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@Condom,

Irrespective of Harry and manliness's homosexual sentiments, marriage remains a priviledge and not a right.

GBAM to the power of infinity!!!!

@topic,

The key phrase here is REGIONAL HEADQUARTERS.

@Montelik,

Beautiful response up there.

I must make particular mention about the charge that Fox was responsible for the firing. My first thought was that Fox had not even aired the speech when she was axed. While I didn't know that for sure, I am not surprised that you confirmed my suspicion. The Poster of this thread has proven to be a reliable courier of left wing propaganda.

@topic,
Of course they should be afraid of Fox News; they are the only News Network that does not receive their talking points from the. White House. If there is any person or entity Liberals fear, it is those that refuse to conform.
Liberals love cookie-cuts for the purpose of social engineering. Those who do not comply become threats and are threatened.

@Ayatollah Ikomi,

For once in this forum you made me laugh. Seems[b] your [/b] becoming rational

Let me tell you what is not a laughing matter.  It is your inability to construct simple sentences and write them out in english.  How many times do I have to correct you on nairaland?  The word in bold should be "you're" and not "your."  I have advised you several times to use simple english when writing.  It appears that is even above your pay grade.

His a major freelance i.d.i.o.t.

Same mistake here again. The word in bold should be "He's" and not "His".  Now who is the he-goat (i.diot) here?

@Negro,

Tayo and Dayokanu,

Here is a list of few countries where US, acting alone or in treaty with major European partners, have gone in and re-distributed resources and growth:

South Africa
Kenya
Morrocco
South Korea
Israel
Brazil
Argentina

So tell me, in how many of these countries do the US set up a Dept of social services to distribute aid to the citizens? Isn't everything done through the govt? Same aid given to these countries is given to Haiti, Mexico etc. Why are some prospering and others aren't? Does it have anything to do with the govt?

Tayo, what did you major in? Please dont tell me economics or pol. science. . .and it had better not be international relations!

Let me guess. You major in all of the above, baa?

@Negro,

Unlike tpiah, I see absolutely no sense to what you wrote above. You have only made several assertions that cannot be backed up with facts.

How old is the US that you claim it has over the centuries, been going across the globe to destroy the growth and prosperity of others? What alternate universe do you live in?

How can you ask the US to re-distribute wealth all across the globe and be responsible for other nations when it finds it hard to even sustain its social obligations?  Have you checked recently to see that the ratio of the US debt to GDP is greater than 1?

What natural resource are these people seeking here that is not available in their country? Mexico's problem is not its lack of natural resources as the US or Canada, but political corruption in high places.  Do you also want us to redistribute our politicians around the world to take care of the problem?  Or should we invade evrey nation like we did in Iraq to install our kind of democracy and impose our morality upon them?

@dayokanu,

I wonder why you woul doubt this statement. I dont know about Boston but in the South, Its these guys that cut lawns, Work the dirty factory jobs, Most people who clean the restrooms are hispanics in the organisations I have worked with

I am in agreement with JeSoul on this matter. The only reason why Americans are not doing those jobs is because they do not pay well enough.  If the pay was up to $15/hr, I am sure people will readily take it up.  But as it is, the availability of abundant cheap labor drives the wages down which makes it less attractive to people who would otherwise do the job.

If Americans want to get paid $40/hr for cutting lawns and working in Taco cabanas and illegals offer to do it for $10/hr should corporations be forced to pay the $40 because There are Americans who can do it?

The market has a way of correcting itself. At $40/hr, very likely that I would even take up the job on a part-time basis !  The high wage will drive more people to the profession which will eventually lead to higher supply of manpower than demand.  This will drive down the wages till an equilibrium is reached.

This one wuld be difficult. What kind of job wont you find someone skilled enough in 300million people? I think employers should pick from the pool based on how competitive the desired wage is.

But there is no level playing field where illegals are made to compete with legal residents.  Besides, the over-abundance of these human resources will necessaily drive wages down leading to lower standard of living for all concerned.  Nigeria, and most countries have laws that prohibit employing foreigners to do the job that a local resident has the skill and knowledge to do. The same safe-guard can be put in place in this case.

