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 Foreign Affairs › Re: Iran's Consulate Raided In Iraq By The Coalition Troops by TayoD(m): 4:28pm On Jan 18, 2007 |
@twinstaiye, Hear yourself men, You known damn well, that civilians casualties cannot exist in America don't you? that is why you wont be talking about them, but since there are Americans, Britons who live in the US and Britain who loved their freedoms, that is more important. Suffice to say here that I am in no support of suicide bombers taking the lives of innocent along with their own lives, but in the real sense of the matter, Civilians casualties are the same, whether they are targeted or they are involved.No doubt every life is precious. It's appalling to try to dinstinguish between the value of the American life to that of any other. Each life is priceless and sacred. The issue we need to address in terms of civilian casualties is this: Has there been any war in history where no single innocent civilian was lost? If you know one please tell us about it. Even Naija Army with its limited arsenal killed and maimed so many civilians at Odi. And can you tell us no single civilian life was lost during our own civil war? War in itself is not a good thing. War may help solve some problems but it eventually creates others. It is up to people to determine if the cost is bearable compared to maintaining the status quo. Then that is price you people will pay for a war monger President, who can at will invade and sack any other country's government. Remember, all head are equal, their exist innocent casulaties too as a result of that invasion.Please tell us which war mongering Bush was doing before 911 came about. Why are you guys having selective amnesia? Bush went to war after the U.S. was attacked and you choose to blame him ahead of those who attacked first. The truth is we can't go on like this, and the bone of contention here, before we miss the point is that, Bush is also a terrorist, no matter way we look at it. It is not as if, I am in support of suicide bombers, or the act of terrorism, but one point here that I need to make is no matter how you people argued, or try to brainwashed me, I hold the believe tenaciously that BUSH IS ALSO A TERRORIST. Take it or leave it.You are yet to prove to us what makes Bush a terrorist. How many civilians has he targeted and killed simply because they are the nationals of an enemy state? If you choose to deceive yourself so be it, that I cannot do anything against. @asoderock, Saddam Hussen killed thousands but Bush killed hundreds of thousands; who is the greater terrorist? people could move freely(secured) in an undemocratic Iraq supervised by Saddam, but people are so afraid of leaving their house(insecured) in democratic Iraq under Bush's supervision. Which is better?. Let's be honest, War solves nothing.Again, a blind argument. The last I know and as reported by the press, it is the Shiite and Sunni militias that are killing themselves in thousands on the street of Baghdad. Is Bush the Commander-in-Chief of these militias too? Is he the one funding them and encouraging them to kill each other based on the differences in their faith? Is George Bush the one who incited the Civil War between prophet Mohammed's immediate family that is manifest in the sectarian violence between the Shiites and the Sunnis today? I think not. |
| Foreign Affairs › Re: Iran's Consulate Raided In Iraq By The Coalition Troops by TayoD(m): 10:50pm On Jan 17, 2007 |
Closed chapter!!!!!!!!!Are you on cheap drugs or something? If your lack of self worth makes you think others are as insecure in themselves, then you need to think again. My sense of self-worth transcends what any man can give to me or what any fleeting status can provide. You must think others are like you who only feel important when you are associated with those you perceive in your mind are better than you. Not Nigeria or America can provide the sense of self worth that I have personally come to know. You have been shown to be very myopic in your views and instead of accepting the facts, you are throwing some cheap shots at others. If you have nothing to say, just keep mute instead of mutiplying ignorance on the world wide web. |
| Foreign Affairs › Re: Iran's Consulate Raided In Iraq By The Coalition Troops by TayoD(m): 7:12pm On Jan 17, 2007 |
