had risen, he would not be walking the back alley avoiding the Jews from making a new attempt to kill him.

I wonder if frosbel knows that Muslims never worshiped the moon, star, sun, etc, anything created, ever, while the christians worship a man, and according to him above, gets attached with the cross in honor of a assumed death?

And not all mosque carried star and crescent of Ottoman caliphate. The mosque of mosques is Haram in Makka. Is there a star and crescent on it? What about the second most important mosque in Madina? What about the Al Aqsa mosque in Jerusalem? What about Dome of the Rock in Jerusalem that can be assumed as 4th in historical importance? None of these has the Ottomn Turk's Crescent and Star. Most mosques around the world do not have crescent and star.