Christistruth00: What happened when IPOB Tried nonsense did Gov Wike Spare them?
You call yourself Christ is true but you seem to be viciously rooting for Igbos to lose their aquired property. What kind of Christian are you? Baba hell is for the wicked.
Christistruth00: My Problem is with those who are dragging Lagos with Yorubas Doing what they cannot accept from others in their own Region
Baba there are Yoruba landlords in the east. Not everyone is lazy and fearful like you. I bought my first land in the west 3 months after NYSC. Meanwhile many of my friends from the west were redeploying when sent to the east. The Igbo man is adventurous. The Yoruba man is cool but does not like adventure.
Christistruth00: Go and read your Land Document again very slowly before you receive the shock of your life
It is a 99 year Leasehold
You. are not the Landowner the Aworis are
They can revoke the lease in court once you don’t pay your Land rent
Don’t be greedy for others Ancestral Lands God gave you your own
Oya na revoke the document. Because of election una don dey find document up and down. Baba dead on arrival. Give the Igbos just 30 more years and all this talk would be past tense.
knowingChrist: REVISITING SOME GENERAL CHRISTIAN BELIEFS
Are we really gods? Are we gods? What are gods? What do the scriptures say about gods? These are some basic questions a person must ask before believing they’re. But people are just as quick to accept beliefs from very limited or unverifiable information even as these beliefs are easily formed. Hence, some people belief they’re gods without proper interpretation of what it means to be gods within the context of the scriptures, and others have accepted this as true without asking the basic questions.
This belief is not unique to Christianity, it’s peddled by both Christian and non-Christian preachers. Proponents of this belief claim that it’s written in the bible that we are gods so that automatically makes us gods. However, they tend to carefully avoid the basic questions in their claims and when teaching it to others.
The Christian version of the belief posits that inasmuch as Christians are borne by the word of God, they’re gods. In fact, some Christian preachers go further with this to say that since God is divine, every Christian is also divine. Due to the cloudiness of this belief, preachers of this belief go as far as comparing God to animals in trying to convince their audience. They say a goat can only give birth to another goat, a lion will likewise give birth to another lion, and so also will a dog, bird, elephant, etc. give birth to another of their kinds. Therefore, God can only give birth to his kind.
The non-Christian version of the belief posits that all men are gods. Proponents of this say that what happened to Jesus is not unique, it’s attainable by anyone. They further speak of something known as Christ consciousness, which is: being in tune with the universe. They say that anyone who attains this consciousness is as God or god as the case may be. They say that unlike the personal God in Christianity, God is actually the universe or the source of everything, and everyone else is as gods when they get in tune with the universe.
Both beliefs were created from a particular verse taken out of a chapter of just a book of the scriptures; verse 6 of chapter 82 of the psalmist’s writings: 6 I have said, ye are gods; and all of you are children of the most High (Psalm 82:6).
This belief is further supported by a comment Jesus made in response to his accusers: 35 If he called them gods, unto whom the word of God came, and the scripture cannot be broken; (John 10:35-36) We might get convinced of this belief because it’s been padded with the scriptures, but as we reflect on it, were become faced with questions like: • Was Christ also gods? • If yes, then why didn’t he or the bible say so? • If not, why do certain pastors say we’re gods, aren’t we supposed to be like Christ? • What then are we? It’s clear that the scriptures called men gods, however, it’s not very clear what kind of men were called gods, so it’s important to know the kind of men called gods. How do we know the kind of men called gods? It’s first by knowing the meaning of the Hebrew word translated as “gods”, then reading the verse within the context of the whole chapter, and doing a proper search of the scriptures to compare the whole statement to other parts of the scriptures talking about the same or similar thing.
The Hebrew word: The Hebrew word translated as “gods” has a few meanings, chiefly of which are judges or angels. This means when the scriptures say “ye are gods”, the word gods could either stand for judges or angels: ye are judges; ye are angels. Those who peddle this belief say that the word “gods” stands for angels, but looking at the whole chapter of the message helps us understand what the word stands for.
82 God standeth in the congregation of the mighty; he judgeth among the gods. 2 How long will ye judge unjustly, and accept the persons of the wicked? Selah. 3 Defend the poor and fatherless: do justice to the afflicted and needy. 4 Deliver the poor and needy: rid them out of the hand of the wicked. 5 They know not, neither will they understand; they walk on in darkness: all the foundations of the earth are out of course. 6 I have said, ye are gods; and all of you are children of the most High. 7 But ye shall die like men, and fall like one of the princes. 8 Arise, O God, judge the earth: for thou shalt inherit all nations.
The whole context of the message in the chapter is about judgment, in fact, verse 2 of the chapter has God directly asking them how long will they judge unjustly. It’s awkward that anyone will take the word “gods” and make it something separate from the context of the whole chapter.
Although this should nullify the belief that we’re gods, searching through the scriptures; comparing different instances where the same word was used helps us fully understand the true meaning of the word and the message in the Psalms.
What does the word “gods” mean in the scriptures? The first time the word “gods” was used in the scriptures is in Genesis, where the dialogue between Eve and the mind was recorded.