@topic,

1. None of the Illegals should be granted citizenship. You shouldn't reward acts of illegality with citizenship.
2. Provide the illegals with work permits that should be renewed every 5 years.
3. None of them should be offered a job until it can be proven that no citizen is skilled enough and available for the job.
4. They should never be allowed to vote. If they are here for economic reasons as we are told to believe, why participate in the political process?

The above points addresses the humanitarian concerns while been realistic of the problem of deporting all the criminal aliens.

@pres-elect,

i have no claims to a monopoly of knowledge. but i often find time to check and cross check. and i find that the US has accepted foreign asistance
But the State Department said it was considering all offers of aid with care.

"All offers of assistance are considered promptly and carefully, are expedited if needed, and are appreciated greatly by the American people as we address this threat to our Gulf Coast," it said in a statement.


your response pls

“The embassy got a nice letter from the administration that said, ‘Thanks, but no thanks,’” said Geert Visser, consul general for the Netherlands in Houston.

Now, almost seven weeks later, as the oil spewing from the battered well spreads across the Gulf and soils pristine beaches and coastline, BP and our government have reconsidered.

U.S. ships are being outfitted this week with four pairs of the skimming booms airlifted from the Netherlands and should be deployed within days. Each pair can process 5 million gallons of water a day, removing 20,000 tons of oil and sludge.

At that rate, how much more oil could have been removed from the Gulf during the past month?

The uncoordinated response to an offer of assistance has become characteristic of this disaster’s response. Too often, BP and the government don’t seem to know what the other is doing, and the response has seemed too slow and too confused. - http://politicallore.com/blog/?p=1862

One can only wonder, did he refuse the help to create such a situation that will help him further his agenda? To think he has used this disaster to now press for a cap 'n trade legislation while putting a moratorium on off-shore drilling.

also, last time i checked, the US is not the one that decides which approach is used to stop the spill. it was BP who talked of top-hat, hot-tap etc methods. the govt is not designed to stop spills. unless the govt has been expanded.

Tell me, was it Tony Hayward that refused to give permission to Jindal when he planned an appropriate response to fight the spill?  BP never does anything until it is approved by Obama.  Here is an excerpt of Obama's speech: "Right now, we’re still within the window where we don’t yet know the outcome of the highly complex top kill procedure that the federal government authorized BP to use to try to stop the leak."  As you can see, until the authority is given by Obama, BP cannot do anything.

@pres-elect,

yeah right mr tayo d

Me, right? Now you've mistaken me for Obama. last I checked, he is the one that is always right when it comes to you liberals.

obama has been golfing, and tennissing and musical concerting all these weeks . . . . innit?

This is the most accurate statement you've made so far. Let's ignore the sarcasm.

but he's been to the gulf 4-5times, he pushed BP to agree to a $20b pay to ease the pain of the region. even though he does not care about them
he has sent the national guard there, he appointed a guy to take charge there on daily basis . . even though he doesnt care about them. right? . .
tayo d you dey try. let me tell you this, obama is not, and will never be, jesus christ. (even though sometimes i think he feels he's the saviour of the world and champion of world peace)

At least, no one has accused him of hating the people of the Gulf like Bush was accused of hating Black people after Katrina. Yep, those 4-5 times were very good photo-ops for him. No one is asking Obama to be Jesus Christ (na yams?). Neither are we asking him to be the Comforter (even though disillusioned people like nopuqeater has found comfort in Moammed). What we are asking him to do is to either help or get out of the way. From what I understand, he has even given orders that the sand dredging being done to protect the shores should be stopped outright.

Admit it. Obama is just as incompetent, if not more so as Bush!

^^^^^

I am on the side of Jesus, Muhammad, and the previous prophets and messengers (AS).

Stop using Jesus and Mohammed in the same sentence.  One is an exemplary leader who led by example.  The other is a hypocritical, blood thirsty and pedophilic sex pervet.  I guess we don't have to say who is who.  Everyone knows which cap fits whom.

