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But Muhammad was popularly believed to have been born in 570!

If you made a gaff this much, who will believe your making a woman born before revelation only 9 years old after 15 years?

@kurus; what you said about europe, was there a vote on it, or the decision makers pronounced that the official position of europe is that she is no believer in the existence of God?

Just like when they said they abolished slavery, many if not still slave owners just after the announcements, the kept servants and those who they under paid and then called all brown people, non europeans less than humans.


i hope you just didn't just wake up and have not noticed white europeans accepting Islam?

Pagan man, you are all on your own.

^^^^^ Adulthood is relative.

Some will say juvenile is the one who was born after Shagari was sworn in.

Others will say if you never saw Gowon as Head of state, you need not to stay up after 10.

Others will say if you are bornat the tail end of the war, you have no business claiming that you are grown.

Others will say if you didn't have any memory of President Azikwe, you are still too young.

Yet others will say if you are born after independence, you are wet behind the ears, still,

@Toba, tell me why i should let you remain up after 10 pm on a Saturday night?

@Wetu and Plappville: « #2 on: Today at 03:54:47 PM »
[Quote]Please, you are a muslim, can't you stick to the muslim/Christian debates?

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Re: No More Prophecy Outside The Holy Bible
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Quote from: wetu on Today at 03:54:47 PM
Please, you are a muslim, can't you stick to the muslim/Christian debates?



He just can't, his aim here is to prove to the topic that Moha is the prophet, or to insult tell us how Jesus will dent us, just wait, he will arrive at that hahaha!!
[/Quote]If I observe that it is either the Bible failed in its proposal or the Thread is wrongly titled, why Persecute me [borrowing from Paul]? Wetu, because i assume you are a woman, just like Plappville, please stick to the script. Women are very intelligent. I expect good construct of opinion from you. Simply telling me that I am a muslim, I should not tell the truth about my observation of the Bible is not good enough. Sisi Plappville, I am in good mood. I will let you run your mouth as much as you want. Tell me about the "THAT PROPHET" and who heard from God and spoke exactly what he heard, after Jesus prophesied it?

@Tpia@ and Toba; did i say anyone will go to hell? i do not have the power to safe myself and definitely i do not have the power to throw anyone into hell.

no one says people will go to hell just because they make their hair manageable.

^^^^^^^^^^ you need to know that this ummah is the nation of moderation. and it is one body.

every part reacts to the part that is the experience point.
when you disagree with what is Islam, we will all disagree with you.
Allah ties together into a single unit the hearts of believer. So don't be surprise my sisters are going for the jugular.

Wei mu noyin. we murun kurun.

can;t light be the absence of darkness, just as well?

some see the cup half empty while others see it as half full.

yet the wise do see the cup and whatever it contains useful.

has it started snowing badly in London, considering that we can't be sure of the weather these days?
I will not want the frost to get you or you get a frostbite.

So tell me when the prophesy of the old testament of the "That Prophet' got fulfilled and on whom?
So tell me when the prophesy of the new testament of the "what he hears he shall speak" got fulfilled and on whom?


Look out world, I hope you didn't miss Nabiullah Karim [as]?

@Desola; Sisi send me a message to galadimalou@aol.com
i will like to communicate with you.

^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^. muslim women 'attached to you'. ha. that will be the day.
you know nothing about me. if you see me, lion will be looking back at you.

NL is not even a scratch. abeg stay in your lane because i know how how to drive myself.

@IstCitizen and gregg2; « #12 on: Yesterday at 05:35:12 PM »
[Quote]@ OP,

Thanks for educating us. Please could you educate us further on the verses below too.
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The Quran:
Quran (2:191-193) - "And slay them wherever ye find them, and drive them out of the places whence they drove you out, for persecution [of Muslims] is worse than slaughter [of non-believers],  but if desist, then lo! Allah is forgiving and merciful.   And fight them until persecution is no more, and religion is for Allah."[/Quote]The bold tells us that the muslims were driven out even before they were instructed in the verse to take action. Explanation you need? The makkan disbelievers drove the muslims out. so the muslims have the right to now organize and fight back. Is that justice or do you think it is injustice?



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Quran (2:216) - "Fighting is prescribed for you, and ye dislike it. But it is possible that ye dislike a thing which is good for you, and that ye love a thing which is bad for you. But Allah knoweth, and ye know not."[/Quote]You will have to agree that this is talking about what is hidden, unknown like the future. Do you know the future; what will happen and if it is good for you already, but God does know the fullness of your future?



[Quote]This one below is the most scary.

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Quran (3:151) - "Soon shall We cast terror into the hearts of the Unbelievers, for that they joined companions with Allah, for which He had sent no authority"[/Quote]The soon will tell you that this verse is a future event spoken by the Revealer of the Quran. And yes, the disbelievers were frightened to defeat when Islam rose up to face makkan pagans. This led to their capitulation without a single sword taking out of its case.



