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MaxInDHouse:
Gidi gan!

one love

MaxInDHouse:
I hear you!

perfect, we understand ourselves.

Janosky:
Question 1 answer: 1 Timothy 5:8.
Did your Bible exonerate Jehovah's servants from paying their bills?
If JWs knock on your door to appeal for financial aid ,in order to go the extra mile you demand, will you respond & help them?
Una go push am to front page topic on NL.

Question 2 answer:
JWs went the extra mile to hold our weekly Bible study meetings online.
Hebrews 10:23-25,Every JW made lots of personal sacrifice to participate in our online Bible study program.
But,Christendom's business centers & Pastorpreneurs could not sustain online church services because they recorded financial losses & it was not bringing in the immense profits that accrued from the usual attendance offline.

The Pastorpreneurs went the extra mile to put pressure on the Government to allow them reopen their business centers.

I don't understand your question 1. Please as a clear question.
For your question 2. You seem to be angry with Christians seeking freedom to worship.
What you guys don't understand is that most of the freedoms you enjoy today were fought for by faithful Christians.

MaxInDHouse:
Ọmọ so you don't have any specific group and how they applied what Jesus taught practically you just want to throw it into the air even Atheists, Agnostics, Buddhists, Hindus, Muslims, Traditionalists all can claim they're applying it individually anyway they choose to!

You're really really funny ọmọ as in are you a comedian?
Jesus Christ counsel his disciples and here you are throwing it out as if it could be applied by all kinds of people then it means all people believe in Jesus shey?

Let's make this simple for both of us
While most Christian groups interpret the call to go the extra mile as a call to service, the JW saw it as a church imposed lockdown extension. That's just the difference. And I can't blame you for viewing the Savior's call as a lockdown extension. You guys always want to be different.

MaxInDHouse:
Please remind me how this is applied in your church practically after all JWs say what they believe and PRACTICED it!

Do you mean I should tell you how going the extra mile in service to others applies to me? Because I have been trying to go the extra mile in service and billions of Christians have also sought to follow the Saviors teaching. Trust me, much more 8.7 million people engage in the service of their fellow men. 100 of millions of Christians each day show extraordinary service in their places of work and communities.
One of my workers would not go home until all the days task is done even if it is 6 pm.
When I was in school, I had a roommate that took it upon himself to sweep the stairs and corridor of his hostel.
In the US, I have seen churches organize community service to clean up the beach or to feed the homeless.
So bro it applies to the billions of Christians only that they don't interpret it to mean an extended lockdown.

MaxInDHouse:
You called what over 8.7 million people agreed upon globally "PERSONAL"?
Thank God i managed to go through school o!

Yes 8.7 million is a small drop in the human population and all 8.7 million of you are wrong. When Jesus Christ taught us to go the extra mile he was not teaching us to continue with a government lockdown even after the government had called it off.
He taught you to go the extra mile in service. When you are compelled to serve on mile, go another mile in service. The law had nothing to do with imposing extra days of lockdown on yourself. 0

MaxInDHouse:
Luke 11:23

Applies to your churches that can't come up with the same line of thought yet claiming Christians.

Galatians 5:22-23

Applies to the work Jesus assigned to his disciples that no human government can put up any meaningful law against.

Do you get it now?

Well I judge by your interpretation of the scripture. It's you who believe that Christ meant you should continue with government lockdowns even after the government has put an end to it.
It's your personal interpretation to the word of God still you are selective.

kiako:
Whites who steal like no man's business. Just like how Louis Farrakhan tells Wallace to shut up, he has no moral justification to speak.

The whites lack foundation. But only to build on the stolen.

But this isn't about dick measurement bro. Its about development of the black race.

Hope your mind can now understand that.

The only problem blacks have is blacks. Oga I have traveled so I know. I know boys that did not pass jamb in 9ja yet they got admission in UK and US and today they are very successful. In Newyork, you would feel much safer in a white community than in a black neighborhood.
A black man became a 2 time president in America, we have people of Nigerian origin in UK government but it's impossible for an Igbo man to rule 9ja.
Blacks always feel entitled and lazy.

rusher14:
It's in every state after copying the Lagos model.

Lagos state approached Dangote who was considering Ondo State as the venue for his project.

