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I know that you are a playa, mr. jenwitemi.

it is a waste of my time tlking to playaz. Its magrib. I will not bother with your single mindedness.

Good night, mehn.

@Benodic: « #12 on: Today at 07:28:34 PM »
[Quote]@ sweetnecta

nice one again. Human base nature is the stumbling block that stops one forming the discipline of drinking from the fountain of knowledge that leads to enlightenment.
Does that mean then that the enemy is not out there but lies within us? Shouldn't we then be taking the battle to our negative nature?[/Quote]Absolutely. The enemy is within; the presence of evil persuasion. We will call this the suggestions of Satan and his legion of army. They will not force you. But they argue against the good part of you, in effort that you allow the not so good part, in deeds and actions or speech rise up and dominate. It is always a moment in time.


[Quote]Have you been doing this? What results have you been getting ? I would like your further input.[/Quote]It is a struggle and its easier to resist now that I am older, based on experience and clear assurance that I will one day die and and will be raised up for accounting. I have surrounded myself with friends who have the same spiritual direction. This is a way apart for my experience that I set a boundary for myself, God helping me that this is my safety net. People know my routine and I have tried not to sway away, especially since i know what my tests are, my weaknesses. I stay away from them. My focus is my after life, while I get the best of this life, based on the resources that God provides, without any illegality of my own.

@Jenwitemi: « #13 on: Today at 09:27:07 PM »
[Quote]Sweetnecta, how can you and your islamic scripture say that your Allah does not need any sustenance from humans when HE clearly NEEDS their WORSHIP? Heck, he CREATED humans just to worship him, according to your scriptures! Is that WORSHIP not sustenance? If allah truly needs no sustenance from humans, then he wouldn't have created them just purely to worship him, for WORSHIP = ALLAH'S SUSTENANCE, man. Allah needs sustenance and that is through WORSHIP. FACT![/Quote]Sustenance is nourishment. It is very clear that Allah does not nourishment, considering the fact that Jinni and insi [mankind] are not the only creation. Angels are more in obedience, in fact it is absolute obedience. So are other creations. Only Jinni and Insi [mankind] that are given "freewill", so that worship is practicing obedience, and not because they way they have been programmed.

If Jinni and or Insi {mankind] do/does not worship Him, there is no demising of His Supreme Position. Worship, because of freewill is a test of obedience and there is reward for it.

[Quote]« on: Yesterday at 01:49:24 PM »
Deuteronomy 18:20-22(KJV)
20: But the prophet, which shall presume to speak a word in my name, which I have not commanded him to speak, or that shall speak in the name of other gods, even that prophet shall die.[/Quote]so the prophet who says in the Name of Ellah [Ellah, Ellah. . . was what Jesus christ cried on the cross, says the Bible], The Beneficent The Merciful, is a true prophet if Ellah [Who sent Jesus] sent him? Let continue Lappville.


[Quote] 21: And if thou say in thine heart, How shall we know the word which the LORD hath not spoken?[/Quote]we shall find out, very soon.


[Quote] 22: When a prophet speaketh in the name of the LORD, if the thing follow not, nor come to pass, that is the thing which the LORD hath not spoken, but the prophet hath spoken it presumptuously: thou shalt not be afraid of him.[/Quote]lappville, he said he will be back while the disciples were still alive. but it did not happen. what type of prophet is this; false or true prophet?


[Quote]BE WATCHFUL!!!![/Quote]Nothing was said by Muhammad [as] that didn't come to pass in its time.

^^ so how do you offer correct worship, if it is not through the tenets of true religion of God?

the apparent lack of its achieving the purpose and why people are not going back to drink from the sources of their religions, have the same essential reason; human weakness/weak nature in resisting what seemingly pleasing, but in truth ugly and dangerous to total self; the soul, the mind both intangible and the heart and whole body both known quantities.

what influences man to do evil, not staying far away from it, is the weakness to listen and then accept the suggestion of the whisperer, satan.

so you see people who in spite of saying that they are from a spirituality, are worse in some deeds than those who reject faith outright. Religion and morality are tossed aside when one embark on expedition whose outcome is termed evil, from the basis human instinct.

