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Edeyoung:
The material was adodo red linen


Refer you to my thread benin influence on yorubas you will see alot information on benin influence on yorubas

Bro dint blame me for your negligence on judgement day the thread is there for you to read

We sold guns to virtually all yorubas which they use to kill themselves the sounds of the gun benin sold to yorubas was Nickname after the war as kiriji war because of the sound of the guns

(1) Gregyboy -- aka Edeyoung -- you need to shut your lying stinking mouth.

I'm not sure why you're deluded into thinking that Binis manufacture guns.

No, the Europeans traded far and wide along the coast and the two Yoruba side to the Kiriji war independently acquired its own new high-velocity rifles for the war.

Oh wait, what happened to your guns when Aje (from Ibadan) or Ogedengbe (from Ilesha) came raiding Benin Kingdom??

(2) Regarding clothing, your attachment defeats you as always. I have warned that you should always have a smarter person proof-read for you before you attach here.

Your attachment shows that the aso Ado was a variety of cloth produced by a Yoruba subgroup for sale to Binis.

The relevant statement in the atrachment reads: "aso Ado -- meaning ... 'cloth for Benin'."

You really need to appreciate the difference between "cloth FOR Benin" and "cloth FROM Benin" before you continue shooting yourself.

cc: BabaRamota1980

ayoola27:
Las Las u are drunk... until u are able to prove that I'm an impersonator...u nor get sense...

No you're the drunk impersonator.

You're an Edo obviously, yet your moniker says AyoOla.

ayoola27:
I don't know who u are comparing me to...

check the time of this account

I think you should take your own advice of not being drunk.

Moreover, my fun question remains:

Why do you impersonate as Yoruba with your moniker?

ayoola27:
Don't be drunk

https://www.nairaland.com/5846948/benin-yoruba-speaking-empire/9#90343890

Fun Question Again:
Why are you impersonating with your moniker?

ayoola27:
So what was the reason for the conquest prior to European coming?

was it not to still get slaves... Stop blaming the Europeans...

When u conquer a territory..The conquered becomes ur subjects and u do whatever u want with them... Oyo Empire did it, Benin Empire did it..Asante did it...

abeg...slavery has always been since time immemorial

I hope you're aware that your original straw-clutching point in this regard has already been debunked at the link below:

https://www.nairaland.com/5846948/benin-yoruba-speaking-empire/9#90343890

Fun question: Why did you originally impersonate as Yoruba -- your moniker??

cc: Amujale

ayoola27:
(1) U see that it was doubtful...both kings made different claim and the writer chose the one that suits hime more

(2) And pls...since u argue mostly with facts.. lemme see where auchi migrated from Benin

(1) Who are the "both kings" of Ososo who gave different accounts?

From where in that attachment did you read about two different kings of Ososo giving different accounts?

I actually warned that you should take your eyes along with you .

Moreover, who did you randomly refer to as "the writer"? Lmao!

I know you're unaware, but to educate you: Dr. R.E. Bradbury is the greatest historian and anthropologist of Benin Kingdom for all times.

If you must reply, at least try all your best to do so sensibly.

(2) I am still not sure what your point about Auchi is. Did you dream about me talking about Auchi??

I have not raised any point about Auchi, so I am not sure why you're insisting on replying me about Auchi.

If you're an Auchi person who knows nothing about his own history, I am not to blame for that.

There are tons upon tons of digital and printed materials you can access on the origin of the Auchis from Udo, Benin City.

I am assuming you're an adult, so you should know how to go about accessing digital materials at least.

ayoola27:
(1) that attachment does not in anywhere state that they were Benin...pls can u underline it for me for better clarity...

(2) and u don't get it...Bini are edo and Edo are Bini...but u can't refer to an auchi person as Bini Because they are from Edo state

(1) I'm not sure how you fail to read the testimony of the King of Ososo where he clearly said that he is Edo and that his ancestors are originally from Benin city.

Read the attachment again, but this time around with your eyes open (focusing on the red dot).


(2) I am not sure what you're trying to prove by bringing up Auchi which I actually never brought up.