@pres-elect,

BP is responsible for this spill and they should pay for it as you accept. there is no law against tony hayward going on vacation, but all i said is that given the circumstances . . it is inappropriate. if i were in his shoes, i would rather go on vacation in england, away from the US. doing it here looks like insult upon injury.

Your problem, just like Ayatollah Ikomi, is mal-information.  The only difference betweeen you two is that you are a likeable fellow.  Wrong-headed, but likeable.  Tony Hayward spent the holiday in England. What is so wrong with him spending Father's Day with his son?

but in your characteristic manner, the only way to justify what he did is to say obama went on holiday too. as long as Obama is attacked, blamed, berated . . its all good for you   . . I understand.  . . there are people i hate too   . . and i feel the same way about them too  . .

I am not justifying his actions by comparing it to Obama's.  Infact, I justify his action and condemn Obama's.  That is the only time Tony Hayward went on holiday since the oil spill disaster. Spending time with his son on Father's day seems very reasonable to me. Obama on the other hand, has been playing golf, hosting musical concerst etc.  All these while people are still waiting on him to get permission to protect their shoreline.  That is outright wrong,

By the way, do not project your hate on me.  I do not hate anybody.  That you do does not mean same applies to me.

infact i'm begining to suspect that someone is behind all this problems obama is having. note that there is only one top foreing policy official that mccrystal did not insult . . . hmmmn, i smell a rat

Of course the problem is anybody but Obama. When are you guys going to start taking responsibilities? 

“It’s kind of like a kid coming to school saying, ‘The dog ate my homework,’ ” Mr. Bush, this state’s former governor, said over lunch last week at the Biltmore Hotel. “It’s childish. This is what children do until they mature. They don’t accept responsibility.” - http://www.nytimes.com/2010/06/23/us/politics/23bai.html

@montelik,

@ Pres & Tayo-D. Please don't derail this thread with partisan bickering. For over 4 pages now most people have made positive contributions without any issue. . If nah by force, move it to another thread, please.

See me see montelik o. I had to check this thread again to be sure I am reading you right. You mean there should be no partisan bickering in what is supposed to be a POLITICS section? You have left me perplexed, marooned, taken aback, astounded and flabbergasted all at the same time!!!!

@kobokunkie,

After all the speculations about whether you are a male or female, you have finally laid the debate to rest on your profile. I hope I wasn't mean to you at some point in time o. I'm sure my mannerism towards you would have been more gentle if I had suspected you are female.

@topic,

I do not support what the General did, even though none of the statement made were directly attributed to him in a formal interview. However, I think he has been frustrated enough by the WH that he felt the only way to make these bunch of Community Organizers pay attention is to throw this stunt. It's unfortunate that our enemies sem to be united while we are apparently in disarray. This does not bode well for the war in Afghanistan.

@pres-elect,

You have started to argue again, not based on reality but emotion. Please tell us if Tony Hayward or Obama is responsible for the following.

1. Temporarily lifting the Jones Act to allow help from other nations immediately following the disaster.
2. Who was responsible for turning down help from other countries immediately following the disaster?
3. Who did not provide Louisiana the needed permit to protect their shores following the spill?
4. Who awarded this particular rig a top safety award?
5. Who is responsible to guard the US Coast from events such as this?
6. Who declared that he is in charge of the response?
7. Who makes the final decision on what approach is adopted to fight the spill?

The answer to ALL the above is Obama. So how could he have the time for all that partying and Tony Hayward can't even take one weekend off to spend with his family?

While BP will be paying for the cleanup (and rightly so if I may add), one can only wonder, what about the billions they have paid in taxes? Shouldn't some of that have been set aside to deal with this kind of inevitability that comes from pushing the oil companies into the sea when we have abundant sources of oil on land?

@dayokanu,

The BP CEO was shown on his yacht racing yesterday.

What an EPIC fail

So tell me, what do you think of Obama who has been playing golf, having parties, playing basketball and watching soccer during what he called "an unprecedented ecological disaster of our time"?