Allah says in His book [the Quran]; 'And I did not create the Jinni and Mankind, except to worship Me. No sustenance do I ask of them'.

This verse in surah Ghafir in the Ha Mim family of Surahs has done two things, if not more;

1]. A need for a way to know how to worship Him, being the sole purpose of our creation.
    that way has to be consistent from the first man to the last man, both in core belief, process and even in name to identify it correctly.
    that way is religion, which He had sent school of carriers of that way and its instructions, from time to time to human communities as needed.
    the carriers, being messengers and or prophets [as] must be practitioners of this same religion the only way to God.
   
2]. The fact that God says He does not need any sustenance from any one shows that those who eat, needing supports or given food to is not God.
    This therefore shows that holy ghost who is an errant entity is not God. Jesus who ate among other human functioning things was not God.
    idols who idolaters sacrifice to are not God. What you make with your hands or can completely imagine or comprehend, etc, is not God.
    what has logical limitation in human eyes,  is not God. Though God restricts Himself from doing something not befitting Him is not a limitation.

3]. Religion, the true religion and the false religions have many values; sense of belonging to a specific spirituality, a community of brotherhood with
    the worshipers. It rightly or wrongly provides a direction [Qibla], a belonging, a purpose and clear reason for life, giving meaning to living. For
    example the christians are not being charitable out of the whims of their hearts, but basing their kind gesture on who they take as their spiritual
    leader. The muslims have this same reason for being charitable, command from God and example of Muhammad [as]. If people can go back and
    draw even more from the examples of their spiritual leaders, using the spiritual textbooks as guide[s], the world will be more peaceful with less
    strife.

Sam xiu lee: « #2 on: Today at 07:35:28 PM »
[Quote]When you Rome act like Romans,when you are in Mecca or zamfara act like the people there,Nuns don't cover their faces if they do the french law will apply to them.We must learn how to respect each other laws and customs any where one group or religion dominates over 80% of the population.if a christian drinks alcohol in a sharia country/state,he is jailed.We are same people worshipping same God but in different ways,Islam,Judaism,Christianity are all Abrahamatic religion.lets spread love among ourselves than hate.let work and see more of our similarities than our differences,let a christian respect an islamic law in an islamic land,and let a muslim respect a christian law in a christian land.let both christian and muslim respect secular laws in secular states.if the french says they want to see your face to be able to identify you for security reasons please lets comply and if we can't comply lets live their land for them so that they wont corrupt our belief and make us act against the tenet of our religion. LETS LOVE ONE ANOTHER.[/Quote]Even if the romans behave like animals instead of humans that they are?

the keferi disputants are at it.

Aletheia; its the outing day, eh?

Satan finally revealed to T-T his place of residence.

Somebody is toying with aletheia's emotion.

Be gentle with him, because aletheia will break with the least of pressure,  if you shake him roughly.

He will always evade answers to real questions about his complete and adulterated spiritual pattern/way.

I gave the dude enough verses on Ruh, a title of a specific angel, asking him to dispute it and also provide the name of his own holy spirit, that he calls another go. Aletheia has been docking ever since; showing his face only on fridays as if that is the only day they give me 'outing pass" for.

I will wait for Jesus and he will die waiting, just like Jerry Falwell and the never to happen rapture.
Aletheia; read surah Nahl; verse 2. Ruh is  mentioned with the angels coming down by COMMAND of Allah. That is a pointer to how Ruh is to Allah; Angelic Messenger of Allah.

This is a good Spanish [Colombian] Tribal reaching out: http://www.thedeenshow.com/

One would think Mr. davidylan has enough knowledge of global finance, until you read what he says about a Sheikh who owns a business outright, and then collecting INTEREST on this business.

From whom will he be collecting the interest; himself, his workers? I wonder if this guy is not similar in thinking about banking to a carpenter donning a lawyer wig and representing a self confessing criminal?

