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ocelot2006: Hey buttwipe, are you blind or something? Read the darn post again, dickhead. I CLEARLY said the A-340, NOT the A-360. Seriously, how the hell did you pass your English WAEC exams?


Anyway, I admit that the plane in the pic is the Boeing 737, not the four engine Airbus A-340, even though it looks more like the 900/900ER rather than the 800. But it still doesn't change the fact that Enugu airport can handle the 787 dreamliner. Afterall, the 737-800,900, and 900ER are equally a New Generation aircrafts.


As for the Airbus A-360, I reserve my comment 'cos I know only 2 airports that can handle that large aircraft. MMA and Uyo. Maybe PH can 'cos i've seen it handle the giant Antonov hauling oil rig equipment.

was it you attempt to make a point or tell me that you're not so clueless about plane as taught because you suceeded in achieving none. Just admit you mistake and move on.

Pukkah: Why would a Minister talk in such a general and nebulous terms like this on a subject that's this important?

Why would a Minister choose not to quote figures but would rather have me check with the banks or CBN?

I want this policy to succeed but the Minister shouldn't sell us a dummy the way someone said the Ministry of Solid Minerals had employed a whopping 2 million people.

This Minister or another one should tell us in specific terms:

1. When the implementation of this good policy started.

2. The locations of the rice farms/mills.

3. How the government has supported the farms to achieve results.

4. The number of metric tonnes that have been produced and the year(s).

5. The exact decline in Customs revenue and to compensate for this, the (estimated) number of people that have been employed by the farms.

Meanwhile, it should be noted that what the Minister appears to have relied on - reduction in rice importation - is not a sufficient reason to conclude that there is an 'upsurge in local production of rice'. For example, have people found other substitutes? Have importers started evading duties? Etc

leave minister usman alone, he is delusional. How many rice farms are in nigeria? How many rice mills are in nigeria? When last did you eat made in nigerian rice? Nigerian is still the number 1 importer of thia parboiled rice followed b benin, meanwhile we can grow and mill our own rice. The thia people know they are making billions off this country so they continue to enhance their rice industry.

Below is a picture of yingluk shinuwa, the thai prime minister opening a new rice milling plant and testing the rice milled there. When will we see a picture like this of our president?

bobosydney: Stop talking like ignorant man. How can you Nigeria better than Thailand in terms of infrastructure ? You must be smoking Weed and Alomo bitter . I've been to Thailand twice and I won't let you tell me about Thailand that you haven't been to and the major source of Thailand revenue is tourism and not on rice. Man, stop behaving like a bush man or ignorant.

where did i tell you that nigeria is better than thailand infastructurally? Are you insane? Of course, they have better infastructure because they manage their money better, we are richer but have inferior infastructure because this is a nation of thieves.

Agriculture added over 1.3 trillion baht to the country's GDP in 2012, while tourism added only 71 billion, so where do you get your economic sense, idea or view from?

ocelot2006: If the hi-tech Ethiopian airline owned Airbus A-340 can land at Enugu as clearly demonstrated in those pics, why can't the relatively smaller Boeing 787 dreamliner? Do you really think the whole upgrade job was only restrricted to the terminal buildings and didnt include the runway and taxiways?

ha..ha..ha..ha..ha! You are telling me that plane that landed in enugu is an airbus A-360? For the love of God where did you see that? That is a boeing 737-800. Ethopia airline has no airbus A-360 in it's fleet, they only have two dreamliners and they can't land such expensive machines in this shanty. They are meant for the japanese routh. Lol.

bobosydney: I just think that your analysisis wrong because you can't compare Thailand with Nigeria in terms of facilities ,economy and advance Technology . I was in Thailand last year and i'm still going there again in December before I come naija. Bangkok airport is 15 times bigger than MMA and there they still having Air traffic congestion with it and the world class airport.

they are better than us infastructurally, why? They spend their money well. Where do you think they get their revenue from? Providing cheap labour of electronic,texile and other industries in the country, tourism, agriculture where they are the largest exporter of rice to the world, with nigeria as their number 1 customer in africa. Their GDP is in the area of above 300 billion dollars, nigeria ahs list 400 billion dollars to corruption, so what made them better than us?

t-something:
Perhaps if you reduce the hate in your heart, you ears would have been open to hear that GEJ isn't just building new airport terminal buildings in Lagos, Enugu, Port Harcourt and Kano , but he is also creating an aerotropolis ( this means a city booming with economic activities situated around an airport terminal. would contain hotels , malls , bus stations and other money spinning ventures . Am sorry I had to explain this to you because with your low sense of reasoning you could think aerotropolis means Police station for Aero Contractors )

Instead of dwelling in hate and complaining how the luggage cart is pulled by a tractor , you should ask yourself what are the basic things that make up an airport terminal?

