₦airaland Forum

SonOfDSoil01:
stop trying to sound intelligent, I am sure some people will already be laughing at the explanation you gave. So just because you are paying rent or buying land or properties or paying transportation, does not mean you aren’t overstretching our infrastructure. For the fact that you migrate to Lagos in droves already prove my point so enough with the rubbish you are writing.

If you guys should stay back home, do you think the landlords will have a need to increase rent or need for more estates? I am indigene of Lagos, born and breed so I knew how serene our environment was before you guys started migrating in drove and it’s not like it’s gonna stop anytime soon. And pls don’t educate me with your fake stats about demand and supply because, the business you engage in can also be done by other tribes if you leave!

Let me keep educating you rather than insulting you. Because Lagos state housing and transport sector is in demand, it is producing more jobs and feeding more families. If everyone left Lagos, it would lead to what we call a recession.
Now, let's assume for argument sake that there are 1 million Igbo households in Lagos. If each pays a rent of 100 thousand a year, calculate what that brings to the economy. Are you ready to lose that just because of hatred and tribalism?

Duduscorpionn:
lol we don't need any data but common sense to know that Ogun is on top 4 most cosmopolitan states in the country. There's no one going to Anambra. Even the Gov Soludo said more than half of the indigenes lives outside the State. The no of ibos in Otta alone is more than the Yorubas in the whole of SE and there are other tribes and nationalities. Yes Anambra has less poverty rate than Ogun but still Ogun has a higher HDI, IGR and more industrialized than the whole of SE. Just because we're calling out the failure of a governor doesn't mean u should troll. Even in this thread, Anambra ranks 2nd in the worst metrics

Common sense is very arguable. And it has little or no place in the debate of intellectuals. Where is the common sense if everyone would claim to have it in a debate?
Oga Ogun state is not top 4 most cosmopolitan state. Where did you get your data from. Or are you sure you know the meaning of cosmopolitan?
Yes, most Igbos live outside their states but that doesn't mean that non Igbos don't live there.
Yes, Ogun has more industry and IGR but I would take less poverty over industry. China has more industry and IGR than Norway but I will choose Norway over China.
Again, you did not understand the metrics stated above. If you ask nicely, I will explain it to you.

SmartPolician:
Stop blaming parties at state levels - governors have the destiny of their states, not parties.

The same APC in Borno State is also in Ogun State.

Yes the party could have one or 2 good governors but on a whole, APC is a curse to Nigeria

Duduscorpionn:
Out of school children according to State of Residence not State of Origin. Remember there's barely other tribes flocking to Anambra. The no of your poverty-stricken people including the Nwa boys, the northerners and other West Africans from Mali, Niger, Togo, flocking to Ogun everyday is enough to make it 280000

Let me educate you some more.
Lagos has by far, the highest percentage of non indigenes yet, Lagos has a far lower proportion of our of school kids than Ogun state when compared. So clearly, Ogun state out of school kids have nothing to do with non indigenes. If not Lagos should have the highest proportion of our of school kids in Nigeria.
Thank me for the education.

SonOfDSoil01:
now I understand your level of intelligence, just imagine the stupid reasons you gave. Now let me explain things to you in a lay man’s way. You over stretching our infrastructure is evident to a blind man, even with the cause of traffic and also overcrowded residential buildings and market should tell you something except u don’t know the meaning of infrastructure. And also talking about business, you guys a just petty traders and there is nothing special in what you do than just you importing fake and substandard china goods. You can argue all you want, with or without you we have always been doing fine and just pray this country don’t disintegrate because then you will understand you need Nigeria more than it need you guys!