But to educate you, Auchis originally migrated from Benin City too.

So, you can use that information for whatever purpose you intend.

You need to know what you're talking about before embarrassing yourself publicly. Okay?

Conclusion:
So, regardless of the angle from which you choose to look at it, the Ososos (and your Auchis) are all Binis especially considering their ethnic origins.

Attachment From:
R.E. Bradbury, The Benin Kingdom and The Edo-Speaking Peoples of South-Western Nigeria, 1957, p.112.

macof:
this guy needs help.. Anywhere you see a semitic people mentioned you lose your mind and go nuts

Even your own post answers your question

If the word Baba/Aba can mean old woman of eastern European tradition, father in many languages, a holy man in Sanskrit, a baby in India , etc

That should tell you that the presence of such words in different languages is coincidental and not linked to cognates

Even in your post you implied that baby talk has a lot of words with "b".. I should say it is a general thing for babies to make soft sounding words with an abundance of b, d, p, a

Baba, Papa, Dada, Tata are all known words all over the world for father

In fact I'll direct you to a link that explains more https://www.theatlantic.com/international/archive/2015/10/words-mom-dad-similar-languages/409810/

Read it, you'll learn something interesting
Does that answer your question?

Thanks for that reply. I was fast losing my patience on all their nonsensical claims.

Yoruba language has many similar sounding words (with same meanings) as the Japanese language.

I wonder what the conclusion of these self-deluded scholars will be in that regards.


Moreover, I find it strange and surprising that our self-deluded Nairaland scholars of Yoruba history and linguistics dared not take up the challenge I posed earlier.

As a reminder to our Nairaland "scholars", what is the meaning of each of the following different Yoruba words?:

(1.) Okó

(2.) Ọkọ́ 

(3.) Oko

(4.) Ọkọ̀

(5.) Ọkọ

(6.) Ọ̀kọ̀

(7.) Òkò

(8.) Ó ko

(9.) Ó kò

(10) Ó kò ó

davidnazee:
(1) If Slave raiding should be used as points for claiming superiority then you Yorubas will still be the losers. Almost all tribes raided Yorubas for slaves. Dahomey raided you, Nupe raided you, igala raided you, even you raided yourselves lol. It’s like Yorubas were crops in a farm to be harvested. But I don’t celebrate such history.

(2) As for your naked part, you lie there.
Benin was known to be the primary exporter of clothes to all parts of Nigeria and beyond. Everyone traded in Benin cloth because it was the best at that time. Benin exported cloth to Yoruba territories clothing your naked forefathers.
Now you shamelessly turn it around forgetting it’s all documented.

Run away Lilliput.

(1) I am glad you admitted that Aje (from Ibadan) and Ogedengbe (from Ilesa) independently slave-raided Benin Kingdom and sacked many of its territories around the 1800s

Moreover, Yorubas have several distinct, sovereign and independent KINGDOMS with different kings of different hierrachy of importance.

So, stop painting the false narrative of Yoruba as one kingdom ruled by one king and protected by one military.

Having clarified that, Dahomey or Igala could never possibly raid even the tiniest Yoruba Kingdom. Dahomey was an Oyo-conquered foreign territory. Also, the only Kingdom I remember that Igala once raided was Benin Kingdom

The Nupe, on the other hand, could only possibly attack a kingdom which was still at its early infancy beginings with no significant level of political, economic, or military organization yet; or a frail frontier kingdom.

This is in sharp contrast to the independent raids of Benin Kingdom by different Yoruba subgroups at different times around the 1800s -- a time when Benin Kingdom has been well established for centuries

So your claim here ranges from a pure blatant lie, to a pained and disgraceful distortion.

As for civil war, should I remind you that Benin Kingdom was so ravaged and grounded by civil war to the extent that its capital was reduced to a mere village??

This is despite the fact that there is only one Benin KINGDOM rising against itself , unlike the Yorubas where there are several distinct, sovereign and independent Kingdoms.

Do I have to mention the Nupe conquest of Benin Kingdom, or the quite recent Igbo slaughter of Benin Kingdom, or the recent threats from Ijaw about which your Omo N'Oba respected himself and avoided trespassing??


