₦airaland Forum

Igbosmoker:
smh I'll rather die than go form a country with Yoruba or any other major ethnic group. I know an average Benin person share my ideology

I mean ... I have no problem with you committing suicide if you insist.

But before you die for nothing, remember that the leaders of opinion in your state (that is, the people who matter in Edo state) have no problem with the S-W/Yoruba.

Cheers!

For the last time.
In the early colonial era, Yoruba chiefs like the ooni of ife were referred to as "ooni of ife, sir sijuade".
Notice the use of the word "sir", a foreign word, a British word meant to attach Yoruba monarchy to that if Britain and bring in a sense of greatness into it.
Later on in the colonial era, pan Africanism was popular so the Yoruba replaced the word "sir" with the title of the emperor of Benin and it became: "ooni of ife, Oba sijuade".
Yoruba don't have any such thing as Oba, it is borrowed from Benin empire.

Unless ife, oyo were not kingdoms but dukedoms, the ife word for king is ooni and the oyo word for king is alafin.

There is no ancestral general Yoruba word for king due to the fact Yoruba is a new tribe created by regrouping many other tribes.

Another dvmb comment from the illiterate self-acclaimed nursery school match teacher whom I forced to delete his many nairaland accounts.

(1) "Sir" was added to the address of Oba Adesoji Aderemi by virtue of his doubling as the Governor of Western Nigeria.

(2) For the umpteenth time, the word "Ọba" is not present at all in the Edo lexicon till today.

I still wonder how Edo people gave what they don't have.

(3) The closest words to "Ọba" from the Edo lexicon are words which:

(i) Are spelt differently.

(ii) Sound differently.

(iii) Have different meanings with nothing to do with monarchy.

(4) In the Yoruba language, in contrast, the word "Ọba" literally means: "One who reigns-supreme".

It becomes clear that this particular word was loaned from the Yoruba language into Edo. See also attachment below from D.M. Bondarenko'

(5) Just like the word "Pharaoh" (lit. "The Great House"), words like "Ooni" (lit. "The One who Owns"), "Alaafin" (lit. "The Principal One of the Palace"), etc. obviously DO NOT literally mean "King", "Monarch", etc.

They, however, apply exclusively to the monarchs of these respective kingdoms --- that is, ancient Egypt, Ife, Oyo respectively.

These words are the unique royal titles for the monarchs of these respective kingdoms. They run alongside the common noun for "King" in the respective languages --- "Ọba" being the Yoruba equivalent.

(6) Your dvmb claim that Yoruba is a recent tribe is similar to saying that "Benin" or "Edo" is a tribe created in the 1500s/1600s because these words were not used prior to then.

(7) The ancestral generic Yoruba word for "King" "Ọba" was loaned into the Edo lexicon beginning with the Oranmiyan/Eweka dynasty.

(8 ) The ancestral generic umbrella terms with which all Yoruba subgroups collectively identify themselves before the word "Yoruba" was adopted were: "Lukumi" and "(A)Nago", and later "Aku".

The word "Yoruba" used to be applied exclusively to the Oyo subgroup.

Malawian:
This one dey try grab Edo people to join him Oduduwa republic. Like i have said before, Yorubas will not have the Hausa-Fulani to hide behind to do shit. It really makes me laugh realizing the Yorubas think they can or will subjugate the Bini. Same Bini people who ran a recognizable empire? this is the people who you think will be politically under you? Ok na.

Smiles!

OgboAto:
Gregyboy & Davidnazee

Igbo own half of Edo. Ontop of that Igbo invaded & conquered Edo in 1967-1970

Ijaw also own an extension

If Nigeria dissolves & Igboid towns to with Igbo & Ijaw towns go with Ijaw. I wonder what would be left of Bini

TAO11

If Nigeria dissolves today (or at anytime in the future for that matter), it is extremely unlikely that any such dissolution will be along the lines of our present "state" structure -- It is absurd to think that Nigeria will break up into 36 different countries.

What is more thinkable and reasonable is that any such dissolution will be along our present "geopolitical-zone" structure -- the smallest break-up components reasonably conceivable.

But as it stands, the Edos/Binis (who are the majority in Edo state) have succeeded in raising enemies for themselves from the S-S (the Ijaws come to mind), and from the S-E (the Igbos).

The situation is, however, quite different for them in relation to the S-W. Those who actually matter in Edo state [i.e. the leaders of opinion throughout the state] have no qualms whatsoever with the S-W (to whom their present political structure already leans more towards), or with the ancestral house of Oodua (with which their apex monarchy claims connection).

If the process for disintegration is completed today, the Yorubas -- being the accommodating folks that they are -- will gladly welcome their kith and kins from all around with wide open arms into their new country.

In the new country, the expected bitterness and frustraton from inconsequential and insignificant Bini Nairaland warriors will only remain hidden within them for some time until they decide, one after the other, to abandon delusions and begin to live in the real-world.

gregyboy:
This is what we were meant to believe but indeed it was all made up stunt, to elevate the yorubas history ,

Oduduwa also happened to have not also existed but initially worship as a god
The yorubas had brought the myth of his existence into life in other to unite the yoruba into one political canopy......

yorubas accepted the fact they paid tribute to the oba of benin but disagreed to the fact they paid tribute to oyo for political acknowledgement was false


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Afraid of something??