Islamic Financing is the best type of Financing there is and a proof of that is the Islamic Dow Jones whose assets in the portfolio held did not lose any value during the still lingering recession/economic/financial nose dive.

If america adopts Islamic financing, the shylock bankers and their empty balloon projection of financial instruments will be a thing of the past and the likes of AIG, and Solomon Brothers and Bear Sterns would not occur again, and not so often, in almost a 25 year cycle we have been seeing.

I do hope HSBC that is trying her hands in islamic financing, mortgage are not going to listen to you, because they will be ruin in no time.


Thank God no one gives you any tangible to manage.

^^^ you do know that "disproving" the miracle makes you exactly what you have been called,

especially when you accept that a death occurred on the cross, while many will classify your miracle [the death]

as a complete fallacy?


I wonder if any magician who made a fake snake will say the snake from Moses [as] was fake?

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Quote from: benodic on Today at 02:13:01 PM
Now i am happy.
Some are finally waking up in nairaland religion section.
Criticizing another person's religion will never create any changes in that person but will rather make the person more defensive closing the person up.

More emphasis should be placed on how practicing your religion can make you a better and more loving person. This is what the world is looking for and not people that will preach one thing and do exactly opposite of what they are preaching.
I hope more people will take note.


I disagree, we must preach the faith and show love but also expose false prophets .

Many years ago , I was a sleeping Christian, carried away with the false doctrines of prosperity gospel , word of faith, claim it name it, fanatical Christian zionism , a believer that muslims also hold Jesus as a saviour and all other crazy stuff.

Until I picked up my bible and started doing some proper and intensive apologetic reading , I came to the realisation that I had been duped.

Jesus said in the last days the deception will be so so deep and thick that if it were possible even the elect will be deceived.

And you want us to keep quiet and let atheists, Jihadists and false prophets spread their poison on this forum.

In fact many Jihadists ( will not mention names ) have been actively proselyting on this forum, we must counter their lies and falsehoods.

Where we agree is that we need to ( and this includes me ) mellow our tone when debating with these lovely friends of ours ( I almost choked saying friends Grin ).[/Quote]You are still a sleeping Christian because you do not follow anything Jesus did. You are probably uncircumcised and if you are, it is not because of religion, but ethnic tradition. You are married and you crave women, children, wealth, and eat all kinda foods and flesh.

But wait a minute. I left question for your apologetic mind to answer and you seem to be playing a sightless man, now. Where is your spirit of apologetics?

^^^ Haha haha. If Jesus restored sight, etc, he did some by saying. What he said in each condition was long lost.

If the Bible is dishonest in the account of what he did, i wonder what else they are dishonest about? Think about that.

Note that the gospel was supposed to be recording of saying, etc and doing of Jesus.

When the doing was not completely recorded, even in the original language, but at best recorded in languages where what is used to record it were materials called manuscripts in other languages which were not his mother tongue, one will wonder if what he said was not also distorted.

Looking at the above, at best, the bible is unintentionally compromised and at worst intentionally corrupted to advance a different agenda.

I hope you marry Toba and while you are helping your own natural cause, you can put that desperado out of his romantic misery.

I hate to see a person that washed out.

marry in any way you want. after all as disbelievers, you are not obligated to have a muslim wedding.

And when i go to buy any article of leather, i pay attention to the description of what animal is gotten from. That is if it looks like ordinary.

But pig and its family of animals have spiky hairs, hence its hide is similar to ostrich skin, and ostrich skin is not cheap.

You can ask and you can easily avoid it.

Even America FOOTBALL that is called Pigskin is not made with it any longer.

Toba is beside himself in emotional confusion. Even your muslim supporters on this forum will not advise their muslim female to give you a thought.

Believe me, no muslim wants a disbeliever as an in law.

Continue to save money.

After a while some smart Muslim will come for your daughter, so that you can save even more money.

@Judek2: « #28 on: Today at 01:38:06 AM »
[Quote]Sorry for my bad miscoloring posting. Embarrassed.
Still an armature on this colour of a thing, Grin.Wat matters most is the message.[/Quote]Don't worry about you being an amateur in coloring, but in the matter of true spirituality. You seem to embody this amateurish quality. Lets explore your ignorance, below.


