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AntiChristian:
Make it make sense.

If you're saved by God's mercy then you don't need works!

If it's works then works can attract God's mercy! But where Jesus talk am?

Of course with God all things are possible. But will God make the rich man obey the commandments? Will God make the rich ruler sell all he has and give the poor to follow Jesus?

Another verse to help you.
John 1.12
But as many as received him, to them gave he power to become the sons of God, even to them that believe on his name:
The power to salvation comes from God but the grace is given to his followers.

AntiChristian:
Make it make sense.

If you're saved by God's mercy then you don't need works!

If it's works then works can attract God's mercy! But where Jesus talk am?

Of course with God all things are possible. But will God make the rich man obey the commandments? Will God make the rich ruler sell all he has and give the poor to follow Jesus?

Jesus tells you that as a man, it is impossible to attain salvation but with God salvation is possible. Does that not make Sense to you?
Now let's put all the information together. Your good works can't save you. Only God's grace can but God gives his grace to those who work and make effort.
Does it make sense now?

AntiChristian:
This is another discussion entirely. Is salvation by God's mercy or works?

The rich ruler that asked Jesus of eternal life, the first thing Jesus told him was to obey the commandments! This is works! Then Jesus said he should sell everything he had and give to the poor and follow him!

Where did Jesus preached God's mercy plus grace?

But I answered you already both are right. Both are scriptural.
Let's go back to the teachings of Jesus Christ in the rich rulers story you quoted.
After his followers asked him, Who then can be saved? In verse 25 he replied
But Jesus beheld them, and said unto them, With men this is impossible; but with God all things are possible.
So with your effort alone you can't be saved. This pretty much answers your question.

AntiChristian:
No it doesn't except you can show me where Jesus preached both at the same time to somebody!

You seem confused bro Jesus Christ preached and his apostles continued his words. Hope you know that all scripture is inspired of God. It's the same source. If you understand that all scripture is from the same source then your confusion will be over and you will understand.
2Tim. 3 Verses 16
[16] All scripture is given by inspiration of God, and is profitable for doctrine, for reproof, for correction, for instruction in righteousness:
There is a reason why the bible did not end in Genesis. God continued to reveal more of his words up till revelations. Your ability to understand and accept this makes you a Christian

SharonLoveth:
Salvation is beyond your understanding if you are still under demonic spirits that visited Muhammad in cave!

Just because you don't know the answer to his question doesn't warrant insults.
You should use this very good question as an opportunity to learn more and understand the bible better and not as an opportunity to fight.
He is not a Christian but he asked a very good question that most christians should be asking.

AntiChristian:
Jesus says:
Not everyone who says to Me, ‘Lord, Lord,’ will enter the kingdom of heaven, but only he who does the will of My Father in heaven. Many will say to Me on that day, ‘Lord, Lord, did we not prophesy in Your name, and in Your name drive out demons and perform many miracles?
(Matthew 27:21-22)

Paul's guy Luke reported that Jesus answered saying: “Work hard to enter the narrow door to God’s Kingdom, for many will try to enter but will fail. (Luke 13:24)

Jesus emphasizes doing the will of the father as a condition to enter the Kingdom of heaven!

Paul says
For He says to Moses: “I will have mercy on whom I have mercy, and I will have compassion on whom I have compassion.” So then, it does not depend on man’s desire or effort, but on God’s mercy. (Romans 9:15-16)

Paul says it's by God's mercy oooooooooo!

Is it by God's mercy or by doing God's will aka works?

You always ask great questions. So here is the answer. Both Jesus Christ and Paul were inspired by the Holy Ghost so they are both right.
Salvation comes by grace after you have done all that you can. I hope this puts your confusion to rest.

nairalanda1:
Because they are politicans, and most of nigeria prefers cheap fuel, damm the consequences...and politicans will do anything...including sacrificing the economy to Molech, to see that they win elections next season

SO, subsidy, even before 2015. We have lost billions over decades from this madness called subsidy.

Subsidy was never the problem. We are not the only country practicing subsidy. In fact, almost every country practices one form of subsidy or the other. The only problem here is that we failed to take advantage of our huge energy reserves. We failed to produce energy at home and depend on imported fuels.

lordm:
Plant plantain Na. It's one of the easiest food to farm. It bears easily and does not stress. Stop depending on Tinubu. He is clueless

How many people in the cities have access to land and time. You resume office by 8am and close by 6pm and you want to add farming unto. It's really shity to be a Nigerian.

obonujoker:
Hope you know if you'd become a born again, you'd stop Djaying Secular songs

Acts 15
10 Now therefore why tempt ye God, to put a yoke upon the neck of the disciples, which neither our fathers nor we were able to bear

Stop adding yokes upon your head. Who said a born again can't listen to secular music

mustyNEMESIS:
Sentiments aside, I believe this should be expected. NNPC is now a private/for-profit organization, not state owned anymore… so the directors should now earn what their counterparts in the private sector earns.

I believe they are now entitled to enjoy all the perks not available to a public official.

Also, naira devaluation might be a factor.