Mckren, That is one of the dictionary definitions of terrorism.Going by that dictionary defintiion, you must agree then that you are a terrorist. The U.N must be the mother of all terrorists and Obasanjo must be the Grandfather. How will the U.S. get the UN permission when they were busy collecting kickbacks from the oil-for-food programme? It is that same UN permision that the U.S. is waiting for while thousands of Africans like you are being killed and maimed in Sudan. What a United Nothing (UN), and like Fela said, a Disunited United Nations. I have only serve the people who abused me here with the same dish. If you don't like the food why dish it out to others? @Buluti, Thanks for your contribution. I am sure it is clear to those who are not biased that the opposition here have already made up their minds and are looking for every reason, and in the case of one person, lies to justify their position. |
| Foreign Affairs › Re: Iran's Consulate Raided In Iraq By The Coalition Troops by TayoD(m): 1:41am On Jan 17, 2007 |
@Mckren, Tayo D I saw you coming up with an argument like this that was why I included the clause "by the true sense of the word"You see yourself in public? You are making me laugh in ten different Nigerian languages. Am I not vindicated now that all you guys just hold on to a biased view with no facts to back up your prejudice? You have at least given in to the fact that at no time has George Bush "ever deliberately planned to kill and maim, nor has he planted bombs in buses, churches, mosques, markets etc in the hope of killing as many civilians as possible knowing fully well that there is no single enemy combatant at those locations?" If at all there is a war in history where no single civilian was killed, then I will at least say the U.S. has gone overboard, but there is none. Now going by your definition that intimidating others into doing your bidding is terrorism, then we must accuse the entire United Nations of terrorism. All resolutions and sanctions placed on any nation to get them to do the right thing must be classified as terrorism. Infact, the U.N is terrorising Iran at the moment. Now this gets Sweeter. If we consider that the goverment who voted for these sanctions against Iran are carrying out the wishes of their people, then every citizen of the nations represented in the U.N must be terrorists. In other words, you don't need to look to the U.S. to consider her President as terrorist. Just look in the mirror and you find one staring right back at you. Can you now see the foolishness of your definition? How I wish y'all will think clearly without bias in arriving at a conclusion. This is a classic case of shoting yourself in the foot while indiscriminately aiming your gun at another. |
| Politics › Re: The Begining Of The End For Hostage Takers by TayoD(m): 7:24pm On Jan 16, 2007 |
Classical Divide and Rule. I can see you've learned well from Lord Lugard.  |
| Foreign Affairs › Re: Iran's Consulate Raided In Iraq By The Coalition Troops by TayoD(m): 7:19pm On Jan 16, 2007 |
@Mckren, Bush is the terrorist by the true sense of the word.How many civilians has George Bush deliberately planned to kill and maim? How many times has he planted bombs in buses, churches, mosques, markets etc in the hope of killing as many civilians as possible knowing fully well that there is no single enemy combatant at those locations? These are the marks of a terrorist. If you can prove any of the above, then you have my support. If not, you are just another person with enough propaganda to encourage sadistic people like Afam. @twinstaiye, The truth is your US determined who is a terrorist, they defined who a terrorist is and they have right to brand anyone they like a terrorist, just as they are not in their good book.Please give us examples of groups and people that the U.S. have labelled terrorists that shouldn't be on the list. And please give us the reasons why you have come to that conclusion. I have told you I am not interested in your biased view but in facts. Back up your views with facts and I'll concede my wrong notion. Take for instance, suppose all the acts of pipeline explosion are by terrorist in Nigeria, and those responsible escape to neighbouring countries, does Nigeria has power to hunt them down in those countries they escaped to?The situation you are talking about has nothing in common with that of the U.S. Those responsible for the pipeline explosions are vandals and criminals who can be hunted down across international borders by INTERPOL. Besides, if you have lived in Naija for long enough, I am sure you'll realise that Nigeria has raided across the Benin Republic borders before to apprehend some criminals that operate in naija. You need to stop giving us scenarios that don't apply and produce facts. @Afam, I hope people like him never have anything to do with Nigeria, let them stay back and continue to live in confusion, lies and misinformations.No wonder you are such a fustrated human being. You have embrassed unrealistic hopes all your life and are inundated with broken dreams. What information are you talking about? You cannot produce facts and you are saying someone else is uninformed? Wake up from your sleep. Your nightmares are feeding your hopelessness. |
