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MaxInDHouse:
Abraham and David aren't Christians!

MaxInDHouse:
Guy leave story.

Have you now seen that David is not a Christian?

MaxInDHouse:
Maximus can never change as long as you're not one of Jehovah's Witnesses don't come any close to me thinking you and i can ever be on the same page.

The difference between Christians and Jehovah's Witnesses is the topic of discussion.

God's Servants throughout all generations are all Jehovah's Witnesses but each generation has a group name that makes them part of our family and there is a reason why we are all related.

But claiming Abraham or David is a Christian simply because he worshiped Jehovah makes no practical sense!

MaxInDHouse:
The point is you don't believe in the Bible that's the problem you have so instead of trying to argue blindly just as for knowledge.

From Abel till today we are JEHOVAH'S WITNESSES but each generation of Jehovah's Witnesses bear different group names due to circumstances.
This are the group names Jehovah's Witnesses have been called in times past:

Israelites
Jews
The Way
Christians

From Abel to Job aren't Israelites but they are Jehovah's Witnesses yet the covenant that God made with the Israelites is what makes them dedicated to our God. Abraham is not an Israelite because the name Israel came from his grandson Jacob.
Elijah is not a Jew because he wasn't born into the tribe of Judah or Benjamin yet he is one of Jehovah's Witnesses.
John is a Jew but not a member of the Way or Christian because he never followed Jesus of Nazareth in doing the assignment Jesus gave his disciples but John is one of Jehovah's Witnesses like all others before him! Hebrews 12:1

So get it straight now.
It's the group name JEHOVAH'S WITNESSES that carried all these people together but in each generation they served Jehovah under a different group name!

Michael547:
Oga I never said that christ was wrong in John 14:6. In the Old testament, Christ was not the mediator. Moses was the mediator between God and the people of isrealites. Faithful servants of old were not required to put faith in Jesus to have a Relationship with the Almighty God Jehovah. After Jesus came to the earth, no man could come to the father without Jesus in the New covenant which Jesus is the mediator of.

morgstreme:
Keep quiet,you uninformed kid!

Netanyahu is to be blamed 100% for this present saga..his ego is beginning to get on the nerves of his cabinet and people of Israel.

madridguy:
Kudos to the HAMAS resistance forces. Atleast the terrorists Zionist babies killer will feel the pains the Palestine have been facing.

My deepest condolences to the families of the bravest soldiers fighting for the freedom of Palestine. .. May their precious souls rest in peace.

Michael547:
Oga below In the screenshot are the words of Paul

achorladey:
When the debate is lost, personal attacks resume, their standard mode of operation.

MaxInDHouse:
I have told tctrills countless times that only JWs knows the sacred secrets of God's word but he often flair up with fruitless arguments now he's trying to come back as usual after years of staying away from my threads.

See questions coming from the same person who wants to argue on biblical topics:


https://www.nairaland.com/6970625/does-bible-endorse-human-sacrifice

Michael547:
Oga below In the screenshot are the words of Paul

Michael547:
Oga Jesus is the mediator of the new covenant not the old one. So therefore anyone under the new covenant cannot come to the father except through Christ.


Oga Galatians 3:19 and John 1:17 shows that Moses was the mediator between God and the isrealites. Hebrews 9:15 shows that Jesus is the mediator of the new covenant.


Acts 19:5 shows that those who did John's baptism had to be baptized again into Christ to be called Christians.
Oga you now make Paul a lair. He teaches that there is only one mediator. Again I prefer to believe Paul, not you.


Paul did not say that Christ was the literal rock that isrealites drank from.....Paul clearly stated that the Rock followed the isrealites. He did not say that the isrealites followed the Rock. The Rock symbolizes Christ for Christians.

Michael547:
Oga John 14:6 is part of the law of christ for those who want to have a relationship with his father under the new covenant. It has nothing to do with the mosaic law which moses was the mediator of.

In the mosaic law, Moses was the mediator between the isrealites and God not christ. Hebrews 9:5 shows that christ is the mediator of the new covenant.

1 Corinthians 10:4 likens Jesus to a rock that gives water. It does not say that Jesus was the Rock which was an inanimate object. The water That Jesus gives is spiritual according to John 7:37 not the physical water that the isrealites drank. Don't twist Paul's words.

Michael547:
Show me a verse that says that Moses was a follower of christ.

MaxInDHouse:
The PHARISEES, SADDUCEES, SCRIBES and all Jewish Rabbis believe that the Christ is their LORD but when Jesus came to teach them the things of the CHRIST they rejected it.
So it's only those who followed Jesus and ready to practice what he taught them that are Christians not all those calling him LORD! LORD! Simply because they have heard or seen his glory! Matthew 7:21-23

Michael547:
Oga Stephen was a follower of christ and was part of the church which was under the law of christ. Stephen was therefore a Christian.