(2) At a time when Yorubas already considered clothing to be essential and normal for many many centuries; so many of your Edo fore-parents (while adults) were still roaming Benin streets stark n@ked without showing any shame.

Refer to the following (also attached) from H. L Roth(1903), p.24.:

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"... according to Dapper, "No man is allowed to wear any dress at all at court ... There are men at the King's court, twenty and twenty-four years old who without any semblance of shame go about naked, only wearing a chain of corals or jasper round their neck."

The statement continues as follows about your fore-mothers:

"Likewise, the women are not allowed to wear clothes, ... So you can see there, women of twenty and twenty-five years going along the streets perfectly nude without showing any shame."
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Your claim of selling cloth even makes everything worse for you and your 2by2 kingdom as this portrays your Edo fore-parents as very achaic and backward to the extent of thinking that wearing clothes was something luxurious and should be reserved to the King's family and much more older well to do men (and sometimes women).

In case you don't realize, many Yoruba kingdoms (of the coastal regions) were big time traders of European clothes. The Ijebus were particularly notable for clothing your people in an unprecedentedly large quantity.

Note: The more lies you come with, the more evidence I will counter you with, thereby exposing you and your 2by2 Kingdom to the Igbos and to the whole world. So any how you approach it, it's always you and Benin on the losing end.

Amujale:
Not really, you dont get it.

Only the officials and government of the empire spoke Yoruba and used as their Lingua Franka, the people of Benin retain their languages ...

This is quite not true.

What is true instead is that the Yoruba language was once the lingua-franca of THE BENIN KINGDOM.

Always verify information careful (especially when you're unsure) before typing something out there.

Don't be bullied into reaching a compromise with Benin liars. Let facts remain facts.

Please be aware that Binis on Nairaland are notorious for repeating a lie even after been caught red-handed pants down.

Amujale:
Its important to note that Africans never enslaved other African prior to foreign distruption ...

I have already addressed his comment to be false.

Read my reply to him on this particular comment and modify yours accordingly.

Moreover, Africans did enslave one another.

The Yorubas have extant indigenous words for different variety of slaves, namely Ẹrú and Ìwọ̀fà.

It's nothing to get emotionally defensive about.

davidnazee:
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Unlike you I’m not interested in making up stories for fun..
Ogedengbe raided farm communities and when he learnt a Benin army was coming he fled. I believe you already knew that from your research if really you did any.

Ogedengbe and Ibadan episodes is actually not relevant to the scheme of things or play any important roles in shaping history. Slave raiders also raided Yoruba settlements as well as other tribes.

What is worth mentioning and countless books and articles and journals have been written about is that “once upon a time, Great Benin Kingdom conquered and ruled the Yorubas for almost a thousand years”.
That is a stain on your history that you can’t erase and the reason for your present headache and frustration lol.

You don't make up stories yet you can't substantiate all these super-stories you've written with even one shred of historical documentation.

You are an insecure and infereior Edo joke as is expected.


Unlike your unsubstatiable super-stories above, the only relevant statements supported by historical documentation remains the following:

(1) Oranmiyan conquered your Edo people, scrapped Ogiso monarchy, and installed a Yoruba monarchy (i.e. "Oba" ) unchallenged till date.

(2) Youruba language was Benin Kingdom's lingua-franca for centuries.

(3) Aje, an Ibadan warrior, slave-raided Benin Kingdom for many, many years.

(4) Ogedengbe, an Ilesa warrior, slave-raided Benin Kingdom for months.

(5) Benin men and women roamed the streets stark n@ked even in as recent as the early 1900s.


All these facts are supported by history as I have demonstrated again and again on this same thread, while none of your super-stories above can be substantiated.

Edeyoung:
[s]And non of this crown came close to it..... Unlike the ewi crown...
You have tried but you failed bro


Would you want me to give you the pdf file describing the influence of benin on eastern yorubas


Foolish sarcasm you threw out there... My post already addressed it

If you did that deliberately to troll then am not buying into it....