| Foreign Affairs › Re: Iran's Consulate Raided In Iraq By The Coalition Troops by TayoD(m): 3:57pm On Jan 16, 2007 |
@Afam, Issues you have not discussed. People you have begun to attack. Not only have you made erronous statements on this board, you have shown you can not defend such submissions when scrutinised. It is not my fault that you have to be so acidic when intellectually challenged. I'm sorry I spoiled your U.S. bashing party by pointing out the folly of your statements. It is not my fault that I do some thinking before writing, and I can clearly point out lies and bullshits from sweetly coated balderdash that a Liar like you disguise as truth on the world wide web. I would have recommended an Anger Management Class for you but I don't think they can help you. You need some classes in self-esteem and assurance. Your insults to everyone opposed to you only lends credence to the fact that you are insecure in yourself. Keep reveling in your self delusion and continue to surf the web for news that feeds your need to bash the U.S. I'm sure you'll find lots of company out there. Happy surfing. @twinstaiye, TayoD, I still stand by my views no matter how narrow-minded you claimed it was. Besides, we all don't look issues from US point of view like its apologists like you.You have every right to stand by your views even though I have shown it to be absolutely ludicrous. I will only wish you can present facts to support your stand as your views can only be considered truthful if they are factual. Now you are calling me names. I am not a U.S. Apologists but one who stands by the truth. If you find me lying, please point out the lies as I have done in the case of Afam and lately you. It's funny that everyone who does not agree with your biased view of the U.S. must be termed an Apologist. Davidylan, I respect your views, but this is way out of it, unless of course you admit that the US do engage in act of terrorism too, but that there is no one to hold them responsible for their actions because they are the world super powers for now. If US can invade any country on any pretext, bomb certain target like they did in somalia and later on telling the world that the Alqaeda target they intend to kill was not there, was that not an act of terrorism or like you chose to call it "legitimate terrorism". Is that not sending a dangerous signal that the US or its proxy war monger Israel can bomb any country where they THINK there is an al-qaeda and apologise later, that the al-qaeda they wanted dead has escaped, even though there is no al-qaeda target their in the first instance.And do you realise the legitimate government in Somalia santioned and encouraged this atack by the U.S. Are you telling us the U.S. has no right to find and kill the terrorists who killed hundreds of kenyans and other Africans just so they could kill only four Isrealis? |
| Christianity Etc › Re: Is Elijah John The Baptist? by TayoD(m): 3:28am On Jan 16, 2007 |
Hebrews 9:27 And as it is appointed unto men once to die, but after this the judgment: While Shahan's contribution so far is biblically based, I agree with TV01 that this Bible verse holds far greater meaning than the church has traditionally taught. The 'death' mentioned in this passage holds the key to the interpretation of the whole verse. The question is how many kinds of death is common to all men; and which one of these deaths must be experienced by every son of Adam? The fact that some men have been known to avoid physical death suggests that the passage might not be refering to physical death. From the scriptures, we know of 2 men who never tasted death. The first is Enoch and the second is Elijah. Some also believe Moses never tasted physical death, but there is evidence from the New Testament that he did. Apart from these 2 men, we also know that the entire church body that remain alive at the time of Jesus' coming will also be resurrected and never taste physical death. Doesn't that all but eliminate the notion that Hebrews 9:27 refer to physical death? I believe it does. If we have eliminated physical death, then we are left with only one alternative: spiritual death. Reading the entire chapter of Hebrews 9 suggests that verse 27 refers strictly to spiritual death. The chapter talks about the redemption provided "once" by the sacrifice of Jesus which "once" and for all takes