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Quran (4:89) - "They but wish that ye should reject Faith, as they do, and thus be on the same footing (as they): But take not friends from their ranks until they flee in the way of Allah (From what is forbidden). But if they turn renegades, seize them and slay them wherever ye find them; and (in any case) take no friends or helpers from their ranks."[/Quote]While Yahweh told the children of Israel not to associate with pagans, Jehovah told Christians not to be unyoke with the disbelievers or Infidels. And we see Yahweh ordering the total destruction of pagan communities, while Jesus brought sword and war so much so some ears were chopped off. I am going to assume that you may be an atheist; so we see how the atheists go against established religions, and they do that with overt hatred. I wonder if they will spare the lives of religious people if there is a conflict, eg battle?



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Quran (8:12) - "I will cast terror into the hearts of those who disbelieve. Therefore strike off their heads and strike off every fingertip of them"[/Quote]This is similar to words and songs of encouragement to go forward. Have you heard of the Christian hymn; Courage brother do not stumble. . .  or We are soldiers fighting for the Lord . . .? You are not supposing that any human being will be left to be defenseless, if he is on the side of God?



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Quran (9:29) - "Fight those who believe not in Allah nor the Last Day, nor hold that forbidden which hath been forbidden by Allah and His Messenger, nor acknowledge the religion of Truth, (even if they are) of the People of the Book, until they pay the Jizya with willing submission, and feel themselves subdued."[/Quote]This phrase may be what you disagree with because any citizen of the society should contribute to the welfare of the society even by paying fair share of taxes. Even member of the unpopular sect of the community feels somehow subdued. No one has to tell the muslims of america or europe, etc before we know that we are subdued. I feel somewhat subdued. Blacks in america feel this way too. President Obama is treated like 2nd class citizen by a mere John Bohner {Bona for real].



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Quran (47:3-4) - "Those who reject Allah follow vanities, while those who believe follow the truth from their lord.  Thus does Allah set forth form men their lessons by similitude.  Therefore when you meet in battle those who disbelieve, then smite the necks until when you have overcome them, then make (them) prisoners,"[/Quote]Use the case of beautiful america against muslim Afghanistan and Iraq. I remember when the american GIs burned the body of dead muslims and calling the fighters in Afghanistan over the PA to come and watch or avenge this. In Iraq we see the many rapes and killing in the mosque or the saying in the public that Jesus killed Muhammad. You should realize that the christians think that muslims are disbelievers and the israelis think that palestinians are not even humans, at least disbelievers. The more powerful dictates what justice is. But God knows absolute Justice, hence Muslims are not supposed to rape. Unlike Yahweh or jehovah who told the children of israel to keep the virgin girls for themselves? If you were looking for ra.pists and the One Who allowed it, pick up your Bible.

@Babestella, Islam is beyond the boundary of 9ja and definitely beyond the north and it is beyond the planet earth for the Angels are muslims. Many authentic hadith demonstrate Jibril [as] as a muslim obeying Allah [He came to teach you your religion is one. Another is the participation of Angels in many battles against the disbelievers. Yet another is Jibril hurry up to perform islamic duties like making Salah, before human being. Yet another is angels making Hajj to baitul Mamur, daily. Do you have enough? Then read about the Salatul Ibrahim in Masjid Aqsa on the occasion of Isra wa Miraj and know that Muhammad led every prophets from Adam to Isa bin Maryam and them Malaika Jibril]. If Boko Haram is your example of islam, then you have been blind to others in the North and South West and East and in between who are muslims and completely the opposite of Boko haram. The morality of battle to protect your persons and the rights of others against evil and all sorts of oppression is over shadowed by people who [focus at the though one evil is one too many, but] performed by ignorant and or in spite of their religion admonishment against such deeds. If i were to focus on the evils of jews and Christians and Hindus, and Shintos, etc in history and even the evils of the atheists and the other irreligious people including the pagans, shall we be able to see anything good about the world? Yet we see kindness abound around us.

[Quote]Satan and mockers criticises miracles. So as to silence the power of God.[/Quote]This statement is good for explaining what the corruption of previous scriptures meant; Torah, Sabur and Injil were corrupted in writing by those who satan instigated to corrupt them. This occur as a result of satan and mockers want to silence the Absolute Truth that God revealed to previous Prophets. Alas. Alhamdulillah. The collective powers of satan and mockers have been rendered useless, zero, nothingness by Allah revealing the Quran and His safe vouching its Purity forever.