I really do feel sad for some parents… Knowing how most parents hustle and struggle, denying themselves of essential needs just to train their wards through daycare, kindergarten, basic/primary, secondary school, college/university, and then only for the kid to turn out to be a nuisance to the society.

Some parents end up regretting not using condom that particular day some peeps were conceived…

An example is the idiot right below my comment. Disgracing his parents both online and offline. I really do not envy you… it takes a lot of stupidity to show ones foolishness on a public forum.

Oga did the FG sell their shares in the company?
You claim it's a private company so can you tell us the new owners since it is not a public company.
Please stop mixing up things. The Nigerian National Petroleum Company (NNPC) Limited is a state oil company in Nigeria. Still a fully-owned government company, it was transformed from into a limited liability company in July 2022. NNPC Limited is the only entity licensed to operate in the country's petroleum industry.

DevilsEqual:


12th wonder of the world
Adopting a distant cousin or an orphan would make more sense

Its not even about the "Spending your money anyhow you want", its about humanity

We all have different passions. If we all follow our positive Passions, be it caring for elephants or for humans, the world will be a better place.
I never expect another person to have the same interest as I do.

adekolaelect:
Let start Teaching with local languages . Many Nigerians are talented to invent and make good things with their local languages . English is not useful in china before they made lives , English language can not produce food and wealth for our societies. Education is the Bed rock of humanity but not languages . It is very difficult for people to fail if they are trained and educate in their own languages.

I beg to disagree. I have been to China and I can tell you that Chinese spend a lot on English teachers. The world is now a global village and English is the language of business.
An English speaker will always have the advantage over speakers of other languages.
Your native language has little or no advantage outside your home or immediate community.

Thundafireseun:
At what age did you Think Mary mother of Jesus gave birth to Jesus??

Definitely not 9 you sick animals.

Krismas:
Natanyahu hiding in a bunker to make useless speeches? In April wen Iran first attacked he ran away to hide in Jordan. Idiot do u even know how to use google? Why don’t u check Israelis that have left Israel since Oct7 as released by Israeli authorities themselves? All you do is talk nonsense, assuming foolishly to yourself that ur wishful thinking is the truth

You realize you are making a fool of yourself right. Even your other pro Hamas guys are ashamed of you. Please learn to do some research before vomiting what you heard in a beer palour.

Krismas:
U don’t have long to wait again for u start to see how right I am.
Israel has no prospect in Palestine

You talk like a baby but then you have the right to dream.

Krismas:
700yrs is too few sef. The koko be say, no Jewish state will survive in Palestine. Facts.
Israel will be uprooted like all other usurper and adventurer who ever sought to conquer and despoil Palestine.
From the river to the sea, Palestine is all you will see. No matter how long it will take

Dream on child . I can't argue with your dreams

Krismas:
I know you are dull. Natanyahu is NOT as confident as you on the matters you ignorantly speak about.
3Million Jews have fled Israel since Oct7. Tell me again about Palestinian displacement and homelessness. The whole Gaza is not more than 2million!
Right b4 ur eyes you witnessing the destruction of the Zionist dream and u can’t even recognize it?
Idiot, Bunkers are opened in Israel he is still arguing blindly. Place my statement in google and see how foolish u are.
The whole lot of u genocidal supporters will be put to shame eventually wen the truth about Israel’s wretchedness dawn on you.

Goat
Natanyahu is far more confident than I am please listen to any of his speeches. And 3 million Jews fled their homes only in your dreams.
We've begged you to stop listening to beer palour need but u no gree.
On the other hand, almost all of Gaza have fled from their homes.

Krismas:
Useless fool.
What is 76+76 yrs in the life of a nation?
It took 700yrs to uproot Seleucid Empire From the Levant. Today, who even remember Seleucid once reigned in Palestine? Israel will fail eventually. It has no future in the Levant

Keep waiting for 700 years idiot.

Krismas:
Sore loser? Even Natanyahu will not dare to call me dat.
You and you kind are the reason why 62thousand businesses have closed in Israel
Why over 300thousand IDF have either been killed or wounded since Oct7
Why over 300thousand internally displaced Israelis exist in both the north and south of Israel
Why more than $100billion have been spent in Gaza yet Hamas is only getting stronger

Why Israelis are living in bunkers now since 10days over the impending Iranian attack which is inevitable
Why Israel is on the brink of ruin from BDS,
Global resentment, and ostracism
Why Israel is losing hitherto strong allies, who have been recognizing Palestinian statehood
If you think killing civilians in Gaza is victory for Israel, you are very stupid indeed

Natanyahu does not know you.
It's funny you claim that Israelis live in bunkers when it's your Hamas masters that live in rat holes. That is the few that are alive.
Keep living in fantasy.
I love the way you lose.
Millions of your people are homeless yet you count it as victory. I have never seen a more foolish person on Nairaland

adioolayi:
Well done to the athletes..

It's clear our sports federations need correct reforms..seems many heading these Federations no really understand their job..they are just there to chop and believe insha'Allah in competitions to win...e no dey work that way..

Some will say Basketball tried because of D'Tigress outing...that will be terrible lie attributing the success of those ladies to the Federation, considering what we read about their planning and logistics..so, its more of the ladies determination to do their thing for themselves.