I will not insult you but I would rather teach you.
When you were in school, I assume you were taught demand and supply. Your teachers believed you would be able to apply this in real world.
If the services of the Igbos are not in demand, market forces would have uprooted them. The Igbos strive in Lagos because their services are in great demand.
Now to the housing. Why do you think that real estate is booming in Lagos more than any other state. Why do you think landlords in Lagos are richer than in most states. The Igbos pay for housing, pay for land, pay omoonile, pay for transport and thereby bring in billions into the states economy.
Everyone wants to have property in Lagos because of the great demand brought about by population.
Please refer to your old secondary school text to understand how Economics work. Thanks

Duduscorpionn:
Out of school children according to State of Residence not State of Origin. Remember there's barely other tribes flocking to Anambra. The no of your poverty-stricken people including the Nwa boys, the northerners and other West Africans from Mali, Niger, Togo, flocking to Ogun everyday is enough to make it 280000

First of all you have zero data of the number of non indigenes in either Ogun or Anambra so the premises for you argument is false.
Secondly, there is data to show that the rate of poverty in Ogun is far greater than in Anambra by a mile.
Lastly, there is no data to show that the out of school kids in Ogun are non indigenes. Both of us are too educated to base our arguments on guesswork and falsehoods.

SonOfDSoil01:
read what u wrote if it made any sense to you. So in your deluded mind Lagos need ibos? Why not migrate back to your enclaves in droves and see who needs who.the problem with you guys is this your over bearing attitude, before ibos started migrating to Lagos, my home state Lagos has been existing and doing very fine, rather you guys came and saturated every with your fake wares and over stretch our infrastructures, lot like anyone wrote a letter inviting you guys here but you did that for economic reasons.

You talk like a child. If the Igbos sell fake wares, they would be out of business by now. That pure Economics.
Please mention the infrastructure that the Igbos over stretch.

lawani:
What percentage of Lagos informal economy do you think is Yoruba controlled?. 80 percent is just an estimate but markets, artisans, transportation private schools, hotels, petrol stations, bakeries etc etc. What percentage do you think is Yoruba?.

Oga I know you are educated so you should see the error in your question. To determine what percentage of the economy controlled by the Yorubas you shouldn't depend on guess work. You can only know who controls the economy after a survey conducted by professionals. If not, we would both argue based on guesswork and sentiments.
Again, it's clear you don't know the meaning of an informal economy. Hotels, petrol stations, and schools are not part of an informal economy.
Clearly you are taking on a topic that seems to be above your present level.
Who told you that Yorubas own more hotels or schools? Where are you getting your information from?

SonOfDSoil01:
beautiful home on gully erosion lands and bad road kwa😂 beautiful home wey na empty buildings that you only visit only once’s in a year or you go and bury your dead, like I always say, an average ibo needs Lagos more than Lagos need her. You can only deceive yourself with your imaginary tax. For you info I have been to the east and I know your place very well, it is only those that haven’t been there you can decieve with your propaganda!

Japan has earthquakes. Erosion is natural. And I have been to every state in the SW.
The idea that Lagos does not need the Igbos is your personal idea and it is false. If Lagos doesn't need the Igbos, they would not be making money in Lagos, that's simple Economics for you.

lawani:
The informal economy of Lagos which is eighty percent under Yoruba control is yet to start paying tax and the majority of Igbos in Lagos are part of the informal economy of Lagos. People have gone to the land registry in Abuja and found the El rufai claim to be false. Only God knows why he made the claim. The number one state with most landlords in Abuja is Katsina according to reports Igbos can not own land in the North more than SE because the entire built up area of Nigeria may not exceed maybe Niger state if up to that and the rest will be farmland and etc. Use your own head and not be listening to politicians. There is no Nigerian city containing more Igbos than Yorubas except Igbo cities

You speak with out stats. Who said Lagos is 80% under Yoruba control? You don't just make up figures for the sake of argument.
Again you claim El rufai claim is false still without pointing to any evidence.
No one will take you serious if you don't have evidence backing your arguments.
Have a nice day

ibechris:
When was the last time people from Ogun state called out their governor.

