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dexentity:
Go to the north and see for yourself, no rely on dem say dem say. Re-read what i posted, this time slowly, and who told you yorubas don't trade, who told you there are no yorubas in S/G, who told you trading is the only occupation in kano. Most of the ibos that has been to Kano stayed in S/G, so it is easy for them to conclude on the population of igbos vs yorubas going by what they see in S/G, but they are wrong. Leave your conclave, move around, kano is big.

Visit places like mariri, samiya boka, hotoro, nassarawa, anguwa uku, ibrahim taiwo, fagge, kabuga, kurna, brigade, sabon titi, gyadi gyadi, hadeija road, and a lot of other areas and see the teeming yoruba population there. We stay with the host, we don't segregate. You guys have to stop this blatant lies, it wouldn't change the facts on ground. Done replying quotes.

You are done replying quotes because you know you're lying. Corn business have taken me into the core villages in the north so you're the person that needs to travel.
The reason I am quoting you out of many others is that your own lies is outstanding and you quite know its a lie. Population of Igbos in Kano is far larger with a very wide margin than that of the yorubas, if it is close margin, I wouldn't have quote you because I will take it as blind argument but its not even close.

dexentity:
If you stay in kano as you claim then you yourself know you are lying. Yorubas stays in all areas in kano, and they work in almost all the sectors and they trade too. Our pattern of settlement anywhere suggests that we fear nothing from our host, unless maybe in the east. We don't need any sabon gari anywhere else in the world. You wouldn't know yoruba houses since we are not restricted to build in a certain place, so we build all over.

Your everyday life all across the state you meet the yorubas, in hospitals, as doctors, nurses, care givers, in banks as bankers e.t.c , in schools as teachers/lecturers, students, etc. In the construction companies, talk about Oil business in hotoro. In the market, go to kofar wombai, s/g market, kori markets, e.t.c and see them.

Go to the schools too, ibo life in kano is all about sabon gari, the vicinity and trading in markets. Yorubas are way more than igbos in the kano and the north entirely.

Your case is a clear example of self deceit. You know and will always know that the numbers of igbos in kano is bigger than that of the yorubas but you choose to tell yourself bareface lies. Anybody that have been to kano won't even argue this for 10secs but you're here telling lies and feeling good about it. if yorubas are found at schools,hospital and bank staff how many numbers of these staffs can compete with the number of igbos at sabon gari? since you people are not traders tell me where one can found large percentage of Yoruba and what they are doing to survive in kano.

Pidgin2:
Ancient civilization started in Africa, your fore father's lived better than you are doing now with all your western technology

You cannot lecture me on anything that has to do with technology, ancient civilization started in some parts of Africa does not mean that ancient technology is better than modern technology. Technology can never be stagnant, it evolves and it doesn't change to be worst rather it changes to the benefit of mankind. No matter how you choose to defend mediocrity from our leaders you can never compare civilization of yesterday to the one we have today. Until you give examples of how my forefathers live better than me, you have not made any point.

Pidgin2:
It's not about love, stop weeping for Naija when you don't know what you are worth.

All you guys do is to post nonsense on social media, always thinking that the grass is greener at every other end, imagine someone saying Syria is better, chai

Let me tell you, you don't know the freedom you have as a Nigerian, go and ask those in North Korea, also if you can look inwards we have available cheap land for agriculture, we have 36states here and you can chose and pick anyone that fits your budget and other needs. You do not need light for your crops to grow and your animals to reproduce, only lazy people rely on western knowledge for survival, did your fore fathers have light 24hrs were they not comfortable?

What do you mean by unavailability of water, did anyone ask you not to dig the ground for water or will you wait for government to set up irrigation system in your farm? Chai, you guys are toxic

Because of this desires for Western technology your ancestors were sold out for a bottle of brandy. Learn to appreciate your own

Madam, I never wanted to join in your argument but this your excuse caught my attention. So you mean Nigeria don't deserve development and we should live like our forefathers? what are you even doing with a phone since we should farm and live like our grandfathers? in this age and time you're openly supporting corruption of our leaders by encouraging subsistence farming just because you're defending your country?

mapet:
You do not need to wait till they finish dredging to make a lucid and well articulated argument. From your arguement, I see that you are so ill-informed.

Ajaokuta to Bayelsa? Haba? Do you think this is child's play? What is the volume of business in Bayelsa today or projected 30yrs that they will direct such resources to and ignore Onitsha, a commercial hub of the East?

wrt the links, I think the issue is with you not comprehending. It's this simple. They need $2b in total. That $2b will involve equity contributions of both government and private sector participant who the plant is concessioned to. Besides the $2b will not be raised in one single year, simple project economics tells you that capital outlay may be spread over 3-5yrs.