4 And the serpent said unto the woman, ye shall not surely die: 5 For God doth know that in the day ye eat thereof, then your eyes shall be opened, and ye shall be as gods, knowing good and evil (Genesis 3:4-5).
The direct information to note here is that disobeying God will make man as gods, and when man disobeyed, God confirmed that man has become as gods, and knows good and evil.
22 And the LORD God said, Behold, the man is become as one of us, to know good and evil: and now, lest he put forth his hand, and take also of the tree of life, and eat, and live forever: (Genesis 3:22)
The statement “the man is become as one of us” is where God confirms that man had become as gods because of his disobedience. This implies that those who were called gods in the context of Psalm 82 were disobedient to the commandment of God in righteousness.
The specific attribute or quality that qualifies a person/entity as gods is the ability to know good and evil. Although many might think knowing good and evil is literal, that’s not the case in the scripture. The term “knowing good and evil” needs to be defined within the scriptures. An important part of the scriptures that helps us define this is seen in the conversation between God and Solomon.
9 Give therefore thy servant an understanding heart to judge thy people, that I may discern between good and bad: for who is able to judge this thy so great a people? (1 Kings 3:9)
From the statement above, we see that the ability to judge people defines the knowledge of good and evil. Using this information to interpret other parts of the Bible, we see that being gods and knowing good and evil means being able to judge people. Therefore, those who were called gods in the Psalms were those who judged the people, they were not angels or divine in any way.
Understanding Psalm 82: The first thing to note about Psalm 82 is that the message was a prophecy, it was talking about something to happen. The whole context of the message in Psalm 82 tells us that God judges among gods i.e. God was judging amongst judges of the earth. This message was fulfilled when Christ came to earth; God was in Christ standing amongst mighty men and judged amongst judges of the people. God berated these judges of the people on why they’ve judged unjustly and told them what a righteous judgment is.
Although proponents of this belief do not see this message across the bible, it’s actually a message that spreads across various books of the scriptures. It’s a statement of the coming of Christ and the execution of the righteous judgment of God on earth. The message is also seen in the following books: • Psalm 58 • Isaiah 3 • Jeremiah 23 All of these books are talking about God coming to judge the mighty men of the earth. These mighty men are judges of the earth who have perverted justice; judging by their own standards, and for this reason, God himself shall come and stand amongst them and execute righteous judgment.
Was Christ gods? Christ explicitly stated what he was, he called himself the son of God. There’s nowhere at any point in the bible that Christ intentionally or mistakenly referred to himself as gods. In fact, the only reason Christ mentioned the word “gods” was to reference the scriptures in reply to his accusers:
34 Jesus answered them, Is it not written in your law, I said, Ye are gods? 35 If he called them gods, unto whom the word of God came, and the scripture cannot be broken; 36 say ye of him, whom the father has sanctified, and sent into the world, thou blasphemest; because I said, I am the Son of God? (John 10:35-36)
In the verses above, we clearly see that Christ says the scripture calls them gods to whom the word of God came, but states that he is the son of God. Christ never called himself gods, but repeatedly called himself the son of God, drawing a distinction between those called gods and himself.
Who are gods? Proponents of the belief claim Christ confirmed that we’re gods because he referenced Psalm 82 in his response to his accusers, however, this information is entirely assumed because Christ clarified that he is the son of God even while he called them gods. Christ never called himself gods; however intentional or mistakenly. In fact, apart from the referencing of Psalm 82 which only happened once, there’s no record in the whole of the New Testament where anyone called Christians gods. Christians are sons of God because they do the will of God by obeying his words, while gods are those who disobey the word of God, and rule by their own stands.
While those who peddle this belief claim that Christ confirmed that Christians are gods when he referenced Psalm 82, this claim is not according to the understanding of the scriptures. Christ explained that those who the scriptures called gods are those unto whom the word of God came, and the bible explicitly states that those unto whom the word of God came rejected him. He came unto his own, and his own received him not. John 1:11 A person born by the word of God is not as gods. Such a person is like Christ, the son of God. Every Christian is a son of God because they do the will of God but gods are those who disobey God. Sons of God make the judgment of God known, but gods bear rule by their own hands (Jeremiah 5:31).
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We are Children of God that on its own makes us 100% Gods.
Christistruth00: Lagos Land Belongs to the Awori Yoruba and the Supreme Court Agrees
Even the Military Governors Could not take it
Stop eyeing other People’s Ancestral Lands be contented with your
Land lease and return the Lands to the owners when the lease expires
Oga my land is bought and if there was a lease, there was an agreement. You don't have any right to take over the land unless jail dey hungry you. President Peter Obi would not allow such nonsense. Go and rest.
MrDebonair: Can you then prove to us who is more knowledgeable than God Almighty? Since you know better. If he's not the beginning and the end, you need to tell us who is.