@ nopuqeater,

You mean that is the best effort you can muster to defend the sexual pervesion of your idol? Talk about slapping lipstick on a pig. No mattter how much you want us to focus on the lipstick, we cannot get past the fact that all that make-up is being done to give a pig a facelift!! Aint gonna work.

@nopuqeater,

You want a lesson in morality?  I certainly won't take mine from the so-called prophet Mohammed.

1.  Unlike Mohammed, I will not marry or sleep with a 9 year old girl.
2.  Unlike Mohammed, I will not sleep with my son's wife.
3.  Unlike Mohammed, I will not kill people's husbands while taking their widows for wives.
4.  Unlike Mohammed, I will not marry widows while instructing that no one should marry mine.
5.  Unlike Mohammed, I will not teach people to only have four wives and yet marry at least eleven.
6.  Unlike Mohammed, I will not codify my sexual fantasies and sell them to gullible millions as a bonus of heaven.

With your sexual deviance, I can imagine why you will follow such a Prophet.

@nopuqeater,

It is obvious that I am giving you some legitimacy by responding to your ramblings.

One thing is for sure, even you recognize that the allah your pedophilic prophet preached about is different from Jehovah. Your allah is so sexually perverted that he has set aside virgins for his hordes of followers to fulfil their lusts even in his heaven. Jehovah on the other hand clearly says that such thought is heretic. He says we will be like Angels in Heaven where there is nothing like the sexaul fantasy your Mohammed dreamt about.

I have no time to waste responding to all your ramblings above. It is such an headache to even make sense of your disjointed responses.

@nopuqeater,

My cat, though a member of the feline family like the lion, is not a lion even though I call it one. That Mohammed called the spirit behind his revelations "God" does not make that spirit the real God. Everytime a muslim refers to "allah", it is a reference to Mohammed's god whcih is different than the Jehovah revealed in the Bible. Their characters are different, their prioritites are different, the heaven they both revealed are different, etc,

@topic,
There is nothing wrong with providing aid to Gaza. What is wrong is using the Gaza people as pawns to achieve a political and religious goal.

@nopuqueater,
How can you use God, Moses, David on the one hand, and thend Mohammed in the same sentence? What correlation has Jehovah with Mohammed's allah?

@Ayatollah Ikomi,

Tayo-D your case is worse.

This coming from someone who sided with Ibime when he, like Afam thought the best way to express his disagreement with my point was to abuse my parents. Talk about a hypocrite.

Didn't you say that addressing me again on nairaland will be proof that something must be wrong with you? While I have known that looong before your post, I am sure the doubts in many hearts have now been jettisoned by your words and subsequnt inability to live up to the standard you set for yourself.

@Dayokanu,

Its so obvious Afam Nnaji is a retard.

The money spent on rehabilitating you would have been better used to supply condoms to baboons like your father

I understand your outrage but I think it is time you dropped this attack on Afam's parents.  Someone just coming into this thread will not understand that Afam attacked your parents first because the moderators have been sensible enough to sanction and delete Afam's initial posts.

I always say that those who initiate attacks on another's parents only reveal how little regard they have for theirs.  This is easy to see because you will invite others to attack your parents when you initiate attack on theirs.  I know you are only responding in kind, but still, it is better to take the high and honorable road by ignoring such attacks.  Honor the parents of the attacker even if they do not honor their parents. 

The moderators of this forum always do the right thing by sanctioning those who initiate attacks on others' parents.  Report to the moderator and don't drag yourself down to the same level as those who obviously have no regards for their parents, talkless of others'.

Your response makes you appear as classless as the one who started this outrage. I don't think you need that. Just my 2 cents.

@dayokanu,

I think the clueless BP boss deserves more. Americans dont mince words and how do you think Obama would feel when some BP is threatening the already volatile job situation and this spill has been tagged Obamas Katrina, Maybe potential loses at the polls if not well managed.