I think you should go find out about the state of the plant, how Y'Ardua's govt concessioned it to an Indian firm, how GEJ cancelled the concession arrangement, how the Indians went to court and nobody was able to run the plant....to how the current govt has just settled out of court to allow the Indians return back on renegotiated terms.

I thought you know the coastline and I am here arguing with you. dredging from ajaokuta to bayelsa also means that Onitsha coastline is inclusive, you're the person who is ill informed .
You're know quoting how to raise and details in the $2b but I see non of it in the Newsline.

adimsmt:
Please stop the name calling my people are not greedy nor selfish, Orlu is the largest senatorial district in Imo state and in that they deserves the larger potion of the state resources, but haven't said that they are not demanding to be equal in capital projects with the capital city all they want from Okorocha is for him to complete the projects he started of which some of the projects has been abandoned going four/five years is there anything wrong with that? just going to Orlu and see for yourself.

if I don't know orlu I won't be quoting you . Rochas built many dual roads at orlu even some of the inner streets are dual lane, make Una just manage am like that because many Nigerian cities don't even have that at least he have patched up the remaining part of uncompleted st Joseph road at orlu.
though the standard of those roads are questionable but make Una manage .

Hage:
Egypt's canal links the Mediterranean Sea to the Red Sea: two massive water bodies. This is not the case with River Niger.

Suez canal and other big canals alike are built for the sole purpose of linking two body waters. I just gave the guy what Egyptians (Africa) army are doing to better the economy of their country. I don't want to give him other examples because they are not in Africa. Go and check one of the busiest port is built on a river . We have some rivers smaller than river Niger with big and busy ports. I just attacked the political jobber because in this 21st century you don't neglect what can be achieved/solved easily with technology.



And pls I am not demanding that river should be dredge because of port because Nigeria have other pressing matters to solved.

mapet:
1. Stop turning logic on its head. The objective for dredging in this case is clear and your wrong interpretation was pointed out by people, yet you are feigning that you're misinterpreted

2. The route is idle? why do you think the objective to dredge in the first place? Do you dredge because of previous patterns or prospects and future potential? If not dredge now, when do you expect? Ajaokuta is not up and running, but would you rather it stays moribund and we continue with importation, despite good reserves of Iron ore and a plant to boot? Ajaokuta is one of the prospect of opening up the axis and continous dredging will enable future commerce opportunities, be it steel, exchange of trade (import and export), in-land movement of goods and many other things. It is interesting to note that you can only understand human movement, which has virtually no bearing to the dredging objective

3. You are asking for link? Even the one given to you, you misinterpret. There is a clear difference between a single year's budget, govt contribution to total cost of projects and operating model. How you brought 3 links to mumble all together beats rational imagination

I will quote you when they are done dredging but know that my argument was based on the route they are about to dredge is thoughtless. if they are to dredge from that ajaokuta to bayelsa then I will know they mean business. Once again all the links I provided is saying otherwise from what you're saying. after the single year budget they are yet to get the required $2b that is needed to run the steel company abi did any of the link say that government have make provision for $2b ?

mapet:
1. This is simply an escapist approach from you. You first laid a false assertion that Ajokuta was dead and also followed with an ignorant submission that the dredging was because of human movement.
2. For want of any credible defence, you muddle things up. The links you submitted are what? I guess you didn't read them yourself, else you would have known the difference between a 2017 budget for Ajaokuta, as against an amount required to make it fully functional and that also different from the provision for operationalisation of the mill. But that said, how does this your recent submission support the fact that Ajaokuta steel mill is dead as you earlier stated?

You're trying to rope me into what I am against.... read all my post in this thread, I never said that the route is for human movement. people who are familiar with that river Niger route will know that its idle both for goods/human movement. the route people make use of is the delta-rivers-bayelsa route which I even give reasons.

I was expecting you to throw me another link where the ajaokuta steel industry is up and running but alas you came bringing long theories which doesn't disqualify my claim that ajaokuta is nothing but promise and failed project.

Tag me whenever the project is ready.

mandax:
So Gov. Okorocha knew that state govt can construct federal projects and ask fed. govt for refunds?


Since Okorocha became governor, the Imo state Section of Ihialla-Orlu Federal road crumbled, nearly impassable. FERMA is only on repair, not reconstruction, job now.

For six years, the failed road paralyzed business in lgas of Orsu, Orlu, Ideators, Njaba, Nkwerre, Nwangele, etc, - more than 2.5 million people rendered useless.