[Quote]And if you are still doubting that Jesus is the son of God,then u r just perishing for lack of understanding, im jst tired of convinsing cos you will not believe even wen there are thousands of evidence in the bible, unpopular verses.John the baptist-(JOHN 1:33-34). And i knw him not,but he that sent me to baptize with water,the same said unto me,upon whom thou shalt see the spirit descending,and remaining on him,the same is he which baptizeth with the holy Ghost.
34-And i saw and bare record that this is the son of God.,[/Quote]Metal scraps. And then the two of them disagree about who John was; John says he is not Elijah. Jesus said John was Elijah. Jesus said that no prophet in Israel is ever "greater' than John, while Jesus claims that he is a prophet and John says that Jesus is son of God [though his mother you people will not claim is wife of God]. Alas there is no tradition of neither water of holy Ghost baptism in the Community of Children of Israel and neither Jesus nor John was THE THAT PROPHET, while Jesus was merely the anointed, the last one among the Children of israel [Kings, Priests and sometime prophets were anointed in their community].

Who can 100% guarantee that neither Jesus or John is correctly recorded, without a thing changed or missing or added? Remember you are not using Syriac original words recorded in time of Jesus and John, but Greek and Latin some period after. This will be similar to the Speech of Nkemba in Igbo Language to Igbo people in Igbo Land, discarded for Swahili "manuscripts" of it some period later and then writes it in Yoruba language and give it to AroChukwu people, telling them that they can take the yoruba text and get their Igbo text [new text] from it, because it was the most ancient Swahili text that was used to formulate the Yoruba statement of Chief Ojukwu. All authentic igbo people and people of knowledge all over the world will laugh if this was accpeted by Igbo people.

Can the Yoruba text capture what the notable gentleman said to Igbo mind?


[Quote]voice from heaven.(Luke 3:22).And the holy Ghost descended in a bodily shape lyk a dove upon him,and a voice came from heaven wich said"Thou art my beloved son,in thee i am well-pleased.(matt.17:5).while he yet spoke,behold a bright cloud,which said"this is my beloved son,in whom i am well pleased,hear ye him.[/Quote]This was the event of his youth, say when he was merely 13, according to the jewish tribal custom of coming of age [Bar Mitvah]. But did you notice that the holy ghost here has a voice when he needs to let people hear what he has to say, even having a solid shape? I wonder what happened when the holy Ghost was the ANOTHER COMFORTER, wherein his duties includes hearing from himself and saying what he just heard himself say to himself to deliver to the disciple of himself? We find the holy Ghost being a no solid shaped and no talking entity here. How did he deliver the message, correct the disciples [i say they deviated into wrong premise after Jesus left, the reason they need correction, unless the bible is wrong], lead [to all truth, seemed Jesus didn't. what was that all truth different from what Jesus provided until he left?], inform and reminded them [of what Jesus did and said without adding or subtracting. seemed they had fallen to addition and or subtraction] and praising Jesus [what is the new accurate praising if Jesus was already known as God and His Son, or is it just repeating it, without saying it with audible voice which will be impossible?],


[Quote]his disciples.(luke.9:20)And he said unto them,but whom say ye that i am?Peter answering said,"The Christ of God.[/Quote]Christ simply means ANOINTED. and many anointed have been known among Kings, Priests and Prophets of the nations of Israel.


[Quote]The centurion,among those dat killd him.(matt.27:54).And when the Centurion and they that were wit him watching Jesus,saw the earthquake,they feared greatly saying,"Truely,this is the son of God.[/Quote]Earthquake? Are you for real?If there is any noticeable tremor of the earth [earthquake], people will run,just like they did in the past month in The White House when the epicenter was somewhere in Virginia. This idea in the Bible is meant for those who do not think and they advanced the story a little so he is now Son of God, not Christ of God as in above. Lies always have many edges in its repeating.