The EPZ was a match made in heaven for such a project.

When I speak of blueprint, it.means there are mapped out areas for certain activities, actions to be taken including legislation.

Anambra state is a shithole because it had no blueprint.

So let me explain to you sir. Before Tinubu was born Lagos has always been the investment capital of Nigeria so what did he transform.
Dangote started his refinery a few years after Tinubu left office. Tinubu had nothing to do with it.
The EPZ is a very big housing estate but like earlier stated, there are housing projects in every state.

MaxInDHouse:
Now who is insincere here?

I never told you that it's not to affect Caesar rather i'm showing you the practical application of what Jesus taught that none of you can think of. Do you know any church that can figure out what Jesus meant in that verse?

Of course not because you guys will complicate issues among yourselves and end up claiming denominations after failure to agree on what Jesus taught! Luke 11:23

Whether it affects Caesar or not we must obey the authorities as long as they're not telling us to stop doing the will of our God. If the order is giving to all religions and they have something worthwhile to back it up surely we must comply but then there's no law that ever say people should not speak with their neighbours {Galatians 5:22-23} except this case of COVID-19.

Do you now see why we globally complied?

I ask again sir why did you not go the extra mile with your businesses.
Now let's read the verses you mentioned to see if they relate to the topic
Luke 11:23
He that is not with me is against me: and he that gathereth not with me scattereth.
Galatians 5:22-23
But the fruit of the Spirit is love, joy, peace, longsuffering, gentleness, goodness, faith, meekness, temperance: against such there is no law.
Please read the verses you mention before posting.None of them answer your selective extra mile.

rusher14:
When you knew Lagos what was in Shoprite at Lekki?

What was the EPZ and Dangote's refinery?

What was at the low cost housing estate in Ilupeju?

What was at the Oriental Hotel many want to burn down?

Oga ShopRite is in almost every state, housing estates are in all states. Tinubu has nothing to do with Dangote refinery. And if these are what you call his blueprint then you don't know what you are talking about.

KingKO22:
Its quite painful that Nyamirin pigs have no peace in their village that's why they all want to die on top of Lagos matter

Lagos matter to IPOB crew than their landlocked erosion republic

They wish they own Lagos but the hateful souls from SadEast are destiny for terrible leaders who enjoy looting and mismanagement of gvt allocation.

Tinubu transformed Lagos from what to what?

MaxInDHouse:
What you should have asked from a sincere heart is how we are able to always apply Jesus' counsel in a practical sense?

Well that's the work of God's Holy Spirit {John 16:12-13} Jesus' speeches among the first century Jews are for two categories of people:
The Jewish community in general and his own disciples!

So Jesus told his disciples that God's Holy Spirit will guide them always when it comes to the practical application of what he taught them so that there will always be peace among them though such peace can't be found in any other organization! John 14:26-27

It's not wise to pick my questions for me.
When you tell some the questions to ask you, it shows insincerity and a lack of confidence. But then you have made your point clears. JW are selective to going the extra mile when they feel it would affect Caesar. That is your doctrine. The Savoir did not teach that but you are entitled to your beliefs.

MaxInDHouse:
You're just being heady, we went extra mile for what Jesus commissioned because that's what matters to him and how we handle it of utmost importance.

For your information we resume out church service few months ago after pleasing Caesar with the extra mile and now we're starting the imperson preaching, it's you who doesn't know what is happening, we gave Caesar the extra mile in what Jesus handed over to us as assignment. But as for businesses even Caesar himself will be affected that's why he ordered a stop to the lockdown on that when he didn't do the same with service to our God which has no direct effect on his governance!

So you saying that your selective extra mile was not to affect Caesar. This is the best answer you have offered so far.
So let's conclude. JW would only be selective with going the extra mile if that would affect Caesar.
Again, thanks for the education about church services. Now I know that you guys went the extra mile on that too. But with mask and door to door preaching you choose to go the extra 4 miles
At least now we understand ourselves better.

MaxInDHouse:
Do you TRUST (BELIEVE) Jesus at all?
Ọmọ you've gotten it! Matthew 5:41

Matthew 5:41 And whosoever shall compel thee to go a mile, go with him twain.