care of the "one" time consequence of sin: "spiritual death". For every man born of a woman, the Psalmist has this to say: Behold, I was shapen in iniquity; and in sin did my mother conceive me. And if we understand that the wages of sin is death; then we can only conclude that the death appointed unto all men must be the one they can never escape. And I do not see how anyone can escape the one that comes about right from our mother's womb. While there may be more questions from my submission, I believe I should slow down a little and hear what TV01 has to say. It will be nice to have others shed some additional light on the topic as well. God willing and with available time, I will also further explain my position as we go. |
| Christianity Etc › Re: Is Elijah John The Baptist? by TayoD(m): 2:57am On Jan 16, 2007 |
@Topic, I agree with all the contributors so far that John the Baptist and Elijah are two different personalities altogether. The Bible does not teach re-incarnation in any way and every appearance of the dead in the Bible is only a manifestation of what the Bible calls familiar spirits. In this, I respectfully disagree with Shahan that the spirit that spoke to the witch of Endor is actually that of Samuel. That is a familiar spirit in action and the deceit is only further heightened by the personal pronoun that was used by that spirit. Having said this, the only time the real spirits of those who died were ever seen was after the resurrection of Jesus. That is why Paul wrote that Jesus led captivity captive. I strongly believe that Jesus went into the 3 compartments under the ground after His death. The first is Hell, the second Tatarus and the third is Abraham's Bossom. On rising from the dead, He took the Saints in Abraham's Bossom with Him on ascension to heaven. It was on transition to heaven that many of these Saints were spotted in Jerusalem. So now, any one who dies in the Lord does not go to Abraham's Bossom but straight up to Heaven to be present with the Lord. I have references for this for anyone who cares to know more. While it appears this is a little digression from the topic at hand, I believe it is relevant to answering the question about re-incarnation. I will answer the question of Hebrews 9:27 subsequently. |
| Foreign Affairs › Re: Iran's Consulate Raided In Iraq By The Coalition Troops by TayoD(m): 2:42pm On Jan 15, 2007 |
@Twinstaiye, The problem I have with your submissions is just the same as others. You look at issues from very narrow-minded and biased point. I'll prove this to you. I can't remember who give US the power to sack any government of any nation by any reason she can justify. Has ayone continue to ask yourself why Saddam Hussein government was sacked? All reasons the US adduced to his being sacked despite the restraint by UN at that time has been retracted, the WMD, a link with Alqaeda etc. So the truth is US caused the problem in the first instance.If Saddam was indeed building WMDs as the United State's faulty inteligence suggested, then the U.S. and the world at large had every right to stop such an action since we know the guy used WMDs to kill his own people. As regards to link with Al-quaeda, it has not been disproved that he encouraged and trained terrorists in his country. And by the way, WMDs were found in Iraq, but only on smaller scale than anticipated. The US embassy at that time in Iran is being used by US for espionage. The US is using the Shah of Iran to continue to oppress the Iranians, so can you blame the Iraninans for taking their own destiny in their hands by sacking the puppet regime of Shah of Iran?The U.S. Embassy like every other embassies are used as tools for espionage in every country. How did the U.S. oppresss the Iranians? That the U.S. supported the legitimate government in power does not mean it approves of every action of that government. That the U.S. is in support of the Obasanjo Administration does not mean they condone every action of the man. We know the U.S. supports the Monarchy in Saudi Arabia, but the country has been listed (by the U.S. State Dept) as one of the top five abusers of human rights (especially to worship) in the past 5 years or so. The U.S. have used the cordial relations to effect changes through diplomacy as we've seen in the last few years. It's so funny that when the U.S. uses diplomacy, you accuse her of oppressing the people and when she uses force you accuse her of arrogance and lawlessness. Nothing the U.S. can does will ever satisfy your prejudice abi? US is even more guilty of this than any country in the world. They have their secret army everywhere, they armed Saddam, using him against