But when Anambarians starts calling out their governor,u guys without brains would start shouting as if nothing is happening in other regions.

Oga did you notice that Anambra has 30,000 out of school kids while Ogun has 280,000? Ogun alone has more out of school kids than the entire SE.
It's ok to forget Anambra for now. Ogun is a Disaster

CSTRR:
But I am sure their igr is bigger than the whole east.

Yes very big IGR but they have more out of school kids than the entire east combined. Keep your big IGR and continue to destroy the future generation.

lawani:
There is nothing special Igbos add to Lagos more than the Lebanese, Chinese, Indians and etc. Yorubas do more in PH, Kaduna, Onitsha, Maiduguri, Jos, London etc than Igbos do in Lagos or will ever be able to do in Lagos. Lagos only has more population than others is the difference but not more cosmopolitan than PH, Abuja and others. If other states tackle IGR like Lagos is doing then they will make it according to their population size compared to Lagos. Anambra can make over one quarter of Lagos IGR and Yorubas in the place spend billions every day. Therefore stop saying Igbos are adding anything at all to Yoruba land that Yoruba are not adding to Igbo land because if you stay anywhere you will spend money there and in Lagos for now the average Igbo business pay no tax

Everything you said is your personal opinion and you are wrong.

I have no problem with what Yorubas do in PH, Abuja and anywhere in Nigeria because I am no tribalist. And I support their achievements.

But then, the formal minister of the FTC, el-Rufai confessed that Igbos own 73% of the property in Abuja.

The formal governor of Plateau said the same about Jos.

Rabiu Kwankwaso said Igbos own more land in the north than the entire south east.

So clearly, Igbos are contributing to every state of Nigeria.

You claim that the average Igbo man pays no tax to that, I will say that you are uninformed.

SonOfDSoil01:
why not go contribute that IGR in alaibo since you people have so much money, or don’t you think alaibo needs it more? Now they say alaibo as been turned to burial ground because it’s only when an ibo man dies they remember home, how pathetic!

Well personally, I don't care so much about IGR. It's basically more money for governors to steal.
The Igbo way of life is actually a brilliant one. They go around the world to make money and come back home to build beautiful homes and to rest.

MrPresident1:
You are crying out like a person who has devils inside him

Do you want to be free?

Lool. This is how you thieves go about telling people that they have one problem or the other.

[quote author=AntiChristian post=125921339]How many Igbos dey Lagos?

It's not like you have an answer to this. We don't know how many Igbos or Yorubas or any other tribe in Lagos
How much do dey pay in tax considering the fact that most of them are informal traders in Alaba and the likes!
First, there in nothing like informal traders and if you think that traders in Alaba don't pay tax then you are uninformed. Again we don't have the stats of the highest tax paying tribe in Lagos.

And what about other tribes especially the northerners who live in communities too?
Yes, Lagos belongs to all Nigerians, the northerners are not left out.

How is comparing Lagos IGR with that of SE tribalism? Not only is it tribalism, it's a useless argument. You are not from the SE and you don't even live there. Why didn't you compare it to other states in the SW. We both know that your comparing can only bring stupid tribalism. And it's irresponsible.

You must be igbo with the same victimhood mentality! if pointing out your tribalism is victim mentality then yes.

More Igbos dey Lagos than Anambra! Why always Lagos?
Because Lagos has the sea ports and more federal Infrastructure than any other state. Also, Igbos are business people so it only makes sense that they would be in the most populated city in Nigeria.
Finally, Igbos are Nigerian and they don't need to give you a reason to live in any part of their country.

AntiChristian:
Which tribe has been laying claim to Lagos as no man's land?

One guy argued with a driver about him speaking in the bus in Yoruba! For Lagos o!

And them Sabi play victim!

Your arguments here are not really good. If the Igbos have been laying claims to Lagos then Lagos GDP is great news for Igbos.
And the fact that one guy argued with a bus driver is no excuse for your tribalism.