42 Give to him that asketh thee, and from him that would borrow of thee turn not thou away.

Now my question remains unanswered.
Why have you be selective with this commandment.
You are going the extra mile in.
1. Mask wearing
2. Not preaching from door to door.
But you do not go the extra mile in
1. Remaining on lockdown and closing your businesses.
2. Having church service.
Do you understand my question now

Quintopia:
WHITE BOY, SHUT UP AND GET LOST, YOU STUPID FREAK.

WHO EVER SAID WHITES ARE HOLDING ANYBODY BACK?

YOU CAN BARELY CONTROL YOUR OWN SELVES AND YOUR SAVAGE PASSIONS.

YOU WHITES SHOULD WORRY FIRST ABOUT DESTROYING YOUR OWN NATIONS WTH YOUR STUPID AND BARBARIC NUCLEAR POSTURING AND SUPERPOWER COLD WARS THAT COULD IGNITE A CONFLAGRATION AT ANY MINUTE, MAKING ANY MISFORTUNE IN AFRICA A KINDERGARTEN PARTY IN COMPARISON.

IDIATT FEELING IMPORTANT.

I see that you have anger issues. But you also have stupidity issues. Where you deported? Better go talk to a doctor before you kill yourself out of frustration.
My advice, don't give up. There is still light at the end of your tunnel. You could turn your fading life around and find happiness. Peace be until you the sad one.

lhordspy:
Yes i can actually do something sir. Can i tell you.

I and the entire southwest will never vote him. I have my PVC, and i think you do too.

Lets meet 2023 on election day, then you will know how power one man vote can be.

Bunch of igbo Miscreants who are blinded by hate and religious hatred. Spits

I laugh. You can't speak for the south west.
You have just one vote. The entire south west would vote for him because they do not listen to your tiny voice. Good luck stopping anyone from voting for Obi.

MaxInDHouse:
Double response to one single post!
Just calm down to think before responding to a JW because our God has taught us to be wise so we will silence you with wisdom! Isaiah 54:17



I quoted Jesus' own words yet you're asking for scriptures abeg the one i quoted is whose word?



When Caesar demands that we stop preaching but allowing other religions then it means it's an outright attack on God's sovereignty in that case we must find ways to preach and teach without calling Caesar's attention. That's what we do in most countries where others are allowed but our preaching is banned! Act 4:18-20; 5:27-29

During COVID-19 Caesar gave a reasonable order to all religionists so we use other means and for your information between 2020-2021 over 117, 000 interested ones were baptized globally showing that we are still working despite Caesar's lockdown!

The only difference is that people aren't seeing our faces in their homes but through phonecalls and the internet we keep on preaching zealously and and industriously teaching globally! 2Timothy 4:1-2

Oga let's cut this short, just show the scriptures where Jesus taught that you the extra mile is selective.
Again the verses you are quoting are not even attempting the question I asked. My question is, why are you selective in going the extra mile . The verses below do not even mention extra mile. 2 2Tim. 4. [1] I charge thee therefore before God, and the Lord Jesus Christ, who shall judge the quick and the dead at his appearing and his kingdom; [2] Preach the word; be instant in season, out of season; reprove, rebuke, exhort with all longsuffering and doctrine.

lhordspy:
Is he there to defraud the woman of her dollars too. All in the name of fund mobilisation. What happened to the $150m you cunningly obtained few days ago. ?

Pandora happened to it right?

Madam okonjo iweala, please stay a little far from that man,Peter.....make your purse no miss, vanish, Evaporate, disengage, dissapear (any word sha that can best describe criminally minded pandora looter)


Yoruba call it - bi Afowora bi ole.


He has an history in Lying alot after commiting a Scam.

very soon, it would be 200 billion. There is nothing you can do about it but moan.

Quintopia:
WHITE DEVIL FROM HELL.

WHAT ARE YOU DOING ON THIS FORUM?

WHY NOT GO HANG OUT WITH YOUR FELLOW NASTY, RACIST, NEO-NAZI CRETINS ON WHATEVER NASTY FORUM YOU NOW GATHER?

STUPID, WORTHLESS, APPALACHIAN ASSWIPE.