[Quote]Jesus himself.(john 17:1). These words spake Jesus and lifted up his eyes to heaven and said,"Father,the hour is come.glorify thy son that thy son also may glorify thee, To make it more interesting,read the whole chapter(17:3 to 26),[/Quote]Who needs the other; God needing Jesus to function as God, or Jesus needing God to even survive any period of his life and spiritual existence? You people will never stop to exaggerate or outright disinformation. And I remember the SONS OF GOD who came for the daughters of men. You see how ridiculous your advancing Jesus as son of God is?


[Quote]I wonder why somone would still doubt the true fact,just because it is stated in the Koran.(Surah 4:171).Christ was (no more than a messenger of Allah.[/Quote]What is truthful in a complete lie? Is it not in your Bible that Jesus said a prophet does not have any honor in his hometown, talking about himself? Did you not read in the Acts where the disciples said "Jesus who You sent"? Or you have not studied your Bible to that part, mr. Judek2? You need somebody to Jab you to spiritual reality.


[Quote]This is just an averse to what is written in the holy bible,it is abruptly calling snow white,black.And i realy dont believe that we serve the same God in heaven.Muslims must have an Allah of a god nd Mohammad his messenger,different from God,nd our lord Jesus Christ(SOG).[/Quote]This is where i see a bit of Truth from your viewpoint, considering Jesus to be son and God and prophet with a message to his people, then a Ghost as God and Jehovah of the christian as another God, while the followers of Moses, all the way to the followers of John accept God to be 1 indivisible, and even Jesus believed this as he had stated that his Lord is the Lord of his audience and this is One God.

@Judek2: « #27 on: Yesterday at 11:00:17 PM »
[Quote]Quote from: cisse7575 on March 16, 2011, 08:47 PM
itten in the bible that Jesus bought swords for his desciples. also it was writtn there that woes on those who claps and
the problm wit you muslims is that u dont understand the bible verses before u judge.
(luke 22).35"then he said unto them,wen i sent u witout purse nd scrip,nd shoes,lacked u anytin?nd dey said notin.
36.den he said,bt now,he dat hath a purse,let him take it,and likewise his scrip nd he dat hath no sword,let him sell his garment nd buy one, [color=][/color] even at dat time,dey didnt understand it.They thought it was to buy sword and fight the Jews.(Luke 22), 49- [color=# 990000][/color] wen they which were about him saw what would follow,they said unto him,LORD,shall we smite with the sword?
50-and one of them smote the servant of the high priest and cut off his right ear. [color=][/color] And how did Jesus respond to that?.(matt:26)52- then Jesus said unto him,"put up again thy sword into his place.For all they that take the sword shall perish with the sword",
[/Quote]And you didn't attempt to explain why Jesus said that they should buy Swords, if it was not literally? You failed to explore the fact that Jesus had said earlier that he brought war not peace, sword not dove, rancor between family members not unity. Further, he said that he was a king in parable [i know you will deny this, but claim that he is the king of kings when we are not reminding you of this part of his kingly commandment] that they should kill people in front of him for resisting his being overlord, while in his youth he showed not gentle manliness but rebel side by turning tables upside down.

I know Jesus didn't tell you why he said they should buy swords, but explained in the face of surmounting force that it will be fo.ol hearty to try to fight with few weapons. He was smarter than late Saddam Hussaine [ra], because he did not allow blood bath of his disciples. But then wait, if the one who lives by sword dies by sword [and not all have], what does the one who commands the purchase of sword dies by?

And you fool.ishly saythe pierced the side of hung Jesus with sword?

@Frosbel and Olaadegbu; [Quote]« #3 on: Yesterday at 04:01:01 PM »

Quote from: sarmy on Yesterday at 03:00:29 PM
Is every passage in the bible 100% spoken word of God

Is there some verses not 100% word of God

Why can't our church leaders & most xtains keep all the intructions in the bible if they are 100% word of God

If some verses of the bible are not 100% word of God, how do we differenciate them, why are some xtains equating bible as God

Can we proof that every single verse of the bible is direct word of God.