the Iranians at that period, supplying him arms and everything, before he later go against them. Are the US not using Israel to quash any seeming upheaval of any country in the middle east? Of recent Israwl is threatening to bomb target in Iran, are you sure it is israel who is making the threat? The recent Israeli-Lebanese war, we all known it is a proxy war for US. Who says, US is the only country that can protect its interest anywhere in this world? but because they control the press and spread the propaganda that any opposing country to its seeming posture to be the police of the world are terrorist, people like you are brainwashed. If iran train people to protect its interest which lies with the shia in Iraq, can you blame them?You talk as if Isreal is not an independent country in itself. People say the Isrealis control the United State's Government and here again you accuse the U.S. of directing the affairs of State of Isreal. Can you guys please make up your mind? Isreal have always stood alone to fight their battles. The 1948 War was fought with men and women who routed the Arab Armies and defeated the Russians who fought alongside the Arabs. Can you tell us when the U.S. fought alongside the IDF? If Iran trains people to fight the U.S. then they have got to be ready for the consequences, chikena. I must give it to you at least. You have tried to deal with issues unlike Afam, who as usual tried to reduce this into a personality bashing. |
| Foreign Affairs › Re: Iran's Consulate Raided In Iraq By The Coalition Troops by TayoD(m): 10:36pm On Jan 14, 2007 |
| Foreign Affairs › Re: Iran's Consulate Raided In Iraq By The Coalition Troops by TayoD(m): 10:36pm On Jan 14, 2007 |
Don't have time for blind arguement.It is obvious that you have a problem separating issues from personalities. How does you lies connect with Bush or the election in the U.S.? Like I said, you have nothing to say other than attack personalities. Keep reveling in your new found love for Bush bashing. I can see the famous Bush Bashing Syndrom is also expressed in the form of outright lies. |
| Foreign Affairs › Re: Iran's Consulate Raided In Iraq By The Coalition Troops by TayoD(m): 3:00pm On Jan 14, 2007 |
Hmm, so the problem is now changing the headline even when I have used the words Laison ofiice at least two times? There is certainly no limit you can go when clearly losing an arguement. Maybe being wrong over and over again means nothing to you.Losing an argument? I am not here to lose or win an argument. I am here to stand for the truth as far as my conscience permits me. I can see you do not mind lying to win your argument with yourself. There is a difference between a Laison Office and an Embassy and I'm sure those who've sided with your wrong premise did so without realising the subtle lie you brought into it. If you agree it is a Liaison Office and not a Consulate or Embassy, why not change it and be accurate in your submission. I guess you don't have to as long as your innacuracy promotes your agenda. Another statement from the wind. I need not go into who has ultimate sovereignty in any nation, it would a total waste of time.As long as you regard your submission that brought my response as only a wind with no matter or substance, then I guess I'm in agreement with you. You will be wasting your time indeed to try and prove the unprovable. You will do better to spend that time in changing the obvious lie you've posted. What I expect to be done is immaterial, what is obvious and the crux of the matter is that the US is wrong in raiding a laison office of another country when the host nation is not the US.And I guess your opinions too are immaterial and very much ill-conceived. You are vey much sounding like the Democrats. all they do is react to Bush's action. They condemn everything done without proposing any alternatives because they have none. |
| Christianity Etc › Re: 'let My Enemies Die By Fire' by TayoD(m): 8:29pm On Jan 13, 2007 |
@bobby1, All of you are talking without inspiration from God's spirit. DOES FIRE ONLY MEAN JUDGEMENT PLS GIVE ME A BREAK WHAT DID JOHN SAID HE SAID HE SHALL BAPTISE YOU WITH THE HOLYSPIRIT AND WITH FIRE. SO, DOES THE FIRE THERE MEAN JUDGEMENT, I DON'T THINK SO.Before you tell us what you think, please let us go to that passage to understand what John was talking about with regards to the baptism by fire. Matthew 3:11 I indeed baptize you with water unto repentance: but he that cometh after me is mightier than I, whose shoes I am not worthy to bear: he shall baptize you with the Holy Ghost, and with fire: 12 Whose fan is in his hand, and he will throughly purge his floor, and gather his wheat into the garner; but he will burn up the chaff with unquenchable fire. The passage explains itself. Jesus coming was to separate the wheat from the chaff. The wheat will be baptised with the Holy Ghost and the chaff will burnt with unquenchable fire. So which one are you? Wheat or chaff. If you are chaff, expect fire unquenchable. As I said, even in this passage, we see that fire represents judgement very clearly. |