Please do not equate brashness with frankness.  Imagine the following scenario:

Junior - Stop that or I'm gonna kick your backside
Mummy - Don't ever let me hear you use that word again Junior
Junior - Why not mummy? I heard the President say the same thing on Primetime TV

BP's boss should actually stay on the gulf coast and inhale those crude to know hoe people feel from Louisiana, to Alabama, to missisipi and now Florida

I don't think there is a need for that. This thing is nothing but an accident. We are human beings.  Accidents do happen. And by the way, you cannot totally blame BP for this mess. The govt is complicit in this wahala. One wonders why these oil companies are forced to go so far offshore and go so deep to explore for oil when we have abundant oil onshore. Just something to consider while nailing BP to the cross.

@Ayatollah Ikomi,

Some people just make others look so good.  It took just an hour after I predicted the following: "Personal attacks will still continue despite my effort to steer the discussion on points" for it to be fulfilled.  I am glad that the veil is now removed and we can see the idiot for who he really is. 

Now let us chronicle the entry and exit of the idiot who is calling others idiots just to deflect attention from his idiocy.

Enter the idiot on June 8, 9:15pm: "The same old CIA games of abduction, secret spies and assassination is back".

Exit the idiot today at 12:42pm: "how he got there is the big question. me and you cannot answer that, but to claim you know it with a silly youtube video is simply being ignorant of how the real world works."

I am sure your idiocy is evidenced for all to see  in the two quotes above.  First you made a categorical statement saying the CIA is behind the abduction and then declare that you are in no position to make such a conclusion.  How confused can you be?

It is my believe that you have completely lost the plot.

The word in bold should be BELIEF and not BELIEVE.  How many times do I have to educate you here on nairaland?  Do I have to start lecturing you about the proper use of nouns and verbs?

@JeSoul,

Hehe . . . not sure if I caught that drift but . . . are you Ahmendinejad's 24th son from his 4th wife?

I guess your inability to catch drifts must be your achilles heel Hercules  .  Catch my drift?

@topic,

There are at least 4 parties involved in this plot.  The United States (the accused); Saudi Arabia (also the accused); Iran (the accuser) and the Scientist (the victim).

From all indications, there are contradictory evidences with regard to whether the scientist was abducted by the US and Saudi Arabia.  Here are my observations:

1. The title of this thread would have been better served by including the word "allegedly." That is: "America ALLEGEDLY Abducts Iranian Nuclear Scientist"

2. Why is Saudi Arabia left off the hook by those who are assailing the US for the alleged kidnapping?

3. Is kidnapping the crime or the nationality of the parties involved? Afterall, Saudi Arabia is an active participant in the alleged crime, and yet they are left off the hook.

4. Based on the three points listed above, it is clear that old prejudice, and not a reasonable analysis of the reported information  forms the basis of most reaction and presentation of this topic thus far.

5. Personal attacks will still continue despite my effort to steer the discussion on points.

@Ayatollah Ikomi,

I thought you had gone for treatment after diagnosing yourself the last time.  You acknowledged that something must be wrong with you if you ever address me again on nairaland.  Has your problem been compounded by the cheap pyschiatrist you visited?

For someone who uses "hercules" in place of "achilles heel" in an idiomatic expression, and still insists that he is right, I don't think this is where you should be found on nairaland.  For your information, there is the romance and jokes session. You will surely blend in there. _{Apologies to other users of that section.}

@Cohomology,

The boldfaced excludes you from any serious dialogue.

Is that so? Could it be that the statement he made is so untrue or you are one of those who thinks plagiarism is overated?

@topic,

I just saw that Flotilla Choir Video. Men is it hilarious. I learnt from Rush Limbaugh that the best way to illustrate absurdity is to be absurd. These guys have just made an excellent work of this truth.

In such a crazy world, I can go to bed smiling laughing, thanks to the video.

@Beaf,

Representatives of the international press accuse Israel of editing videos and other evidence, therefore, it is very unwise to rely on video evidence (those released by Turkey as well) until there is an international inquiry by the UN.

While all they have to show are unsubstantiated claims and allegations, we now have facts to prove that these so-called international press actually edited the pictures they posted online to hide the brazen attack of the so-called peace activists - http://www.foxnews.com/world/2010/06/08/reuters-fake-photos-ihh-gaza-blockade-commandos/

Which one are you going to believe, unsubstatiated allegations or proven facts?