Is there an access road and car park for intending travellers ? Yes
Is there a ticketing stand where you can get your tickets and boarding pass? Yes
Is there a waiting lounge with seats for you to wait for your flight? Yes
Is there adequate security at the airport? Yes
Are planes able to take off and land safely? Yes
Are they able to take your luggage onboard and off the planes? Yes

Therefore my brother you don't have any basis for condemning the airport because those luxuries your asking for evolves as a result of improvement to existing basic facilities .

On your comparison of money lost to corruption , you could have also complained that Obama should buy Ferrari sports cars for their police afterall that's what is used in UAE , and America has squandered over 3 trillion dollars fighting wars in Iraq and Afghanistan .

By the way we are still waiting to see pictures of your room and parlour and if it isn't like what we watch in the movies , then you're not fit to be a human .

aerotropolis? Really? When is it starting? Show me pic of a single bulldozer or drill in sight or a single pillar erected. Or is it an artist impression that you saw? Like the new multimillion naira abuja city gate that were're yet to see.

Funny that you outlined those things as criteria for an international airport, do you which other facility has those things you listed, an AIRSTRIP. If those are your criteria for an international airport then you are ignorant to what a international airport is. Where is the international transit area with hotel like rooms? Where is a mall were passangers can shop? How many cafe's are there if any? Let me not go too far. Go to wikipedia and read what international airports are today.

When didi ferrari cars enhance good policing? Do you know that the amount of cars police departments around the u.s spend on cars which gets destroyed in high spped chases will buy all the UAE ferrari. That was an incredibly stupid assumption or example to make...American is squandering trillions on a war in afganistan but at least their citizens and memebers of congress know where the money is going. Pentagon officials can account for where every penny is going. Do you know all the people stealing your money in nigeria? Can the national assembly or your gvovernment account for the over half a trillion dollars this country has lost to corruption?

Your final paragraph was too shambolic to understand talk less of respinding.

Freedani: Bros pls be sincere if not to humans,atleast to God that if these was acheived by fashola,u wont be dancing unclad now in your village market celebrating.but it is Jonathan and it happened in the south east where your hatred has no bound

i have no business with fashola, i don't live in his state, i did'nt vote for him, his policies have no effect on me. but this tipid achievements are by the presidency of the federal republic of nigeria, i live in nigeria and their policies affect me directly.

roxell120: yoruba nd stupidity! who is competing with who.the real point is that the airport can now render the services of an international airport. why this hate all the time. u ppl should started talking abt carving away frm nigeria instead of decieving urself in the name of one nigeria.

for the love of God, i'm tired of telling you people i'm not yoruba, cause apparently it's not registering. Tribalism is now part of your existence. Secondly, that airport is not by any level international airport standard. I have emphasied that in so many post earlier. And lastly my good friend, if every nigerian thinks like you, this country will never development. No offense!! Seriously, just read the last few lines of your post.

tonychristopher: What do you call that statement made above.... With all you grammer you can't differentiate a phrase, clause and a sentence

You need queen premier 1 ....seriously

when they start making comments like you, you know they have nothing else to say. The old coconut upstairs has gone dry. Bye!

olabukola: flight take of and land within minutes yet abj airport could not record up to a million passengers in a yr. I can now see that your hatred for this airport is not the standard but the location. Bro this is not healthy for you. Tomorrow you start sing ibo should leave Lagos now this is an opportunity and you are killing yourself.

Even Lagos and ABJ look far from an international airport. The bus terminal you posted is far far better than any airport in west Africa so I do not understand the sense you are making. Should we close down Lagos cos its not up to bus terminal standard in Thailand?

once again, it does'nt shame you to say a bus station in a country you enrich with your rice money is better than every airport in your country. Rather than demanding better. You are satisfied with it and defend more low standard airports. If the money spent on this airport was put into MMA, which is the gateway to nigeria and it becomes world class, won't it be better for the economy?
For the billiont time, i am not yoruba. I don't have to be from a particular tribe to be critical of my government. Geez...when didi nigeria get this tribalistic?

t-something:
So what do you suggest? We close this tight airport till we can afford to build the kind of bus station you have in Thailand? Then after 4 years you will still come back and complain GEJ couldn't do anything in 4 years.