| Foreign Affairs › Re: Iran's Consulate Raided In Iraq By The Coalition Troops by TayoD(m): 8:18pm On Jan 13, 2007 |
To avoid the endless tripping, perhaps you should start by changing the headline from Consulate to Liaison office. Secondly, no country has any right to invade another's embassy. The Embassy operates under the rules and jurisdiction of her country and not of its host. That is shifting the goal post to accomodate the lawlessness of the Iranians. And by the way, what do you expect to be done if based on good intelligence the u.s. knows that the Liaison Office is a front for attacks on the U.S. forces? |
| Foreign Affairs › Re: Iran's Consulate Raided In Iraq By The Coalition Troops by TayoD(m): 6:35pm On Jan 13, 2007 |
To begin with what the Iranians did was not what the US did.You are definitely right here. The Iranians invaded the embassy during a time of peace while the U.S. raided a liaison office with possible links to the insurgency in a time of war. The US raided the Iranian Laison office (which represents the country Iran) in Iraq. Iraq being the host country could have gotten away with such action because ultimate sovereignty rests with them and not the US, a foreign country that illegally invaded Iraq.I didn't hear no such cries when other ambassadors and embassies were attacked and taken hostage by the iran-funded insurgency. For your information Iran is not supporting the insurgency in Iraq, Iran is supporting and backing the Shias, even though areas that are predominantly Shiites have fought bitter battles with the US forces, the insurgency is clearly being associated with the Sunnis and Iran cannot possibly be arming the Sunnis.That is the subtle diplomacy being payed out by Iran. Tey supply weapons and training to the insurgency on one hand to kill the U.S. troops, while they stand by their Shias brethren in solidarity to wield political influence. They are playing the game better than the U.S. is doing. |
| Christianity Etc › Re: Pastor Chris Oyakhilome: Interview/Comments by TayoD(m): 3:21pm On Jan 13, 2007 |
@Shahan, I do feel the same way as you. I believe it is on this forum that I also mentioned the fact that Pastor Chris is undoubtedly called and anointed by our Lord. It is on this premise that I find it utmostly reprehensible that he would be involved with that Charlatan called T.B. Joshua at the expense of the household of faith. More than my concern for him is my concern for his flock. I know a lot of them first hand either as family or as friends and I find their allegiance is more to the man than to their Savior. Their Shepherd is unquestionable and unaccountable. While he rightly answers to no man but His Lord, his motives and recent style of ministration suggests a deviation from the Spirit of the Lord. You know the greatest deceit we fall for in the body of Christ is due to the fact that "the gifts and callings of God are without repentance". As a result, even those who are falling from grace will appear to us as in line with God since we still see God's gift in manifestation in their ministries. No doubt, T.B. Joshua as great influence on Pastor Chris which is evidenced by his ministering in the same manner as T.B. I was appalled seeing his healing ministration recently where he started pointing his finger at people and remotely controlling them just like T.B. Joshua does. This I saw myself, and not a hear-say. Something is wrong somewhere and it appears he has severed his relationship with those who could speak the truth to him in love. Others are busy singing his praise and urging him on in the face of error. As you said, I have seen my Pastor even castigated us for not correcting his errors, and I have seen him have us question his motives, actions and associations. I wish this will be the case too. |
| Christianity Etc › Re: Pastor Chris Oyakhilome: Interview/Comments by TayoD(m): 1:50pm On Jan 13, 2007 |
@Shahan, Just curious. You never said anything about his relationship with T.B. Joshua. To me, that is the height of it all. Every other thing pale in comparison to it. Are you afraid to make categorical statements as many are? |
| Christianity Etc › Re: The Truth Most Christians Dont Know by TayoD(m): 1:46pm On Jan 13, 2007 |