The way you kids show your racism and tribalism is just sickening. If it's not Igbo vs Yoruba, it's White vs black. The whites do have your time. They are not the ones holding you back.

kiako:
Now, it might come to many notice but this is a reality that is, and should be brought to the fore especially to fellow blacks.

Now, before I begin, I must first emphasize the untrue thoughts to think that even as the world of the blacks is, they (the blacks) don't have anything to measure up with the whites, such that its untrue to think the whites could envy or really h8 or really do d!ckmeasurement with Black's success - because, in reality, this is false or misinformation. The whites ain't comfortable with blacks success and there is this pull him down energy they exhume towards our brothers and sisters especially those that nationalise there. And most times they hinge it on your mistakes, thereby making it look like its cos of the mistake but that's just the foundation they would hold tight to descend their fangs on you.

Now this is a list of instances (first I'll start with the two most recent, which is about Anthony Joshua and Serena Williams) :

1) Anthony Joshua : now, truly, AJ overreacted in his fight with Usyk. But, the backlash he received were really out of this world. I saw real hatred on him.

It got to a point one WHITE condemned that saying people should take a break on him, that it could be affecting his family, etc

That was how much it was. The level of rebuttal I saw these guts display on AJ was very terrible.
Its only a naive one that wouldn't sense the hate.

In fact, it was when they began to include his statement about "black people not to buy from white peoples businesses" that it became really confirmed that indeed there was bitterness in the guise of speaking up for sportsmanship.
And I was like, ohoooo so this is it, I would have thought ! So my instinct didn't fail me.

Meanwhile, note AJ never said that. He only talked about "blacks supporting black businesses"

So you see, what it means when one is able to twist what you said .... Imagine how far such act tells. And was even more shocking as AJ is a British citizen - so what happens to him being their "compatriot" ??


2) Serena Williams : Now this gem of inestimable value is retiring. And the athletic world is all praises. And that is how it ought to be cos she had been the light of lawn tennis. Like, a legend.

But today (this is actually what promoted me to make this post. I would have just be keeping it in mind what I notice, but for this I saw today), I read a post by this Australian I respect so much and I was dissapointed.
This man I respect him so much. As in so much.

But really see that this is sth that has gone beyond the ordinary. Why this ??. Just read below to see.

What was he tryna prove ? Why the d!ck measurement now, at the eve of Serena's joy .

No.

Take a look at these two first. . .

You think whites have your time. If you like keep showing your bad behavior to the world and expect whites to clap for you.
Both Anthony Joshua and Williams have massive white fan base. They are adored by both white and blacks. Most of there sponsorships are from white owned companies. The whites have given them more than there black brethren can ever offer then. Take responsibility of your life and stop blaming whites.

MaxInDHouse:
Because we must SEPARATE Jesus' work from our individual business.
Caesar gave a reasonable order after six months of lockdown
"you can start your business"
but regarding what we claim we're doing voluntarily for God Caesar said
"let that wait since God will understand for now"
So what exactly is it that you don't understand in this simple case?

Actually, there was nothing reasonable about the six months lockdown.
There is no data to show that the lockdowns slowed the spread especially in Africa. But there is enough data to show that the lockdowns increased pain, hunger and suffering. Anyway that's not a religious debate.
Caesar is not stopping anyone from preaching. There is no law in Nigeria against going from door to door.
Again, I know there are countries that Christian preaching is outrightly ban. Do you go the extra mile for Caesar in those countries?

MaxInDHouse:
Because we must SEPARATE Jesus' work from our individual business.
Caesar gave a reasonable order after six months of lockdown
"you can start your business"
but regarding what we claim we're doing voluntarily for God Caesar said
"let that wait since God will understand for now"
So what exactly is it that you don't understand in this simple case?

Are you saying that in Jesus Christ work we go the extra mile for Caesar but in our own business we don't? If that is your point please point to one scripture that teaches such doctrine. Or is it just your church doctrine?