1 John 3:20 20 For if our heart condemn us, God is greater than our heart, and knoweth all things.
Before the rise of Dubai, the most visited Muslim cities were Mecca and Medina in Saudi Arabia. But it all changed when the leaders of Dubai discovered that Islam should not be bondage. Today, Dubai is the 4th most visited city on earth. Non-Muslims are allowed to enjoy all privileges and are not bound by sharia. In today's Dubai, Alcohol is cheaper than in many European cities. The city is filled with prostitutes and red light districts if you know where to look. No one is there to make your life hell just because you don't follow the sharia law. Other Muslim countries are learning fast. Saudi Arabia is building an international tourist city called Neom and Egypt has plans for a similar city. Kuwait is building Silk City, Madinat al-Hareer. Islam does not have to be restrictive and cruel. We all can be Dubai.
candidtalk: You've made nothing yours mumu. Otherwise you'd be controlling the politics and administration of Lagos.
Everyone is allowed to live and thrive in Lagos per 'one Nigeria' and the sophisticated tolerance and hospitality of the Yorubas.
You are merely significantly more than other non-Yorubas in Lagos because of extreme covetousness, unbridled greed and usurpation mentality.
Anywhere there is money, you flood like rodents and without moderation to be dragging terrain with indigenes.
Note that it is not only in Nigeria you lot are know for such ungracious and ungrateful behaviour.
If it were a white man that says Lagos is his home, you all would be clapping and cheering but your fellow black man claims Lagos as his sixth state and you are masturbating blood.
candidtalk: You've made nothing yours mumu. Otherwise you'd be controlling the politics and administration of Lagos.
Everyone is allowed to live and thrive in Lagos per 'one Nigeria' and the sophisticated tolerance and hospitality of the Yorubas.
You are merely significantly more than other non-Yorubas in Lagos because of extreme covetousness, unbridled greed and usurpation mentality.
Anywhere there is money, you flood like rodents and without moderation to be dragging terrain with indigenes.
Note that it is not only in Nigeria you lot are know for such ungracious and ungrateful behaviour.
Oga control the politics, we came for business. Then again, why should we be grateful to you? It's only in Nigeria that business people are told to be grateful to the communities they serve. The fact that people keep buying from our shops proves that we are needed and we are serving the community. We have nothing to be grateful for. We pay our rents. Nothing was handed to us for free.
candidtalk: It should not be though for all the empty chest-beating you lot do.
We love to expand that's why we beat our chest. We come to your land and make it ours. Whether it's right or wrong it's left for you to judge. But that's just the way it is.
While many Nigerian Muslims complain of partiality in the choice of Sunday and not Friday as a weekend holiday, The UAE a Muslim nation has moved its weekend to Saturday and Sunday with Friday now a half working day. So next time a Nigerian Muslim complains about this, just tell him to go to Dubai.
9jatriot: I wonder how many of those lawyers would have attended that event if it was hosted in Anambra State on a Monday. Even Peter Obi would have conveniently found an excuse not to attend.
Lagos is basically the 6th Igbo state. So what's your point?
Shooyie: This OP is ignorant. Hasn't it been institutionalised? You should direct complaints to Saddiyya Farouq not VP Osinbajo.
Just because your VP handed over a fail program doesn't mean he shouldn't account for his time as head of the program. Let's see the stats and compare how many people received the loans before the election and how many received them after the elections.
You really believe that after people read your write-up, they would stop laughing at shitima? Oga you are wasting your time. You can't move this needle.
Shooyie: This OP is ignorant. Hasn't it been institutionalised? You should direct complaints to Saddiyya Farouq not VP Osinbajo.
Asking for credibility is not complaining. And yes, the VP needs to be accountable. The program is a clear failure and it would be reckless and stupid to pass the bulk to Farouq. The VP needs to be accountable even before we bring in Farouq. We need to know how many people were given loans under the pastor. How many paid back? That is not asking for too much. Please let us stop protecting the corrupt.
sgtponzihater1: Thread closed now. Ask your friends if you missed the meat. See you soon.
Don't be Obidient to anyone
this is your second antiigbo thread in one day. Are you this afriad of Igbos? You need deliverance. This one year that Nigerians are putting away tribal difference to vote an Igbo man, you seem not to be able to live with it
Wen we were all shouting for splitting or referendum we were all right but the moment peter obi put himself on the ballot we are now wrong...
Human nature in display
Wait lemme ask you, wat if ur preferred candidate no con enter, wetin u go do??
I never shouted for splitting or referendum. You have never discussed with me in the past so why would you say things you do not know?Please no need to be a liar. You are proving to be a tribalist. Because you feel I am Igbo, somehow in your shallow mind, you conclude that I supported a split. People like you are a major problem. You don't not see human beings as independent entities. But you must judge them by their tribe as if they are some kind of animal. I advise you to change this behavior. Tribalism is a weakness born out of fear.
Newton2024: Whatever decision you take in the name of teaching Peter Obi a lesson will only affect you. Look around you, the lesson you wanted to teach GEJ has turned Nigeria to a desolate land while GEJ is in his home town of Otuoke eating Nkwobi in peace. Your choice affects only you!
Politics › Re: Lagos No Man's Land? Lagos To Reclaim Their Lands From Igbos And Others by tctrills: 8:59pm On Aug 23, 2022