The owners and users of the airport are happy despite how overcrowded and ugly it is, so I see no reason why you should have stroke on other people's happiness. If you don't like the airport , nobody forced you to use it, you can even avoid all Nigerian airports and take a bus to acrra and fly from there to that your fantasy bus station in Thailand. When you get there, you can lay your bed on the spacious bus station , even play football at the departure lounge and take many pictures . While you are there, am sure you will be tortured by the smiling faces of the happy Nigerians who flew from that airport as they show it in the headline news over there, so I suggest you ask for the nearest transformer , sprinkle water over it and hug it, because so many more good news you won't know how to manage is coming.


FRESH BREEZE ........................................... since 2011

your post was most childish but i'll pick out the little points you made and address them.
Firstly, i am not going anywhere or any country to use their facilities. Unlike you that jubilate on the floor because bread crumbs were thrown to you from your governments table,I belive as a nigerian, i deserve better, and by God's grace, if i try hard enough. One day, i'll have a government that gives me better.

Secondly, if jonathan just used all the money wasted here to reconstruct a new abuja, lagos or port harcourt airport, it will be a legacy to him. Right now no nigerian airport is on the best airport list and they keep building more trash to add to the existing once.

looker: You must be an idiot with no brain. We are talking of progress and you are here talking nonsense. I landed at Bangkok airport 2001 and it is not near to that picture you are posting. But ofcourse it must have been upgraded. The same thing with Guangzhou baiyun airport. People are not celebrating structure but intentional wickedness of past Nigerian leaders including your follow yorubaman not to allow our people to have an international airport.

first of all, i am not yoruba, i am becoming appauled by this idea that anyone that is critical of this government is yoruba. Is this how this country will grow? You breath tribalism. Secondly yes, you went to thailand in 2001 and landed at the don mueang international airport on arrival in nigeria you landed at MMA. Today if you go to thailand, you'll land at suvarnabhumi international airport, a state of the art facility but on arrival back in nigeria, you'll still land at the same old MMA which is not on an best or worse airport list globally. Is that what you call progress. Since 2001, the thai government realised that their old airport was not fit for global standard, anew one was built and the old shut in 2006. Meanwhile since that 2001 till today, it's still MMA, what has changed?

cjrane: Nigerians love to tell fat lies. Indeed, aviation is part of Thailand's successes. Their country is well opened up and they donot hoard international airports restricted to just the capital, Bangkok.Thailand with a fraction of Nigeria's population (60 million people)and a landmass less than Southwest region of Nigeria, has 7 International airports, all of which are bigger and more efficient than our biggest airport in Lagos.

BTW, Thailand's economy is more than one and half times of Nigeria's
Thailand GDP= $662.6 billion (2012 est.)
Nigeria GDP= $450.5 billion (2012 est.)

Thailand Per Capita
Thai citizens per capita= $10,300 (2012 est.)
Nigerian citizen Per Capita= $2,800 (2012 est.)
Source: CIA world fact book.

Please, don't tell ridiculous lies about verifiable facts to make a strange point!

let's get to work, first of all if you had a brain, you'll know that those GDP figures you quoted are gotten by dates in 2012 u.s dollar. These are the real GDP figures.

Thailand:$345.67 billion
nigeria:$243.99 billion.

These GDP numbers from a country that depends of tourism, services, providing cheap labour for foreign manufactuting and agriculture.
Nigeria's oil revenue:$50.3 billion(2011)
nigeria's money lost to corruption:$400 billion(more than their GDP)
money got by nigeria as aid:$450 billion(more than their GDP and double what the u.s used in reconstructing the entire western europe after world war 2)

thailand biggest rice exporter:nigeria.

So you see that nigeria has made more money than this country both lost it to the thieves you're supporting. We keep enriching them with our rice money when we can grow rice, and when the build better infastructure you say they cannot be compared to nigeria. What next, nigeria cannot be compared to bangladesh? Because this is a train station in their capital. Dakar.

PapaBrowne: Please can you show me one single picture of anything looking close to what you posted that any of your Fashola and Tinubu have done in 14 years that makes you and your ilk scream Eko Oni Baje. I need just one picture. Just one that look anywhere close to what you posted.Either a Bus terminal or a Hospital or an Office complex. Just anything to prove that you are not just one silly hypocrite with a grossly biased mind.


Or better still, I want a picture of your room or parlour. And please let it be as good as the beutiful ones we see in movies.

i hate idiotic comments like this, if you don't have any factual counter to my post then jist ignore it, rather than come up with this, who ever told you i'm in the APC or support fashola. Or is that your frame of mind now? That everyone who speaks against the president must be an apc member? Say alot about where this country is headed. intellectually.