Find the influence on ife_benin, benin oyo relationship in the past if they really existed[/s]

As expected, I have reduced you to clutching at strwas and running for dear life, from the actual issue at hand. I will not stop exposing your 2by2 Kingdom to the Igbos and the whole world.

(1) For the umpteenth time, Yoruba Kings (including Benin's) have a different varieties of crowns not just one crown only.

The frustum/conical-shaped beaded crown is found throughout Yorubaland including Ife, AdoEkiti, Oyo, IlaOrangun, IjebuOde, and others.

This particular shape of crown has a specifically designated name among the Yorubas. It is called Ade-Nla.

The 1st attachment is a frustum-shaped high crown from ancient IFE.

The 2nd attachment is a frustum-shaped high crown of Oyo


(2) Having addressed your distraction to crown, my question on the actual issue remains:

Why are you dead-scared to say even one word about the actual issue in question?

And thus issue remains to compare the unique regalia itself since you have now been taught that crowns can come in different vareities even from the same kingdom.

Why are you dead-scared of saying a word on the actual unique regalia?? See 3rd and 4th attachment again and don't be scared this time around.


Appendix:
I ask again: What exactly did you influence AdoEkiti into??

Influenced them into roaming the streets stark n@ked??

No they didn't roam n@ked like the Binis in case that's the influence you were thinking about.

And in case you're hoping to lie (as usual) that you influenced them into using frustum/cone-shaped crowns (which ironically is found all over Yorubaland); be rest assured that Benin didn't have frustum/cone-shaped crowns in ancient times.

How can you manage to give what you don't have?


Anyways, enough of the crown face-saving distrations (which have been trashed anyways). Now address the unique regalia which is the actual issue at hand. Don't be scared.


A circa1300 sculpture of an Ooni of Ife was excavated from your Benin palace. This is an hard evidence of imperial domination of Benin Kingdom by Ile-Ife.

davidnazee:
Ogedengbe only raided small farm communities on the border of Benin Kingdom and fled when a Benin army was advancing on his position ...

"small farm communities on the border"

"fled when a Benin army was advancing on his position"

ROTFLMAO!!!

Wait let me guess:
Ogedengbe "fled when [he received a telephone call from Benin that] a Benin army was advancing" to engage him on the small farm border communities.


Notice how I have easily turned all you Binis into straw-clutching clowns on Nairaland with your summersaulting from one unsubstantiable joke into another one.

It's also interesting to notice how you Binis have been abandoning your lies slowly:

Your super-stories have recently shifted from "Bini army killed Ogedengbe", to "Bini army stopped Ogedebgbe", and now to "Ogedengbe fled before the Bini army could arrive".


Hopefully some day (when you all grow up), you will admit the only substantiable historical account which notes that Ogedengbe continued to raid Benin Kingdom -- taking Edo captives from one Edo town to another until he got to IRUEKPEN where he agreed to simply forage for booty and then return back to his Idoani camp in Ondo, Yorubaland.

While this continued for weeks/months, the army of Benin Kingdom was helpless.

History can't be re-written!

Edeyoung:
Now this ewi of ado ekiti who benin had is influenced on in the past check the picture and compare it with the sculpture

Hahahaha! Is this the best you could return with in response to the regalia??

Once again, I am glad to have turned you into a straw-clutching Nairaland clown.

Notice how you are dead-scared to address the unique regalia in all the four attachments.

You couldn't even dare say pim about the comparisons of the unique regalia.


Having debunked you already on the unique Ife regalia, let me add the following as appendix:

(1) The monarch of a particular kingdom (Yorubas or Benin) is known to have all kinds of crowns of different designs, shapes, sizes, etc.

(2) The frustum-shape beaded crown is universal to all Yoruba kingdoms including Ife and Ado-Ekiti.

[See 4th attachment below for another ancient Ife high frustum-shaped crown without a circular & vertical front piece.

(3) However, the regalia in question is unique to Ife and Ife alone.

Will you dare say a word on this (i.e. the actual issue) and rescue Benin Kingdom from this shame and see finish?


See regalia comparison again in case you mistakenlt didn't see it earlier


Note that I am aware that you have tried this straw-clutching reply with me before using your 2nd account and I trashed you into pieces.