It is the Quran that Allah says He will protect. Look at what Paul wrote about addition or subtraction from the Bible. To proof that it is an empty statement, contrast Protestant and Catholic Bibles to see that addition and or subtraction are already a permanent feature in the Bibles. I have not spoken about the Ethiopian Orthodox Bible. That is another proof that Paul statement is powerless.

@Zataxs: [Quote]Posted by: zataxs
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@Sweetnecta the god who wants to get credit for everything and to be praised 24/7 talk of having an ego.[/Quote]Zataxs, you still they stand? somebody need to give you a good night Irene single sledge hammer like bone crusher-punch. Are the parents who paid the boy's school fees due the credit of paying the boy's school fees? You bet your bottom dollar.

Correct. I know one in New Jersey. Or was it natural, like the Indians?

I haven't been to Jersey in a few years.

I was thinking if Toba is keeping the tradition of James Brown and Al Sharpton.

@Tobe; When its all over, I don't want you to carry a heart that is brittle, fragile and fragmented like a broken China Ware. Pele pele o.


[Quote]« #37 on: Yesterday at 09:31:47 PM »

who is the OP decieving? Herself maybe . . .

you can pretend all you want, you can type a tome on the rhetorical "meaning" of jihad but from experience AROUND THE WORLD, we know that Jihad means deadly hate and violence towards anyone that wont bow the knee to allah.
[/Quote]And every tongue is not confessing and not every knee will bow to the son of man. That boils your blood. Just don't let it simmer like broth or cooked like some waste being made into fertilizer prell.

He thinks Jihad is a one dimensional concept. But he will take Almighty and make Him into 3 independent and separate gods. He forgets that Moses killed for an on behalf of his God. And Jesus was eager to do the same since what he brought is Sword and War and family divisions. Even Abraham in the Bible is a Jihadist. Listen to the Jewish Ribbi from New Jersey rebuke Christians.


https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Txu4KIdi1yc&feature=related

you do really caution yourself. how it will be if you do not caution yourself?

well. you are mature, so we are practically in the same range; adult.

I wonder know you know me so well? you seem to know osoo ju iya osoo loo.

its not a cliche, some of my best friends are christians and jews and others.
however, none of them is hypocritical about their position.
you say something when you think muslim women are putting in your hands.

when you get to other places, its another man we see.

can the real Toba please stand up and let the fake one vamoose, from either muslim section or christian section.

@Toba:^^^^^^^^^^ how can you say that you don't wish anybody bad, then you get angry enough to mislabel me?

toba. toba. toba. how many times did i mention your name? a hypocrite is the one who says what he/she does not mean.

To you, from the pages of your Bible, I am an infidel. To me from the pages of my Quran, because you are not a muslim, you are a Keferi.

Get used to that. When you become muslim, and its not impossible because it is God Who knows your future, you will not be a keferi, then.

by the way why your contribution about relaxer in the hair of muslim women?

Some men do apply relaxers. many or almost all of them are Christian men.

Lady Mary mother of Jesus was not the terrible proposition you made.

The remained a pure woman, after the birth of Jesus [as].

Not every woman got married, just like not every man got married in those days.

John, Jesus and his mother Mary were not married to any spouse.

A pure woman can't be a terrible name that you called her, mr. op.

The sex slaves in Nigeria and from Nigeria around the world are mostly if not all Christians.

There is no woman who sleeps with a man that will say it is the man that is in submission in the act.

I wonder where you develop your sex slave concept; or it only you who is not a sex slave in the act with your Oga?

This is not attacking you, since i am ignoring your false attack on muslim women and Islam. I simply ask question. So answer.

^^^^^^^^^ Make up your mind, do you believe that Biblical verse or not?

Me, I am a muslim. I can believe/accept what Quran agrees with in the Bible.

I can definitely disbelieve/reject what Quran does not agree with or does not mention contained in the Bible.

You do not have the same luxury in cherry picking of the Bible. It is either whole or nothing.


Your position with the Bible is my position with the Quran.


When you say that the Prophet [as] married a prepubescent, you can only use the Hadith to indicate that. Just one hadith while many many support the opposite view. with this video. Watch it:
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=4P_9ZXOGQR4&feature=fvsr


The verses in Quran about marriage support the opposite view to yours. I am inviting you to what is good. Don't be stubborn like a goat, because Jesus will reject you on the day God will bring about His Decision. Jesus will come to God as you and I will; singly, like slave, creature.

^^^^^ Real man seen, physical is SPIRIT? No wonder everyone who dies, it was the spirit that dies. I am amused. But I learned from Joe, already.

Pastor Oluwo apeno oja; here is your mate in belief; Disbelievers, both of you are.

I will leave you guys alone to fraternize.

^^^^^^^^^^ Who began the concept of rebirthing the soul of man, Adam or who?

Crazy Tonye-T. I forgot. Your boss, Satan must have told you this.