There are more Igbos in Lagos than in Anambra so if Lagos IGR is great it's partly due to the Igbo contribution.
More Igbos contribute to the IGR of Lagos than that of any other Igbo state.
So why do you think this isn't great news for the Igbos?

AntiChristian:
Why is Lagos IGR multiples of that of the SE?

It's multiples of that of the other SW states. I know you to be a religious bigot leave tribalism alone. You can't put your hands in every bad thing

ElSudani:
Nigerian journalism is a shadow of what it used to be. God bless the generation of Dele Giwa and his colleagues of yesteryears.
All we have now are the likes of Rufai Oseni, people who doesn't care about the truth. But only their own point or view.
May God rescue our country. Imagine a whole Ruben Abati asking why Tinubu wouldn't assemble his former classmates! O ma se o.

Your government is destroying your country but you pray to God to save us from journalists holding the government to accountability.

ayokellany:
How foolish fools like you are quick to insult others is a mystery to me but I won't be saying anything much since you no either you or your father didn't contribute a dime into the private refinery of Dangote.

Every other miserable wail you chose to wail na for your pocket. Dangote is not the only person enjoying subvention from the government but he still chose to contribute even more to the society.

I do not even need to waste time asking what you contribute or will ever contribute to the society, you have your foolish mouth to run down everybody doing more purposeful thing than you can ever imagine. That in it self is enough for your hatefilled household to celebrate.

It's clear that you are poor and hungry and that is not a crime or a sin but the fact that you are also stupid is totally on you.
Only an idiot is offended when government and big business are being called to accountability.
Now I noticed you insult everyone's family that opposites your views and that's enough to tell us the source of your problems. It's so clear that your parents are irresponsible and they did a very poor work with you.
Honestly, I don't blame you. I pity you. You have been used, not by a yahoo boy or by your village people but by your parents.

[quote author= post=125912471]Very Good Development.
Nigeria will be great in our lifetime whether the evil ones like it or not.

God bless Our LEADER,
President Bola Ahmed Tinubu,
AKA JAGABAN,
AKA Dem Mama Husband ❤️[/quote]The only evil ones in Nigeria are your leaders. If you keep voting for bad leaders, Nigeria will never get better.
When Buhari was in power, you said the same God bless Buhari prayer and truly God blessed him but the people got poorer. Didn't you learn anything?

ayokellany:
What are you entire family launched to beta the lives of Nigeria that you think you own a right to question Dangote that employs over 100 thousands of Nigerians ?

You have shown how unwise you are. Do you believe that common Nigerians should not ask questions about a refinery that billions of taxpayers' money was put into?
Idiots like you are our number 1 problem. If we can't expect accountability from the ruling class just because we have not contributed billions as you say, then the country is finished.
But what do you know? as long as you can lick Dangotes anus, you will be ok. Not everyone was built like you.

MrPresident1:
Do you want to be free?

Mark 5:1-3
King James Version
5 And they came over unto the other side of the sea, into the country of the Gadarenes.
2 And when he was come out of the ship, immediately there met him out of the tombs a man with an unclean spirit,
3 Who had his dwelling among the tombs; and no man could bind him, no, not with chains:

You will never be free until you repent of your dishonesty. Stop making a living from deceit. Get an honest job.

Litmus:
Greed & Corruption, shorthand for when inept foreign companies partnering Nigerians to deliver services to Nigerians cheat Nigerians knowing they can get away because Nigerian partners would be blamed for corruption. The Nigeria partners are unable to defend themselves because of Nigeria's reputation for corruption and because their ignorance of the market and incompetence was what made them sign contract with the inept foreign firms in the first place (sold on precepts of cost effectiveness ) instead of the ideal ones.


This types of issues may be what David Nweze Umahi is discovering in relation to the road work contacts and atrocious historic road deliveries .