CFCfan: As from the 2nd quarter of 2015, the new international terminal will handle int'l flights to and from Enugu. The int'l terminal will have the capacity to handle 2 million passengers per year (i.e. around 800 passengers per hour).

so why is this trash now called an international airport, if an international terminal is still years away in construction? Did the government lie or where they too stupid to tell the difference?

ocelot2006: Hold on....is this the best you can come up with to counter the points raised by me? That the AMTRAK is double-decked? ........good Lord, i've been arguing with an immature kid all this while. Pls dont even bother posting a reply, it's past your bedtime. Leave the thread for the adults.

look at the grandfather. You are comparing amtrack that operating superliner(railcar) to your governments useless cramped locomotives and you call someone else a child. Did'nt you read my whole post? Show me any amtrack train that look like that human cargo locomotive your government is using to move people. Silly old man.

http://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/superliner(railcar)

olabukola: you see the same line in Mm and abj so what's the biggy?

One question for you. Is this a good thing or a bad thing? I need your ansa

you see they same line in nnamdi azikiwe and MMA where flights take off and land within minutes of each other. Here one plane lands and the whole terminal is blocked. How does this "international airport" cope when planes that landing minutes of each other? Lines will extent into the runway?

presido1: Wow Ethiopian airline is now local airline cos it landed in Enugu. For your info Ethiopian airline only use Boeing dream liner and they just landed and departed so chose another line.


Before now all una mantra is that the airport/airline wont have passengers, now it has turned to overcrowded. The same crowd is in every Nigerian airport yet BA, AF, KLM and others are landing and taking off.

Somebody asked you a question above just answer him/her and move on.

my dear, what sort of lie is this now? Is it as lie or you don't know the meaning of dreamliner? Out of ethopian airline 60 fleets airplanes only 2 are dreamliners and the third will be deliverered this year, and non of them fly on the african continent, they are mainly meant for the japanese routh. Better watch your mouth.

The same crowds are in other airport were planes fly and take off within minutes of each other, what do you expect? This one, one plane lands and passanger squeeze in cue like sadines. This is an international airport? What happens when three flights land? The roof will be used as a make shift terminal? Ha..ha..ha hopeless.

olabukola: if they can land in Lagos I don't see why the cant land in Enugu. Yes am a typical Nigerian surcharged since child hood by wicked politicians that promise and fail. Why can't I rejoiCe when one of them promise and fulfil. Enugu airport will decongest Lagos airport and Lagos/ sw that is why am happy.

listen to yourself. "if they can land in lagos, they can land in enugu" it's like saying "if they can land in new york, they can land in idaho", don't u understand economics? Yeah, you are a typical nigerian since childhood who have grown customed to promise and fail politicians so your expectators and hopes are now as low as low gets, therefore anything that comes is great. You don't belive you deserve better. Symptoms of a failed society.

ngozievergreen: this is y yorubas are lazy.
Ask igbos how dey made it with 20 pounds.

firstly, i'm not yoruba, don't drag my luminated mind into your childish tribal wars. Secondly, if you want to make a point, write out an entire sentence one can understand, not hypothetical triffles.

olabukola: don't we want to decongest Lagos again? GEJ is helping us to send ibos back to east in a legal way and we are complaining. Sometimes it seems that we say "ibos go but at the back of our mind we are saying ibos pls don't go".

see my trouble o....who ever said i was yoruba. It's so shamefull yet laughable how tribalism has taken hold of the forum to the point, people now assume your ethnicity by your comment. Wow!!

Rossikk: Liar: These are Bangladeshi trains

https://www.railpictures.net/images/d1/6/2/4/1624.1238232909.jpg

More:

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/File:Jamuna_Express.jpg
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/File:Alco_in_Jessore.jpg

Oh, and Bangladesh also makes billions in textiles and tourism..

do you notice any resemblance between this new nigerian locomotives below and the once you outlined in your post that the bangledeshi government is getting rid of?

Look closely, they are the same thing. So while bangladesh, on the most poorest countries in the world is moving forward with mordern rail. Nigeria, gaint of africa is upgrading to their former standard.