MaxInDHouse:
If they do won't Caesar's sword catch up with them? Romans 13:4

And if that happens will Jesus come to their aid after they've ignored his wise counsel? Isaiah 9:6

Ọmọ you can never ever find fault with God's people that's what Paul meant when he concluded saying "against JWs producing the fruitage of Holy Spirit there is no law" Galatians 5:22-23

I don't understand you point. Caesar did not force you to go the extra mile with masks and preaching from door to door. My question is, why is your extra mile selective

MaxInDHouse:
Jesus' order for extra mile only has to do with the assignment he gave us.
So try to reason here.
Is there anywhere Jesus interfere with people's business when it has nothing to do with pure worship? Luke 12:13-14

I am not sure I understand you. Jesus Christ never said his extra mile law only has to do with the assignment he gave us. Let's read the verses you mentioned to see if it was written there.
Luke 12:13-14
13 And one of the company said unto him, Master, speak to my brother, that he divide the inheritance with me.

14 And he said unto him, Man, who made me a judge or a divider over you?
This has nothing to do with the extra mile or with anything we are talking about. Please explain why you mentioned these verses.

MaxInDHouse:
Jesus only talk about the assignment he gave the church he doesn't interfere with people's businesses!

Are you saying that during the lockdowns, JW members went about their businesses against government warning?

OkCornel:
Kobojunkie, perhaps we should also have a look at Revelation 7 v 9-10 & 13-14 too.

9 After this I looked, and there before me was a great multitude that no one could count, from every nation, tribe, people and language, standing before the throne and before the Lamb. They were wearing white robes and were holding palm branches in their hands.

10 And they cried out in a loud voice:
“Salvation belongs to our God,
who sits on the throne,
and to the Lamb.”

13 Then one of the elders asked me, “These in white robes—who are they, and where did they come from?”

14 I answered, “Sir, you know.”

And he said, “These are they who have come out of the great tribulation; they have washed their robes and made them white in the blood of the Lamb.

15 Therefore,
“they are before the throne of God
and serve him day and night in his temple;
and he who sits on the throne
will shelter them with his presence

FYI tctrills

We should be done with old discussions. Let's not be regurgitating the same talking points.

MaxInDHouse:
Our businesses has nothing to do with Jesus' order to go preaching and teaching so there's a difference between Jesus' work and our own work. If we are arrested for our own business it's based on what all men work for: Money
But when we are arrested for Jesus' work then he is involved because it's voluntary so we must comply 100% with the instructions of the CEO who said regarding his work:

"When they demand for a mile go two miles with them" Matthew 5:41

Moreover Caesar declared businesses open six months after the lockdown but religious centers were ordered to wait. JWs knew that this is Jesus' business not some profitable ventures but your churches can't obey Caesar's order because you people are making profits from what you call Jesus' work! Matthew 10:8

I don't understand your point here.

Janosky:
JWs are not Christendom running business centers (called "Sunday Church service" etc) and mounting pressure on Government to reopen their business centers.

Rather,JWs had to go the extra mile to "make sure of all things" (1 Thess 5:21) as far as covid 19 precautionary measures are concerned, because the safety of our neighbors and our safety is paramount.

You've not answered my question. Your extra mile is selective. I am not sure the bible told you to be selective with the extra mile. JE members are back at work and they are back to worshipping so clearly, it is a selective extra mile.

MaxInDHouse:
We must give Caesar a mile more (extra time) says Jesus! Matthew 5:41

Now you have come. So basically this is not about the lockdown because the lockdown is over but this is rather your interpretation of Matthew 5.41. Interesting. So basically the JW lockdown would last twice as long as the government lockdown.
Are JW members still locking down their businesses? Also, I noticed that when it came to resuming church service, you did not give Caesar a mile more. You only gave Caesar a mile more in Mask wearing and door-to-door preaching. But refused to give him a mile more in your businesses, work, and attending church service. Very interesting.

MaxInDHouse:
Even though we keep evangelizing on line we gave the authorities (Caesar) that ordered the lockdown an extra time! Matthew 5:41

Yes, but in the case of going from house to house, there is no law against it in Nigeria. Caesar's lockdown has been over for more than a year now.

MaxInDHouse:
Perhaps you have forgotten so quickly so i will remind you, there was a global lockdown and only medical personnels were allowed to move from one place to another. If facemasks could prevent the virus then why the lockdown?

I remember. But the lockdowns are over at least in Nigeria did you forget? Nigerians are now allowed to move about and associate.