When will you people learn to take responsibility? It's always easier to blame your corruption on foreign firms.
The day we begin to look at the mirror is the day we begin to move forward.
People like you are the reason why the country remains backward.

lawani:
Holland can not sell one hundred billion dollar food to any country. The figure is too high. It may be things like chocolates and other developed products but not farm produce and anything not farm produce is another sector because you can not count chocolate export with cocoa export

So Holland does not label chocolates as Agricultural products. But then, you have a point, they have higher margins on their products. Still, for agriculture to be successful it must not be labor intensive. Labor-intensive agriculture is actually poor agriculture.

Here are some of Holland's exports for 2022
The main commodity groups in agricultural exports were dairy products and eggs (€ 11.9 bln), floricultural products (€ 11.5 bln), meat (€ 11 bln), drinks (€ 8.1 bln) and natural oils and fats (€ 8.1 bln). These top five accounted for 41% of the total export value in 2022.

FreeStuffsNG:
Kogi is lonely on the top despite having one of the most fertile agricultural land part of Nigeria.

Meanwhile, food inflation jumped over Ogun state from Lasgidi to Oyo then jumped over Osun state to land in Ondo state before embracing the neighbouring Ekiti, Kwara and Kogi wherei it eventually called home.

Food prices can come down if we each take agriculture seriously. Just make good use of spaces as little as your garden and balcony.

Agbe loba! Lazy youth don't know what they're missing wasting their lives away and time on the social media on entertainment, cyberbullying and nonsense cruise.Check my signature for free stuffs!


https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=VPLFd7sXfaE?si=qF8Gcs5iNMr-LJgg

I totally disagree with you. We are already taking agriculture way too serious. We already have too many people involved in agriculture. We have more than 3x the number of farmers in US or in the EU.
With less than 5% of it's labour force involved in agriculture, Holland exports over 100 billion dollars of agricultural products.
We don't need more farmers, we need better farmers and clearly we don't have the right policies.
Note, Holland has a smaller land size than Nigeria state.

Major7:
It's only the ignorant and uneducated ones that voted for their tribal person in the south west.i was there to witness things and gear the youth routing for peter obi,I also voted for him including my house hold but APC thugs cake with guns and cutlass to scattered the election ground,cart away the votes and brought fresh ballot papers already thumbprinted on it. We all know tinubu isn't there legitimately but God will have His way.

Well you pain a different picture from the election results. I was not in the country during the election so I really don't know.

MrPresident1:
I agree I am living in poverty after all Lazarus was feeding off the crumbs that fell off the rich man's table.

Why were you erasing my words? You tried to manipulate my context, that's criminal. You are a criminal

But Lazarus was not a lying bastard. You will suffer in this life and you have zero hope in the next.
For the past 5 days, you have been claiming that I manipulated your words but you seem afraid to quote your writeup. It's up to you to prove that I manipulated your words. We are waiting for you.

aydought:
The assailant name "Awolumate" literarily means "One who enters the town with his honour held intact or upright" This is the opposite in this case. This guy violently raised his hands on a woman, he has therefore become a big disgrace to his family and has no single honour left in his pocket. Oga, shame to you. "O ti wo'lu te"

The guy raised his hands on a very powerful criminal. Should we treat female criminals differently from their male counterparts? This is a genuine question I honestly don't have any answers to.

MrPresident1:
Mr Speaker

Clearly, you have shown that you can't shame the shameless or in your case, you can't shame the hungry.
This your hustle will never pay.

IamAtAnger:
Ur entire generation FOOLS

Loool I feel your pain. If you did not expose your stupidity no one will call you out. Your government is killing you yet you are blaming the wrong people. Tell me why you are not a fool.
Blaming gas price on the end time.

visaclick:
i tot it’s desiel needed to transport gas, you gas dealers are devils and it shall never be well with you all.

Are you wise at all? Desiel is almost N1000 now. It is already not well with your country Nigeria so no need to curse the gas sellers.