Shahan, Good Word up there, good Word. I particularly love your references in the Gospels to him that meant to justify himself. It's as if I've never seen that scripture before. What a blessing!!!!!!!!!!!! Seun, If you are really interested in this topic, please read up the Book of Romans. Apostle Paul dealt with it in details. |
| Foreign Affairs › Re: Iran's Consulate Raided In Iraq By The Coalition Troops by TayoD(m): 1:38pm On Jan 13, 2007 |
had thought that consulates/embassies are treated as areas where the foreign nations have total control over.You should have said this to the Iranians when they raided the American Embassy some years back while holding the occupants for 444 straight days. And for your information, it was the liaison office that was raided which is not anything near an embassy or consulate. I hope you know the difference. I do not blame the U.S. for their action knowing the antecedents of the Iranians. These are the same people who fund a terrorist organisation as Hezbollah to install and operate military bases in civilian neighbourhoods. This and many more has shown that thier actions are never based on moral principles and guided by gentlemany conduct. I would raid any fronted liaison office which intelligence proves is being used to arm my troops. Bush has nothing to lose anymore and will do all he can to reduce U.S. casualties in Iraq while trying to stabilise the government. Based on the reports, it is clear that there has been evidence of illegal activities in this liaison office for a while now, but the U.S. Administration's new policy effectively removes the limiting factors that hindered their ability to take proactive action against the insurgents being allegedly supported and armed by Iran. |
| Christianity Etc › Re: Pastor Chris Oyakhilome: Interview/Comments by TayoD(m): 12:37am On Jan 13, 2007 |
And by the way, Dagon fell face down when placed in the same room with the Ark of Covenant. How the spirit behind T.B. Joshua can manifest to minister side by side with Oyaks tells me that one person is compromised. So who is influencing who I ask? Before you answer my question please remember 1 Corinthians 15:33 Be not deceived: evil communications corrupt good manners. |
| Christianity Etc › Re: Pastor Chris Oyakhilome: Interview/Comments by TayoD(m): 12:26am On Jan 13, 2007 |
@akintos_s, @TayoDOh, so your pastor is now Jesus Christ personified that He now becomes the prick to be kicked against? Na wa o. Revel in delusion. When you wake up, let me know. Why is he a rare gift I ask? So God has begun to hoard His gifts hen? There is no words of wisdom in swallowing hook, line and sinker the words of a man who claims to see everything but unable to see the charlatan that T.B. Joshua is. Why should I allow one who can minister under the same spirit that is behind T.B. Joshua to minister to me? |
| Christianity Etc › Re: 'let My Enemies Die By Fire' by TayoD(m): 12:19am On Jan 13, 2007 |
The funny thing is that fire in the Bible always signify judgement. I am sure these folks know nothing about it else they will be very careful how they use that term. My first real contact with these Christians was on a trip to Ibadan during my final year at U.I. The guy just finished preaching and started giving out prayer points. One that he gave that I will never forget goes like this: O God of fire, Send down your fire Turn me to fire In this mountain of fire. If he was a knowledgeable person who substitutes that fire with judgement, then he would have realised that this is what he is saying: O God of judgment Send down your judgment Turn me to judgment In this mountain of judgment.  I rest my case. |
| Christianity Etc › Re: The Truth Most Christians Dont Know by TayoD(m): 5:15pm On Jan 12, 2007 |
Let's suppose a Christian is having sex with his best friend's wife right now. Does God still see him as sinless?1 John 1:9 If we confess our sins, he is faithful and just to forgive us our sins, and to cleanse us from ALL unrighteousness. |
| Christianity Etc › Re: Pre-Marital Sex Is Not Fornication by TayoD(m): 9:58pm On Jan 11, 2007 |
@Reverend, When are you gonna stop monkeying around  . |
| Christianity Etc › Re: Pre-Marital Sex Is Not Fornication by TayoD(m): 9:30pm On Jan 11, 2007 |