Pls my intention is to know more about the bible not to downgrade it. A lot passages in the bible are highly inspirational. Thanks



"All Scripture is inspired by God and is useful to teach us what is true and to make us realize what is wrong in our lives. It corrects us when we are wrong and teaches us to do what is right." - 2 Timothy 3:16


2 Peter 1:20 Above all, you must understand that no prophecy of Scripture came about by the prophet's own interpretation.
2 Peter 1:21 For prophecy never had its origin in the will of man, but men spoke from God as they were carried along by the Holy Spirit.


Ignore Joagbaje , he is a FALSE PROPHET !!
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^^^

Childishness , Cant you make a contribution without attacking joagbaje
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@froebel
I don't think joagbaje is wrong
Not every word in the bible is spoken of God, some are documentations
For example, when Satan spoke, was it the voice of God or are you now saying God speaks through Satan?
When demons speak, they are only documented but they are not Gods word
It's common knowledge frosbel
Even animals spoke in the bible days
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Numbers 22:28-30
28 Then the Lord caused the donkey to speak! "What have I done that deserves your beating me these three times?" she asked.
29 "Because you have made me look like a fool!" Balaam shouted. "I wish I had a sword with me, for I would kill you."
30 "Have I ever done anything like this before in my entire life?" the donkey asked.
"No," he admitted.


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This is what a thoughtful writer wrote:

"Never compare this Book with other books. Comparisons are dangerous. Never think or never say that this Book just contains the Word of God. It is the Word of Go[/b]d. Supernatural in origin, eternal in duration, inexpressible in value, infinite in scope, regenerating in Power, infallible in authority, universal in interest, [b]personal in application and inspired in totality. Read it through. Write it down. Pray it in. Work it out. And then pass it on." -- Author unknown[/Quote]So tell me how does "his manly equipment is like that of a DONKEY and the emission from this manly equipment is like that of a horse places itself in the bold; values of the Bible, if the Bible is truly the word of God and nothing else?
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[Quote]Quote from: Sweetnecta on Yesterday at 08:43:25 PM
One God is not yours exclusively. but 3 gods are yours, while hindus have more than you and buddhist less than you. all of you are pagans, though are aware of and claim, especially the christian the worship of One God.
wen a locust starts to decay,it tinks its adapting to the nature of change,.

I wonder how to restand a fallen wall with its bricks are already shattered.Ofcorse it must be replaced and built again with new bricks,
you are totall lost and i pity you,

Your points are vague.
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Quote from: Judek2 on Today at 03:31:55 AM
wen a locust starts to decay,it tinks its adapting to the nature of change,.

I wonder how to restand a fallen wall with its bricks are already shattered.Ofcorse it must be replaced and built again with new bricks,
you are totall lost and i pity you,

Your points are vague.

I was to say the same thing as the bold.[/Quote]Plap, you too? So you guys are denying that [I hope you can count?];
!). Jesus is a complete God and stands independently as God, not needing anyone or god/gods to do his Godly duties?

2). Holy Spirit is a complete God and stands independently as God, not needing anyone or god/gods to do his Godly duties, in the many creations he created or many ways he can create and fulfill Godly duties?

3). Jehovah is a complete God and stands Independently as God, not needing anyone or god/gods to do Hid Godly Duties, in all aspects of what the Duties of True God is?


@Judek2 and lappville, how many God[s] do you have above?

Darn hy po cri tes.

Omo girl; I know its getting chilly in europe. Blood may not be flowing in the body top to bottom and or bottom to top as it was in hot summer.


May Allah forgive me ll my sins. Amin.

^^^ So I will hope you will manage to do justice to these facts, yet nagging questions about Christianity and Biblical Jesus?

1] How can we be certain that the message of Jesus that he delivered in his Syriac mother tongue is preserved 100% since what the Bible is written from is the many "Greek and Latin manuscripts?

2] John 21 verse 25 says that not all that Jesus said and did was capture because the whole word would not have been able to contain the 33 or mere 3 years events. If there were things overlooked as stated by this verse, how are we sure of who Jesus was exactly?