Orlu goes to Onitsha, not to Owerri, for business

Now our governor is building federal airport. How NOT to govern a state.

You people from orlu are very greedy and selfish, Thank God we don't practice this type of sectional government in anambra where one particular greedy side will be whining for their area to be equal in development with the capitail . the orsu orlu oru east part of this road is seriously undergoing rehabilitation so be up to date with info before condemning what you don't know.

mapet:
Are you making factual statements or beer-parlour analysis?

You have lived in Nigeria enough to know that anytime you see...
Government to
Government will
Government shall
then know you they are not serious..
this is the link where they promised us steady power supply....https://www.nairaland.com/3765798/toolz-shares-newspaper-headline-promised

Your news is dated back in January but in Feb , your dear minister change amount and tune....http://icirnigeria.org/ajaokuta-steel-complex-to-gulp-2-billion/ probably he was hoping to get a share cut from buhari's $30 billion loan.

When he noticed the loan is a pipe dream he changes his tune
after swallowing #6.2b .....https://www.thisdaylive.com/index.php/2017/03/17/ajaokuta-steel-company-to-function-as-private-entity-says-fayemi/



They equally promised they will deliver the steel second quarter of this year.....

mapet:
Bros Slow down......

1. The dredging is geared to increase primarily movement of goods and products and not you.
2. Onitsha - Ajaokuta becomes strategic, if we are trying to resuscitate and boost our steel industry for starters

Bros the steel industry you're using as reference is dead and no plan of waking is being made. dredging won't equally make it alive because the two does not align. read my post again to understand my point which answer your first question/reply point.

Yusufmanusman:
Some people are ignorant. Why abuse satan itself.

Is Satan your father,brother or uncle? pls face front.

Schematics:
It is not about humanbeing travelling on the route but about goods/servies, agricultural products etc. The value chain of the route cannot be over-emphasised.

Nwanne let me tell you one thing. as I have said earlier nobody will want to ferry his goods along that route because of insecurity and unsafeness of Nigerian waterways. the only traders/passengers making use of that river Niger route are traders from bayelsa and some parts of delta state who live in the riverine areas. and those users ride in the same boat with oil dealers who come to sell their product at ose nku along Niger street at Onitsha, those boats ferrying kerosene and gas won't go back empty as they will equally buy goods from Onitsha before going back to their base. Go and check no big boat has ever cross Onitsha going to kogi side of river Niger.

Schematics:
At least this route can connect Onitsha directly to the FCT.

From Onitsha to Ajakota is a useless route to be dredged by fg. I can't imagine traveling from Onitsha to nsugbe on a boat even if it's a speed boat. who and who is going to travel from Onitsha to okene on boat? when GUO, GIGM and other transport companies are there. Nobody can agree to ferry his/her goods through that waterways. Nigerian waterways are still unsafe and underdeveloped.

useless routes are to be dredged. what is the economic importance of this ajakota to Onitsha? instead of Nigerian government investing in electricity, they are awarding contract of no means to pack money in their private homes.

SuperS1Panther:
This validates what we have always been saying, which some emotional bush babies were crying about.

No matter the dredging, ship cannot enter that water body. It is only barges that can.

You're just a product of this failed and devilish country who believed and worship only what you're most preferred useless politician vomits. In this 21st century you believe no amount of dredging in the river niger can allow the passing of big ships and vessels? while the Egyptians army are building their second canal that will ferry even the biggest vessel in the world.

Nigeria is just too bad and will be too hot for Satan to manage.

Nigeria is now on auto pilot and nobody is saying anything about it. since 2006 all the catholic diocese have mandated that a prayer for the better Nigeria should be recite in every mass even morning mass , but since then we have not have peace as a nation. From Obj stealing $16billion meant for electricity to Gej stealing $21 billion with that frog eyed woman, and now we are suffering in the hands of a Fulani man who is so tribalistic and vindictive to rule a diverse nation like Nigeria, people are being killed everyday recklessly without remorse, as a matter of fact, sudden death and reckless death now means nothing to an average Nigeria. Politicians are now stealing but you will see jobless youths and poor youths supporting them because of what they will get in return or due to tribal relation.

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Nigeria how do we get here? and when are we going to free ourselves from being in darkness created by our selfish leaders.

They are acting that way because the person at the helm of affairs is so tribalistic and wicked. he is a leader who cares only about his bloodsucking brothers who always unleash terror across the nation.


We just have some bastard youths supporting their terror activities online. That's why we are not progressing as a country.
21st century my country cannot maintain 5hours constant electricity when they have all the sources of electricity abundantly .. hydro,gas,turbine,coal and so many others.