Rossikk: Liar: These are Bangladeshi trains

https://www.railpictures.net/images/d1/6/2/4/1624.1238232909.jpg

More:

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/File:Jamuna_Express.jpg
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/File:Alco_in_Jessore.jpg

Oh, and Bangladesh also makes billions in textiles and tourism..

idiot: theses are new trains called demu trains bought by the bangladeshi government to replace these trains you outlined in your post. So why nigeria is upgrading to stupid locomotives, these people are upgrading to mordern semi high speed rail network.

http://www.easytechtips24.com/first-demu-commuter-train-service-in-bangladesh-railway/

bangladesh GDP:$110.61 billion
nigeria GDP:$243.99 billion

hope you infinitesimal brain is taking down this facts.

olabukola: that bus terminal is still better than Lagos and Abuja airport so you have no point. People celebrated when fash was inspecting second trains in Canada, that do not make it a worthless celebration so quit spewing rubbish. Criticise when their is need for it and celebrate when the need be. We all know noting is working in nigeria so that is why people celebrate when they see a little new development. If you are a regular traveller you will notice now that queue at mm check will reduce which is good as it will help the little facility their to last a bit longer. Enugu airport will create new employment for immigration and custom which is a federal establishment so it benefits nigeria by reduCing the number of unemployed. Your sister, cousin, friend might even be a beneficiary so why castigate this little development.

your comment is very disgracefull and proves that indeed you are a true nigerian. "we all know nothing works in nigeria, so we celebrate the little we see". That is the legacy you want to hand down to your children. A nation of mediocres. It does'nt shame you to admit that a bus station in a country that does'nt have half your money is better than the two foremost airports. Well, you all can keep fooling yourselves. Let's wait and see which foreign carrier will land their airbus 360 or boeing dream liner in that trashy bus station of an airport. One ethopian airline plane lands and look at how crowded and chocked up that cue is. What happens when planes lands at minutes interval?

Sincere 9gerian: Many have GONE from hate-induced STROKE. Take it easy.

Alot of people trooped to the airport to see, with their korokoro eyes, the inaugural international flight. That made the airport terminal appear congested.

Meanwhile, the govt is constructing a brand new N13billion international terminal at the Enugu Airport.

so those passengers in line like sadines came to see the inuagral flight with their "korokoro eye" the ticketing attendance also came too to see with their "korokoro eyes" that is why they have no seat behind a glass wall to work from. So your excuse for this disgracefull building is that a better one is being built with more billions, how many billion was spent on this one? If the billions spent on this one is added to the billions meant to be spent on the other building, don't you think a start of the art airport will be under construction by now? Common sense is now a privelage.

ocelot2006: See this clown. It's thinking like yours that led to this nation's stagnation (at least until now). Care to tell us the life-span/cycle of the current locomotive trains used in Nigeria? And do you also know that the NRC also procured new locomotive engines recently from China? All across the world, there are countries that use way older systems. A clear example is India that has a rail system over 100years old and still running. The Chinese equally run locomotive train system up Tibet 'cos of its reliability. 'same story in Northern America were the Canadians and Americans (AMTRAK) equally use locomotive systems to haul tonnes of cargo. So pls if you have anything sensible to say, just do us a favour and zip it.

you see how stupid you are, you are comparing two story amtrack trains with this nigerian locomotives. Are you okay? Show me any amtrack. Chinese or tibet train pic that is like this nigerian human cargo train.

May God!! My fellow nigerians are celebrating this as an airport? Look at the overcrowded chocked up spaces, no barriers to control crowd, look at the ticketing section, is that not a concret slab? No glass between the passanger and staff, see outdated luggage carrier.

For the love of God, is'nt this facility below, leagues ahead of this airport? It is owned by thailand. A country's GDP we trunce, infact we actually enrich them with rice we import. And guess what this facility is just a bus terminal, i repeat BUS TERMINAL...the one above is INTERNATIONAL AIRPORT......Chei my country, in the midst of plenty, you are now so hungry, rotten bread given to you is course to celebrate.

These are new locomotives in nigeria which gets billions in oil and gas revenue annualy and new trains in bangladesh, one of the world's poorest countries, which produces cheap labour for foreign clothing companies.

stillwater: I hope you won't complain when more people troop into Lagos. That is what you get when you hoard major infrastructure for over 160 million people in one place.

do 160 million people travel by air? Three state of the art, globally recognised international airport in lagos, port harcourt and abuja is better than 36 chicken pens called airport in every nigerian.

Tusky44: He is a wise man and once re-elected in 2015, GEJ will surely go for the oil thieves and fuel import fraudsters.

why not stop them now? Are they too powerfull or he needs their donation plus support in 2015?

Please tell mr president to revitalize our refineries and build new once so that thieves in this country will stop making money from fuel importation and subsidies. A country among the top 10 producers of oil in the world should'nt be importing petrol.

theoctopus: You sound way too childish. You aint worth my time

another of running away with your tail between your legs.