3] If Jesus was the end of the line, why post Jesus writing [from acts of apostles onward], indicating that Jesus didn't quite finish everything, but someone [like the that prophet, another comforter] is going to finish everything, though you call him the holy ghost, while spirit is an expression for prophet [true spirit, false spirits]?

4] Where is the record of the another comforter, who if true, his job was done and completed on the disciples in that very single event of the day of pentecost, without any indication from Jesus that there is a carrying forward, if nothing is written down?

5] If Jesus was correct, should there not be known to us the wrong that was prevailing with the disciples when the another comforter arrived in their lives/on their head as fire, making their tongue utter correction? What is that correction?

6] What was the thing that the another lead to so that it is the complete truth, because there is no good thinking that they had that truth at the time the another comforter arrived, otherwise, Jesus will be incorrect to say a thing that was untrue? What were they led to as the truth and please point to the less than absolute truth that they fell into after Jesus left and before the another comforter permanently corrected them?

7] How did the another comforter as a non speaking holy spirit in form of tongue of fire praised Jesus, if Jesus was already know as son of and God and holy ghost all at the same time?

8] Why would Jesus begged himself [as God/father] to send himself [holy ghost] when as holy spirit, he was all over the place all along before his mother Mary was even alive?

9] If Jesus was the 3 in one, when he died as you said, does it not mean the 3 died for tat poorly calculated 3 days and 3 nights which are gotten from late friday to early sunday [poor math. a texan village idio.t will know how incorrect this math is since you will not be able to get for us in it, 3 nights]?

I will stop here for mr apologetic to answer these appalling "apologies'.

^^^^ Toba; Rule of romance 101 [even orientation class, not even prerequisite]; you dont ask a woman her age or her weight.

You wait until she gives it to you, if she finds you marriage material.

You are batting 0 for 9, striking out each time at bat.

No wonder, there is desperado written all over you.

^^^^^^^hypo crite woman. Aloy/Emeka; iro fo e nfun, iwo sisi yi.

Where do you see "MUSLIM" eating wild hog, boar, etc?

You need to get married to Toba as quickly as you read this message.

I think the lack of legal spouse in your life may be the reason you are restless, coming up always with fallacious claims against muslims.

Lo joko sibi kon, please. Its becoming a thing that makes people yawn to sleep, showing sign of tiredness, at least.


I will encourage desperado toba to hurry up and tie the 'unbreakable KNOT" with you.

That will keep both of you loose change [loose cannon] quite for at least till the end of the unforgettable honeymuuuuu n.

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Quote from: LagosShia on Today at 01:51:34 PM
this time i completely agree with you "frosbel".

we do have the same and only One God.but we dont worship the same God.and indeed God forbid! we dont need to worship more than One God or smaller gods like you people do.

no we dont. I'm comfortable with having a God independent of the islamic "god" . . i wonder why th. e muslim is too desperate to share gods with us. stand by urself.[/Quote]One God is not yours exclusively. but 3 gods are yours, while hindus have more than you and buddhist less than you. all of you are pagans, though are aware of and claim, especially the christian the worship of One God.

^^ You had to call the follower of the unlettered prophet to show you stuff in your own bible.

This is another proof that you people are completely misguided. no wonder Jesus of the bible called you fo.ols, adulterous generation, ye of little faith, [no faith at all. grabbing to all things false]. is that to hot for you, now?

John 21 verse 25: Jesus did many other things as well. If every one of them were written down, I suppose that even the whole world would not have room for the books that would be written.


I suppose you will argue that Greek is the mother tongue of biblical Jesus, just like mandike is the mother tongue of Igbo people?

^^^^^^^^ Allah says in command that muslim woman is forbidden to non muslim men.

thats your answer. what toba said is man made [toba's theology].

being a theist is not enough to secure a muslim woman for a wife. Islamic monotheism is.

i am inviting you to islam.

i wanna sell the religion to you for free.

the nature disposition of children is to imitate/mimic the muslim salah, he/she were to be looking at christian, jew, others and muslim praying, all at the same time.

imagine how comfortable it is to sleep in a fetus position/posture in contrast to laying dowing straight.

try it. and get back to ask questions about islam.