Obiano paid posters are coming for your head. when I was complaining that anambra always elect bad leaders because the citizens are not always interested in voting, budahmonk and one stupid man called odenigboaroli will always attack me calling me or sort of names. Just look at our state and compare it with other states that was created the same year with us, you will see that anambra is far behind in some certain areas. Anambra have the economy but building a benefitting capital is very hard for them, common town planning to avoid chaotic building of houses which causes road/drainage blockage is very hard for Ansg.

ruggedized1:
Nwokem mechionu ure gi there. What you don't know try and seek for knowledge. You are just a school boy that knows next to nothing about what is happening except that you are still putting up with your parents.

Read more about the company executing the project and stop being a nuisance and joining bandwagon of bitter people. I hope you will still come back here when the project is completed in record time

Read more about the company from their website:- http://www.avic-apc.com/a/64/


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OK let's wait till then.
but I am yet to see the render of the project.

ruggedized1:
I hope you shall commit suicide if it is built in 2yrs?


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chino you know that all these nonsense are mere fantasies. stop being emotional with your job because obiano will come and go.

BigIyanga:
because your infested encephalon does not know about the powers and limitations of FG vs governors. Enugu is the 4th busies airport in Naija funded and managed by FG..and FG picks and chooses who lands at what airport. Obiano and co cannot change this fact!!
I know you failed govt in sec school, go back to the School of Google to get schooled.

You are not the only person with a different idea, just leave this political jobbers to their bloody fantasies. they are being paid for all these comments but you're just wasting your time because you don't earn any dime by replying them.

I pray the almighty will keep us all alive just for the next 2 years, you will see that the so called airport site will be littered with spoilt and abandoned bulldozers .

Obiano can not complete a half done substandard road that leads to the biggest market in west Africa that was started by peter obi but he wants to construct a dual carriageway from all the three big cities to his village illusional airport scam.

Dp

Billyonaire:
If you cant beat them join them then.

Thanks for the advice.

Billyonaire:
Open your eyes and see the world differently. A conman is now President of USA, an illiterate Soldier who never worked a real job is President of your country. Stop being unhappy. Search for your own coins.

I am being unhappy because I suffered from 2013-2015 and luck smiled on me because of government friendly business policy, now all that I have hustled for is vanished because of another useless government policy and I am back to being partially idle. The government will keep raping us yet they won't perform their duty by providing at least electricity for it citizens yet you will see some elements of Satan and devil children who you are even better than supporting these criminals because they're from the same tribe,town or community. some will support evil because of personal gains . Due to bad governance, what is common to obtain in other countries is hard in this devilish country.

Nigerians love supporting corrupt individuals, that's why we're still begging for at least 5hours of constant electricity at this period while other African countries are building mega cities and economy to escape the tag of third world country.



Some set of people that will support their desired criminals will come here to blast ijaw people for supporting their own criminal son.




I am not proud of Nigeria because being a proud Nigerian doesn't give me electricity.

Fine fulani girl....

mrvitalis:
I know.. but i am very sure... The imported one is now more expensive

I am sorry because there is nothing like imported white maize and it can only be sourced from niger republic and Nigeria market control the price over there. If not, it could have been cheaper over there.

mrvitalis:
Now i see my point. .. Have asked urself why they chose to import corn than do grow here very well?? .. its cheaper to import?? Can i ask why?? We have cheaper labour and cheaper land why is it cheaper to import from people using more expensive land and labour? ?
The simple answer is we had an over priced currency.. Now that naira is gaining its true value... a ton of corn in Nigeria is around 120..k so why will they import at 150k when they can get it for 120k here... So they will support real farmers to expand and meet there supply requirements

Before its was 55k to import and 80k to biy local.. . So u see my point


And the fact is no company or country can have all raw materials u must import.. But the truth is we can source locally 80% of the materials qe import

Read again and you will understand my point.
Their corns are supplied by people like us who source from big farms but the price is high due to fertilizer and some other things needed to run a big farm is costly and government is not doing anything about it.

mrvitalis:
U must be thos people who dont do any research at all...
Andorama(Eleme petrochemical) can give u all the farm chemicals u need to farm.. from fertilizers to herbicides to pesticides and the rest.. . We have great chemical companies in Nigeria and u need to do a little research. ..

U are the one that needs sense

have you entered inside the eleme petrochemical to make inquiries and they told you that everything they produce is sourced locally? My brother make deep inquires because i am directly supplying raw materials to like three different companies and i know what production in nigeria takes..