Going forward, we can pick positives from the way Minister of Sports responded to issues...he has been very active.

He will need to keep up this energy and touchlight all these Federations to ensure they do the right thing at the right time. For example, Athletes training allowances should be paid as at when due , so they can use it for Training..and not when they have reached competition

He has a lot to do...and the recent flashes shows the Minister can actually do it..if he wants to. He should give us good, efficient sports federations.

What is wrong with you? You did not win even a spoon and instead of firing the minister you are picking positives.

Krismas:
Since 1948?
Mumu
1. Those who founded Israel in 1948 are not as brain dead as these daft messianic rabbles ruling Israel now. Infact, back in those days, most of the parties in the Israeli Knesset now, were banned from elections for extremism and incompetence
2. The Arab army on verge of destroying Israel and western hegemony now, are far far stronger than they ever were in 1948.
Really stupid always talking about 1948, 1967, 1956 in 2024.

Fools like you said the same in 1948. You are nothing but a broken record.
It's because people listen to the words of idiots like you that thousands of Palestinians are dying.
Do yourself a favor and read the words of Arab leaders from 1948. They all sounded like you. Sore loser.

Krismas:
How long do u think it took the barbarians to destroy the Roman Empire?
76yrs is wot it took for the Arab armies to develop strong enough to challenge Israel and its western collaborators. And if they fail again, they will develop and try again and again and again UNTIL Israel is DESTROYED. Israel is on a borrowed time in the Levant like every other fake usurping empire b4 it, like Hellenistic empires, the Roman Empire, the Ottoman Empire, the British empire etc. Zionist Empire is equally doomed to extinction in that area. It’s only a matter of time

Keep waiting. Fool. Maybe you need another 76 years

Elsueno:
Personally, unfortunately I can't do anything...but if you think you can kill thousands of innocent men, women, children & go scot free then you are more delusional than I thought.. Israel is extremely evil, demented & satanic country... Imagine celebrating those engaging in SODOMY & also proudly defending it, Encourage homophobic rape of prisoners & proudly recording it.

When confronted, they say anything non-jew is not human & can be killed, raped etc..This what U IP#Bs think would help u monkey niggas achieve Biafra

Child, Israel has been getting away with it since 1948. So clearly you are the delusional and demented one here.
You Hamas slaves can't do nothing but complain on Nairaland.

Krismas:
Mumu
U are ur kind are the reason Israel WILL NOT SURVIVE in the Levant.
Messianic madness bordering on DELUSION that makes psychotic decision makers in Israel disregard all their own military experts and commanders. Israel’s doom is only a breath away

1948 till date is 76 years. You have been losing ever since but somehow, you believe you are winning.
Your delusion is world class. You deserve an award for being an idiot.

Krismas:
Mumu
U are ur kind are the reason Israel WILL NOT SURVIVE in the Levant.
Messianic madness bordering on DELUSION that makes psychotic decision makers in Israel disregard all their own military experts and commanders. Israel’s doom is only a breath away

Kid. Boys like you have been saying this nonsense since 1948. You kids never learn. That's why you are always on the losing end.
You are addicted to losing and failure.

FuckYeyeMods:
Mumu,. It doesn't feel like home for all immigrants in UK right now..
I know you will never care since Muslims are mentioned but woe on to you for not reasoning and not being patriotic enough to know that the rioters storm hotels reserve for asylum seekers and all people of color are targetss

Please check the meaning of the word patriotic. It is better we use words we understand.

Truthissupreme:
hamas Hezbollah doesn't even reveal their members who die cos of shame

Senior leaders for that matter would die and they won't be aware meanwhile Israel would have released the roll call, it would now take terrorists days to "confirm" their incompetence

I am yet to see helavi, chiefs in idf die

Please don't mind that child. He feeds on fake Hamas propaganda.

Elsueno:
That just proves all those civilian casualties in Gaza strip is ABSOLUTELY DELIBERATE ACT TO MASSACRE CIVILIANS

But you can do nothing about it.

Ayatullah:
The cowardly Mossad agents and their collaborators will soon be wiped out and Israeli major cities laid bare like desolate deserts.

U boys have been saying this since the 1940s.

mutvy:
Now that Palestinians fighting for their homeland are now the terrorists and Prophet Muhammad is now who all of you idiotic African slaves of the Hell bound Jews are blaming.
Look here Christians,all of you are seen as Idolators by Jews.Supporting Jews doesn't make you their friends. Hell is made for Christians and Jews. It shall not be well with you all.

This one is looking for Christian support.
Was it the Jews that murdered Deborah Samuel, Bridget Agbahime, Eunice Olawale, or was it the Jews that kidnapped Leah Sharibu and refused to release her because she won't denounce her religion?
I know my enemies and the Jews are definitely not.

DamnnNiggarr:
Peter Obi

cool

Solseal007:
I see deep cover CIA agents providing Intel for mossad

It's not as if you know but yes Israel and the US share a lot of military intelligence. Many times, it's Israel providing the US with the needed intelligence.