^^^^^^^^^^^^^^ heavy water [h30] of nuclear reactor or pure wata of poor nigerian invention? christiology and gimmick; die of sin.com

@lap; {If Moha is complete to you, so is Lap your complete name to me, instead of plappville};

To small mind, a story is one dimensional, with thorough process of arriving at whatever the conclusion is.

If Jesus was risen as Pastor Chris said, by God, we sure know that God is not Jesus.
In addition, and unless you accept shortened period of what makes a day, did Jesus fulfilled his 3 days promise even in a cave?
Please dont forget he said 3 days and 3 nights. So in plain French get me 3 nights out of what he spent in the natural dug-out.

Jesus was ignored by you because he said you should go to the another comforter who will HEAR GOD speak to him.
Then repeat what God said to mankind. And if you say it was only to the disciples, py attention to your mistakes;

there were 11 instead of the 12.
the ghost according to the trinitarians is God.
but there is no reason for God to hear from God, if the christian God is One God.

If Jesus spoke the truth and the ghost is truly God and as another comforter appeared to the disciples, regardless of the incomplete numbers of persons present on pentecost, that another comforter was to have audible voice so that his speeches were heard. But this is not the case!

And the another comforter would have corrected the disciples. What were their current mistakes when the another comforter arrived, and what and how did he correct them? Give us details and the words and matters of correction.

What did he lead them from that was wrong and what did he lead them to that is correct?

How did he praise Jesus if he was already believed that he was God and His son, while he was on earth?

What did he show them that Jesus didn't while on earth?



@Plappville; Sorry "Lap", I need answers from you. You have the burden of proof. Tell us. Show us a book where the recordings are lodged. I hope you do not forget that it stated that not everything said by Jesus is known and you don't even have what you said you know in original language of Jesus. Or did Jesus get his inspiration from God in greek and latin and not Syriac or a semitic language of his mother's tongue?

@Joagbaje: Pastor Chris didn't prove anything, but threw a question at the muslim, thinking that it is a must that all of mankind must go to/worship God through Jesus.

Most christians fail to realize that there were schools of people that have passed on, before Jesus and there was a 'That Prophet" being expected by the Jews to come, while Jesus defined the duties of "Another Comforter" with speech in audible voice to deliver messages commanded by God, proving that it is not a bodiless and voiceless entity [celestial entity], but human being with 100% Godly spirit we are dealing with.

But, should God in the middle of the life of mankind change His ways, even as we have seen that He had been consistent all the parts of His dealing with man? If God wanted all mankind from Adam onward to the last on earth to deal with Him through a single man, that man would have been logically arrived on earth prior to any man dying and not at a point after this.

Consequently, we see that the likes of Noah on whose prayer God wiped of all mankind and start man back up again with only the progeny of Noah will undoubtedly not need Jesus for anything. Same are the lofty position[s] of Abraham the Personal Friend of God, Moses that God spoke to without Angel in the middle, Jacob who fought God and won over God and the whole of mankind, according to the bible, Adam the first man created, sinned, repented nd forgiven, the sweet melodious voiced David that birds accompanied him in praising god, his son Solomon the wise whose ability to "judge' was impeccable, and many others including the old age granted prayer of a progeny Zacharia and his son who was "sinless', unless you can point to a sin committed by John.

Knowing fully well that Jesus said that he was sent to the children of israel and that the duty of leading to all truth is to rest on the shoulders of the future coming another comforter, it can not be possible that Jesus is the 'only way' for all times to God, except his earthly life, starting from the time of his mission, till the "ANOTHER COMFORTER" arrived to the world stage. Even the "Another comforter" can't be the only one to God for all time, except from his prophetic mission till end of time. Hence, every prophet [as] must be compartmentalized for his own prophetic mission time to be the only way to God for that time and not before or after, if he is sandwiched between prophets.