You and pagan 9ja are two peas in the same pod.

Carry on. I'm not mad at your Kufar self. Big Shayatin Ins/Rijal. Darn soul from Jahaliyyah.

Surah Araf [Chapter 7] Verse 23 uses a derivative of nafs {anfusana}in the repentance prayer of Adam and Eve. Note that they didn't say Spirit. You will agree, pastoraio that there is no way that they will be saying Soul, unless it is the same as the Ruh [Spirit] that was breathed into Adam; They said, "Our Lord, we have wronged our souls [ourselves], and if You do not forgive us and have mercy upon us, we will surely be among the losers."

Since Adam [as] was not mentioned to have a soul go into him, but only the spirit went into him, I wonder why it was the soul of man taste death? we must have to accept that soul of man is spirit of man before the spirit enters the body of man. read about the oath swore to my man confirming that God is his Lord.

So, when I have made him and have breathed into him of My Spirit, do ye fall down, prostrating yourselves unto him. Quran; 15 verse 29.

Then He fashioned him and breathed into him of His Spirit; and appointed for you hearing and sight and hearts. Small thanks give ye! Quran: 32 verse 9


"[b]Every soul [/b]shall have taste of death; In the end to us shall ye be brought back .(Surah Al-'Ankabut The Spider 29:57)

^^^ So let me ask you mr. egunjobi or you prefer osonyinjobi [awojobi has been taken by the professor], could you tell me if soul was breathe into Adam or it was spirit?

Read that portion of the Quran where the creation of Adam is discussed.

Then go to his children as see that all was mentioned about them is soul.

Then think a little bit harder than usual. Find for yourself matters concerning the issue of Spirit that was breathe into Adam and then the Soul that his children have.

What do you think?

Did Adam have Soul or Spirit?

Do the Children of Adam have Spirit or Soul?

Which one of them as a group has something more than the other?

Where is the soul of Adam when Spirit was the only thing breathed into him?

Where is the spirit of the children of Adam when all they have is soul?

Can you finally realize that Soul in the children of Adam is the same as the Spirit in their father, Adam?


When you approached a man who knew something, but didnt know enough about Soul being Spirit, you will have this wrong opinion, just like the Christians.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=_x5C5fLg9-M&feature=fvsr

there was no true prophet from God that was christian.

however because they force themselves on the true prophets of God in the same way they force their religion on Jesus, we can say 'their prophets", as the prophet [as] rightly remarked.

This is a very interesting video about the egyptian writing and Pharaoh and Harman in the time of Moses [as].


https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=_x5C5fLg9-M&feature=fvsr

and thank Allah, for my lack of understanding of what the church is all about.

i do know that Jesus never entered a church or instruct about any.

how Jews get baptized is still a head scratcher.

[Quote]« #5 on: Today at 09:26:01 AM »

Quote from: Sweetnecta on Today at 01:27:04 AM
when you don't love Jesus, you disobey him by ignoring is advise. did you reach that you should not abolish the laws and the prophets and be ready to embrace what the another comforter delivers to you of the Word of God which he hears and speaks to you, the reminder of the truth about Jesus, the correction he makes so that falsehood can be known and be rejected, the leading to all truth of all things known and unknown, seen and unseen and glorifying Jesus by restoring him to proper place of honor?

I didn't love JESUS by not accepting MOHA's false teaching? a terror, did Jesus said the conforter will come and terrorist? a doctrim of proper women abuse, despoiler, bombing, death sentence etc!!!
Jesus was so merciful, he told us about a conforter and tha's the holy spirit not Moha that did contrary of this prophecy. what truth about JESUS? that he couldnt save himself on the cross, or he was not willing to die that was why he cried OH LORD WHY HAVE YOU FORSAKEN ME islam has thses words to remind me of of the truth about Jesusas.
Plz spare me with MOHA! i am not a blind person.
I worship the only God in heaven the father of our lord JESUS CHRIST. Not allah of Moha.

u ve no understanding of what the church is all about.
[/Quote]sometimes i am amazes at the response of the christians. what do you love about Jesus when your men are not circumcised, when you women are na.ked except that you have the clothes painted on, don't follow the dietary law and worst of all say that the soul of Jesus is cursed for your sake? Do you think Jesus will be happy to know what you have made of him and is instructions? First he was not sent to you, a nigerian. Those he was sent to he found them to be disbeliever so much that he called them adulterous generation. Those few who followed him, they frustrated him so much that he called them people of little faith. From them we got a betrayer, a denier and definitely a satan arehouse [Peter]. jesus didn't forget to predict that he will tell you who perform miracles in his name to get away from him, because he never knew yee [never sent yah]. either way, Jesus is talking to you. remember that the nigerian church brother in strasburg france who said "i use this to hold body, until marriage' is not a muslim.