Oh before I forget, did you just say Benin influenced Ado Ekiti?

Influenced them into what exactly? Into walking n@ked?

No they didn't roam n@ked like Binis in case that's the influence you were thinking about.

Edeyoung:
Show me anoda sculoture from ife artwork that take thesame semblance as this artwork

I am quite certain that, at this point, you're already shaky, or in tears, or both.


Anyways, the same regalia of the Ooni shown in this sculpture is not found anywhere in the world except in sculptures from Ife of different Oonis of Ife.

Not even sculptures of Benin Kings have this regalia. Only Ife kings.

See comparisons attached:

Edeyoung:
Like i have maintained that is not an ife artwork

You want try to convince me but you keep bringing thesame sculpture i criticize

Bro that aint ooni of sculptures not even the regalia

Be rest assured that I am NOT trying to convince YOU. My intentions are far away from that.

I have noticed your unrepentant bigotry, so my intention is to adduce tons of evidence which will ensure that you do not escape from your present state of inferiority and insecurity.

While keeping you inferior and insecure, I am at the same time putting those materials out there to expose Benin's "hidden" indignity to the Igbos and to the whole world.


Having said that, always remember to remind yourself that you don't matter. Okay?

Repeating your denial of reality several times changes absolutely nothing about reality.


Like I have repeated, sane people go where the evidence goes.

On the other hand, insane and insecure Binis like you deny reality and gnash their teeth when confronted with evidence.


The same regalia of the Ooni in this sculpture is not found anywhere in the world except in sculptures from Ife of different Oonis of Ife -- Not even sculptures of Benin Kings have this regalia. Only Ife kings.

Edeyoung:
That sculpture could be carved by the Bini’s for the owo people or a lost sculpture from the eastern Yoruba vassals under benin

Sane people go where evidence goes.

Insane, inferior and insecure Binis like you rather cry over spilt milk.

A 1300 sculpture of the Ooni (now kept in your Benin Museum) was excavated from your Benin palace.

Deal with it!

Edeyoung:
Bro you told a lie that ogedegbe came to edo for slave hunting rather than originally aiming for revenge as a result of benin taking side with ekiti to attack ilesha and was stop at ehor closd to benin by an esam warrior.....

You painted the whole story to suit you

Bro......

If you had any historical evidence to support each of your claims and contradict me, you would have hastily done so from the get go.

Ogedengbe raided Benin Kingdom and took many Edo as captives.

Edeyoung:
That sculpture is not ooni so stop posting such scrap bro
A 14c ife art differs from this sculpture.
That scupture was probably from Eastern yorubas who benin ruled and govern

I knew your butt would be hurt by the fact that a sculpture of the Ooni was excavated from your Benin palace.

Sane people go where the evidence goes.

While sick inferior Binis like you cry over spilt milk.

Edeyoung:
I thought you were bigger than this shit already...

All this write up happend in the 1930 when tribes started borrowing cultures from each other, did you try to also do research how the other yorubas kings were buried i guess No

Probably all yorubas even buried thier kings in such mannere too, it couod also be a general culture around southern nigeria

I am so glad to see that amidst a mountain of his own falsehoods and distortions, your brother still managed to admit that the ancient Binis regarded the monarchs of Ife as their God Almighty (in hunan flesh) -- Oghene.

Moreover, to be honest with you, Ekaladerhan is a separate and distinct entity from Oduduwa.

The equation of these two personages (as one and the same individual) is what was made-up by the Binis in the 1970s as a political necessity borne out of inferiority complex.

Am still waiting for orun oba ado if the oba heads were really buried there

I have written quite extensively on the Orun Oba Ado site in Ife which was used for burying Benin Kings' exhumed heads. See link below:

https://www.nairaland.com/5761595/benin-kingdom-edo-state-remained/4#88240113

Again i need a docunentation of ife-benin, benin-oyo relationship that existed in the past by Europeans account.... Or archaeological excavation

The sculpture attached below was excavated, in an archaeological context, from the palace of Benin Kingdom. It has been dated variously by experts to the year circa1300 A.D.