MaxInDHouse:
Did David FOLLOW Jesus' TEACHINGS?

Michael547:
Oga I never knew Jesus as person but his earthly records are in the bible and he has established the church in which he is the head of it.

Show me where the bible called faithful men of old Christians so that we can know who is adding to the Bible or giving a new meaning to the word 'Christian'.

MaxInDHouse:
You rightly said Christians are followers of Christ which means those practicing what Jesus taught but how can those who have not heard from him practice what he taught when they are already dead before his coming?

They were faithful servants of God before the era of Christ but they never followed him so they are not Christians!

Michael547:
Faithful servants of old were not Christians. They never knew Jesus as a person and were not under the law of christ and were not required to put faith in Jesus. They Were righteous because they were Worshipped and put faith in the Father of Jesus who is the Almighty God known as Jehovah or Yahweh who later sent Jesus to come to the earth as promised.

MaxInDHouse:
Those putting faith in the Christ who is to come aren't Christians they are putting faith in whom they have not seen or heard from so we can't call them Christians because Christians are followers of Christ not people who have heard about Christ like those ancient prophets heard of him but never saw or heard from him.

For your information the Jews who rejected Jesus of Nazareth have also heard about Christ through prophecies but they refused to follow him because he preached and taught what they find difficult to practice from their own opinion.

Take for instance a Jew who has put faith in the prophecies about the Christ from his youth but by the time he met Jesus in person he refused to become one of his disciples because what he expected isn't what Jesus said. Luke 18:18-23

So just as you have rightly said Christians are followers of Christ not those who have heard about him that's why Jesus could say that all those who have heard about him are lesser from God's viewpoint while his followers are greater! Matthew 11:11

MaxInDHouse:
David never lived in the day Jesus walked the earth teaching people what they must do to live forever so he never obeyed Jesus' command that's what disqualified him to be called a Christian or FOLLOWER of Christ!

Wawelexy:
In our African context, we won't use the word 'for years' if it's just 2years we trying to refer to, for him to use for years, I think he has been doing it for some couple of years above 2, which means, the girl isn't upto 18 before having sex with her...

Wawelexy:
Na true ooo, because he said for years he had been thinking he was sleeping with his daughter, which means he started having carnal knowledge with her when she was a minor... And nothing is more dangerous than a scorned woman... she will follow up with the case and make sure he ended up in jail to get back at him.... She's already a wounded Lion after the man's revelation, she will put all she has to take back the lead of the scores they are settling....

As a man, try everything possible not to get into the trap of a pained/scornful woman, if you mistakenly do, you are a goner

gbadexy:
Very distasteful. If the wife didn't inform him, he would be sleeping with his supposed biological daughter and everyone doesn't seem to see the wrong in this.

DONFASZY:
But d husband is goin to jail

Michael547:
Who was the first LORD that David referred to in psalm 110:1?

Did faithful servants of old like Abraham and david put faith in Jesus Christ or they put faith in the promise of the coming messiah by the Almighty God who was greater than Jesus?

MaxInDHouse:
Who is a Christian?

MaxInDHouse:
In the first century a young Jewish carpenter named Jesus of Nazareth formed a group later known as CHRISTIANS but there is a question some people do ask:

People that have served God faithfully in ancient times can we also call them Christians?

Since CHRISTIANS means followers of Christ and there are many things Jesus taught that ancient servants of God never knew what should we call such ancient servants of God like Abel, Enoch, Noah, Abraham, Isaac, Jacob, Joseph, Moses, Joshua, Gideon, Deborah, Samuel, David, Solomon, Josiah, Isaiah, Jeremiah, Ezekiel, Daniel, Shadrach, Meshach, Abednego, Nehemiah, Ezra, Zechariah, Hezekiah, Amos, Malachi and John the baptist who never practiced what Jesus taught?

YesDaddyTill203:
Dumbest retard. My 6 year old knows what percent means and has way more IQ than you will ever have.
Instead of this asinine delusional retar@ded imb@cile rant that lacks basic common sense why not just post the variable scientific statistics to back up your cacophony.
Pls get lost. On my way to the white sand beach of the Gulf coast for weekend relaxation.
BYE.

YesDaddyTill203:
I didn't graduate from a miracle center like you guys. I went to one of the most prestigious universities on the planet. I have been to the SE , 62 percent of households in the SE does not have tvs.
Besides, what is this so called statistics based on?
This is simply someone's view, it's not scientific. Simply based on "feelings".