My point is, if you are committed to be married to someone, then having sex with that person does not mean you are a fornicator.Joseph was commited to be married to Mary, but still never had sex with her. If you've read the songs of solomon, there is a major theme there that says: "Do not awaken love until it is time". This is a refernce to sex. Although I do not condone sex with multiple partners, sex with your boyfriend or fiancee is fine, as long as you are both committed to each other and monogamousDo you realise all these are your personal opinions and not the Bible? Where does the scripture says you can have sex with your fiancess if you are both commited? Rather the Bible says if you are in commitment to your spouse and are feeling uncontraolable sexual urges, you should go ahead and get married in order to avoid fornication. See 1 Corinthians 7:36 If anyone thinks he is acting improperly toward the virgin he is engaged to, and if she is getting along in years and he feels he ought to marry, he should do as he wants. He is not sinning. They should get married. 1 Like |
| Christianity Etc › Re: Pre-Marital Sex Is Not Fornication by TayoD(m): 9:17pm On Jan 11, 2007 |
ToH, Shey you know that I have nothing but love for you sha. And by the way, I hope you see the fact that you are as guilty of personal attacks as the other person you may be accusing on nairaland. Trini_baby, Who attacked you personally? Definitely not me. There are times you have to know where a person is coming from in order to understand why they think the way they do. We know the Rev's antecedents and are not surprised by his statements on nairaland. I just have a strong feeling that you are trying to justify what you are doing by quoting the Bible in the face of obvious contradictions. |
| Christianity Etc › Re: Pre-Marital Sex Is Not Fornication by TayoD(m): 9:06pm On Jan 11, 2007 |
ToH, Our paths have crossed again. And yet again you have pre-judged me. You are getting too predictable girl. Spice things up a little bit more. |
| Christianity Etc › Re: Pre-Marital Sex Is Not Fornication by TayoD(m): 8:52pm On Jan 11, 2007 |
@Trini_girl, You don't need to get angry about my question. The reason why I ask is to let you consider the possibility that your stand might just be a means of providing biblical proofs to continue in the way of life you are living. You don't make the Bible conform to your thoughts, beliefs and practice rather, you let the bible guide your thoughts, belief and practice. You can ask me any question you wanna ask. The Bible says that which is made manifest is light. |
| Christianity Etc › Re: Pre-Marital Sex Is Not Fornication by TayoD(m): 8:37pm On Jan 11, 2007 |
trini_girl, One question. Are you in any sexual relationship now? I assume you are not married. |
| Politics › Re: Video Apparently Showing Hussein Wounds Emerges by TayoD(m): 8:26pm On Jan 11, 2007 |
@Donzman, You are obviously not following this conversation. My mention of the Abu Graib situation was in response to your statement that: Even though we all know they're guilty, I'll bet ghat they won't come anything close to dying. That those former got punished when their guilt was established should tell you that the latter will not be let off the hook if found guilty. And by the way, this is not about the U.S. being willing to do one way or the other, it's about the law taking its course. Even Saddam was allowed to have his day in court. What issue at hand am I not dealing with? Is it the fact that I fail to call mutilation touture? Or is it the fact that I stand by the decision of the Iraq constitution and court to execute (not assasinate) a guilty person? When I exposed the baselessness of your accusations, you shifted ground to a few soldiers in the U.S. Army who are being punished for their actions. So what more do you want? It appears you will not be satisfied until the U.S. is crucified for what you perceive to be a crime they have not commited? |
| Christianity Etc › Re: Church Structure & Sole Authority Pastors by TayoD(m): 7:16pm On Jan 11, 2007 |
" The contemporary structure much beloved in many churches whereby a "pastor" has sole authority" is without scriptural basis, thoroughly unbiblical, and a man-made contraption"May I return the serve with this: The concept of "eldership" is a carry over of a a system of governance from Judaism into the Church of Christ. No where do we find in the N.T. where the Lord called any one to be an Elder; rather He calls people into various offices such as the so-called five-fold ministry (for the edification of the Body of Christ), and endow others with gifts such as the gift of government, helps etc. Just like the Deacons, Elders were appointed to meet the needs of a growing community of faith. The needs and peculiarities of the present day church will also necessitate the need for different style of government and administration. While the nomenclature may be different, the purpose essentially remain the same: meeting the needs of the body of Christ. |
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