It represents the image of the then Ooni of Ife in his ceremonial regalia. The same regalia is seen in other ancient Ife sculptures of Oonis of Ife, but NEVER seen in any sculpture of any Omo N'Oba N'Edo (or anyone else for that matter).

Not only does this show a strong pre-European evidence of Ife-Benin connection, it also emphasizes the imperial dominance of Ife over Benin Kingdom.

Reference:
See S.P. Blier's "Art in Ancient Ife" (2012), p.77. for the 1st attachment.

Edeyoung:
You debate like a child... Bro

You argue like, you just want to keep the discussion going to kill boredom this argument already have ended no further comment will be made on this

Thanks

As always, I am glad to have debunked your nonsense and exposed your lies and bigotry.

Boredom should never again push you into telling ridiculous lies or into ethnic bigotry.

Anyways, do let me know if you have further lies to tell.

Cheers!

Edeyoung:
Again you argue like a child....

Thanks no need to keep this discussion going
The info we have passed his enough

As always, I am glad to have debunked your nonsense and exposed your lies and bigotry.

Do let me know if you have further lies to tell.

Cheers!

Edeyoung:
(1) I never said benin imprisoned him i said the British bro dont lie.....


(2) I corrected myself on that on he been killed, i made mentioned of him been drive back by an edo warrior from esan

(3) The Before you become so excited fulanus raided edo north too before they were dispatch by edo warriors too

(4) Edo north is made of hausa, kogi, edo, Yorubas calling them just edo would be wrong'

(1) Oh British captured him and later released him was what you said.

Okay, so you have only two contradictions to deal with.

Was he killed by the Edos in his attempt to enter 'the promise land' (aka Benin Capital)? Or was he simply repelled and driven back?


(2) No you didn't make any so-called correction. Please point out where you admitted any so-called mistake if you did.

Instead, you simply jumped from one falsehood (that Ogedengbe was allegedly killed by the Edos) right into another falsehood (that Ogedengbe was repelled and turned back).

In any case, there is ZERO evidence for any of these two falsehoods regardless of which one of them you eventually make up your mind on.

The only available evidence about Ogedengbe in this regards is as follows:

(a) There were incursions from Ogedengbe's led army into Benin Kingdom.

(b) Ogedengbe raided and enslaved many Edos during those incursions, while the military of Benin Kingdom was helpless.

(3) That's the problem of Benin Kingdom if Fulanis too raided you.

What I do know, in a similar vein however, is that the Nupes CONQUERED territories of Benin Kingdom.

(4) In modern times, Edo north may also comprise of Europeans if you like.

That doesn't change the fact that the King of the Ososo people made it clear in the 1950s that they are Edos originally from Benin City.

Edeyoung:
Nigga read with free mind bro benins ruled out ve them no doubt but tgey aint benins or edos
They are akokos from ondo state
They bear yoruba names

A group of people's ethnicity is not determined by how their local government and few of their names sound. Okay?

Also, a group of Yoruba people could not reasonably make such statements along the lines Our houses were burnt by the Yorubas. Okay? Lol.

Accept your Edo people in peace!

Aje from Ibadan raided settlements of Benin Kingdom. An undeniable historical fact.

Ogedengbe is another bad Yoruba demon who raided in Benin Kingdom.

Edeyoung:
(1) We sold clothes to you all doesnt change the fact we sold clothes to you all

(2) In the ancient benin children be it boys or girls were naked while only adults wete clothed,
Servant's were naked too

(1) The fact that you sold clothes is actually what makes it even more appalling that many of your women and men (NOT only children) are not considered worthy enough to wear clothes. Wow!

Clothes are such a luxury to your archaic people that it was the exclusive preserve of much more older well to do men and women (?as well as members of the Kings family).

Also, the sale of cloth is something very widespread along the coast where the Europeans had initial contacts. The Ijebus, the Itsekiris, the Lagosians all traded European clothes.

(2) I hate that you continue to deceive yourself into believing that it was only children who roamed n@ked in Benin Kingdom.

No, men and women roamed naked without shame in Benin Kingdom.