The first pic is a feed mill company owned by UAC and it's one of the bigest in Nigeria, their production outfit is down by 20% because the white maize they needed most in production of feeds rose from 55,000 per mt to 145,000 per mt. white maize is common crop that can grow anywhere in Nigeria but the price has made 100% increment because what it takes to grow it in large quantity is no longer affordable.
Stop supporting bad governance with this your farm mentality.

ivandragon:
normally, I would have just given you a well deserved 'like' & moved on.
but its always nice to read comments from people who actually understand a situation.
what most Nigerians fail to realise is that you can't FORCE people to go back to the farm by threatening them with poverty, starvation & hopeless.
people should go back to the farm because they want to. people who farm out of a desire & vision to do so are more often more productive than people who go back to farming because they have no other choice.
the government needs to make the agric sector more attractive to attract the right people.
it is better to have 100 big time farmers who can feed the country than 50m farmers that can barely feed themselves & their families...

The reason why i gave response to his post is that he always quote bogus profit when it comes to agriculture, his first claim that even caught my attention was the one he made on bayelsa airport claiming they will make more profit on farming as if the airport is not going to employ any human being whereas bayelsa is prone to heavy flood which can render any of their big farm useless within two days.
On a normal day, i don't argue with Gej and Pmb supporters because they are supporters of bad governance.

mrvitalis:
Now that foreign materials and raw materials are more expensive than local ones.. Its time to syart searching for those local materials... empower people to produce them in large quantities

Flour mills.. Should now look for land and farm wheat...

This is what it is supposed to be.. No more fake dollars price created by selling oil dollars cheap

Yhe problem with Nigerians is we fail to see opportunities even when they are in our faces
Someone is looking at buying a house of 200 million just to rent it out at 10 million per year
While with that in Jigawa or kaduna one can cultivate over 1000 heactres of wheat which will give u over 900 million in 5 months...

There are countless opportunities like this and people with money can't even see this

You always think like a kid thinking that you're making sense. I understand your reasoning but if you ever do a feasibility study on everything we produce in nigeria, you will understand we need to import chemical to produce a tissue and the pieces of papers we mix the chemical with is also source via importation. Even the farm you're talking about, are you going to produce manure and fertilizer from your anus? My friend big farmlands are always open for termites and birds and in farming, you can easily lose your capital investment .
My brother, receive sense cos it's your birthright.

ImperialYoruba:
While I agree with you,I cannot support your cause. The reason is simply that from the Yoruba perspective, by bringing assault on Yorubaland, Ijaw militants have choosen to be enemy with our land and and peoples. I do not support enemy of Yoruba.

I said few weeks ago that there are two camps in national politics, the Yoruba Political Barons and the Non-Allieds.

The Yoruba Barons are a continuum of a legacy extending far back into the 1800s. Those who recognize the reach and power of this elite group ally with them for political progress and growth. Government regimes that ally with the Yorubas gain favors and success. Those in the Non-Allied camp struggle with success and end in regrets.

Northerners are in the Yoruba camp
Ibos are in the Non-Allied camp, and Ijaw has sought cover under Biafra.

Bear this in mind when choosing a camp for protection and cover. Ijaw has choosen to camp with the Non-Allied. Therefore, while we sympathise with situation on the ground regarding Operation Crocodile, we are unable to protect you against your conscious choice.

There is a reason no Ibo has been given unsupervised executive position in Nigerian Politics. Given recent outcomes, same fate will follow Ijaw into the future.

You have bigger and more pressing problem than Operation Crocodile, and that is deciding what to do with your political future, Yoruba will weave a web of restrictions around you and bring stagnation to your political freedoms and liberties. We can do it....

You better wake up and recognize, and start bowing to the kingmaker in Nigeria.

Ibo makes slaves. Thats what they are in the scheme of national politics, slaves! Ijaw will end up becoming one if you tail behind their confusion and chaos. Detach from Biafra and all things that look like, smell like and taste like Biafra, including what you call creek militancy. Do it NOW!

My friend stop sounding like a mad mad. Because Fulani headers disturbing at oke Ogun part of oyo state do not care to know which jargon camp you belong to, just keep lying to yourself till the day they will dispose you of your valuables and machete your back in that your enclave you will know what's up.

Abagworo:
Typical Igbotic buildings clustered like South American slum. Look to your left on the 2nd picture and see something decent. Government needs to give designs for both structure and roofing to stop this kind of nasty housing.

So this ikwerre man is still campaigning against this beautiful storey buildings.
You prefer the building on the left of 2nd picture which is an estate and also bungalow that will only accommodate one family or at best two and you know southeast have small landmass.
This is how you will like to see your beloved zone littered with bungalows.