The attachment below makes it clear as follows:

"... according to Dapper, "No man is allowed to wear any dress at all at court ... There are men at the King's court, twenty and twenty-four years old who without any semblance of shame go about naked, only wearing a chain of corals or jasper round their neck."

We also read from the same attachment as follows:

"Likewise, the women are not allowed to wear clothes, ... So you can see there, women of twenty and twenty-five years going along the streets perfectly nude without showing any shame."

Edeyoung:
..

I am shocked to see that you identify people's ethnic origin by the "name" of their LOCAL GOVERNMENT ... OMG!

Using your reasoning, Edo and Delta States are Yorubas etnically.

Why?

They once belonged to the political grouping known as The Old Western Region.

ayoola27:
(1) But they weren't Benin Sha...

(2) I'm just trying to get the name of the book

no vex

(1) Of course they aren't Yoruba -- and the attachment made it clear where they distinguished themselves clearly from Yorubas.

The account of their King clearly shows them to be Edos originally from Benin City. [See 1st attachement for reminder]

And according to you, Edos and Benin are one and the same thing -- Not one atom of difference. [See 2nd attachment to see a reminder when you made this claim in reply to BabaRamota]

(2) I have modified the foregoing comment and replied you there.

See below again:


Each of those two highlighted attachments in that comment are from different sources.

Also, they are not books, they are peer-reviewed academic journal articles.

(a) One is from R.C.C. Law's "Ethnicity and the Slave Trade: "Lucumi" and "Nago" as Ethnonyms in West Africa", Published by: Cambridge University Press, in the Journal: History in Africa, Vol. 24 (1997).

(b) The second is from John K. Thonton's "Traditions, Documents, and the Ife-Benin Relationship", Published by: Cambridge University Press, in the Journal: History in Africa, Vol. 15 (1988).

ayoola27:
but u know ososo is part of akoko Edo Yoruba...not Benin...

afar the book ns

Ososo is Yoruba yet they said Our houses were burnt by Yoruba people. Lol.

Which book do I owe you? Did you at anytime pay me for any book? I'm confused now.

Moreover, each of those highlighted attachment in that comment are from different sources.

Also, they are not books, they are peer-reviewed academic journal articles.

One is from R.C.C. Law's "Ethnicity and the Slave Trade: "Lucumi" and "Nago" as Ethnonyms in West Africa", Published by: Cambridge University Press, in the Journal: History in Africa, Vol. 24 (1997).

The second is from John K. Thonton's "Traditions, Documents, and the Ife-Benin Relationship", Published by: Cambridge University Press, in the Journal: History in Africa, Vol. 15 (1988).

Edeyoung:
Ogedengbe was driven back by the esan warriors no one felt his presence in esan except in edo north which he raided is yoruba people akoko

I have adviced that you should make up your mind.

You have said three contradictory things namely:

(1) He was killed by the Edos,

(2) He was driven back by the Edos, and

(3) He was captured and incarcerated by the Edos and later released alive.

Which of these do you stand by finally??

Anyways, regardless of which of these three lies you stand by, you can't provide any evidence to substantiate it because each of these is no more than a mouth-to-mouth regurgitated Edo super-story.

The only account supported by evidence is that there were incurssion from Ogedengbe's led army on Benin Kingdom.

He raided and enslaved many Edos during those incursions, while the military of Benin Kingdom was helpless.

Edo, women without any shame, roamed about n@ked in as recent as the early 1900s.

I will post a comparative analysis of an European account showing how some Yoruba girls reacted when someone caught a glimpse of them bathing (n@ked obviously).

To be modified


cc: Edeyoung, ayoola27 MetaPhysical, BabaRamota1980

Edeyoung:
Nope, the dressing is not yoruba no tribal mark too, the writing on the photograph could be later
Editing

I am glad to have reduced you to a straw-clutching Nairaland clown.

Anyways, that very picture is from the colonial era (1800s specifically).

It is present in The National Archive UK CO 10-69-80-31.

It was uploaded by Pinterest. Not some Edo or Yoruba blogger.

Next straw-clutching clownish excuse!